Adam Gase: The NFL is a dink-and-dunk league
 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...anddunk-league

What if I told you that the NFL is now an Alex Smith league?


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They just don't trust Tannehill to throw deep, he's just giving him some confidence.

I can't wait to see Clay's reaction to this. That the whole league plays like his favorite QB, Alex Smith. Quick, someone put him on suicide watch. This could just push him over the edge.

He is an idiot. Good riddance

He's still here

Yeah toutin the same tripe too

The NFL has gone from mad bomber to cerebral carver. :D

Gase is right, and the facts back him up

And even the Steelers O under Haley has tried to get away from the bombs away pounding that Roethlisberger constantly took. It didnt go over well at first either, but eventually Ben got it and put up career yards and completion percentages

The only place it doesn't work is around here where it seems everyone wants bombs away.

If you don't have a top 5 QB, why wouldn't you mostly Dink and dunk? The NFL is a play it safe league.


I think it's been proven that turnover ratio is directly equivalent to wins and losses more than anything. It's why a guy like Alex Smith usually wins.

Take a look at Tom Brady's game lately? How about Peyton Manning before he completely went to shit last year?

The only great QB who truly airs it out anymore is Aaron Rodgers, that's why everyone considers him the best in the league year in and year out, he can do it all with consistent success.

another QB and offense that does it regularly is Carson Palmer, but he makes far more mistakes than Rodgers does.

Exactly. Mad bombs don't payoff like cerebral carving anymore. Deep ball dudes need to get with the times.

Disclosure: I like a good mad bomb every once in awhile, when the situation dictates. It still serves a purpose.

Throw it DEEEEEEP!!!

Let's not pretend like Manning prior to last season, Brady and Brees are incapable of going deep. Those guys can and do go deep with success.

They're not afraid to work the horizontal and short part of the game but they'll also go vertical if they catch you slipping.

They legitimately force you to cover every inch of the field and that's what makes them great.

Let's not pretend that Alex is incapable of going deep.

There isn't an NFL QB who isn't capable of going deep.

Which is why I said "capable of going deep with success". I should have clarified "capable and willing while also enjoying consistent success".

Protect the ball and play defense....same as it ever was ssssame as it ever was

That's why I am hoping that this Tyreek hype pays out with a speedster that can get separation.

But I'm not going to get to excited for a 5th round rookie just because they are tearing it up in training camp. But it's nice to have things to be optimistic about, right?

There's too much going on in the world right now to be pessimistic about, like a Hillary Clinton Presidency.

Yep. Big Ben too.

What about Marky Baywatch?

Gase said that the Cardinals and the Steelers are the only two that really air it out in this league.

Geno is better than Carson Palmer/
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I remember saying I wished we had gotten Carson Palmer over Alex Smith a few years ago and was laughed at.

Everyone is wrong sometime.

Carson Palmer would have been okay. Glad Oakland shipped him out.

Still glad we went Alex Smith. Better than we have had for a while.

That seals it. This is the 4000 yard, 30 TD season for Al.

Al Davis disagreed and definitely paid the price ruining his organization which is now just starting to tread water again.

You watch Alex will under throw Hill multiple times this year.

Another reason the NFL sucks balls.

Big Rape is the only QB worth a **** in this league. Go Steele.

I bet Billay sucks your dick he won't.

This league really is dink and dunk now though. It's become that way out of necessity due to the increase of great pass rushers and defensive schemes and a decrease in talent along the OL.

I am hype. :hump::whackit::dom:

The problem with Carson Palmer is that he would of died behind the Chiefs o line.


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Maybe, maybe not.

The Cardinals had a really bad offensive line for a bit as well and he's still kicking.

Boy it's really good we have the Dink master then...

I mean we wouldn't want to get someone who had too big of an arm, because it might mess up the dink-dunk mojo...

God bless the folks that want 75 yds pass plays every possesion.

Bradyis a dink and dunker. But let's not pretend his game is even remotely similar to smith's. Brady does it through lightning fast reads, not check downs. He stretches the field horizontally whereas alex relies on the middle. And he's outstanding on third downs where Alex Smith is inconsistent. I like Alex smith's game end of last year where he opened the game up. He must throw downfield not every play, but enough to loosen up the D. Even if the game is dink and dunk, most Ds don't cheat in the box on other qbs the way they do Alex.

You honestly believe your dumb shit, don't you?

This is all true


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There is a difference between "throws downfield sparingly" and "does it at a league-low rate."

I do not consent.

False statement.

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How does Aaron Rodgers' team perform when he plays against a top five defense? Despite being one of the best quarterbacks of all time, he has routinely lost to solid defensive teams.

You also can't compare a guy who has had edelman, moss, Gronk with a guy who was stuck throwing to bowe, Hemingway, fasano, and Kyle Williams

Old news. WRs changed and Alex didn't.

If the first down marker is ten yards away, then someone please show me a stat that a higher# of attempts of passes 20+ yards down the field is associated with more points scored per drive.
The fascination with deep throws is a product of morons who think fantasy football applies to the actual game

Apparently NFL Network ranks in the top 100 players in the league after last year's performance. Maclin loves Smith. Tamba says he's highly underrated.

But yea you must be right about him... :shake:

It just makes sense for the Chiefs.. or at least, made sense thus far.

when you have a poor pass pro OL, and underwhelming deep threat WRs..
when you have excellent RBs and TE..
when you typically have a good to great defense and STs for field position..
when you have a selfless QB that only wants to win and doesn't want to throw games away..

Minimize the offensive risks.

That's just smart football.. and with an average of 10+ wins a season, it shows.

They just need to be better prepared... whether ready-made plan B scheme.. +/or an upgraded depth chart.. for when and if the major injuries occur again. Horribly timed injuries are what have been keeping the Chiefs away from SBs.

While I don't agree with Claythan's point of view, whenever someone brings this argument to the table, I just have to point out that Tony Gonzalez kinda loved Tyler Thigpen.

Between Green and Smith, Thiggy was the top of the mountain.

And how does this discredit the fact that Smith and Maclin connected on 70% of their attempts?

It's not about being in the top 10.

It's about not being DEAD ****ING LAST.

It doesn't discredit the connection between Maclin and Smith.

It does bring into question the opinions offered up by players.

Vernon Davis loved Alex too, his career tanked the moment Alex was out of SF.

I don't think there's any question that Alex Smith is a better QB than some give him credit for (myself included, at the time of the trade and through his first season as a Chief), and he has grown in his three years under Reid.

But he has been a guy that worked the middle of the field really well for 6 or 7 years, and Davis was absolutely a beneficiary of that strength.

That list of the yardage is ****ing stupid though. Some shit QBs at the top, some good ones at the bottom. More clay butt****ery

Let it go.

It's not a list of yardage.

And it's not about being in the top 10.

IT'S ABOUT BEING NOT DEAD ****ING LAST.

Mike Glennon NUMBA one ROFL

Career year a comin

That's nice.

I finally figured it out:

Chiefs fans are happy with their current used car salesman, and the organization is smart enough to keep loading the roster with prospects so that the few fans who are hopeful about actually developing a QB will stick around.

"Hey look; this guy could be a greater game manager than Smith; I'mma stick around"!

"Hey look; this guy is a gunslinger, my kind of QB prospect; I'mma' stick around"!

And then, when push comes to shove, ol' fatass will bring in the next vet, and you'll end up with whatever dumbass fans from whatever dumbass city he came from hanging about and riding his jock for your lifetime enjoyment.

Great shit, mang! :thumb:

Gee whiz Mr. Wizard, Coach Gase, tell us something we don't know...

Well we already know you aren't a Chief fan brah

From what I remember, Smith and Davis connected on their deepest passes via wheel routes along the sidelines.

Smellway is Clay 3.0

Ban. Him.

Ironic

No one is asking Alex to rank among the league leaders.

His complete lack of aggressiveness is a detriment to the offense, though.

Huh? What? Besides Alex Smith, Brady and Brees had the worse deep ball completion %.

He's just talking out of his ass. Nothing new.

mmm, pretty sure this isn't true

Well. Hogan was drafted, Foles was drafted by Reid. Bray was picked up by Reid, and Murray was drafted by Reid. What more do people want?


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This is true. He needs to take more chances and be more cut throat. Everyone in their hearts knows it.


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No. In the Giants playoff game, yes. But Smith and Davis torched the seam routes.


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Relax, wait for the season to start.

Um, yes I can. Brady made the afc championships throwing to recheck Caldwell and Jabar Gaffney. And he played behind an ol that gave up 50+ sacks to cassel. Claiming Brady has been gifted with a great supporting cast is incredibly false

When? Provide some statistics.

No, you can't.

This a general football discussion thread, not a dedicated KC Chiefs thread where licking of the boot is protected, safe zone speech.

Ban yourself, Black Bob.

Are you really this dense that you think Reche Caldwell, Ben Watson, and Jabar Gaffney in any way shape or form is a better trio than Maclin, Kelce, Wilson? I seem to recall that David Givens, Deion Branch, and David Patten were complete garbage after they left NE.

Claiming Brady's been surrounded by weapons to prop up Alex Smith is complete and utter nonsense.

It's the continuation of shitting in every thread. He needs to go more perma-banned than before.