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Eleazar 02-09-2016 12:56 PM

Browns made up Manziel concussion to cover for him showing up drunk
 
Report: Browns lied about Manziel concussion to cover up his drinking
Posted by Michael David Smith on February 9, 2016, 12:39 PM EST


In a report on the league’s own network, the Browns have been accused of lying about Johnny Manziel having a concussion in an effort to cover up that the real problem with Manziel was showing up to work drunk.

“Johnny Manziel, going into what would have been a start late in the season, showed up drunk at practice on a Wednesday. The Browns lied and said he was in the concussion protocol. Let me repeat that: The Browns lied, to try to protect, and I would argue enable, this irresponsible and very troubled young man,” Mike Silver said on the air on NFL Network.

As PFT pointed out at the time, there’s always been something very fishy about Manziel’s Week 17 concussion diagnosis. On Monday of the last week of the season, then-Browns coach Mike Pettine said he planned to talk to Manziel about a video that appeared to show him drinking alcohol and partying. At that time, there were no reports that Manziel being checked for a concussion. Then, when Manziel showed up to work on Wednesday, it was announced that he had a concussion and couldn’t play in that Sunday’s season finale. It was never explained why the Browns only diagnosed this concussion three days after it supposedly happened, and two days after Pettine said he was going to have a stern talk with Manziel about his off-field issues.

If NFL Network’s report is correct, the NFL should come down hard on the Browns. The league has spent the last few years repeating, over and over again, that concussions are to be taken seriously. If the Browns are using bogus concussion diagnoses to avoid having to discuss players’ off-field problems, that would be an appalling misuse of the league’s injury reports.

So while the Browns are done with Manziel, they may not be done paying the price for hitching their wagon to him. Cleveland could be facing league discipline for lying about a concussion.


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-his-drinking/

eDave 02-09-2016 12:58 PM

:popcorn:

Man. If true, they are in for a world of shit and Johnny is out of football.

Way to go kid.

SAUTO 02-09-2016 01:02 PM

Holy ****, lawsuit

ptlyon 02-09-2016 01:11 PM

He probably would play better drunk

eDave 02-09-2016 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 12073223)
He probably would play better drunk

You saw that when he was at A&M surely.

BigMeatballDave 02-09-2016 01:13 PM

So, the Browns are Enablers? :)

ChiliConCarnage 02-09-2016 01:23 PM

That franchise needs to be aborted.

Baby Lee 02-09-2016 01:25 PM

I, for one, feel worst for Hog Farmer's boars.

ptlyon 02-09-2016 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12073241)
I, for one, feel worst for Hog Farmer's boars.

He probably does them drunk as well

RealSNR 02-09-2016 01:28 PM

If they were concerned about his privacy, they only had to say, "We're dealing with an off-the-field issue" or that he's out for "personal reasons" or whatever the preferred PR wording is

I don't know if this was Ray Farmer's fault or the coach's, but man, what a massive ****up Ray Farmer turned out to be. I'd be surprised if he works in an NFL front office in ANY capacity ever again.

ClevelandBronco 02-09-2016 01:32 PM

I just feel awful for that kid. Mother****er's been bulletproof all his life. He's going to have to tear off a crazy amount of armor to get well.

KCUnited 02-09-2016 01:33 PM

Concussion was the only thing they could come up with? Catapano missed a year plus of his career with no explanation and the Browns just blurt out concussion.

BigMeatballDave 02-09-2016 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12073246)
I don't know if this was Ray Farmer's fault or the coach's, but man, what a massive ****up Ray Farmer turned out to be. I'd be surprised if he works in an NFL front office in ANY capacity ever again.

Oh well. He had his 15 minutes on Hard Knocks. :)

Bambi 02-09-2016 01:38 PM

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scho63 02-09-2016 01:43 PM

Just when you think the Browns organization can't get anymore screwed up, they now have this shitfest to deal with.

The league should step in and auction off the Browns to the highest bidder. Payoff that crappy owner Jimmy Haslam and let him run his truck stops.

Baby Lee 02-09-2016 01:51 PM

Refresh my memory, wasn't Manziel the draft pick the owner took from a homeless dude outside the stadium? ROFL

-King- 02-09-2016 01:58 PM

Can they even punish the browns? The GM and coach who made that decision are fired. Hue Jackson wants nothing to do with Manziel. He doesn't even want to talk to him
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Red Dawg 02-09-2016 01:59 PM

They are screwed. Goodell should go ape shit on them with punishment. Any coach that knew could get banned for life or at least a year.

rabblerouser 02-09-2016 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 12073270)
Just when you think the Browns organization can't get anymore screwed up, they now have this shitfest to deal with.

The league should step in and auction off the Browns to the highest bidder. Payoff that crappy owner Jimmy Haslam and let him run his truck stops.

Well, to be fair, being drunk can totally look like a concussion.

:drool:

DaFace 02-09-2016 02:07 PM

I guess I don't see why this is a huge deal (in terms of league punishment anyway). It's just lying about an injury, which I'm sure happens all the time. Slap on the wrist? Sure. But some of you guys are acting like some sort of crime was committed.

KC_Lee 02-09-2016 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 12073270)
Just when you think the Browns organization can't get anymore screwed up, they now have this shitfest to deal with.

The league should step in and auction off the Browns to the highest bidder. Payoff that crappy owner Jimmy Haslam and let him run his truck stops.

Nah, just swap the Titan's ownership with the Brown's ownership. Then Jimmy Haslam can own the team in his brother's state.

Marcellus 02-09-2016 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 12073321)
I guess I don't see why this is a huge deal (in terms of league punishment anyway). It's just lying about an injury, which I'm sure happens all the time. Slap on the wrist? Sure. But some of you guys are acting like some sort of crime was committed.

Yea I agree. Had they hid a concussion by saying he was drunk the shit would hit the fan but really this seems very minor to me.

Valiant 02-09-2016 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 12073321)
I guess I don't see why this is a huge deal (in terms of league punishment anyway). It's just lying about an injury, which I'm sure happens all the time. Slap on the wrist? Sure. But some of you guys are acting like some sort of crime was committed.

Yeah i dont see the big deal. If it were reverse maybe and hiding a concussion. Teams lie about the injury severity all the time. Give them a 5k fine and be done.

Mr. Laz 02-09-2016 02:23 PM

League isn't going to be happy about the Browns manipulating the system. Concussions are THE hot button issue right now too.

It will be interesting to see what the punishment will be. Of course it will be more severe for the Browns than it would be for the Broncos,Patriots,Steelers etc.

Garcia Bronco 02-09-2016 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12073246)
If they were concerned about his privacy, they only had to say, "We're dealing with an off-the-field issue" or that he's out for "personal reasons" or whatever the preferred PR wording is

I don't know if this was Ray Farmer's fault or the coach's, but man, what a massive ****up Ray Farmer turned out to be. I'd be surprised if he works in an NFL front office in ANY capacity ever again.

OR they could say he had a concussion. It's takes a real twisted sense of reality to blame the Browns for Manziel's poor choices.

Hog's Gone Fishin 02-09-2016 06:40 PM

This is exactly why the Browns are a horrible organization . Lots of people go to work intoxicated and perform just fine. they should have just let Johnny roll .

Deberg_1990 02-09-2016 06:45 PM

"Tell the troof!l

GloucesterChief 02-09-2016 07:03 PM

I think the reason they did this was trade value. Concussion's are one thing but showing up to practice drunk completely kills any potential trade value particularly after Johnny's problems with alcohol.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-09-2016 07:09 PM

If Pioli got another job after burning a franchise to the ground and initiating a complete fan revolt amidst a totalitarian regime, there's no reason why Farmer couldn't either.

ShortRoundChief 02-09-2016 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 12073894)
This is exactly why the Browns are a horrible organization . Lots of people go to work intoxicated and perform just fine. they should have just let Johnny roll .

The only way I'd want to play for the Browns is if they let me play drunk.

Buehler445 02-09-2016 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 12073253)
Concussion was the only thing they could come up with? Catapano missed a year plus of his career with no explanation and the Browns just blurt out concussion.

TELL THE TROOF. /Will Smith.

Really though some PR firm needs shitcanned and sued for negligence. This stinks of spit out concussion. Hot topic nobody will **** with you.

eDave 02-09-2016 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 12073966)
If Pioli got another job after burning a franchise to the ground and initiating a complete fan revolt amidst a totalitarian regime, there's no reason why Farmer couldn't either.

Pioli is protected by the tree.

GloucesterChief 02-09-2016 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 12074321)
TELL THE TROOF. /Will Smith.

Really though some PR firm needs shitcanned and sued for negligence. This stinks of spit out concussion. Hot topic nobody will **** with you.

Like I said, trade value. It looks a lot better if Manziel is not playing due to concussion rather than Manziel showed up to practice drunk as a skunk.

RobBlake 02-09-2016 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 12073908)
"Tell the troof!l

lmao. nice

GloryDayz 02-09-2016 10:50 PM

Is showing up to work drunk all that terrible?

Asking for a friend...

GloucesterChief 02-09-2016 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 12074415)
Is showing up to work drunk all that terrible?

Asking for a friend...

After you went to rehab for alcoholism and have had all sorts of alcohol related incidents?

Most likely.

GloryDayz 02-09-2016 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 12074420)
After you went to rehab for alcoholism and have had all sorts of alcohol related incidents?

Most likely.

They should let fast boat submariners know this new rule... If they want to get the pig underway with a sober crew they might need an extra day.

bigbucks24 02-09-2016 11:46 PM

Which is worse?

1) A player shows up to work hungover. He complains of a headache, nausea, vomiting and sensitivity to light. These are all symptoms of a concussion. Doc puts him into concussion protocol.

2) A player shows up to work hungover. He complains of a headache, nausea, vomiting and sensitivity to light. These are all symptoms of a concussion. Doc says "Bullshit. You are hungover." Team announces to the world that JFB is leaving the team for "personal" reasons. JFB announces he has concussion symptoms but the Browns don't believe him.

Toby Waller 02-10-2016 01:34 AM

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Mav 02-10-2016 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigbucks24 (Post 12074498)
Which is worse?

1) A player shows up to work hungover. He complains of a headache, nausea, vomiting and sensitivity to light. These are all symptoms of a concussion. Doc puts him into concussion protocol.

2) A player shows up to work hungover. He complains of a headache, nausea, vomiting and sensitivity to light. These are all symptoms of a concussion. Doc says "Bullshit. You are hungover." Team announces to the world that JFB is leaving the team for "personal" reasons. JFB announces he has concussion symptoms but the Browns don't believe him.


Just gonna use this one. Johnny Manziel showed up drunk complaining of headaches and dizziness. By rule they had to put him in the Concussion protocol. Now whether or not he was intoxicated is a whole nother issue. But the Browns did nothing wrong.

Baby Lee 02-10-2016 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigbucks24 (Post 12074498)
Which is worse?

1) A player shows up to work hungover. He complains of a headache, nausea, vomiting and sensitivity to light. These are all symptoms of a concussion. Doc puts him into concussion protocol.

2) A player shows up to work hungover. He complains of a headache, nausea, vomiting and sensitivity to light. These are all symptoms of a concussion. Doc says "Bullshit. You are hungover." Team announces to the world that JFB is leaving the team for "personal" reasons. JFB announces he has concussion symptoms but the Browns don't believe him.

Gimme the phone, bitch. . . you ain't no Condoleezza!!

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Dartgod 02-10-2016 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 12074332)
Like I said, trade value. It looks a lot better if Manziel is not playing due to concussion rather than Manziel showed up to practice drunk as a skunk.

Has anyone ever seen a drunk skunk? I know I haven't.

Baby Lee 02-10-2016 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 12074644)
Has anyone ever seen a drunk skunk? I know I haven't.

Never stuck around long enough to check.

ptlyon 02-10-2016 08:10 AM

You mean I might have had a concussion all these years?

BossChief 02-10-2016 07:05 PM

Reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where George is trying to get fired from the Yankees and drags a championship trophy through the parking lot.

The kid is a **** up, but you have to wonder if he would be different in a different situation with a solid locker room and leadership.

GloryDayz 02-10-2016 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12075839)
Reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where George is trying to get fired from the Yankees and drags a championship trophy through the parking lot.

The kid is a **** up, but you have to wonder if he would be different in a different situation with a solid locker room and leadership.

Are you suggesting something Sir?

WeathermanKumke 02-10-2016 07:35 PM

Maybe Johnny showed grow a ****ing pair and not beat females. Oh wait, his father never gave him any because he was just as big of a ****ing failure as Johnny is. I hope he ended up killing himself because he couldn't get it under control like the little bitch of a man he is for hitting females.

SAUTO 02-10-2016 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeathermanKumke (Post 12075885)
Maybe Johnny showed grow a ****ing pair and not beat females. Oh wait, his father never gave him any because he was just as big of a ****ing failure as Johnny is. I hope he ended up killing himself because he couldn't get it under control like the little bitch of a man he is for hitting females.

You should have translated it to English when you edited this post.

SAUTO 02-10-2016 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12075839)
Reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where George is trying to get fired from the Yankees and drags a championship trophy through the parking lot.

The kid is a **** up, but you have to wonder if he would be different in a different situation with a solid locker room and leadership.

No.

WeathermanKumke 02-10-2016 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12075888)
You should have translated it to English when you edited this post.

Oh I'm sorry you don't have a ****ing college degree. Dumbass while trash from Mid Missouri probably on EBT and a already failed marriage. You ****ing think I care about your bird shit looking ass's opinion.

WeathermanKumke 02-10-2016 07:48 PM

But hey. You would stand up for Johnny since most white trash from urban Missouri does meth and beats their ex wives while they drink some shitty whiskey they got from ****ing Caseys like the pathetic white trash they are.

SAUTO 02-10-2016 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeathermanKumke (Post 12075899)
Oh I'm sorry you don't have a ****ing college degree. Dumbass while trash from Mid Missouri probably on EBT and a already failed marriage. You ****ing think I care about your bird shit looking ass's opinion.

Whoa.

Take it easy there you dumb ****ing ****. Send that unintelligible post you wrote to whatever shit hole community college you have a degree from and threaten a lawsuit unless they give you your money back...

SAUTO 02-10-2016 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeathermanKumke (Post 12075902)
But hey. You would stand up for Johnny since most white trash from urban Missouri does meth and beats their ex wives while they drink some shitty whiskey they got from ****ing Caseys like the pathetic white trash they are.

Holy ****. I wasn't, and never have, taking up for Manziel.


I was just pointing out the fact that your post made no sense, yet you read it and EDITED it and it still made no sense.


some college degree

Baby Lee 02-10-2016 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12075904)
Whoa.

Take it easy there you dumb ****ing ****. Send that unintelligible post you wrote to whatever shit hole community college you have a degree from and threaten a lawsuit unless they give you your money back...

Ignore our pesky little race baiter, he drunk.

SAUTO 02-10-2016 07:52 PM

I get whiskey from an old guy and it comes in mason jars. Lol

WeathermanKumke 02-10-2016 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12075904)
Whoa.

Take it easy there you dumb ****ing ****. Send that unintelligible post you wrote to whatever shit hole community college you have a degree from and threaten a lawsuit unless they give you your money back...

Coming from a guy that owns an auto parts store 😂😂😂. Why would I listen to a ****in bum?

WeathermanKumke 02-10-2016 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12075911)
Ignore our pesky little race baiter, he drunk.

Too bad I'm white. Ask the ****ing mods you sand****er

SAUTO 02-10-2016 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeathermanKumke (Post 12075915)
Coming from a guy that owns an auto parts store 😂😂😂. Why would I listen to a ****in bum?

LMAO youve hit your head on the nail...

Otter 02-10-2016 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeathermanKumke (Post 12075902)
But hey. You would stand up for Johnny since most white trash from urban Missouri does meth and beats their ex wives while they drink some shitty whiskey they got from ****ing Caseys like the pathetic white trash they are.

Did a guy from Oalthe, KS just make fun of someone for being from mid-Missouri? ROFL </br></br> I get to laugh at this because of where I live. These trolls are crawling out of the woodwork lately.

SAUTO 02-10-2016 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeathermanKumke (Post 12075918)
Too bad I'm white. Ask the ****ing mods you sand****er

Whaaaaaaattt?


Whoa!


Again calm down lil bitch...

SAUTO 02-10-2016 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter (Post 12075926)
Did a guy from Oalthe, KS just make fun of someone for being from mid-Missouri? ROFL </br></br> I get to laugh at this because of where I live.

Mid Missouri isn't urban.


No ****ing idea what he meant.

Baby Lee 02-10-2016 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeathermanKumke (Post 12075918)
Too bad I'm white. Ask the ****ing mods you sand****er

Too bad you're ****ing drunk, among about 50 other regrettable attributes.

WeathermanKumke 02-10-2016 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12075935)
Too bad you're ****ing drunk, among about 50 other regrettable attributes.

I don't drink. Drinking is for those pathetic losers like Johnny Footbsll who want to beat their wives. Same with Pill Poppers who get addicted and die from Overdoses. Those who take lives while under the influences should be murdered as well. Just like any rapist or pedophile should have their testicals removed and their dicks chopped off but we all know Missouri has the highest Rape per Capita in the USA

WeathermanKumke 02-10-2016 08:17 PM

Just like ****ing India. We should be at war with them instead of ISIS. They worship a cow and let rape and corruption run wild. Some super power my ass. America isn't even a good country because it's filled with pathetic white trash and Welfare recepiants who cry on social media websites when their team ****ing is garbage.

Dinny Bossa Nova 02-10-2016 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeathermanKumke (Post 12075955)
I don't drink. Drinking is for those pathetic losers like Johnny Footbsll who want to beat their wives. Same with Pill Poppers who get addicted and die from Overdoses. Those who take lives while under the influences should be murdered as well. Just like any rapist or pedophile should have their testicals removed and their dicks chopped off but we all know Missouri has the highest Rape per Capita in the USA

Is your oos crying? I think your oos is crying.

My oos weeps for yours.

Dinny

Easy 6 02-10-2016 08:27 PM

The Weatherman talking about a strong front, keeping wednesday night interesting with a 100% chance of angry flurries

SAUTO 02-10-2016 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12075965)
The Weatherman talking about a strong front, keeping wednesday night interesting with a 100% chance of angry flurries

ROFL

GloucesterChief 02-10-2016 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeathermanKumke (Post 12075955)
I don't drink. Drinking is for those pathetic losers like Johnny Footbsll who want to beat their wives. Same with Pill Poppers who get addicted and die from Overdoses. Those who take lives while under the influences should be murdered as well. Just like any rapist or pedophile should have their testicals removed and their dicks chopped off but we all know Missouri has the highest Rape per Capita in the USA

Sounds like you need a drink buddy.

GloryDayz 02-10-2016 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeathermanKumke (Post 12075915)
Coming from a guy that owns an auto parts store 😂😂😂. Why would I listen to a ****in bum?

Let me add to all of this they you're an asshole and you Mom and Dad did a terrible job.

GloryDayz 02-10-2016 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeathermanKumke (Post 12075955)
I don't drink. Drinking is for those pathetic losers like Johnny Footbsll who want to beat their wives. Same with Pill Poppers who get addicted and die from Overdoses. Those who take lives while under the influences should be murdered as well. Just like any rapist or pedophile should have their testicals removed and their dicks chopped off but we all know Missouri has the highest Rape per Capita in the USA

Yes you do, and yes you are. Just because you don't remember doesn't mean you don't. Dicklips!

Rausch 02-10-2016 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeathermanKumke (Post 12075955)
I don't drink. Drinking is for those pathetic losers like Johnny Footbsll who want to beat their wives.

Or Ben Franklin and Jesus Christ...

The Franchise 02-10-2016 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeathermanKumke (Post 12075918)
Too bad I'm white. Ask the ****ing mods you sand****er

Well that definitely deserves a red card.

Chiefshrink 02-10-2016 09:53 PM

Makes you wonder if he ever played any games in college buzzed.

ClevelandBronco 02-10-2016 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeathermanKumke (Post 12075918)
Too bad I'm white. Ask the ****ing mods you sand****er

There aren't that many "p"s in "sandpiper."

GloryDayz 02-10-2016 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 12076094)
There aren't that many "p"s in "sandpiper."

I'm OK if you go all Talib on this asshole..

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TLO 02-10-2016 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeathermanKumke (Post 12075918)
Too bad I'm white. Ask the ****ing mods you sand****er

:clap:

splatbass 02-10-2016 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeathermanKumke (Post 12075899)
Oh I'm sorry you don't have a ****ing college degree. Dumbass while trash from Mid Missouri probably on EBT and a already failed marriage. You ****ing think I care about your bird shit looking ass's opinion.

Wow, you are really bad at this.

Chief Northman 02-10-2016 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeathermanKumke (Post 12075956)
Just like ****ing India. We should be at war with them instead of ISIS. They worship a cow and let rape and corruption run wild. Some super power my ass. America isn't even a good country because it's filled with pathetic white trash and Welfare recepiants who cry on social media websites when their team ****ing is garbage.

Sounds like you want out.....

Well, bye.

Go make up more fake free agency rumors. It might make you feel better about yourself and your country, you little attention whore you.... :)

LoneWolf 02-10-2016 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeathermanKumke (Post 12075899)
Oh I'm sorry you don't have a ****ing college degree. Dumbass while trash from Mid Missouri probably on EBT and a already failed marriage. You ****ing think I care about your bird shit looking ass's opinion.

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Dayze 02-11-2016 07:09 AM

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click


*sips coffee*...ahhh.


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