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BossChief 08-11-2016 10:40 AM

An extensive and complete breakdown of Alex Smiths 2015 season
 
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2016/8...opback-of-2015

I know it's another Chiefs site, but they deserve the clicks for this article, so I'm not going to copy and paste the article.

Simply Red 08-11-2016 10:43 AM

just watch deep ball myth bro.

Hammock Parties 08-11-2016 11:09 AM

i'm guessing they love alex

Bowser 08-11-2016 11:23 AM

That was an interesting article. Seth did a great job researching it.

Chiefnj2 08-11-2016 11:24 AM

Huge discrepancies between ESPN's stats as to length of throw and his numbers.

Halfcan 08-11-2016 11:55 AM

The only numbers you need to look at is Alex's-Yards Per Game and Touch Downs.

Both need to be improved greatly this year.

Fish 08-11-2016 12:09 PM

Smith sucks!

Pitt Gorilla 08-11-2016 12:14 PM

Are people surprised that it is more difficult to complete a deep pass?

Mile High Mania 08-11-2016 12:29 PM

Alex ranks 19th, 18th and 15th with pass attempts each of the last 3 years and he averages a 2:1 sack to TD ratio. He makes some good plays now and then, and his turnovers are low. So, he's got that going for him.

Simply Red 08-11-2016 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 12362680)
Alex ranks 19th, 18th and 15th with pass attempts each of the last 3 years and he averages a 2:1 sack to TD ratio. He makes some good plays now and then, and his turnovers are low. So, he's got that going for him.

Well he was good enough to beat the best QB and Defense of all time last season - in THEIR house.

Mav 08-11-2016 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 12362680)
Alex ranks 19th, 18th and 15th with pass attempts each of the last 3 years and he averages a 2:1 sack to TD ratio. He makes some good plays now and then, and his turnovers are low. So, he's got that going for him.



You mean the Chiefs are a running team?

I'm stunned.


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The Franchise 08-11-2016 12:58 PM

Where's the hidden TD stat?

Pablo 08-11-2016 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12362732)
Where's the hidden TD stat?

LMAO

TD hide and seek champion!

Mile High Mania 08-11-2016 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 12362719)
Well he was good enough to beat the best QB and Defense of all time last season - in THEIR house.

Yes... 17 of 31 for 204, with his lone TD on an 80 yard play in the 4th. Tore 'em up, but it was a stark improvement from the 16 of 25 for 191 and 2 INTs in the loss to Denver @ KC.

Visiting defenses won both those games.

Mav 08-11-2016 02:05 PM

The article was fair.


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trd84 08-11-2016 02:14 PM

the biggest problem this offense has had the last 3 seasons is the pre determined pass play calls. Where Alex only has 1 option. Its been a problem in all of our big losses. Better teams sniff those plays out. We take the ball out of Alex's hands too often on 3rd and short and redzone plays. We do a better job on 3rd down when we call traditional pass plays. Give alex multiple options to throw the ball to or let him use his legs if it breaks down.

That is what turned the season around last season getting away from those plays, but they started getting called more frequently as we approached the playoffs. And made the 1st playoff game closer than it should've been. we failed on like 3 3rd and shorts with those plays when the offense was otherwise playing very well.

Deberg_1990 08-11-2016 02:53 PM

2016 prediction

3300 yards
23 TDs
9 INTs

3 rushing TDs

Mav 08-11-2016 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 12362936)
2016 prediction

3300 yards
23 TDs
9 INTs

3 rushing TDs



Seems about right. Been his average the past few years. I'd love him to break that magical 30 td year. I just don't think it's in him.


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Simply Red 08-11-2016 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 12362797)
Yes... 17 of 31 for 204, with his lone TD on an 80 yard play in the 4th. Tore 'em up, but it was a stark improvement from the 16 of 25 for 191 and 2 INTs in the loss to Denver @ KC.

Visiting defenses won both those games.

Hey - good enough.

Deberg_1990 08-11-2016 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mav (Post 12362941)
Seems about right. Been his average the past few years. I'd love him to break that magical 30 td year. I just don't think it's in him.


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He is what he is. I Don't understand why fans think he's suddenly going to change.

Embrace it instead of being outraged

Simply Red 08-11-2016 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 12362797)
Yes... 17 of 31 for 204, with his lone TD on an 80 yard play in the 4th. Tore 'em up, but it was a stark improvement from the 16 of 25 for 191 and 2 INTs in the loss to Denver @ KC.

Visiting defenses won both those games.

one thing we can agree - NFL is back and we're about to party!!

Mav 08-11-2016 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 12362953)
He is what he is. I Don't understand why fans think he's suddenly going to change.



Embrace it instead of being outraged



Agreed[emoji106]


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Nickhead 08-11-2016 03:05 PM

personally, i see the chiefs o-line being one of the best in the league this year. this will allow alex to throw more, and run less.

gonna say he tops 4000 yrds passing (all YAC )

Pasta Little Brioni 08-11-2016 03:51 PM

Is this the mnchiefsfan from CP??? WTF is a REALmnchiefsfan?? He's got the always hilarious in this context CP term "watching tape" covered.

TLO 08-11-2016 04:07 PM

It has been a while since we've had a down and dirty Alex Smith thread. :clap:

Hammock Parties 08-11-2016 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 12363048)
Is this the mnchiefsfan from CP??? WTF is a REALmnchiefsfan?? He's got the always hilarious in this context CP term "watching tape" covered.

I don't think I've ever seen him criticize a Chiefs player, or even "grade" them fairly. He once wrote at least 500 words about what an amazing RB Cyrus Gray was going to be.

Pasta Little Brioni 08-11-2016 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smellway (Post 12363088)
I don't think I've ever seen him criticize a Chiefs player, or even "grade" them fairly. He once wrote at least 500 words about what an amazing RB Cyrus Gray was going to be.

Buh gawd he's a Lil Chiefy

threebag 08-11-2016 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smellway (Post 12363088)
I don't think I've ever seen him criticize a Chiefs player, or even "grade" them fairly. He once wrote at least 500 words about what an amazing RB Cyrus Gray was going to be.

We know autumn wind and knhomo have better takes than you do.

splatbass 08-12-2016 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 12362617)
The only numbers you need to look at is Alex's-Yards Per Game and Touch Downs.

Both need to be improved greatly this year.

IMO, Yards Per Game doesn't mean much. A QB coming from behind a lot late in the game against prevent defenses will have a high YPG - and still lose, while a QB that is leading a lot will run the ball more and have fewer YPG - and still win.

These guys were in the top 10 in 2015 in YPG:

Matt Ryan
Joe Flacco
Eli Manning
Blake Bortles

How did they do in the playoffs?

I'm with you on more TDs though.

|Zach| 08-12-2016 12:31 AM

I thought this was going to be a complete breakdown of The Smiths.

Gonzo 08-12-2016 12:41 AM

He's a very average QB which is better than anything we've had since Green.

He does not lose games with stupidity but then again, don't expect him to win games with brilliance either.
I can live with that.

Simply Red 08-12-2016 01:00 AM

easily the best sliding QB in the game!

Simply Red 08-12-2016 01:01 AM

I think he drives teams crazy - much in the same way Jake Plummer used to bootleg us. It's so annoying to give up yards that way.

Mav 08-12-2016 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smellway (Post 12363088)
I don't think I've ever seen him criticize a Chiefs player, or even "grade" them fairly. He once wrote at least 500 words about what an amazing RB Cyrus Gray was going to be.



Hmmm. So like the opposite of you? Overly harsh on the Chiefs, over effusive with praise of all other teams? That kind of thing?


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Bowser 08-12-2016 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 12363930)
I think he drives teams crazy - much in the same way Jake Plummer used to bootleg us. It's so annoying to give up yards that way.

Ah, the Jake Plummer bootleg. You'd think there would have been one time Eric Hicks would have remembered not to crash down on that play leaving Plummer wide open on the roll out. But no.

Hammock Parties 08-12-2016 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mav (Post 12363941)
Hmmm. So like the opposite of you? Overly harsh on the Chiefs, over effusive with praise of all other teams? That kind of thing?

Homers are a dime a dozen.

I'm one of a kind, baby.

Mav 08-12-2016 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smellway (Post 12364190)
Homers are a dime a dozen.



I'm one of a kind, baby.



That's certainly true. You are unique. To quote the band Everclear "you're perfect in a ****ed up way"


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WhiteWhale 08-12-2016 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 12362719)
Well he was good enough to beat the best QB and Defense of all time last season - in THEIR house.

I hope this was sarcasm.

2015 Manning wasn't the best QB of all time. He wasn't even a top 15 QB in the NFL. He was terrible, and the broncos won in spite of mediocre (at best) QB play.

OctoberFart 08-12-2016 09:35 AM

The guy uses Carr's Rookie year to compare against Smiths best year. WTF?

NWTF 08-12-2016 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by OctoberFart (Post 12364216)
The guy uses Carr's Rookie year to compare against Smiths best year. WTF?

When I saw that it ruined the credibility of the comparison, but he did admit his mistake and stated at the end hed take Carr over Smith

TigeRRUppeRRcut 08-12-2016 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 12362617)
The only numbers you need to look at is Alex's-Yards Per Game and Touch Downs.

Both need to be improved greatly this year.

And add his rushing yards dont you think?

I'm bigger on completion %, yards per attempt, total team td's, and td/int ratio. Our team has a run first mentality thus ypg as a benchmark is practically useless.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 08-12-2016 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 12363928)
He's a very average QB which is better than anything we've had since Green.

He does not lose games with stupidity but then again, don't expect him to win games with brilliance either.
I can live with that.

His playoff performances both here and with San Fran says otherwise

Ming the Merciless 08-12-2016 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 12363929)
easily the best sliding QB in the game!

He has made a lot of plays with his feet....especially last season.

But if he keeps trying to make stuff happen with his feet, he's gonna get pay a heavy price...

I'd much rather have a guy who doesnt have to rely on his feet as much...but not all of the blame is on ALex for that last season...the right side of our line caved in alot on him. Hopefully we got that figured out.

I'd love to see his rushing yards go down to almost zero and his passing yards go up by that same amount or more

Pasta Little Brioni 08-12-2016 10:03 AM

I can't tell if this is the real pawnmower or not

RunKC 08-12-2016 10:11 AM

Biggest issue was protection. He got nervous and didn't want to take shots on good defenses that pressured him, after getting killed in the first 4 games last season.

When Alex had a good OL in the 2nd half of 2013, he scored 20 TD's in the last 9 games. He also scored multiple TD's a game in 4 of the last 6 regular season games in 2015.

He's an average level QB who can be above average if the OL and receivers are good, which
appears to be the case this year.

OctoberFart 08-12-2016 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12364244)
His playoff performances both here and with San Fran says otherwise

How are Smiths third down conversation in the games where he put up decent numbers? I'm pointing to the indy meltdown and NFC champ game specifically?

NWTF 08-12-2016 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OctoberFart (Post 12364322)
How are Smiths third down conversation in the games where he put up decent numbers? I'm pointing to the indy meltdown and NFC champ game specifically?

Well the Indy meltdown was really more on the defense than Smith and the offense. The 2nd half offensive playcalling and execution was the perfect strategy for a 30 point lead but unfortunately the lead was only 28.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 08-13-2016 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OctoberFart (Post 12364322)
How are Smiths third down conversation in the games where he put up decent numbers? I'm pointing to the indy meltdown and NFC champ game specifically?

Do you even think before talking? Charles didn't even make it onto the field for more than five minutes and Smith put up spectacular numbers despite having a bunch of broke dicks to throw to.

milkman 08-13-2016 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12364300)
Biggest issue was protection. He got nervous and didn't want to take shots on good defenses that pressured him, after getting killed in the first 4 games last season.

When Alex had a good OL in the 2nd half of 2013, he scored 20 TD's in the last 9 games. He also scored multiple TD's a game in 4 of the last 6 regular season games in 2015.

He's an average level QB who can be above average if the OL and receivers are good, which
appears to be the case this year.

This is on the mark.

If this O-Line is as good as some/many of us think it has the potential to be, Alex Smith will have a highly efficient year with respectable numbers.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 08-13-2016 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12364300)
Biggest issue was protection. He got nervous and didn't want to take shots on good defenses that pressured him, after getting killed in the first 4 games last season.

When Alex had a good OL in the 2nd half of 2013, he scored 20 TD's in the last 9 games. He also scored multiple TD's a game in 4 of the last 6 regular season games in 2015.

He's an average level QB who can be above average if the OL and receivers are good, which
appears to be the case this year.

I've only known one QB who is a perennial winner and has played with absolute shit for his O line. Russell Wilson.

Shekelsteinberg 08-16-2016 02:47 PM

http://www.sfexaminer.com/wp-content...alls_.1203.jpg

Looking forward to seeing how my boy Alex improved his game from last season.


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