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Chief Roundup 07-25-2016 12:22 PM

Josh Gordon reiinstated conditionally
 
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/17...B&sf31712346=1

Cleveland Browns wide receiver Josh Gordon has been reinstated on a conditional basis from his indefinite suspension for multiple drug violations.

The NFL announced Gordon's reinstatement Monday, saying that he will be suspended for the first four games of the regular season.

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell wrote a letter to Gordon on Monday, saying he has "every belief that [Gordon] will make the right choices."

"As we discussed at our [July 19] meeting, as Commissioner, I want nothing more than to see you turn your circumstances around and succeed," Goodell wrote to Gordon. "Countless others including your agent, teammates and coaches, Mr. Haslam and the leadership of the organization, the Program professionals and Jim Brown also have pledged to provide you with every resource at their disposal. But as you acknowledged, ultimately, your future is your responsibility. I have every belief that you can make the right choices, but it will be up to you to do so."

Chief Roundup 07-25-2016 12:25 PM

Well I see i fat fingered the iiiii in reinstated.

O.city 07-25-2016 12:28 PM

Trade them a 4th for him?

dj56dt58 07-25-2016 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12333013)
Trade them a 4th for him?

Wait till he hits free agency then sign him for a bag of weed before trading him to Denver

RealSNR 07-25-2016 12:32 PM

Cleveland is the new Title Town

Bowser 07-25-2016 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj56dt58 (Post 12333016)
Wait till he hits free agency then sign him for a bag of weed before trading him to Denver

Might take a brick the way he burns through it.

Bwana 07-25-2016 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 12333019)
Might take a brick the way he burns through it.

http://libertycitys.com/wp-content/u...oshgordon3.jpg

thabear04 07-25-2016 12:34 PM

Guess that car dealership job is on hold until he mess up again.

BleedingRed 07-25-2016 01:11 PM

But, seriously RGIII can throw deep.... Could be good FF pickup

staylor26 07-25-2016 01:18 PM

RG3, Coleman, Gordon

Baylor Browns

ThaVirus 07-25-2016 01:24 PM

Aaaaaaand he's suspended again

Rain Man 07-25-2016 01:34 PM

I wonder how he's going to celebrate.

Chief Roundup 07-25-2016 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 12333157)
I wonder how he's going to celebrate.

K2 :shrug:

PutQuinnIn 07-25-2016 01:56 PM

Reid could fix him.

BossChief 07-25-2016 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12333013)
Trade them a 4th for him?

I'd even make it a conditional 4th that could go to a 3rd if he doesn't get suspended.

I think he would put our offense over the top if he can stay focused and motivated.

SAUTO 07-25-2016 04:25 PM

We should have traded for him over the off-season

ClevelandBronco 07-25-2016 04:29 PM

Manziel made Josh look rehabilitated.

Baby Lee 07-25-2016 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12333458)
We should have traded for him over the off-season

WTF? How long have I been asleep?

SAUTO 07-25-2016 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12333471)
WTF? How long have I been asleep?

Shit training camp is getting ready to start, and now they know he will be allowed to play.

Ok before today.

Nickhead 09-30-2016 04:48 AM

josh gordon enters rehab..
 
josh gordon enters rehab...
http://www.espn.com.au/american-foot...entering-rehab

(video removed because espn doesn't know how to code their shit properly )

Quote:
BEREA, Ohio -- Cleveland Browns wide receiver Josh Gordon says he is entering rehab, an announcement that comes less than a week before he was set to rejoin the team.

"After careful thought and deep consideration I've decided that I need to step away from pursuing my return to the Browns and my football career to enter an in-patient rehabilitation facility," Gordon said in a statement released through the Browns on Thursday. "This is the right decision for me and one that I hope will enable me to gain full control of my life and continue on a path to reach my full potential as a person. I appreciate the support of the NFL, NFLPA, the Browns, my teammates, my agent and the community through this extremely challenging process."
the question is: did he **** up and is hoping for leniency again by getting treatment? and he's done in cleveland

AND **** YOU ESPN FOR REDIRECTING ALL MY .COM LINKS VIA .AU!!! HAD TO **** UP A GOOD THING DIDN'T YA

Marcellus 09-30-2016 06:13 AM

He had how long to take care of this and decides to do it now?

WHat a dumb son of a bitch but we already knew that.

stumppy 09-30-2016 06:17 AM

Better this than not.

threebag 09-30-2016 06:22 AM

Too bad. He was fun to watch

Pasta Little Brioni 09-30-2016 07:00 AM

Would trade 2 firsts and my firstborn for him/CP

Couch-Potato 09-30-2016 07:06 AM

JUST LET THE KID SMOKE POT... Who honestly cares if he enjoys pot so much. Let him be, let him play, leave him alone already.

CoMoChief 09-30-2016 08:11 AM

Damn...I took a flyer on this guy with my 3rd to last pick in the draft hoping by miracle he'd come back and play..looked good in preseason.

Damn that would've been a steal.

I bet half of his mental troubles are that he just wants to GTFO of Cleveland. Who can blame him?

lcarus 09-30-2016 09:17 AM

Wait. Is he entering rehab for weed? Weed?!

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Chiefnj2 09-30-2016 09:30 AM

He probably smoked again and had another test, so figured out this might be the easiest way to avoid it, or avoid another harsh NFL penalty.

DaneMcCloud 09-30-2016 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12456792)
He had how long to take care of this and decides to do it now?

WHat a dumb son of a bitch but we already knew that.

He's been to rehab. Apparently, he has anxiety and self-confidence issues, which lead to marijuana use.

I don't think the guy is "partying" so much as he has Social Anxiety Disorder among other issues.

Eureka 09-30-2016 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 12456905)
Damn...I took a flyer on this guy with my 3rd to last pick in the draft hoping by miracle he'd come back and play..looked good in preseason.

Damn that would've been a steal.

I bet half of his mental troubles are that he just wants to GTFO of Cleveland. Who can blame him?

Should've picked up Pryor

Mr. Flopnuts 09-30-2016 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12457040)
He's been to rehab. Apparently, he has anxiety and self-confidence issues, which lead to marijuana use.

I don't think the guy is "partying" so much as he has Social Anxiety Disorder among other issues.

That's a mother****er to deal with in life. Particularly with his stature. Imagine everyone wanting to talk to you and you being scared to death to talk to them.

ScareCrowe 09-30-2016 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 12457005)
Wait. Is he entering rehab for weed? Weed?!

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LOL, first thing I thought of when I heard about this.

"You in here for some marijuana?!?!"

"I sucked dick for coke, you ever suck dick for marijuana?"

"ummm no"

"boo this man!!"

Marcellus 09-30-2016 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12457040)
He's been to rehab. Apparently, he has anxiety and self-confidence issues, which lead to marijuana use.

I don't think the guy is "partying" so much as he has Social Anxiety Disorder among other issues.

Whatever his root cause issues are, he has had plenty of time to deal with it prior to now when he was about to get reinstated and actually play again.

I know your opinion on pot and I personally think the fear of it is overrated.

That being said I believe just like some people can drink and not be an alcoholic and some people cant, some people cant recreationaly smoke weed. They have an addiction issue.

This is obviously the case here IMO.

eDave 09-30-2016 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12457328)
Whatever his root cause issues are, he has had plenty of time to deal with it prior to now when he was about to get reinstated and actually play again.

I know your opinion on pot and I personally think the fear of it is overrated.

That being said I believe just like some people can drink and not be an alcoholic and some people cant, some people cant recreationaly smoke weed. They have an addiction issue.

This is obviously the case here IMO.

Who said it's an addiction to pot? He simple can't smoke pot and play in the NFL. Which is sad if pot helps him. And I know it does.

Your first line is pretty insensitive.

DaneMcCloud 09-30-2016 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12457328)
Whatever his root cause issues are, he has had plenty of time to deal with it prior to now when he was about to get reinstated and actually play again.

Plenty of time? This is nothing new for him. He's been to rehab, he's been suspended yet he can't stop smoking weed. It's not because he's partying, he's self medicating.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12457328)
That being said I believe just like some people can drink and not be an alcoholic and some people cant, some people cant recreationaly smoke weed. They have an addiction issue.

This is obviously the case here IMO.

I completely disagree. This isn't a "party" issue, this is a deep psychological issue. Ricky Williams dealt with Social Anxiety Disorder and smoked, too.

Personally, if weed does it for him, good! Who in the ****ing world wants to be on Lithium, opiates, Xanax, et al, every single day of their life?

Couch-Potato 09-30-2016 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12457337)
Plenty of time? This is nothing new for him. He's been to rehab, he's been suspended yet he can't stop smoking weed. It's not because he's partying, he's self medicating.



I completely disagree. This isn't a "party" issue, this is a deep psychological issue. Ricky Williams dealt with Social Anxiety Disorder and smoked, too.

Personally, if weed does it for him, good! Who in the ****ing world wants to be on Lithium, opiates, Xanax, et al, every single day of their life?


100% agree. Young man is an incredible football talent, his employer needs to stay out of his personal medicinal choices and let him play football. I would love to see him sue the league over all of this.

Marcellus 09-30-2016 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12457337)
Plenty of time? This is nothing new for him. He's been to rehab, he's been suspended yet he can't stop smoking weed. It's not because he's partying, he's self medicating.



I completely disagree. This isn't a "party" issue, this is a deep psychological issue. Ricky Williams dealt with Social Anxiety Disorder and smoked, too.

Personally, if weed does it for him, good! Who in the ****ing world wants to be on Lithium, opiates, Xanax, et al, every single day of their life?

Even if his addiction is caused by some other ongoing mental problem, dude is still an addict.

To think anything otherwise is nonsense.

He was suspended in college for failed drug tests.

He has exactly 1 season out of 5 in the NFL now where he hasn't failed a drug test.

This is the textbook definition of addiction.

I know it goes against your whole "there is absolutely nothing wrong with weed" personal theory but it is what it is.

Marcellus 09-30-2016 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 12457356)
100% agree. Young man is an incredible football talent, his employer needs to stay out of his personal medicinal choices and let him play football. I would love to see him sue the league over all of this.

Couch-Potato huh? Interesting user name, its almost like its not obvious you are a pot head.

DaneMcCloud 09-30-2016 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12457362)
Even if his addiction is caused by some other ongoing mental problem, dude is still an addict.

To think anything otherwise is nonsense.

He was suspended in college for failed drug tests.

He has exactly 1 season out of 5 in the NFL now where he hasn't failed a drug test.

This is the textbook definition of addiction.

I know it goes against your whole "there is absolutely nothing wrong with weed" personal theory but it is what it is.

:facepalm:

Yeah, he'd be so much better off if he was on Adderall or Xanax.

eDave 09-30-2016 12:46 PM

Booze is perfectly fine. Start some bar fights. Shoot yourself in the leg. Beat your girl, ad nauseum.

Dude just wants to feel better. **** him, right? If the NFL cares like they say, let the man play. It's weed, FFS.

Let them all smoke. Less injuries that way anyway. Von Miller should roll a fattie before a game. He'll be less of a douche on the field.

Marcellus 09-30-2016 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12457372)
:facepalm:

Yeah, he'd be so much better off if he was on Adderall or Xanax.

Did you get some type of clinical diagnosis that nobody else is aware of or are you just making assumptions based on your own opinion?

Marcellus 09-30-2016 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12457384)
Booze is perfectly fine. Start some bar fights. Shoot yourself in the leg. Beat your girl, ad nauseum.

Dude just wants to feel better. **** him, right? If the NFL cares like they say, let the man play. It's weed, FFS.

Let them all smoke. Less injuries that way anyway. Von Miller should roll a fattie before a game. He'll be less of a douche on the field.

Based on what? Is it all the football hits he has taken being suspended for most of his career?

You guys are picking a hilarious hill to die on but again you are both smokers so its obvious the motivation.

DaneMcCloud 09-30-2016 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12457401)
You guys are picking a hilarious hill to die on but again you are both smokers so its obvious the motivation.

:facepalm:

I'm not a "smoker".

Amnorix 09-30-2016 01:02 PM

He obviously is an addict. Regardless of why he is addicted, the very definition of "addiction" is to continue behavior which is inherently self-destructive, and you know it's self-destructive. His use of marijuana is self-destructive in that it is ruining his NFL career.

All that said, the NFL should seriously revisit its marijuana policy. There is no real, legitimate, reason that it should be on the banned substances list any more than alcohol. If someone abuses it and it causes issues, then he can be dealt with by the gentle, loving, tolerant personnel conduct policies of Kommissar Goodell. Otherwise, WTF cares. Public perception on the issue has chagned, as has the law in many states, to recognize that marijuana is not in remotely the same class of drug as cocaine or heroin.

lcarus 09-30-2016 01:09 PM

I don't know how many times I've said this, but weed is only possibly mentally addictive. That's it. And from a league that feeds buckets of painkillers that are terribly addictive to its players, the anti-marijuana stance is absurd.

Marcellus 09-30-2016 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12457406)
:facepalm:

I'm not a "smoker".

My bad, "user".

Marcellus 09-30-2016 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 12457435)
I don't know how many times I've said this, but weed is only possibly mentally addictive. That's it. And from a league that feeds buckets of painkillers that are terribly addictive to its players, the anti-marijuana stance is absurd.

You do realize that most addiction stems from a mental aspect right?

Marcellus 09-30-2016 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 12457417)
He obviously is an addict. Regardless of why he is addicted, the very definition of "addiction" is to continue behavior which is inherently self-destructive, and you know it's self-destructive. His use of marijuana is self-destructive in that it is ruining his NFL career.

All that said, the NFL should seriously revisit its marijuana policy. There is no real, legitimate, reason that it should be on the banned substances list any more than alcohol. If someone abuses it and it causes issues, then he can be dealt with by the gentle, loving, tolerant personnel conduct policies of Kommissar Goodell. Otherwise, WTF cares. Public perception on the issue has chagned, as has the law in many states, to recognize that marijuana is not in remotely the same class of drug as cocaine or heroin.

I agree with all of this.

They will stop testing for it eventually, probably as part of the next CBA.

DaneMcCloud 09-30-2016 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12457452)
My bad, "user".

I'm not even a "user".

JFC.

Summer of 2015, on the advice of a doctor, I got a medical card and two vapes, one of which was CBD cannabinoid with only 7% THC. I haven't touched either one since around September of last year and they're probably bad.

Before that, I hadn't "experimented" since I was 16 years old.

That said, I have no problem with it, as seemingly everyone I know has a medical card. It's stupid that it's a banned substance in the NFL.

eDave 09-30-2016 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12457401)
Based on what? Is it all the football hits he has taken being suspended for most of his career?

You guys are picking a hilarious hill to die on but again you are both smokers so its obvious the motivation.

He wants to feel better against the disorders. You'd rather him be addicted to SSRIs or something. MUCH worse, IMO.

Some real Reefer Madness going on with you

LoneWolf 09-30-2016 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 12457356)
100% agree. Young man is an incredible football talent, his employer needs to stay out of his personal medicinal choices and let him play football. I would love to see him sue the league over all of this.

Sue them for what?

Marcellus 09-30-2016 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12457487)
He wants to feel better against the disorders. You'd rather him be addicted to SSRIs or something. MUCH worse, IMO.

Some real Reefer Madness going on with you

What disorders? You know something nobody else does?

Reefer madness huh? So you are only reading half my posts?

The Franchise 09-30-2016 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12457466)
I'm not even a "user".

JFC.

Summer of 2015, on the advice of a doctor, I got a medical card and two vapes, one of which was CBD cannabinoid with only 7% THC. I haven't touched either one since around September of last year and they're probably bad.

Before that, I hadn't "experimented" since I was 16 years old.

That said, I have no problem with it, as seemingly everyone I know has a medical card. It's stupid that it's a banned substance in the NFL.

Shit is about to be legal here anyways.

DaneMcCloud 09-30-2016 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12457561)
Shit is about to be legal here anyways.

Yep

Mr. Laz 09-30-2016 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12457459)
I agree with all of this.

They will stop testing for it eventually, probably as part of the next CBA.

nope, too soon.

It will take awhile before they stop tasting, maybe even a federal move towards legalization.

Always follow the money.

The Government won't legalize pot because Big Pharmacy is bribing them not to. Pot will cut into their billion dollar a year pain pill cartel .

The NFLPA won't push to stop testing because they don't want to give up money in exchange for stopping testing.

eDave 09-30-2016 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12457787)
nope, too soon.

It will take awhile before they stop tasting, maybe even a federal move towards legalization.

Always follow the money.

The Government won't legalize pot because Big Pharmacy is bribing them not to. Pot will cut into their billion dollar a year pain pill cartel .

The NFLPA won't push to stop testing because they don't want to give up money in exchange for stopping testing.

I believe it to be a performance enhancement drug.

Hell, Doc Ellis pitched a no-hitter tripping on LSD. Love that story. lol

Nickhead 09-30-2016 05:15 PM

weed is not a drug. lets get that straight ermkay :D

its not only that big pharma will lose out, but the oil industry, the paper industry, the textiles industry. pot/hemp has over 1000 uses that could aid society.

the irony is it's the drugs the docs have the people on that make things worse. it warms my heart when i see examples where children are treated with the oils and their seizures 'almost immediately stop' (i am not being literal here, but my point is made). :D

Chief Roundup 09-30-2016 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12457793)
I believe it to be a performance enhancement drug.

Not sure if serious but do you know that it is not even tested for by the Olympics?

Nickhead 09-30-2016 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 12457936)
Not sure if serious but do you know that it is not even tested for by the Olympics?

cause its not a drug. i should clarify. a drug is something that is man made of synthetics that can potentially kill in large doses. alcohol, drug, pepto bismol, drug, weed, not a drug :D


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