Thoughts on the 2016 draft class
 

Chris Jones DL MSU
KeiVarae Russell CB ND
Parker Ehinger G/T Cincinnati
Eric Murray CB Minnesota
Demarcus Robinson WR Florida
Kevin Hogan QB Stanford
Tyreek Hill RB/PR West Alabama
DJ White CB Georgia Tech
Dadi Nicolas OLB Virginia Tech

What are your thoughts? Any steals? What's your initial grade?

B-

FAV pick of the draft for me is Demarcus Robinson kid could end up being a beast in the nfl if he keeps his head out of trouble.

Least fav KeiVarae Russell so much better there we could have had.

No clue, as of today though, I'd say b-

A

The first thing that stands out to me is that we didn't draft brokedicks this season. Pretty much the opposite of the 2014 draft class, which I'm extremely happy about.

I think Russell is the only player with a significant injury (broken leg) from the entire class and the guy played through a fracture all season.

Lot of boom or bust picks.

weird draft

main takeaway is dorsey's confidence, we let people take a lot of good players in front of us

in 3 years we'll think dorsey is a god or idiot

Which was my main Issue with this draft hope Dorsey proves me wrong.

I kinda wonder if we got snipped 2 or 3 times

I think these guys need to stay out of trouble and not do stupid shit.

Huge upside, who cares if some fail.

Thought Dorsey should had been more aggressive early instead of taking weak deals to slide down.

Jones is a good talent but idk what to think about Andy's drug addicted kid coaching him up.

3 corners is an awful lot in one class.

Robinson is a nice example of bet on da weed guy, but I would of liked to seen WR addressed earlier.

Hogan is a fine prospect to develop into a back up. They better hope Murray is ready if tinyhands goes down.

Taking the pregnant woman beater is baffling.

Hate the OL choice.

I'm not too enthrilled with this draft, but its not lile it was a disaster either.

we played to the strength of the draft in the first by going dl, but in an unorthadox way

we didn't address our most obvious need until the 3rd, and drafted several guys with/because of some rare athletic quality (and in spite of issues)...starting to sound 'typical dorsey'

if the draft were a map, it felt like we left the suburbs where most of the well known picks were and went for a drive on some back country roads...

The trade with the Bucs was wroth it.

The 49ers trade was godawful.

There doesnt look to be a day one starter in this bunch, but its been great for depth

Jones has a ton of upside, I feel better about this pick today

We can all breathe easier about the corner position, Dorsey really stocked up here

He took some real chances on guys with potential character issues, must be counting on this strong lockerroom to keep them in check

This was a no flash, all meat and potatoes draft

The same thing can be said for 2013, 2014 and 2015 (other than Marcus Peters).

I remember a few years back all the talking heads looking at Seattle's draft and saying WTF?

I'm hoping this has a similar outcome.

Yea I'm gonna be honest I've seen less then half of these players play.

Andy other, dead child, was the addict.

which begs the question: how much did we want these guys really?

dorsey had to know that teams were willing to jump them...

which again brings us back to dorsey's confidence in his own scouting

I'd give this draft a a solid B (85%) at this stage.

Jones, Russell, Ehinger and Robinson should all be contributors in 2016, with Ehinger challenging for a starting role. Hogan's a nice developmental piece.

I like Murray's upside and attitude. I'm not familiar enough with the other players to pass judgment but I don't care for the Hill selection, as he'll be a tough guy to root for this season.

Thought they both were.

He "wanted them" enough to draft them.

That should be enough.

B+

huh?

i'm referencing the players that teams jumped us to take

Both of Reid's sons were addicted to drugs.

Britt got hooked on painkillers after a high school football injury.

Britt made it out, Garrett did not.

My confidence comes from the turnaround we had last year and if we can build on that momentum. These kids are coachable so I think they will prove themselves sooner or later depending on how much they can soak up in TC.

Oh, my apologies :redface:

I think Dorsey has some struggles when it comes to anticipating and determining value.

jones willl give us rotational snaps at dl, and hopefully make an incredible group

one of the cbs will give us snaps at #3cb...i think gaines locks down #2 unless injured again

the rest are developmental, imo, and that's fine given how strong our roster is

What's your opinion on Ehinger Dane most websites seem to be mixed on him right now I've never heard of him before ?

Didn't get the names I was hoping for.
The trading back was a little frustrating, but not really a problem.

KC certainly focused on addressing need positions. I liked that much.

I would have preferred to stay at 28 and get Nkemdiche. Getting Chris Jones and Eric Murray is alright, I can live with it.

Hate the Russell and Ehinger picks. Should have stayed at took Vonn Bell.

Love, love DeMarcus Robinson. Hogan is solid for a 5th. I don't think I would have took the preggo beater. Don't give a damn about the 6th.

B+

feels like it, or he has borderline irrational confidence that he can simply find another player

I'm guessing they feel Russell is a starter outside?

ehringer is the head scratcher for me, with all the guards left...seems like he'd be there later, but clearly dorsey values him differently

sounds like he needs some strength before he can handle guard

1000X agree with the Vonn Bell statement

KeiVarae Russell will most likely go down as one of my all time hated picks from the chiefs.

That stupid ass contract he gave Dunta Robinson leads me to think he has bouts of reerunation.

Oh yeah and giving Fanaika anything beyond minimum.

Reid just said in his press conference that Hogan "Won't run out of gigabytes".

Says he has great anticipation, which is necessary for this offense and that he's got an above average arm, not great, not bad but above average. Thinks he's a great fit for the Chiefs.

Excluding Marcus Cooper, we now have 6 CBs.

Wish they would have saved one or two of those and brought in some badly needed OL depth.

Thought the philosophy behind the trades was good. It was a deep class in the middle and I thought they gained more than they gave up, value wise, at a point where it made sense to do so. And because of that activity they were able to address more areas than I thought possible on Thursday. If they get something long term out of 4 or 5 guys then I don't see how this draft couldn't be seen as a success. They basically checked most of the positional boxes they had.

That's just ****ing stupid beyond belief.

All American as a Freshman. Admitted to having answers to a test and was suspended for a year, came back and played lights out.

Perfect player for this defense and would have gone higher not for the broken tibia, which he actually played through.

Hating a guy before he's ever seen the field is CP Dumbassery at its finest and at this point, you're the Grand Master of Dumbassery.

actually, preggo puncher has to be the worst pick by default

:facepalm:

This Dorsey has made some boneheaded mistakes just like evey GM in the nfl in the end Dorsey is fallible.

The worst part is that he has a chance to be the most dynamic player from this draft and biggest early contributor.

Would have liked to get a day 1 guy at lg.

I like Vonn bell's skill set better wish we didn't trade down when we could have had bell so until he proves otherwise he is disappointment in my eyes

It's pretty clear that Reid like football players from Cincinnati.

Jason Kelce was a 6th, Travis Kelce was a 3rd, Ehringer a 4th.

It's hard to dislike a smart offensive lineman that's versatile enough to play all over the line, who's SPARQ number is high and has a nasty streak.

Reid's had good luck in the past and doubting him would be foolish at this point.

The biggest problem this regime has had IMO is CB depth. Dunta Robinson was a disaster in 2013, Chris Owens was a disaster in 2014 and Jamel Fleming/Marcus Cooper and Tyvonn Branch in the slot were all disasters last year.

I'm happy that Dorsey took a big step to fix that mess because it got us killed last season. We lost to Denver, GB and the Patriots mostly because of the damn secondary.

Dorsey had to save face for losing our 3 rd pick to recoup some picks,to your point about the unorthodox way IMHO.

He's a "disappointment" because you liked another player better?

Serious Question: Do you have Special Needs?

Glad to see the insane love affair with loading up on offensive linemen hasn't quite died here yet.

Hopefully he works out. Dunno if he's a day 1 starter though

The top of the Guard class was brutal. Waiting till Day 3 for a Guard was fine.

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Holy hell

The Chiefs lost to Denver in the last 30 seconds of the game on two fluke plays.

The Chiefs lost to the Patriots because Jeremy Maclin, Charcandrick West, Spencer Ware, Mitch Morse, LDT and Justin Houston were sidelined and Tamba Hali was no where near full strength.

It didn't help that Knile Davis fumbled in the Red Zone.

JFC.

I don't mean drafting one in round 1, but getting one that can step in a play right away.

Maybe the dude from cincy can

Oh I misunderstood "Day 1"

Yeah I would of liked of them to have gone with Boehm instead.

Definitely feel good about the attention to CB.. even if not the names I was expecting. There is a lot for Emmitt Thomas and Al Harris to coach up. :)

This draft was so deep with defensive players that it pushed down offensive players by at least one round, if not two.

If Ehinger isn't a starter Day One, I'll be disappointed because his competition consists of a journeyman (Reid) and a heavy footed guard/center (Fulton).

I think the other player has a brighter Future in the nfl based on that its a disappointment to me I don't understand what's so hard to understand about that.

:facepalm:

Chiefsplanet is going to run out of facepalms today.

Techier said he will be competing for LDT and Fulton spot's on the line.

You didn't see Peyton Manning complete 4 passes on Jamel Fleming on an 80 yard drive to tie the game, including a TD?

You didn't see Tom Brady getting the ball out in 2 seconds to the underneath routes the entire game?

You didn't see Aaron Rodgers completely embarrass Marcus Cooper in man coverage for 2 TD's in GB?

This has been a huge routine problem every year Dane, and Dorsey drafting 3 CB's after drafting 2 last year proves this point.

Eh, we did need another guy on the interior for optimum depth/flexibility and I'm perfectly fine with using a 4th to do it, thats where I actually suggested we take one

Heres my draft guide on the guy

Pros - has tremendous length, a powerful punch and nasty mean streak. Has the ability to bully defenders,especially when he gets to the second level

Cons - has some athletic limitations and can be beaten with quickness inside. Shaky body control when moving in space

Bottom Line - uses length effectively, will appeal to power blocking teams as a potential starter

I really liked the Jones pick and the defensive backs. The DB's are all tough players with experience. Excited to replenish that group.

Hogan was a worthwhile pick. If they can improve his mechanics, you've got a winner.

The OL I'll defer to Reid and Dorsey, I'm sure he'll be a contributor given their history.

Robinson is awfully talented, he's probably worth a shot where we picked him.

Hated the Hill pick. He may well be Devin Hester, still hate the pick.

I've really never heard anyone say anything positive about Nicholas as a football player, but that late in the draft, I'm sure someone in the org thinks he's worth trying to develop.

Yup lets hope this Draft pushes fleming and Cooper off the roster at some point.

:facepalm:

The other teams are paid to compete, too.

Without the two fluke plays against Denver in the final 30 seconds (along with 5 total turnovers) the Chiefs win that game and likely the #1 seed.

Blaming it on Fleming is just dumb.

Okay, that makes zero sense.

LDT is the right guard. Currently, Fulton is a swing guard/center and has not been assigned a starting role.

Ehringer may compete with Fulton for the left guard position but he's not competing with LDT.

I'm giving it a u- for now.

http://espn.go.com/blog/kansas-city-...very-selection

Adam Teicher breaks down the 2016 Kansas City Chiefs draft class.


Round 2, Pick No. 37: Chris Jones, DT, Mississippi State | Highlights

My take: The Chiefs could be losing defensive lineman Dontari Poe to free agency after next season. The addition of Jones gives the Chiefs insurance. In the meantime, the 6-foot-6, 308-pound Jones gives the Chiefs another big, capable player to plug into their defensive line rotation. The Chiefs can use Jones in a rotation that includes Poe, Allen Bailey and Jaye Howard. Jones probably won’t be a starter as a rookie but could get a lot of snaps and help keep the veteran defensive linemen fresh. The Chiefs have given their starting lineman, particularly Poe, a lot of snaps in recent seasons.

Not lacking for confidence: Asked for a scouting report on himself after being drafted by the Chiefs, Jones said, “A very dominant player. Has the ability to be a Pro Bowler. Needs to work on a few things. Could be one of the best of all time. It’s up to him." Asked what he needs to work on, Jones said, “I feel like there’s always something to get better at. When you stop getting better at something, you start losing concentration and ... you think you’re too good. So I’m always looking for ways to get better as a player and an individual."

Basketball background helps: Jones was a basketball player in high school in Houston, Mississippi. He says playing basketball helped his development as a football player. “It kind of gave me that lanky, pass-rushing mobility. In basketball, you’ve got to be (quick). I was a heck of a basketball player, too. Let me state that.’’

Round 3, Pick No. 59: KeiVarae Russell, CB, Notre Dame

My take: The Chiefs saw Russell as their last chance to get a cornerback capable of helping right away. The 5-11, 190-pound Russell was a three-year starter at Notre Dame. He’ll compete for playing time behind the starters, Marcus Peters and Phillip Gaines, and third cornerback Steven Nelson.

College career interrupted: After starting his first two seasons at Notre Dame, Russell missed all of the 2014 season. He was dismissed from the university after an academic scandal. But he was reinstated the following year and returned to play last season. His season ended a couple of games early because of a broken leg, but coach Andy Reid said Russell should be ready and available when the Chiefs start offseason practice in May.

Emotional moment: Russell broke down in tears when answering questions from Kansas City area reporters shortly after he was drafted. “Bear with me,’’ Russell said. “My mom struggled, never had much. It’s just a way out, a way out for my family. It’s a way to make my family smile, too. I was the first one to graduate high school, first one to go to college. I’ll be the first one to get my degree when I get it. This is something big. That’s why it’s so special. [Being drafted] is changing my circumstances."

Round 4, Pick No. 105: Parker Ehinger, G, Cincinnati | Highlights

My take: The Chiefs needed more depth at guard, where Laurent Duvernay-Tardif and Zach Fulton are the likely starters. Backup candidates are few, so Ehinger makes sense in that regard. He was a left tackle in college, and although he projects as a guard with the Chiefs, Ehinger could play right tackle if the need ever arises. Duvernay-Tardif and Fulton aren’t solid as the projected starters, so Ehinger could win a spot with a strong showing in offseason practice and training camp.

Round 4, Pick No. 106: Eric Murray, CB, Minnesota | Highlights

My take: The Chiefs had no position as thin as cornerback heading into the draft and they’re throwing numbers at the spot with the selection of Murray. He is the second corner drafted by the Chiefs, following Notre Dame’s KeiVarae Russell in the third round. Murray, a three-year starter, will be given a chance to compete for playing time as a rookie. Most likely, that playing time would come as a spare cornerback in passing situations.

Round 4, Pick No. 126: Demarcus Robinson, WR, Florida | Highlights

My take: Robinson can be viewed as a risky pick. He was suspended numerous times in college and acknowledged at the scouting combine in February he went through rehab for drug abuse when he was a freshman. But Robinson has enough talent that he can help the Chiefs. He will compete for playing time with a group of receivers that includes Chris Conley and Albert Wilson. At 6-foot-1 and 204 pounds, Robinson has the size teams like in wide receivers.

Round 5, Pick No. 162: Kevin Hogan, QB, Stanford | Highlights

My take: Hogan’s addition means the Chiefs will eventually be unloading one of their other developmental quarterbacks, Tyler Bray or Aaron Murray. Hogan started 46 games in college with a 36-10 record, so he has a lot of experience and has been a winner. He’ll most likely spend his rookie season as the third-string quarterback behind starter Alex Smith and the loser of the Murray-Bray roster battle.

Round 5, Pick No. 165: Tyreek Hill, WR, West Alabama | Highlights

My take: Hill has dynamic return skills. Chiefs scout Ryne Nutt said special teams coach Dave Toub compared Hill to Devin Hester. But Hill pleaded guilty last year to punching and choking his pregnant girlfriend in December 2014. He was given three years of probation. He was thrown off the team at Oklahoma State after the incident and transferred to West Alabama.

“We’ve done the research on it,’’ Nutt said. “From that, I think, (general manager John Dorsey) was comfortable enough to take the kid.

“I’ve talked with the Oklahoma (State) staff and I’ve talked with the West Alabama staff. They all like the kid. He made a mistake. I’m not going to go into the details of it but the human being is somebody they like. You talk to the kid and he’s probably more than sorry it happened. But he’s a good person. He means well.’’

Round 6, Pick No. 178: D.J. White, CB, Georgia Tech | Highlights

My take: Give the Chiefs credit for trying to address their numbers at cornerback. White is the third cornerback they’ve drafted, following KeiVarae Russell of Notre Dame in the third round and Eric Murray of Minnesota in the fourth. Unless they’re hit by a rash of injuries or unexpectedly part with a veteran, the Chiefs won’t be able to keep them all.

Round 6, Pick No. 203: Dadi Nicolas, DE, Virginia Tech | Highlights

My take: Nicolas is about 235 pounds, so he’s far too light to play defensive end and he’ll even have to add some weight to become an effective outside linebacker. He has some skills as a pass rusher but it’s a stretch to think the Chiefs will benefit from those skills anytime soon. He looks like he’s a practice squad candidate at best as a rookie.

Teicher's view on our draft.

This draft is one big fat ****ing question mark. I'm about as lost as ever this year lol.

I wasn't talking about the team. Was talking about some folks here still being obsessed with drafting o-line. I used to have a running joke about how every first round pick needed to be an o-lineman. They'd start at right tackle and then move left a spot left every season. A constant recycling line of first round picks! Only then could we be dominate (cp spelling...)

I like Jah as a swing tackle but I'm not looking forward to him starting all year.

Obviously it's not solely his fault, but it's been a huge problem. Marcus Cooper and Jamel Fleming didn't even get on the field at CB at the end of the season.
Steven Nelson took their job and now Fleming has moved to safety.

It was (and has been) one of the biggest problems on this team and Dorsey drafting FOUR CB's in the top 3 rounds the last 2 years shows that he knew this and had to fix it.

Why would he start at all, much less start all year?

Because he has guard flexibility and he's almost certainly favored at LG over Fulton and Ehinger.

A. No pole vaulters selected.

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We got what we needed so we will see. I have to admit the WR from Florida may be a stud.