Bruce Arians: Parents who won't let kids play football 'are fools'
 

What the hell dude??


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Football is under attack. At least that's the perception for some, especially as we learn more about the effects of concussions on players' long-term health. And Cardinals coach Bruce Arians is tired of hearing about it.

"People that say, 'I won't let my son play [football]' are fools," Arians told TheMMQB.com.

"We have this fear of concussion that is real, but not all of those statistics, I think, can prove anything," he continued, echoing comments made by several NFL owners earlier this week.

“No, that's absurd," Cowboys owner Jerry Jones told the Washington Post about the relationship between chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE) and playing football. "There's no data that in any way creates a knowledge. There's no way that you could have made a comment that there is an association and some type of assertion. In most things, you have to back it up by studies. And in this particular case, we all know how medicine is. Medicine is evolving."

Texans owner Bob McNair added, "I think it's an important issue. I'm more concerned about the misconceptions people can have about it than I am about what's really taking place. We're studying this issue closely, more than anyone else. We've put up money for research before anyone else did. Our medical scientists still don't know what the cause of CTE is. It appears that if you've had multiple concussions from whatever you've been doing, riding a bicycle, skateboarding, it's not just football, that there's a possibility it could lead to CTE."

Meanwhile, Arians has nothing but good things to say about football.

"This is the greatest game in the world," he said. "I think it teaches more values than any other game that you play. You have things that happen in your life that aren't going to be good. If you play football, you know how to handle them. It doesn't necessarily equate in track and other things."

Last week, during a roundtable discussion on concussion research with the Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations, NFL senior VP for Health and Safety Policy Jeff Miller was asked if he thought there was a link between football and CTE.

“The answer to that question is certainly yes," he said.

It was the first time the league publicly acknowledged the link.

I guess it's settled then.

I don't see how anyone could deny the damage, research or not. I mean come on...dudes are running around full speed and smashing into each other.

Riding a bike? Several guys smashing heads into each other several times. Hmmm sounds the same to me.

OJ is still searching for the killer.

Do people fall of their bike, hit their head, and end up with a concussion? Sure. That's the exact opposite of what you're trying to accomplish though. I'd imagine it's pretty rare.

Football, like porn, involves ramming your head into objects repeatedly as a core part of the action.

Not really surprising there. Bruce Arians whole life has centered around football. He's naturally going to take it personally when his livelihood is under an attack of sorts. Hell of a coach, seems to be a pretty stand up dude, and a guy whose opinion no parent should give a shit about.

Opps

They have a vested interest in denying the health hazards caused by their industry. This is not unlike the way the tobacco companies denied for years that there was any link between cigarette smoking and lung cancer.

Bruce Arians is a ****ing moron. I will never let my son play football, it is not worth it. I love football but regret it.

This is my story which I have told here before, I will make it brief. In High School I thought I was invincible, young and had dreams of playing college ball. I was a pass rusher and ended up getting a few concussions. My doctor told me I need to quit because once you get concussions, they will become frequent even without hard contact,especially if not healed fully. I did not listen and went back out a week later, I then got a concussion during a walk through with little contact. I continued to play.
I then went on to play college rugby, against my family and doctors will. I ended up getting a concussion while playing that resulted in swelling and bleeding of the brain.

Now I am 24, is married with 2 daughters. I now live with body shakes, mini seizures, memory loss, and get to look forward to being in a wheelchair by the time I'm 50, and I lose a lot of body functions including my memory by the time I'm 50, which my doctor says is a certainty unless medical research can find ways to help people like me. Which all could have been avoided by listening to the doctor.

Luckily for me, now I just live life like it is my last day with my family. Because any day could be my last day capable of living a normal life.

Trust me, football is not worth it.

I won't refuse to let my son play football, but I also won't actively push him towards playing. When he is old enough, I will explain to him the risks and the benefits of playing football and let him decide if he wants to play. If he decides to play, I will also make sure he learns the proper technique and that he has the best equipment available.

The story you typed before you removed it didn't match this story. I smell bullshit.

LMAO

I only have a daughter, but this is the way I'll approach it with her and sports and if I have a son, the same.

Honestly, I'd worry more about wrestling than football if I end up with a son. Not only is there concussions and some potentially serious soft tissue injuries, but cutting weight, especially at a young age is a bad deal. I'm pretty sure I'll draw some pretty serious lines in the sand about cutting weight if I have a son that wants to wrestle.

Same goes with my daughter and gymnastics if it comes to that. I'm all about eating healthy, I'm not all about skipping meals for kids.

football teaches me about life everyday. I mean when I am working in the office everyday I really know how to push myself and eat everyone's lunch at one time out of the refridgerator, exept for Yan...he always brings fish.

I'd love for Arians to elaborate on what life lessons you get out of football that you can't out of another team sport. Great coach, but I lost some respect of him as a person.

You don't think there are life lessons that can be learned by playing football that can't be learned by playing baseball or basketball?

Until I get an example, yes. There is nothing unique about the game of football itself that translates to life outside of it more than any other team sport.

No. There are not. I'm the father of four children. Every single one of them at one point played football, baseball and soccer. They also individually participated in other organized physical activities. Track and field, volleyball, softball, rodeo, field hockey, tennis, karate, boxing, hiking, cycling and probably a few I can't remember off the top of my head. There is nothing specifically unique about youth football that can only be learned by participating in it.

LMAO

"I'm more concerned about how this perception hurts our bottom line than i am about the players getting their brains splattered"

Football teaches teamwork and trust better than any other sport. It is the only team sport that can't be won solely by having the best player on the field.

Nobody said that football teaches life lessons that can't be learned by participating in other activities. Football just does a better job of teaching teamwork and trust than these other sports/activities.

You can also learn life lessons about discipline and hard work from taking piano lessons, Bruce.

Football isn't the end-all-be-all teaching tool of the human experience, you beret-wearing reerun

I was a huge fan of Arians before he issued this statement.

Now, not so much.

And FWIW, "Life Lessons" can be gleaned in a myriad of ways, whether through family, friends, school, church, music, chores, first jobs, etc.

I learned my toughest "Life Lesson" at age 16, when I washed dishes in a restaurant from 6pm-1am, Thursday through Sunday, for 11 weeks that summer.

I learned that I never wanted to be a ****ing dishwasher, ever again.

No, it doesn't. Your second statement is also untrue.

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Arians puts this out in the media? What a complete idiot. Shut your pole hole n coach, coach.

Much like what Dane pointed out, each kid has to learn his/her own lessons. And sometimes football is the best avenue for the requisite lesson. Sometimes it isnt.

How is it not the same?? I typed the 1st one on my phone and then then I went back through my posts and found my detailed version. Everything is the same except detail. Why in the world would I lie on a messageboard that I barely visit

Also I was just sharing my story

Keep digging your own grave, dumb****s.

LOL. And Ariens shows up with a backhoe.

ROFL whoops. What did the original say? You got some splainin to do brucey.

It was the same story... only difference was I typed the 1st one on my phone without much detail. I went back and found l my detailed version copied and paste it.

In the original post I didn't mention I got my final concussion from Rugby. Which was bc I was tired of typing on my phone.

Original post said I got a few concussions during football which lead to the issues I live with today. Oh God forbid I went and found the more detailed version.

Just sharing my story bc this thread is talking about concussions

Well shame on wolf then.

Where were you living when you got hurt for the final time. I still think you're full of shit.

Good for you... why?? We don't even know each other. I am not going to argue with someone I don't know and will never meet about something in my personal life. The point of my post was to point out reality of concussions and why I wouldn't let my son (dont have a son have 2 daughters) play football. I am not looking for sympathy or even trying to debate anybody about concussions.

I just don't understand why you calling someone a liar who you don't know about an aspect of their personal life on a messageboard. Do you just like arguing with people??

I will not respond to anymore messages about this bc it is pointless. Also fyi I was in college playing backyard rugby with a group of friends/classmates on the rugby field looking for ways to kill Sat mornings and learn a new sport

I played football until age 27 when I experienced my 3rd concussion. That was enough for me. It goes beyond just concussions, with the back and knee tweaks on a weekly basis.

I never had a concussion in high school football though. I think that I'd let my boys play, but I wouldn't advocate that they try to go beyond that. It'd be their choice and I'd make them well aware of what the future would hold.

OK. Name another sport that teaches those two things as well as football.

Thank you for sharing your story.

Dont let a few Jackholes run you off.

Did you see his original story? If not, then shut the **** up.

What is different? Yes I left out that I got another concussion playing backyard rugby in college. . Who cares? Doesn't change the fact I got concussions playing football. In high school I got a few concussions with one leaving me unconscious with little contact, that started causing me to have issues. I was still stupid enough to play backyard rugby and got another concussion.

So to wrap it up for you. I got 3 concussions in High School. Last one knocked me out and caused temporary swelling on the brain. Which caused me to have shakes and other issues. Went to college was stupid and got another one playing backyard rugby which lead to bleeding on the brain.

Last one was completely my fault and has been the main reason for my problems. I was stupid like a lot of people bc I didn't think concussions were serious at the time.

You got a concussion bad enough at the age of fifteen that it left you unconscious from light contact in a walk through, but continued to play football without incident? So you are saying that you played three more years of football without incident and then hurt yourself playing rugby? Sounds like complete bullshit.

Have you ever lived in West Unity or Montpelier?

It's been a while since this guy has made an appearance.

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In my playing days of a few sports (football/baseball in HS, basketball before that) I can say for me PERSONALLY.... no sport provided more character building like football did nor did any other teach me to always push myself to my limits like football did. That may not be the same for everyone else, but for me it was like that and because I was fortunate to only suffer one concussion over the course of playing contact football for 9 years, I didn't get some of the harsher consequences that some others would.

But I'll put it this way. I have multiple buddies from high school, more than I can count on one hand, who have told me over and over how much they regret not playing the sport.

It's easy for a lot of guys to say "You know, I don't think I want to fool with it (football), it's too much work and far too time consuming." It's what many do, and really it comes down to being lazy of course.

But man, that grind is what makes it such a special game. Regardless of how hard you work at baseball, basketball, etc., none of those grinds compare to the one with football in my experience. It feels like such a tighter brotherhood than anything else. Not that those sports aren't great too, but they didn't have the same lasting impact on me.

I'll always miss getting to strap up and play the game of football, and if I'm lucky enough to have a son, I'll let him decide what direction he goes with it after weighing the pros and cons. But I damn sure won't let him walk away from the game for fear of the grind that goes into a season, cause it is those regrets I hear about all the time.

No I have not....

Also mods please delete my account. I am not dealing with some guy I don't know trying to stalk me on in real life. I don't use this site much anyways. All I did was post a comment about concussions now I have some weirdo trying to track me down in real life. Why the **** does this matter to you so much??

283 posts in 3 years is not worth some weirdo trying to stalk me in real life

You have to create a thread telling everyone that you're leaving forever. That's how it works here.

WTF dude? It's not a big deal. Gosh!

ROFL

Why?? Nobody cares that I am leaving. I don't post enough. I enjoyed reading this site but having some dude look me up over not believing my story is ****ing weird.

Eh. Just step away for a bit. This is new guy hazing. Nothing more.

#freshfish

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I have seen what people do on here once they get a hold of ppls Facebook and I'm not dealing with that. Idc about this site enough. Barely use it

Nobody has your Facebook information. Lighten up you sniveling pussy.

Basically what happens is you create an account. Your hair falls out. You get laid off you wife starts ****ing someone attractive phobia's makes your new wife fat you **** someone at a chiefsplanet event your favorite hat gets real life white people shit on it. Then the hat is burned. Then people ask for money to play fantasy sports and steal it after that people tell you to drink anti-freeze. Other than that..it's a good chiefs related site!

You had it easy.

You left out the penis growth and decreased 40 time.

I'm not being a pussy.. I just don't want some guy I don't know posting shit from my Facebook. I saw what a guy did a couple months ago with somebody's Facebook pictures. I have 2 young daughters.


Why can't you just let it go?? You don't believe the story who cares?? I don't care if you believe me. Going to try and find me on Facebook is too far. What were you going to do message my family or friends??

I just don't care enough about this site to deal with that shit.

That guy gave him his real name. Don't do that.

Well, later then. I wish you'd stay

Yeah he gave him his name... LoneWolf went out of his way to try and find my profile without me giving him any information. That is different

I think LoneWolf is pushing the envelope a bit too far. Giving the guy shit is one thing, going past that is another story. Let it be man.

Ah. That's shitty.

Knock it off Lonewolf. Peace.

Because wolf is a creepy prick. That's what they do.

I'm not suggesting it, but isn't that a bannable action?

Though admittedly not provable.

This is proof he tried to look me up. That is not me but that is proof he attempted to find me. Which creeped me out, because he had no information of mine.

I am not trying to get anyone banned. I just don't want to deal with that shit. I am here to talk football and read what is going on in the world and Chiefsplanet is entertaining to me.

For me the best end to this is we just continue on like normal. I have no issue with him, in fact don't think we have even been in a discussion here. I didn't even recognize the name LoneWolf. I have no issue with someone calling me a liar, a bitch or whatever they want on here. I do have an issue with somebody attempting to find me to do whatever he planned on doing with my profile. If that was post stuff or message me or my family and friends

JFC, what the **** are you trying to prove? That you're a real badass?

You are acting like a total jackass in this thread.

As opposed to when else?

Lonelywolf is a notre dame dude. They all suck dick. Move on Bruce.

Just to clear up something, I never searched for any of this guys information outside of CP. I looked at his past posts because I apparently am the only one who read his original story before he deleted it and posted a different one. They didn't match and it sounded like bullshit so I looked at his past posting history.

I asked him a question about where he lived before because he referenced his high school in a past post and I wanted to see if he would lie to me. He did.

I have no intention of trying to look up any information outside of this site and I was basically just amusing myself by flipping him shit. I decided to really be an asshole when I found out that Brucey is a 49er fan who followed Alex Smith here.

I'm sorry if I creeped you out Brucey, but you don't need to worry about me posting any Facebook information on here. I don't even have a Facebook account so even if I had those intentions, which I don't, I couldn't see any of your information anyway.

Yes I did originally follow Alex here, I admitted it from the beginning. The thing about is that I wanted Kaep over Alex. I have never been a Alex nut-hugger. I am a member of several NFL teams messageboards. I have actually grown quite found of KC, my wife is actually a Chiefs fan. I am still not saying where I am originally from. If I made any lie about where I am from it is simply so you wouldnt post anything. I dont know you so I didnt know your intentions. I have seen what somebody did on here a while back.

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Can I offer out my hand as a truce? Lets just leave it at you dont believe me & go on with our lives.

no,someone might steal that.Hands in pockets at all times....even though you are typing on the internet...nevermind

There's no reason for you to offer a truce. You didn't attack me in any way.

If I took things a little too far, I apologize.

I accept your apology, only part that I had an issue with was the fact it appeared you were trying to look me up in person.

Glad we can both be men here. I have respect for anybody that can apologize.

An old guy...defending his cash cow? Obviously Arians needs 3 or 4 more houses. Take his word as truth...he would never lie for his own benefit.

Dark forces...

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Bruce Arians: "Come play football. It will teach you how to deal with death like NO OTHER sport can!"

Yup it's not like a slew of very good players are walking away in their prime or anything. Nothing to see here...

In my case, I played from 5th grade to 10th. I stopped because...well...I was not very good. I loved the sport, got my bell rung many times, jacked up my knee a little...and I don't regret a minute of it. I think my example is not everyone's though. At the end of the day, you have to decide if the benefits outweigh the detractions. My son played from 8 to 15, was a much better player than I was by far, but stopped by his 10th grade year. Of course, he went on to Rugby and MMA (but he never did a fight, just wound up doing the training) and he got hurt alot. But he survived and as of now is not showing any issues.

I don't know. I love the sport and what I learned from it, and at the age of 45 I have no regrets. But lets face it, I didn't have near the exposure as the guys in college and the NFL...but that's the point. Most kids won't play high school let alone college and professionally...I think not allowing your kid to play is a mistake based on my own experience, but everyone has to make their own call.

I can't say that football teaches life lessons better than any other sport, but for me, it certainly did. Between the gruelling mental and physical aspect, you have a brotherhood that stays with you. There is a loyalty and commeraderie that I will never forget. You learn your limitations and how to overcome them, or in my case, you learn your limitations and the humility to deal with them. You overcome fear. You deal with unfairness. You get the agony of defeat and the thrill of victory.

Other sports teach this as well, to be sure. But for me, football was way more intense than any other sport when it came to learning these lessons. I didn't want to deprive my son of that opportunity, and he played for many years before giving it up.

I guess, I think that not letting your kid play at the age of 9 or 10 because you are worried about concussions is an over protective reaction. You can't stop your kid always from getting hurt. But I understand parents not wanting to take the risk. To each their own. I just don't like the vilification of a sport (and by extension, the parents who allow their kids to play) that served me well and that I love more than any other. It's almost like, if you love your kids, you WON'T let them play football...and that's bullshit.

It was nice to see that little conflict handled like civilized men... bravo, gentlemen