Chiefs have multiple draft prospects/FA's visiting
 

Vernon Butler DL La Tech
Kyle Peko DL Oregon

And also FA's Da'Quan Bowers (Q but I'm lumping him in) and CB Phillip Adams.

Arrowheadpride has this info on their front page, and here is the Peko tweet:

Terez Paylor@TerezPaylor-
Oregon State DT Kyle Peko is visiting with the #Chiefs today, I'm told.

Well there definitely appears to be legitimate interest in Vernon Butler. Isn't this the second or third time we've met with him?

Phillip Adams info

5'10 3/8 192 lbs
4.50 40
7.16 3 cone
34 1/2 vertical

Not really impressed by him.

Butler excites me

He's been in the league for 7 seasons now... Not sure that info is really relevant to him as a player. Tape is out there.

I'm sticking with my guy Vernon Butler as the best player available and a guy that could help us the most day 1.

DeVito hasn't been signed for a reason, and this guy has Muhammed Wilkerson type potential. With Houston coming off an ACL, guys like this can rotate and put pressure up the middle consistently.

I'm taking Butler over any CB available, even WJIII (it's close tho).

If Butler is gone, I'm also interested in Hassan Ridgeway. 9.5 sacks in 18 games at Texas and a 7.3 3 cone. Man we're in a great position to get a needed defensive stud.

You could possibly get ridgeway in yhe 2nd from what I'm seeing around the draftguys.

Also some interesting news for you draft guys..Chiefs DB coach at Southern Miss looking at CB Kalan Reed.

5'11" 199 lbs
4.38 40
41 1/2 vertical----->would have been tied for 1st at combine
11 bench reps

19 passes defended in the last 2 years and PFF's 3rd highest rated cover corner from this draft.

Man, the things the defense could do with a DL rotation of Poe, Bailey, Howard and a guy lik Butler...

Problem is, I don't know if Sutton could handle the subbing.

For anyone interested in following along or adding to the CP list, here's a running tab on who we've reportedly met with:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...php?p=12164767

1. Vernon Butler DL LA Tech
2. Kalan Reed CB Southern Miss

Yeah that would be a very good first 2 rounds in my eyes

Yea I'd be pretty happy with that.

anybody know much about adams? decent vet depth to bring on board?

Yeah, not bad.

I have been developing a bit of a man crush on the olb from Utah state. Wouldn't be a bd 3rd rounder of we could get it back

If we draft Butler does that mean the end of Poe with us in your opinion?

No but it would be insurance if Poe decides to hold out for an insane amount of money.

Does his number have to really be insane for us not to be able to afford to keep him? I know there is always a way around the cap so to speak but we have been handing out some nice contracts. We still have one to finish up with Berry.

DL round 1 makes the most sense. The talent available will be an incredible value. Vernon Butler, Chris Jones and Hassan Ridgeway are legit top 25 talents in any other draft.
Every starting DL will be a FA in the next consecutivw years, so it's hard to believe we will be able to keep all of those guys.

Nick Williams will most likely cost more than 600k after this season so he could be gone in 2017.

It just makes sense to have an amazing rotation at DL, especially with Houston coming off his injury.

27 years old, selected in the 7th round of the 2010 Draft.

He's bounced around the NFL with the 49ers, Patriots, Seahawks, Raiders, Jets and Falcons through out his career.

He's appeared in 78 games with 11 starts with 5 INT's, 3 Fumble Recoveries and 99 tackles.

He seems like a special teams/5th CB type of player.

IMO, it makes more sense to have a Blue Chip CB like Jackson, Apple or Alexander.

Selecting a late first round DT, which is one of the toughest transitions from college to the pro's, is a guarantee of nothing in 2016.

That and this draft has depth when it comes to defensive linemen. I'd rather grab someone like Jackson, Apple or Alexander in the 1st and then grab a defensive linemen like Bullard or Day in the 2nd.

Agreed.

The drop off in CB talent from #28 to #59 will be significantly higher than the drop off in talent from the DE/DT's, or so we've been led to believe.

Neither is a CB, or any position. CB arguably the hardest position to learn/play in today's NFL.

I like those 2 positions in the first 2 rounds, however, the talent could be different.
For example, NFL.com says WJIII compares to Phillip Gaines. Same site says Vernon Butler compares to Muhammed Wilkerson. Now that's just their opinion, but if it's how you feel as a GM, which player would you take at 28?

Great point. I think the Chiefs are doing their homework on that right now with Al Harris/Emmitt Smith at Southern Miss checking out Kalan Reed.

No but it seems to match the pattern that Dorsey has started of using a first round pick on the next years biggest FA to be (Fisher/Albert, Ford/Hali, Peters/S Smith, Poe/???). So given this history I would not be at all surprised (although I think CB is much more of a need currently).

But once again, the drop off in talent between Round 1 & 2 for the cornerback position is much greater than the drop off in talent among the DT/DE group.

Dorsey has proven that he'll take the BPA but it's likely that the drop off in talent between those positions will factor in his decision.

I agree, but if Apple, Alexander, and WJ3 are gone, DL will likely be BPA. The only other corner I can see us taking is Burns and that might be a slight reach at 28.

I still trust Dorsey's ability to find a corner at the end of round 2.

I can see Dorsey taking Alexander, but I'm wondering if he would rather have a guy like Artie Burns.
Alexander has the same measurables as Steven Nelson. The difference is that one played on an elite surrounding team.

I can't see Dorsey passing on a guy like Vernon Butler for Mackensie Alexander.

The only difference between Alexander and Nelson is that one guy played on an elite team.... ROFL

The guy is on the most talented defense in CFB and he can't get one INT in his entire career there?
That's not a red flag to you?

Update: another CB coming in for a visit.

Terez Paylor@TerezPaylor-CB Elie Bouka will visit the Arizona Cardinals this weekend. Hearing #Chiefs will likely work him out later this month or in early May.

No.

This. It's hard to get INT's when QB's don't throw your way.

I've seen him make enough plays on the ball to not be concerned. He also looked pretty good catching the ball in his pro day drills.

Of course it's a concern, but what the hell does that have to do with him and Steven Nelson being the same player because they have the same measurables? ROFL

I'm sure there are 25 corners leaving the NCAA this year with the same measurables as Honey Badger and Chris Harris jr, but that doesn't mean they're the same player.

At 6'4 and 320 he's a huge dude who's pretty locked in at NT to me. So does he play over Poe or Howard? Does Poe move to DE? I just don't think that would be in the best interest of the team to use the 1st round pick on a player that day 1 would be the 3rd string player at that position.

If you are thinking we'd just bump out Poe or Jaye to Devito's spot, why mess with anything that was already working and just draft Devitio's replacement in someone like Nkemdiche? I want an impact player day 1, and if we're going the DL route, I'd rather pick the guy who would actually start.

Also would make sense why Dorsey was at the Ole Miss Pro day and there hasn't been any talk on Devito lately.

Butler can probably play anywhere on the line ala Howard, so he'd provide depth and versatility. He also has the ability to play inside in our sub packages and give us an interior pass rush boost.

Poe is a free agent next year, Howard the following year, and then Bailey the year after that. Taking advantage of one of the best DL classes available would be a smart choice if the top corners are gone.

Bring in Kalan reed

I feel like Dorsey has done pretty well at finding that Howard prototype with his later picks and waiver wire pickups. He probably can find more of those type of guys if he needed to for versatility and depth, but Nkemdiche is a great talent that could really help out the defense in a spot that didnt have a whole lot of production from Devito these past few years from a pass rush standpoint.

:D Ty Law and Kyle Turley too?

Damn, if we draft Butler we are guaranteed at least two butt fumbles a year by Sanchez.

How bout using him to spell Poe. A rotation at NT would be good.

It's POKER time!!! How many times did we bring in Dee Ford ??? Anybody see the Marcus Peters pick coming last year ? I say with Dorsey you watch who he doesn't bring in or even talk to.

Player Team Position Total Snaps Off Snaps Off Snap Pct Def Snaps Def Snap Pct ST Snaps ST Snap Pct
70-M.Devito KC DL 333 0 0.0% 293 26.9% 40 9.0%
92-D.Poe KC DL 806 1 0.1% 759 69.8% 46 10.3%
93-D.King KC DL 5 0 0.0% 0 0.0% 5 1.1%
96-J.Howard KC DL 801 0 0.0% 752 69.1% 49 11.0%
97-A.Bailey KC DL 624 0 0.0% 582 53.5% 42 9.4%
98-N.Williams KC DL 195 0 0.0% 182 16.7% 13 2.9%
99-R.Nunez-Roches KC DL 47 0 0.0% 22 2.0% 25 5.6%

It was well documented last year that both Dorsey and Reid spent significant time with Marcus Peters 7 to 14 days before the draft.

With Poe and Howard BOTH taking damn near 70% of the defensive snaps, we need a better defensive rotation to keep the guys fresh in the fourth quarter and the hopeful playoff run. If Butler's there, I'd have a hard time passing on him if I were GM. Obviously, CB is a bigger CURRENT team need. However, Poe could be a problem next year if he demands JJ Watt money. Damned if you do, and damned if you don't.

And I'm pretty sure Ford had a visit that didn't get reported through the media till after the draft. I think we might've had a visit with Peters too that also didn't get reported.

The Chiefs staff flew to Oakland to to speak with Peters and his family personally. It was well documented.

Precisely !!!

The good thing is there will be a damn good DL available in the 2nd with this years class being so deep. If one of the top corners is there you go that direction in the 1st, then take the best DL available in the 2nd.

If Jackson, Apple, and Alexander are all gone, there will probably be a stud DL available like Nkemdiche, Buter, Jones, or Robison.

Most of them don't get reported, so Butlers being the exception to the rule doesn't mean his chances of getting picked are any different.

I know. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about him visiting KC.

Jarraud Powers must be asking for a lot of money.

Gotcha... Then again, perhaps it's best Dorsey doesn't tip his hat to prevent somebody trading up on draft day. Regardless, I trust in his decision with his track record so far.

I frankly will be shocked if the Chiefs do not add another corner in free agency. This may happen after the draft, but no doubt there is a waiting game going on with the current tier of free agents. There are a few experienced options who could add depth or be stop-gaps in a pinch.

Cromartie, Hall, Powers and even Finnegan might have some value on short term, cheaper deals to name a few.

More visits at Arrowhead per Terez Paylor


UTSA DT Brian Price is visiting the #Chiefs today, I'm told.

Heard Akron OLB Jatavis Brown, Mich. St CB Arjen Colquhoun and Baylor OL Blake Muir visited the #Chiefs recently.

Considering that Smith has NB experience....I wouldn't doubt it if they draft a CB and call it good.

Smith?

You mean Jimmy Wilson?

Yep that's what I meant.

We desperately need another CB in the worst way. Playing safeties at CB is not what I want to see anymore.

Maybe take a page out of Denver's plan and draft a CB with your late first round pick to be your 3rd CB. But then again, it really does depend on what they think of Nelson.

I hope a 2nd round CB can help us so we have the versatility to pick another position round 1 (Vernon Butler or Paxton Lynch if he falls)

Multiple safeties is way of the league now. CB's can't cover athletic TE's, linebackers are generally too slow and not athletic enough so it falls to an extra safety.

Also, everything I've read recently points to Lynch going Top Ten at best or falling to the Rams at #15 (if they don't move up). It doesn't look like there's a chance he'll fall to #28.

The Paxton lynch hype needs to end