Reid/Dorsey safe for 2016.
 

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> chairman Clark Hunt says he will stick with Andy Reid and John Dorsey for 2016, even if they end up with a top 5, top 10 pick.</p>&mdash; Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/status/660807458454114304">November 1, 2015</a></blockquote>
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I am 0% surprised by this.

Looks like Alex Smith in 2016 regardless of situation to me.

This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. Clark wants continuity.

His contract makes this as obvious as the nose on your face.

He can be cut after 2016 without much cost.

Keeping Alex Smith should NOT keep us from taking a quarterback if given the chance. Let the rookie sit the bench while Alex Smith continues to get obliterated behind our shit OL. Give the line another year to be built up and the rookie will be ready to start in 2017 when Alex Smith is either broken and/or gone.

Not surprising but they better be thinking about a rookie QB to start next year.

**** no. It's a plug and play league. Alex is done after this season.

Sun comes up in the east.

Reid has earned a firing, but from the owner's perspective, you have to let your head coach and GM pick a new QB if they miss on one before you clean house.

looking forward to wasting our top 5 draft pick

Good. Let them finish their 5 year plan

Not gonna lie, that was a sweet play call

Figured but a 1st round QB is the only way to generate any interest in the team next year even if he doesnt play right away.

Yep. Wasn't expecting anything different from this mediocre franchise.

Pretty good year on the revenue side. Why would I dump them?/CHunt

Because starting over every 2-3 years is how you build a contender.

You dont need to start over but you cant sale Reid/Smith/Dorsey to the fanbase again. People arent buying.

3 and out after a 9 yard run on first down.... I wonder what the odds are on that one?


edit, sorry thought I was in the game thread.

Artfully stated.

They should be back.

Reload in the draft and back into the breech.

I have no problem keeping Dorsey around but we have been to the playoffs 1 time in 3 years and no wins. Reid should fall for that.

Since Reid is staying I would expect wholesale changes especially on defense. But knowing Reid there won't be any and AS will still be the starting QB. Unexcusable IMO.

:shake:

There needs to be changes in personnel and we are likely stuck with Smith for 1 more year, there is no getting around the $. There is no use crying about it.

And I am not a fan of Reid but saying we have only made the playoffs 1 time in 3 seasons so we need to fire him is silly.

They won't do it

What a garbage franchise. Why would you keep those under achievers around. Lol. Like I said, Hunts are happy as long as you guys show up and fill the stadium up.

I'm not surprised at these responses after reading Royals game day threads. ROFL

If every fan abandoned ship when things got ugly Oakland ticket sales would have bottomed out for about 10 straight years

Great.

Hopefully the Royals can keep their core intact and stay competitive, because the Chiefs are basically a lost cause until Reid & Smith are gone.

I understand AS is going to be here but they better draft his replacement if possible.

I am curious though why you think it is silly to fire a coach who leads a team with alot of talent but has regressed every year? Though I would concede if by some miracle Reid gets this team to the playoffs this year he should stick around at least 1 more season.

Shocking I tell ya, shocking.

Clark also said Reid/Dorsey and their staffs are doing a great job.

13-18 since the 9-0 start is a "great job"?

I get it's not the same thing. But still interesting to note that the Hunts owned two MLS teams. The Wizards and the Columbus Crew. After the Hunts sold the Wizards, attendance and winning has improved dramatically. Now a few years after selling the Crew, the Crew are one of the best teams in the MLS. I don't usually dog on the Hunts. But it's still interesting to think about.

He wouldnt publicly say anything else.

One has nothing to do with the other but what would rather Hunt to have done since he took over?

I get that those were more side investments to get the league started, but they're still teams formerly owned by the Hunt group. I am just pointing it out as interesting. I don't have a particular issue with the Hunts.

One thing I would like him to do a ton different is to micromanage a little bit. Not to Jerry Jones level. He puts way too much trust in his GMs, but sometimes they need to be managed too.

How about "quit doing what your father did" for 500 Alex?

Way to show your complete ignorance.

Having the GM and Coach report directly to him rather than the Coach to the GM is right along those lines.

Clark has been running the show for 10 years and nothing has changed.

Nothing

Is that happening? Because it still looks as hands off as ever. This team looks and feels like it is being run by Andy Reid.

Look at the way Arthur Blank emasculated Pioli in Atlanta. You don't see even a hint of the Patriot Way in that organization and knowing what we know about that cult, that's saying a lot.

How many times in 10 years did Lamar fire a coach and a HC 4 years into their tenure?
Clark has fired 2 GM's and 3 coaches in 10 years.

When did Lamar have the coach report directly to him along with the GM?

Just say we haven't drafted a 1st rd QB and get it over with.

Thats exactly how its set up. Just because Clark doesn't speak out in public about things doesn't mean he isn't engaged. Thats just a ridiculous comparison.

Clark didn't want to fire Pioli. Only reason He was fired was bc Clark's siblings outvoted him and Andy didn't want to work with him.

That tells you all you need to know.

OK

Does this look like a front office that is pushing back on Andy Reid? I don't think there's a single sane person that would say that. When Hunt takes action, it's been a force to be reckoned with. He's done some bold things. But between those times, he doesn't seem to be pushing back the way he needs to.

The owner employs who he feels arr the right people to run things and let's them run it.

Its a pretty basic business model

Let's be like Oakland and fire GM's/Coaches every 2-3 years!

Damn, Knile must've ****ed Eric Bieniemy's wife or something.

whoops wrong thread.

Oh and, if you thought Reid/Dorsey would get the axe you're stupid. If anyone falls on the sword, it'd be Alex.

My thoughts as well.

Somewhat like cincy, just keep drafting and building.

Ready for more mediocrity and an Alex Smith led team with no first rd QB in 2016?

Woo!

Why can't they draft a first round qb?

The goal is to build the best and most rounded roster you can. With smith being movable after next season, I'd imagine qb would be pretty high on the list

And I also would like a first round qb go sit for a year.

Hell, build the roster more, make Smith look better then trade him. Win win

Here's a classic example....
A few weeks ago, Reid asked if he would give up playcalling. He basically said "**** no." Who makes that call? Because it sure sounds like Reid is calling every single shot. Everything we've heard leads us to believe Alex Smith is Reid's guy and this team hasn't shown any hint of wanting to bring in competition for that QB job.

I'm reminded of Dick Vermeil in St. Louis vs. Kansas City (and yes, I get that that was Lamar's team at the time). Vermeil didn't want to fire his inept OCs and was pissed off when St. Louis wanted to replace Tony Banks. Vermeil wanted to trade Faulk. The Rams went out and forced Martz onto Vermeil, traded for Trent Green despite Vermeil's wishes, and stuck with Faulk. The rest is history. That's how you counter a head coach who has way too much power. Can't help but wonder if things would have been different if Peterson didn't bend over backwards for vermeil by sticking with incompetent guys like Greg Robinson and Lynn Stiles.

Make it so number one.

Damn. Why'd I have to see this after such a great win?...

Hope you're right bud but I'll believe it when I see it

I'd prefer to be more like GB or Pitt or NE and just get it right when we hire a HC...

I think it is pretty obvious Reid is running the show, they hired him prior to hiring Dorsey. I seem to remember in Philly Reid didn't fire any of his staff very often so I am not expecting any change in regards to the staff.

And when they don't or have a history of doing things wrong, owners can step in when needed. Again, the Falcons are a classic example. Blank promoted Pioli, but he took over the head coaching search because he knew Pioli would march in the same Patriot jerkoffs. We don't want a Jerry Jones. But this front office has been on the extreme in terms of giving their GMs and HCs way too much power.

No need for a QB to sit. It's a plug and play league. Let them grow.

That's why 90 percent of said qbs fail.

Sit and learn

I know this isn't the popular stance here, but you're 100% correct. Dorsey and reid deserve at least another couple seasons to show their plan and get it into place. Alex Smith, on the other hand, needs replaced ASAP. Next years draft pool doesn't impress me.

Exactly...

I'm not a fan of Andy Reid, but I'm not calling for his head. What's more frustrating is that we all see it coming... the Chiefs will go on a run late in the year, barely miss the playoffs, and they'll sell to us that everything is going fine. Bullshit. The issues are really simple if the front office would grow a pair of balls. Put Sutton's job on watch, strip Andy Reid of playcalling, and draft a first round QB at least to compete with Alex Smith. If we go on a 2-3 year plan without those three things, that's just stupid and lazy.

I misread this and thought it said for sale...

Anybody that wants Dorsey gone should jump off the nearest cliff/bridge

Sit and learn from Smith? They get experience by playing. If the fail rate is 90% it's because they just aren't very good. It's hit or miss. We've seen enough for Smith

Most actually are happy with Smith, they think Smith is the second coming of Joe Montana. Fire up the smokers and get in line!

Smith graded out perfect today, in spite of throwing a three yard loss screen on 2nd and 1, when the game was not decided yet.

Smith is the absolute perfect 8-8/9-7 QB for the Chiefs in pursuit of a wild card berth.

Give it up. It costs more to cut Alex Smith next season than to keep him.

Shocking

Gotta love when people single out one play in a 35 point win. Always adds credibility.

That's not entirely true. I think you could very much argue that guys like Rivers, Romo and Rodgers all benefited from sitting for a couple years.

Other guys like Roethlisberger were basically handed a #1 rushing attack and #1 defense, and asked not to screw it up.

It just depends on the QB. I've said this in other threads, but who are going to be the great QBs in 5 years? Luck and Wilson obviously, but even they aren't having their best years. Rivers, Romo, Eli etc are all into their mid-30s. It's not like there are a ton of young guys being thrown to the wolves and succeeding at this point. It just depends on the mindset of the QB. Most guys aren't as pro ready as Andrew Luck was.

Hooray for mediocrity.

I have no problem with a rookie QB sitting behind Smith for a year. My worry is though that as long as Reid is here Alex will be the starter at least for the foreseeable future.

The one play I'm singling out is Alex's TD throw to Maclin. Maclin wasn't open when Smith threw it. It was a great read.

What bothers me about the offensive performance is our red zone offense was successful despite us doing the same shit we do every week in the red zone. Except that we ran it more which is nice. We aren't going to have an easy time getting into the end zone in the future if Alex won't throw into the end zone in tight games. So I think we're looking at this win as a little fools gold.

No surprise. I just hope they can lose the rest. We need the high pick for a QB.

The lions are bad. There is no denying it. But good to see the Chiefs show life.

Were you one of the fools crying to dismantle the Royals two years ago. Who's the fool now? The owner that saw the long term advantage, or the fan who wants immediate dividends?

Never played serious sports did ya?