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Mr_Tomahawk 05-12-2016 09:46 AM

Dwight Freeney
 
This board is slooooow....

Would you sign at a vet minimum to serve as depth until Houston gets back?

He is begging for work and says he will go anywhere...

BossChief 05-12-2016 09:48 AM

I'd sign him just to work with Dee Ford on trying to develop a spin move.

BlackHelicopters 05-12-2016 09:49 AM

Vet minimum? Yes

WhawhaWhat 05-12-2016 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12227717)
I'd sign him just to work with Dee Ford on trying to develop a spin move.

He has a spin move, but it's just in the wrong direction.

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Mr. Laz 05-12-2016 09:57 AM

We need to sign somebody.

Unless Stainer err Staylor really does have a direct line to God and knows that Houston is going to be 100% Day 1.

Bowser 05-12-2016 10:00 AM

For a bare bones vet deal with no bonus? Probably, just until Houston is firing on all cylinders again.

RealSNR 05-12-2016 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12227732)
We need to sign somebody.

Unless Stainer err Staylor really does have a direct line to God and knows that Houston is going to be 100% Day 1.

Andy Reid said Houston is ahead of schedule. He's going to play this year and more than likely he'll be ready for Week 1.

I don't think the Chiefs need to make any drastic moves like signing Dwight Freeney just for the sake of saying, "Well, we wanted to be prepared for Houston not being around for a couple weeks." If they do that, I can easily see Freeney stinking up the joint and having fans lambast Dorsey for bringing him aboard.

Mr. Laz 05-12-2016 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12227743)
Andy Reid said Houston is ahead of schedule. He's going to play this year and more than likely he'll be ready for Week 1.

I don't think the Chiefs need to make any drastic moves like signing Dwight Freeney just for the sake of saying, "Well, we wanted to be prepared for Houston not being around for a couple weeks." If they do that, I can easily see Freeney stinking up the joint and having fans lambast Dorsey for bringing him aboard.

Didn't say it should be Freeney

I figure that Houston would play this year, it's just a matter of WHEN Houston is 100%. I really don't want to lose 2/3 games waiting if we can sign a cheap vet to help us short term.

Do you trust Ford even in the short term?

notorious 05-12-2016 10:07 AM

No to one-dimensional, broke-dick, has-beens.

TEX 05-12-2016 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 12227719)
Vet minimum? Yes

Agreed.

Mr. Laz 05-12-2016 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 12227749)
No to one-dimensional, broke-dick, has-beens.

We need that one dimension for a few games until Houston comes back.

RealSNR 05-12-2016 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12227748)
Didn't say it should be Freeney

I figure that Houston would play this year, it's just a matter of WHEN Houston is 100%. I really don't want to lose 2/3 games waiting if we can sign a cheap vet to help us short term.

Do you trust Ford even in the short term?

We won a string of games at the end of last year with Ford as one of the starting OLBs. Even if he doesn't improve one bit this year, there's no reason why we can't do the same against the scheduled opponents we have this year at the beginning of the season.

This is entirely about finding a guy to replace Hali should the need arise due to injury or rotation in the game. Yeah, that's pretty important, but I don't think an equally washed up vet like Freeney is the answer. I'd rather just roll with Zombo/Massaquoi and take the mulligan.

mcaj22 05-12-2016 10:14 AM

not saying we should sign him but he was the only pass rusher the Cardinals had in the playoffs worth a shit. Surprised he cant find work hes still a capable 3rd down rush specialist 8 sacks in 11 games isnt bad for a part time player

jspchief 05-12-2016 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12227717)
I'd sign him just to work with Dee Ford on trying to develop a spin move.

Exactly my thought when I saw this thread. Hire him to teach Ford technique.

Titty Meat 05-12-2016 10:19 AM

Don't think we need him between Ford/Hali/Nichols those guys could combine for 12 sacks well be ok.

DaneMcCloud 05-12-2016 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay (Post 12227772)
Don't think we need him between Ford/Hali/Nichols those guys could combine for 12 sacks well be ok.

There is almost no way that Dadi Nicolas, at 235 pounds, is going to be an edge pass rusher this season and he's no lock to even make the 53.

Furthermore, it would be nearly impossible for Nicolas to set the edge at 235 pounds. Ford's had issues at 245.

philfree 05-12-2016 10:25 AM

The one thing this defense can't afford to lose is it's pass rush. Our young CBs will need all the help they can get up front. Doesn't have to be Freeney but we need to make sure we have the depth in case Houston and company become injured. Ford has his back issues and didn't he have a concussion last year. Then there's Hali's knees and age. A guy like Freeney would be good to have around.

ChiefAshhole1056 05-12-2016 10:31 AM

For the sake of preserving Tamba and giving some insurance in case Houston doesn't recover as quickly as planned, absolutely.

RunKC 05-12-2016 10:32 AM

This is exactly why we drafted Dee Ford. He's had 2 years to learn from 2 of the best at the position and get stronger.

it's time to sink or swim

alpha_omega 05-12-2016 10:35 AM

Hadn't heard him say he would go "anywhere", but the article from PFT has that headline...then inside the article it says something different. Terrible headline Darin Gantt and PFT!

Dwight Freeney, begging for work, admits he’ll go “anywhere”


Longtime NFL pass-rusher Dwight Freeney was able to use ESPN for some free advertising, however.
Via Darren Urban of the Cardinals’ team website, Freeney said he’d love to return to Arizona, but made it clear he wanted to sign for anyone.

“But if it doesn’t work out here, it could be anywhere,” Freeney said. “It just depends. It has to be a winning team. I’m used to winning.”
The 36-year-old Freeney showed he still has some gas left in the tank, with 8.0 sacks in 11 games for the Cardinals last year. He said there was “some interest” from other teams, but the fact he was dragging his bait around on national television indicates that interest has yet to manifest itself into a firm offer.

The interesting part might have been his admission that he wanted to go to training camp with a team, rather than just parachute in late like he did last season.
“I know my body loved [signing late], but the anxiety mentally wasn’t good,” Freeney said. “So hopefully I can get signed before then.”
That makes it sound almost desperate, but Freeney’s been around the league long enough to know he doesn’t have long left, so the idea he wants to savor his final moments in the league.


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...l-go-anywhere/

Simply Red 05-12-2016 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12227743)
Andy Reid said Houston is ahead of schedule. He's going to play this year and more than likely he'll be ready for Week 1.



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hometeam 05-12-2016 10:41 AM

uh no

Mr. Laz 05-12-2016 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philfree (Post 12227779)
The one thing this defense can't afford to lose is it's pass rush. Our young CBs will need all the help they can get up front. Doesn't have to be Freeney but we need to make sure we have the depth in case Houston and company become injured. Ford has his back issues and didn't he have a concussion last year. Then there's Hali's knees and age. A guy like Freeney would be good to have around.

this

Mr. Laz 05-12-2016 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12227792)
This is exactly why we drafted Dee Ford. He's had 2 years to learn from 2 of the best at the position and get stronger.

it's time to sink or swim

If Ford sinks i don't want the team's season to sink with him.

DaneMcCloud 05-12-2016 10:54 AM

If Freeney signed a Vet Min contract with some incentives, I'd be all for it.

At worst, he doesn't get much playing time and doesn't contribute in 2016.

At best, the Chiefs get another situational pass rusher that still a little left in the tank, as evidenced by 8 sacks in 11 games last year.

With a Vet Min contract, he won't even count against the cap since only the Top 51 are counted until September.

Bowser 05-12-2016 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12227826)
If Freeney signed a Vet Min contract with some incentives, I'd be all for it.

At worst, he doesn't get much playing time and doesn't contribute in 2016.

At best, the Chiefs get another situational pass rusher that still a little left in the tank, as evidenced by 8 sacks in 11 games last year.

With a Vet Min contract, he won't even count against the cap since only the Top 51 are counted until September.

Done. Get on it, Dorsey.

RunKC 05-12-2016 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12227819)
If Ford sinks i don't want the team's season to sink with him.

Houston will be back and Tamba had his knee scoped and is working on making his knees stronger (per his video from NFLN last night).

Chris Jones is gonna help a lot IMO. He has solid strength, athleticism and pass rush moves to go with his massive size to help us on obvious passing downs.

Out DL is gonna generate a lot of pressure just like it did last year.

Beef Supreme 05-12-2016 11:08 AM

He said he would go anywhere. He didn't say he would go anywhere for vet minimum. That is likely why he hasn't gone anywhere.

Bowser 05-12-2016 11:14 AM

Honestly, the first thing I thought of was he was asking Belichick to bring him in.

Mother****erJones 05-12-2016 11:21 AM

Vet minimum with incentives, sure I would. More pass rushers the better.

pugsnotdrugs19 05-12-2016 11:26 AM

Sutton has got to do a good job of rotating bodies up front.

Rotate the 4 beasts in the middle (Poe, Bailey, Howard, Jones) series to series, down to down.

Rotate your edge rushers often, especially early in the year. Even if Houston is back week 1, he shouldn't be handed a full work load, as we will need him at full go for almost every snap come playoff time. Hali, Ford and whoever else shows pass rush ability need to get reps on the other side and for Houston early in the year.

If that group is as fresh as they can be come January, it could really make all the difference.

Bwana 05-12-2016 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12227826)
If Freeney signed a Vet Min contract with some incentives, I'd be all for it.

At worst, he doesn't get much playing time and doesn't contribute in 2016.

At best, the Chiefs get another situational pass rusher that still a little left in the tank, as evidenced by 8 sacks in 11 games last year.

With a Vet Min contract, he won't even count against the cap since only the Top 51 are counted until September.

That's about how I feel about it.

Simply Red 05-12-2016 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 12227901)
That's about how I feel about it.

this.

Pasta Little Brioni 05-12-2016 04:20 PM

Ah yes when you have a done old fart begging for a job, you just HAVE to jump on it

LoneWolf 05-12-2016 04:35 PM

Wasn't Jonathan Massaquoi signed to add a veteran presence to the OLB position and play rotational snaps as needed?

DaneMcCloud 05-12-2016 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 12228307)
Wasn't Jonathan Massaquoi signed to add a veteran presence to the OLB position and play rotational snaps as needed?

Yes but he's just Dezmon Moses Part II

Mother****erJones 05-12-2016 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12228312)
Yes but he's just Dezmon Moses Part II

I'm hoping more like Husain Abdullah part 2 in that he somehow turns into a productive sign for us.

tecumseh 05-12-2016 05:33 PM

Consensus is wisdom. Sign to Vet min with incentives.

rtmike 05-12-2016 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 12227853)
Honestly, the first thing I thought of was he was asking Belichick to bring him in.

He must want more than the vet minimum otherwise he's got Patriots written all over him. :hmmm:

DaneMcCloud 05-12-2016 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 12228314)
I'm hoping more like Husain Abdullah part 2 in that he somehow turns into a productive sign for us.

The difference is that Abdullah was an effective player before his concussion, which led him to skip a season and travel to Mecca.

Massaquoi has bounced around and has only 6 career sacks in 4 seasons.

I'm not saying that he couldn't have a breakthrough but I don't expect it.

thabear04 05-12-2016 07:30 PM

**** yeah bring him in.

Easy 6 05-12-2016 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 12227766)
not saying we should sign him but he was the only pass rusher the Cardinals had in the playoffs worth a shit. Surprised he cant find work hes still a capable 3rd down rush specialist 8 sacks in 11 games isnt bad for a part time player

8 sacks in 11 games is impressive in my book, those numbers kinda shocked me for this geezer... he obviously has something left and is passionate enough about football to sign for peanuts just to keep playing

Choose his spots well and he can still get it done, I can see no possible negatives here

Make it so, Dorsey

Mr. Laz 05-13-2016 06:29 PM

Dwight Freeney Open to Arizona Cardinals Return Provided it Happens Quickly
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36-year-old veteran pass rusher Dwight Freeney isn’t quite ready to step away from the NFL and is open to an Arizona Cardinals return, but above all else, he’d like it to happen quickly.

Appearing on ESPN’s SportsCenter on Thursday, Freeney said while his body appreciates the downtime, his mind certainly does not. And after dealing with the career uncertainty a season ago, he’d like to be signed early enough to participate in training camp.
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“I know my body loved it, but the anxiety mentally wasn’t good,” Freeny said on ESPN. “So, hopefully, I can get signed before that.”


In a perfect world, Freeney says he’s reunite with the Arizona Cardinals, but that desire won’t preclude him from latching on elsewhere. With only a little gas left in the tank, it’s going to be first come, first serve for the veteran with an emphasis on winning.

“Arizona would be a great team. Obviously, I have some ties there,” said Freeney, who is currently in Arizona. “But if it doesn’t work out here, it could be anywhere. It just depends. It has to be a winning team. I’m used to winning. It’s not great to be a part of a losing organization.”

Despite his age and signing late last season, the seven-time Pro Bowler proved he could still be used as a quality situational pass rusher. He recorded a team-high eight sacks in only 11 games for the Cardinals in 2015, finishing the season as Pro Football Focus’ sixth-ranked 3-4 outside linebacker.

Eleazar 05-13-2016 06:44 PM

What is he, broke? Just retire.

milkman 05-14-2016 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 12229912)
What is he, broke? Just retire.

If you love your job and are still capable of performing at a reasonably high level, why would you retire?

Rausch 05-14-2016 08:08 AM

If we could make the money work I'd definitely sign him for 1 year...

SAUTO 05-14-2016 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12230336)
If you love your job and are still capable of performing at a reasonably high level, why would you retire?

Plus you get paid well , travel the country, probably **** any time you want, they probably feed you pretty well too.

Mother****erJones 05-14-2016 09:26 AM

I honestly would love for Freeney to work with Ford on his spin move. Ford used it great once last year and made a nice play. He's not going to overpower anymore, so I'd like to see him utilize it more.

Mother****erJones 05-14-2016 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12228542)
The difference is that Abdullah was an effective player before his concussion, which led him to skip a season and travel to Mecca.

Massaquoi has bounced around and has only 6 career sacks in 4 seasons.

I'm not saying that he couldn't have a breakthrough but I don't expect it.

Oh I know that difference was just stating my hope :D


I remember signing Abdullah and watching some of his highlights and thinking Dorsey stole him.

Pasta Little Brioni 05-14-2016 09:31 AM

He has like a zero percent chance of signing with KC, you realize that right???

RunKC 10-10-2016 01:58 PM

3 sacks this year so far...a sack in 3 consecutive games.

We whiffed on this one. Ouch

Couch-Potato 10-10-2016 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12476019)
3 sacks this year so far...a sack in 3 consecutive games.

We whiffed on this one. Ouch


Us and every other team in the league

Sorter 10-10-2016 06:40 PM

This is Shaun Phillips all over again.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-11-2016 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 12230402)
He has like a zero percent chance of signing with KC, you realize that right???

Run, this was the important part

OctoberFart 10-11-2016 08:57 AM

KC don't need him. You guys got DeeDee Ford. I mean he lead the league in pressures 2015 if I cherry pick the timeframe a certain way.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-11-2016 09:02 AM

Another prediction...You will disappear for awhile starting around 645 central time Sunday Fart

RunKC 10-11-2016 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OctoberFart (Post 12477399)
KC don't need him. You guys got DeeDee Ford. I mean he lead the league in pressures 2015 if I cherry pick the timeframe a certain way.

More sacks than Mack so far

OctoberFart 10-11-2016 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12477440)
More sacks than Mack so far

Are you saying he is a better player?

OctoberFart 10-11-2016 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 12477409)
Another prediction...You will disappear for awhile starting around 645 central time Sunday Fart

I've been here for years and haven't disappeared. The only question is will the posters honor their bets and leave this place for the year per our bet? I'm guessing they will welch.

Mr. Laz 10-11-2016 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12227836)
Houston will be back and Tamba had his knee scoped and is working on making his knees stronger (per his video from NFLN last night).

Chris Jones is gonna help a lot IMO. He has solid strength, athleticism and pass rush moves to go with his massive size to help us on obvious passing downs.

Out DL is gonna generate a lot of pressure just like it did last year.

umm ... no

Mr. Laz 10-11-2016 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12227743)
Andy Reid said Houston is ahead of schedule. He's going to play this year and more than likely he'll be ready for Week 1.

I don't think the Chiefs need to make any drastic moves like signing Dwight Freeney just for the sake of saying, "Well, we wanted to be prepared for Houston not being around for a couple weeks." If they do that, I can easily see Freeney stinking up the joint and having fans lambast Dorsey for bringing him aboard.

oops

Pasta Little Brioni 10-11-2016 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OctoberFart (Post 12477641)
I've been here for years and haven't disappeared. The only question is will the posters honor their bets and leave this place for the year per our bet? I'm guessing they will welch.

The only cockbag on this board to do that is a bronco fan


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