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staylor26 06-22-2016 03:31 PM

Chris Conley #2 WR going into Training Camp
 
Haven't seen this reported yet, which is strange.

@TerezPaylor What's the depth chart order looking like as we enter TC behind Maclin?
7:47 PM - 17 Jun 2016 Retweets 1 1 like


Terez answered:

"Conley is the No. 2 and Albert Wilson is the slot, but Streater, Hill and Thomas all worked in with the first team during OTAs."

I prefer Conley on the outside with Wilson/Streater in the slot like many others on here, so this was good news.

Here is the rest of Terez's mailbag: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...#storylink=cpy

The Franchise 06-22-2016 03:32 PM

Maclin, Conley and Streater.

O.city 06-22-2016 03:42 PM

Maclin wilson Streater

Cut conley

jspchief 06-22-2016 03:51 PM

Is Mike Williams on the team?

DaneMcCloud 06-22-2016 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 12286098)
Is Mike Williams on the team?

He hasn't participated due to injury

RunKC 06-22-2016 04:17 PM

A high draft pick made by the current regime that is early in his career is always going to get every opportunity to win the job.

Especially when he's in the 99th percentile for speed and vertical ability.

Easy 6 06-22-2016 04:27 PM

I sincerely hope he shows the necessary growth to keep that spot, we need his size and leaping ability out there

Chief Roundup 06-22-2016 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12286085)
Maclin wilson Streater

Cut conley

:spock:

Hammock Parties 06-22-2016 04:34 PM

the force is with you, young jedi

TimBone 06-22-2016 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12286085)
Maclin wilson Streater

Cut conley

C'mon.

Mr. Laz 06-22-2016 05:01 PM

Conley will get every chance to win the #2 spot.

mdchiefsfan 06-22-2016 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 12286136)
:spock:

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 12286156)
C'mon.

You all just got O .city'd... At least I hope!

okiedokieokoye 06-22-2016 05:19 PM

Is anyone else worried about Rod Streater? These players on 1 year "prove it" deals can sometimes blow up.

O.city 06-22-2016 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 12286161)
You all just got O .city'd... At least I hope!

:drool::D:hmmm:ROFL

Easy 6 06-22-2016 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by okiedokieokoye (Post 12286165)
Is anyone else worried about Rod Streater? These players on 1 year "prove it" deals can sometimes blow up.

I'm not really "worried" since he had a lot to prove coming in... low expectations

Between the backs, tight ends, and what receivers we do have that have shown continued development... we can still field a reasonably dynamic offense without him, or a guy like Williams

DaneMcCloud 06-22-2016 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12286235)
I'm not really "worried" since he had a lot to prove coming in... low expectations

His cap hit is $4.8 million dollars, making him the second highest paid wide receiver on the Chiefs roster.

Expectations should be very high.

RunKC 06-22-2016 06:18 PM

I thought Streaters salary was listed as $4.8 million on overthecap.com bc it was projected as him meeting the metrics of his contract?

staylor26 06-22-2016 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12286253)
I thought Streaters salary was listed as $4.8 million on overthecap.com bc it was projected as him meeting the metrics of his contract?

I believe you are correct.

Easy 6 06-22-2016 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12286246)
His cap hit is $4.8 million dollars, making him the second highest paid wide receiver on the Chiefs roster.

Expectations should be very high.

Well, when you put it like that... good point, if he disappoints or outright fails that would certainly have a cap impact

But as a football team, this year... Streater panning out is a blessing, not an absolute necessity IMO

DaneMcCloud 06-22-2016 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12286339)
Well, when you put it like that... good point, if he disappoints or outright fails that would certainly have a cap impact

But as a football team, this year... Streater panning out is a blessing, not an absolute necessity IMO

I disagree. It's an absolute necessity to take the pressure of of Maclin and Kelce.

Conley's unproven, as is the rest of the WR corp.

It's Streater's job to put up at least 750 yards and 5 TD's.

Chiefshrink 06-22-2016 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12286256)
I believe you are correct.

How many WRs do we roster in general ?

staylor26 06-22-2016 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 12286623)
How many WRs do we roster in general ?

Most likely 6.

Simply Red 06-22-2016 10:39 PM

I need him to have a good season after last year propping him up.

WhiteWhale 06-22-2016 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12286360)
I disagree. It's an absolute necessity to take the pressure of of Maclin and Kelce.

Conley's unproven, as is the rest of the WR corp.

It's Streater's job to put up at least 750 yards and 5 TD's.

Yeah, well, it was Matt Flynn's job to lead the Seahawks in 2012.

You're right that he needs to produce for his own sake. As a fan, as long as we get the production from someone he can hit the dusty trail when the season's over if he's not gonna contribute it.

SeeingRed 06-22-2016 11:51 PM

Chris Conley will be coming into the starting line up...and the force will be with him

DaneMcCloud 06-23-2016 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 12286660)
Yeah, well, it was Matt Flynn's job to lead the Seahawks in 2012.

You're right that he needs to produce for his own sake. As a fan, as long as we get the production from someone he can hit the dusty trail when the season's over if he's not gonna contribute it.

This post is complete shit.

The Chiefs didn't sign Streater to be their #1 wide receiver.

Also, he signed a one year deal. If he puts up great numbers, he'll be in demand next year for every team looking for a solid #2.

If he doesn't contribute, it's a one year deal and he won't return.

Duh.

ChiefGator 06-23-2016 07:51 AM

Great.. like Wilson in the slot better than on the outside.

Of course, we might be loading it up on TE's as well, in which case Wilson would rarely see the field.

If Conley can actually WIN the #2 spot, I think that bodes well for our WR core.

ChiefGator 06-23-2016 07:55 AM

The signing bonus for Streater was only 10k; most of the rest is salary and incentives.

There is a chance he doesn't make it out of training camp if Conley or some of the other newcomers looks good.

Oh, and here is the salary information.

"Rod Streater signed a 1 year, $810,000 contract with the Kansas City Chiefs, including a $10,000 signing bonus, $110,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $810,000. In 2016, Streater will earn a base salary of $760,000, a signing bonus of $10,000, a workout bonus of $40,000 and a incentive bonus of $4,000,000. Streater has a cap hit of $4,810,000 while his dead money value is $110,000."

RunKC 06-23-2016 08:03 AM

I hope Conley breaks out bc he's cheap for a few more years. its a big upgrade that him or Conley will start outside bc Wilson isn't cut out to be in that role.

I wonder if Hill could take reps away from Wilson? From reports, Hill has been a natural at WR unlike DAT.

Mr. Laz 06-23-2016 10:42 AM

If the Chiefs' offense takes the next step is will be because improvement at the WR position.

CB is the key position on defense, we need someone to step up and everyone to stay healthy.

Everywhere else we are pretty stable.

Stryker 06-23-2016 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12286692)
This post is complete shit.

The Chiefs didn't sign Streater to be their #1 wide receiver.

Also, he signed a one year deal. If he puts up great numbers, he'll be in demand next year for every team looking for a solid #2.

If he doesn't contribute, it's a one year deal and he won't return.

Duh.

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

WhiteWhale 06-23-2016 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12286692)
This post is complete shit.

The Chiefs didn't sign Streater to be their #1 wide receiver.

Also, he signed a one year deal. If he puts up great numbers, he'll be in demand next year for every team looking for a solid #2.

If he doesn't contribute, it's a one year deal and he won't return.

Duh.

Nobody implied anything you interpreted.

Good job arguing with ghosts.

SAUTO 06-23-2016 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 12287152)
Nobody implied anything you interpreted.

Good job arguing with ghosts.

I took your post the exact way he did, ftr.

Mr_Tomahawk 06-23-2016 02:37 PM

That is interesting.

A few days ago, TJ was on 810 and said that the most shocking thing about OTA's was how Conley did nothing...he wasn't bad, but he wasn't good. He was JAG.

DaneMcCloud 06-23-2016 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 12287152)
Nobody implied anything you interpreted.

Good job arguing with ghosts.

I think you need to re-read your post

Otter 06-23-2016 03:49 PM

I have high hopes for this lad. Go gettem' kid!

Direckshun 06-23-2016 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 12287241)
That is interesting.

A few days ago, TJ was on 810 and said that the most shocking thing about OTA's was how Conley did nothing...he wasn't bad, but he wasn't good. He was JAG.

Well he's not exactly competing against murderer's row.

staylor26 06-23-2016 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 12287241)
That is interesting.

A few days ago, TJ was on 810 and said that the most shocking thing about OTA's was how Conley did nothing...he wasn't bad, but he wasn't good. He was JAG.

TJ's a ****ing idiot, so I would take what he says with a grain of salt.

Rain Man 06-23-2016 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefGator (Post 12286781)
The signing bonus for Streater was only 10k; most of the rest is salary and incentives.

There is a chance he doesn't make it out of training camp if Conley or some of the other newcomers looks good.

Oh, and here is the salary information.

"Rod Streater signed a 1 year, $810,000 contract with the Kansas City Chiefs, including a $10,000 signing bonus, $110,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $810,000. In 2016, Streater will earn a base salary of $760,000, a signing bonus of $10,000, a workout bonus of $40,000 and a incentive bonus of $4,000,000. Streater has a cap hit of $4,810,000 while his dead money value is $110,000."

What the heck is that incentive bonus? Now THAT's an incentive.

Ming the Merciless 06-23-2016 04:18 PM

Hrmm...

DaneMcCloud 06-23-2016 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 12287395)
What the heck is that incentive bonus? Now THAT's an incentive.

It means that if he meets all of the incentives in the contract, which usually includes things like a minimum amount of yardage, TD's, games played, Pro Bowl, All Pro and Super Bowl, he'll earn $4 million dollars.

Rain Man 06-23-2016 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12287403)
It means that if he meets all of the incentives in the contract, which usually includes things like a minimum amount of yardage, TD's, games played, Pro Bowl, All Pro and Super Bowl, he'll earn $4 million dollars.

Well, I hope he gets it.

Easy 6 06-23-2016 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12286360)
I disagree. It's an absolute necessity to take the pressure of of Maclin and Kelce.

Conley's unproven, as is the rest of the WR corp.

It's Streater's job to put up at least 750 yards and 5 TD's.

We still have guys like Brown, Robinson, Hill and Mathews hanging around, to go along with the top three in Maclin, Conley and Wilson... dude c'mon, if Streater tanks someone will step up to one degree or another

Or, Reid will just scheme heavier with the backs and tight ends to help pick up the slack

Streater was a non-entity his last year with the raiders, theres no real reason to expect too much... they took another gamble on a youngish vet like they've done multiple times since day one and gave him an incentive laden contract

Its not something I feel a great need to argue about, simply stating my belief that if he fails, there is enough talent on hand to minimize his failure

DaneMcCloud 06-23-2016 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12287419)
We still have guys like Brown, Robinson, Hill and Mathews hanging around

None of whom have had any NFL experience. Brown was a 7th, Robinson a 4th, Hill a 5th and Mathews undrafted.

That doesn't exactly inspire confidence in the position.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12287419)
to go along with the top three in Maclin, Conley and Wilson... dude c'mon, if Streater tanks someone will step up to one degree or another

Maclin's the only reliable receiver from that group. Look at the offense in the Patriots playoff game as proof. Once Maclin's off the field, the offense became ineffective.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12287419)
Streater was a non-entity his last year with the raiders, theres no real reason to expect too much...

Rod Streater had 1,452 yards and 7 TD's his first two seasons in the league. He was injured in 2014 and only appeared in 3 games. He was a healthy scratch in 2015 due to a new coaching staff and scheme.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12287419)
Its not something I feel a great need to argue about, simply stating my belief that if he fails, there is enough talent on hand to minimize his failure

Talent? Where? I was a bigger fan of Brown than Avant last year but the fact remains that he's a longshot to make the roster. Conley's proven nothing, Wilson is small and doesn't sell out for the football. Expecting a 4th or 5th rounder to step into a starting role to provide 750+ yards is unrealistic, IMO.

The Chiefs will need a healthy Rod Streater if they're to make progress in 2016.

Meatloaf 06-23-2016 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12287446)
None of whom have had any NFL experience. Brown was a 7th, Robinson a 4th, Hill a 5th and Mathews undrafted.

That doesn't exactly inspire confidence in the position.



Maclin's the only reliable receiver from that group. Look at the offense in the Patriots playoff game as proof. Once Maclin's off the field, the offense became ineffective.



Rod Streater had 1,452 yards and 7 TD's his first two seasons in the league. He was injured in 2014 and only appeared in 3 games. He was a healthy scratch in 2015 due to a new coaching staff and scheme.



Talent? Where? I was a bigger fan of Brown than Avant last year but the fact remains that he's a longshot to make the roster. Conley's proven nothing, Wilson is small and doesn't sell out for the football. Expecting a 4th or 5th rounder to step into a starting role to provide 750+ yards is unrealistic, IMO.

The Chiefs will need a healthy Rod Streater if they're to make progress in 2016.

Dane, though I generally agree with your take here, my hope is that Robinson has much more talent than a "normal" 4th rounder. I believe off-the-field contributed to his slide in the draft as most of the write-ups I've seen on Robinson suggest that he is essentially as talented of a receiver as pretty much anyone in the draft. I have high hopes for this kid, but until we see him with pads and pro competition, it's just a hope.

Also, many CPers have suggested, as you did, that Wilson doesn't sell out for the football. You all may be correct, but I'm hoping that what we saw was him guarding his hammy's so as not to induce a full-fledged pull. To me, he looked more like he was favoring his hammy rather than being timid about getting the rock.

Anyway, just a couple of thoughts as we endure what seems like a very loooooong off season.

Chiefshrink 06-23-2016 05:29 PM

By mid-season or later barring no injuries here is what I would like to see.

1.Maclin
2.Williams
3.Streater
4.Conley
5.Robinson
6.Hill - a muscular Devon Hester type with more speed that will not only be able to take a hit but break tackles as well on STs and will be awesome in the slot.

PS - Mitch Matthews

Wilson gets released. Guy is so overrated and when he didn't lay out last year for that one long pass it said everything IMHO.

DAT released. Kid is soft. Nuff said.

DaneMcCloud 06-23-2016 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meatloaf (Post 12287477)
Dane, though I generally agree with your take here, my hope is that Robinson has much more talent than a "normal" 4th rounder. I believe off-the-field contributed to his slide in the draft as most of the write-ups I've seen on Robinson suggest that he is essentially as talented of a receiver as pretty much anyone in the draft. I have high hopes for this kid, but until we see him with pads and pro competition, it's just a hope.

Also, many CPers have suggested, as you did, that Wilson doesn't sell out for the football. You all may be correct, but I'm hoping that what we saw was him guarding his hammy's so as not to induce a full-fledged pull. To me, he looked more like he was favoring his hammy rather than being timid about getting the rock.

Anyway, just a couple of thoughts as we endure what seems like a very loooooong off season.

It's well documented that young receivers have difficulty in Reid's offense. It's not as if Robinson, Hill, Brown, et al, were high first rounders like Maclin. These are guys that have less than a 50% chance to be playing football in three years.

It would nice if the Chiefs had a breakout rookie or second year player in 2016 but I do not expect it.


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