Charles to the Patriots?
 

http://beantownbeattomdarcy.sportsbl...n-a-trade.html

what is Charles worth?

**** you and **** that.

simmer down Sally...I am just reporting what I read

:facepalm:

Could be, but considering the date of the article, I'm very, very skeptical.

Don't see it happening b/c the Patriots would offer well below market value, which might not be that much anyway. So, rather than take next to nothing for JC, I'd keep him and figure out a way to make it work with all 3 RB's. Less touches for Charles will be a good thing in ensuring he's at his best when needed. Just my opinion..

You actually made a thread about this...wow

I'd hate to see that, but it would be nice to see Jamaal get a ring, and Goodell certainly promised one to Kraft in return for tanking against Peyton Manning last season.

"As a traditional power runner Charles wiuld be a perfect compliment to Dion Lewis"

The sports knowledge of Pats fans folks.

from your source...

Think this is true? or a completely fabricated report to stir up hope and discussion?

I won't pretend to know what his value is truly worth, or play GM like many.. but for me, I'd say Charles should garner a 3rd rd pick that could get bumped up to a 2nd if he meets certain parameters ( like games played and yards ). :shrug:

No tears if something like this happens, but I'm just as happy keeping him. Just feels wrong that he could not be a Chief.. but shit happens.

I would honestly be okay trading Charles at this point. Good teams trade pieces while their value is still high.

Denver has two third round picks, I wouldn't mind if Elway gave you one of them for Charles.

The price goes up when talking to Denver...It will be both 3rd round picks

I think they'll be used to get a QB. One Brian Hoyer will be available...I wouldn't mind if Horse Face gave up both for him. :)

You need a guy like Jamaal to complement faster backs.

lol, no kidding

JC would break all of his personal records there. Since the Pats have not had a running game in.......ever, it would be a smart move on their part.

A couple years in NE would put his stats up close to HOF level.

I hope JC retires a Chief and these reports are bullshit speculation.

The deal's off completely when it comes to Denver.

Piss on Denver...

So now we're starting threads based on opinions from random fans of other teams?

If other sites follow suit, it will only be a matter of time before there are dozens of threads on dumb****.com based on the opinions of BEP.

Get this stupid shit out of here.

/thread

Not happening.

**** that with AIDS. I won't even read it

We traded for thier first rounder this year ROFL

Dumb as ****, as always.

Only a moron would pass on a second round pick for a 29 year old running back coming off his second ACL injury, whose game is predicated on slashing and cutting.

It's a silly fan speculation article, nothing more, nothing less.

This.
He seemed to do pretty well early in his career when his touches were limited.

I really like Ware and West complimenting him.

Both are capable starting RBs and as a duo even better. Charles realistically blocks all of that.

I'm not a fan of splitting the carries 3 ways. I think Ware is at best when he keeps getting fed the rock as the chains are moving down the field. Potentially constantly swapping him and cutting his carries by almost 1/3rd isn't going to maximize his full potential.

Who had a 3 way backfield last year? The Eagles? How did that work out? One guy ended up completely unhappy.

A 1st and 2nd this year.

I believe New England lost their first.

The Kansas City Chiefs signed running backs Charcandrick West and Spencer Ware to contract extensions on Thursday, which could spell the end of Jamaal Charles tenure with the team.

In the wake of Charles being lost for the season to an ACL injury, West and Ware combined to rush for more than 1,000 yards in 2015. The 29-year-old veteran is expected to be fully healthy by the start of training camp, but Kansas City has reportedly entered into trade discussions with the Miami Dolphins regarding Charles. With LeGarrette Blount's days in New England numbered, could the Patriots pursue the Chiefs' all-time leading rusher?

The Patriots came into this offseason with needs at offensive line, wide receiver, and running back. To this point, the team has traded for OL Jonathan Cooper and signed wide receivers Chris Hogan and Nate Washington to replace Brandon LaFell. The team has also brought in UConn product and former San Diego Chargers running back Donald Brown on a one-year deal, but with big-name players like Arian Foster, Ronnie Hillman, and Charles on the roster, his roster spot is not guaranteed. With Dion Lewis recovering from his own ACL injury and no real "feature" back on the roster, Charles would be worth taking a flyer on at the right cost.

Talks between the Chiefs and Dolphins have resulted in Kansas City trying to move running back Knile Davis rather than Charles, Armando Salguero of the Miami Herald reports. Salguero goes on to say that this is in part due to Davis requesting a trade after falling behind West and Ware on the depth chart last season, as well as Kansas City's hope that Charles can rebound from his reconstructive knee surgery. The Chiefs would need to be "blown away" with an offer for Charles, and Miami does not appear to have the resources to do so, according to Salguero.

Whether the Patriots have or would be willing to part with a significant package for Charles is unknown to this point, but it could happen. New England sent a second-round draft pick to the Cincinnati Bengals running back Corey Dillon back in 2004, who also happened to be 29 at the time of the deal. The Patriots already showed they were willing to deal impact players when they shipped Chandler Jones to the Arizona Cardinals, and they could use the second-round pick acquired in the trade to acquire a new running back. Since Dillon joined the Patriots, Bill Belichick has been hesitant to invest in other big-name running backs.

Charles signed a two-year extension to keep him in Kansas City through the 2017 season, but a laundry list of injuries could make the Chiefs opt to go with younger, cheaper legs. Given the remaining money owed to Charles, the Patriots may need to restructure his deal in order to make it work, but that is common in the NFL today. Not only could the Patriots strike gold if Charles returns to his old self, but as a traditional power runner, he is the prefect compliment to the pass-catching Dion Lewis.

Charles ran for 364 yards and four touchdowns on 71 attempts last season before his injury.

The entire article with some bolded stuff.
All OPs should include the entire article IMO.

I don't like the idea of getting rid of Charles, although for a 2cd round pick I just might have to pull the trigger on a trade like that.

I believe Davis is the obvious choice to be traded. Trading Charles to anyone within our division is out of the question. I'd want Denver's 1st rounders for the next 3 years plus the damn horse statue to even take Elway's call.

With 3 picks in the top 60, the Chiefs could do serious damage in the draft.

If that was to happen (and I highly doubt it will), they could fill their CB and WR needs with great talent and have the opportunity to go with a DT/DE, LG or Safety with one of their second rounders.

I would be a massive talent haul that would solidify several positions for 4 years at minimum.

This calls for counter-speculation. Jamaal Charles and Alex Smith for Tom Brady.

Good for Charles if true. I hope in either case, he gets a ring next year. I love the guy so I would be happy for him to see him get do well..

Could be a win/win if we get sufficient picks in the draft.

The Patriots are going to spend $6m, plus the trade cost, on a running back coming back from ACL surgery, when they've already got Dion Lewis having to come back from the same thing, and pretty much nothing at all behind that?

Next rumor

Why would we give one of the 2 or 3 best players on our team to a team we will have to get by in the playoffs... makes no sense to me.....only way is if he is not what he was and that could be a possibility....

looser?

I remember when I was new and called out someone for saying "your and idiot"

Total face plant on my part.

Slow day here, huh?

This better not happen. Dorsey would be an idiot to trade him to them. Why are teams always helping them with trades? You want them to fail not get better.

TOM BRADY
never trade JC, and if you do make them hurt for it

LMAO

Tuckdaddy is a buffoon, but why would we want to trade our best player to the team most likely to be our #1 road block on the road to the Super Bowl?

You don't make these types of trades to conference contenders or within your division, IMO.

How ridiculous would their offense be with Brady, Charles, Gronk, Bennett, and Edelman?

Our defense doesn't have the horses to keep up.

If some team is dumb enough to trade a #2 for a 29 year old running back with two ACL surgeries, whose game is predicated on slashing and cutting, you do it.

And Charles is not the Chiefs "best" or most important offensive skill player.

It's a tie between Maclin and Kelce, although I lean Maclin at this point.

I think to describe Charles as a slasher and cutting is off the mark.

His game is about speed and burst, though he does have a little more power than he's given credit for.

He doesn't make people miss.
He finds a seam and hits it.

He is a bike rider runner.


His cuts are sometimes more leans

I agree. And that's what makes his second ACL injury even more concerning that his first.

He's not a straight ahead, power type runner.

He appears to be off-balance when he runs but that's, as you stated, him leaning, which put pressure on his knees.

Won't happen.

But it's all about buying low and selling high

Think about what happened to Dwayne Wade, Derrick Rose, and Ginobli's knees. Jamaal Charles is no different. All the side stepping and slashing took a toll and he will never be the same guy. Could we work him in to the lineup and get 60% of the snaps he was taking before? Absolutely. But his 2017 salary is too much to stomach. Unless he restructures, this could be his last season with us.

Charles and Ware can be the best 1-2 punch in the league.

Charles is elite, and Ware will be there soon.

That's all this is and from a no-name source. Dion Lewis meets the needs of the Pats need and they can find some half-decent goal-line back to cover the rest.

I agree. Although if West/Ware in 2017 is what we have to go with, we are in good hands behind this improving O-line and plenty of draft picks to draft depth if Davis/Charles end up leaving.

Releasing Charles in 2017 rather than paying him that 8+ million is big money to spend on Poe +/- a free agent corner/safety/linebacker if that's we are in desperate need of obtaining next off season.

:thumb:

You jump on that quicker than Jenny Mccarthy 20 years ago after her 3rd martini.

:hmmm:
Interesting analogy. I like.

LMAO

No one on this team is better at their job than Jamaal Charles. The only argument I'll even field is Houston. RB isn't a very important position, but one of those two players is our best, no doubt in my mind.

Your assessment of Jamaal's running style makes me question whether you've even watched any Chiefs games.. Or perhaps you watch them on a small screen?

Jamaal's a one-cut, downhill runner. That's likely why he's got the highest YPC averages in league history. There are no wasted movements with that guy. He sees the hit, he hits the hole. He's NOT a scatback.

Maclin is the best at his job, no question about it.

Maclin's great. I love the guy, but in 6 seasons he's never once put up elite production from a numbers perspective.

Yeah, he was sooooooooooooo important that two undrafted free agents led the Chiefs to a 11-1 record and a playoff win.

****ing dumb, as usual.

The Chiefs replaced their "star" running back with two UDFA's and didn't miss a beat.

The Chiefs lost their best WR (by far) and it all but stymied the offense.

More dumbassery from one of the bigger dumbasses that posts in this forum.

You need to upgrade your Apple Watch to an iPhone this year. Maybe your takes will improve with the larger viewing screen, although I doubt it.

Ha I remember that. I had someone else jump me for moran so don't feel bad :D

Run Charles until his wheels fall off.

Already happened.

I'm a what? **** off you asshole. You agreed with me but call me names you Dumbass idiot.

we will be almost 3 years removed from the last time Charles put up elite production for his position.

and really he only ever had 3 elite years. Maclin and Kelce are at least trending upward, and to a lesser degree Spencer Ware, also trending upward despite small sample size.

I legitimately said the RB position isn't important. Why are you the way you are?


Again, you're arguing importance.

Stop talking sense to ThaVirus.

He doesn't get it.

Not really. He led the entire league in TDs in 2013 and was, IIRC, second or third in total TDs in 2014 despite missing a couple games.

And yet the Chiefs went 11-1 without him.

He's not as important as you believe.

Actually, it's not even close.

I don't believe I've argued his importance in this entire thread.

We trade Jamaal Charles to the Patriots, then he runs 200 yards against us in the championship game. No thanks, Jeff.

Being the best at your job means being healthy for the playoffs and HOLDING on to the ball.

90% of this board was convinced the season turned the night he fumbled away the donk game.

West and Ware salvaged the offense and just resigned for modest deals.

Love Charles, but it is what it is...time waits for no one.

Really?

So the "best player" isn't important?

Alex Smith is more important to this team than Jamaal Charles. Jamaal Charles is better than Alex Smith.

Do you understand what I'm saying?