Bosa rejects Chargers "best" offer
 

Michael Gehlken
Michael Gehlken – ‏@sdutGehlken

Chargers proposed to Joey Bosa what they made clear is their best offer, source says. It was declined. Offer pulled. Two sides are nowhere.

ROFL gazook just leapt into the ocean

Bosa and his agent are idiots. Good luck getting a team to want to deal with you after the shit you're pulling now.

It'd be hilarious if he re-entered the draft and lost out on all that money. I hope the Chargers don't cave.

This Bosa kid is an epic douchebag.

Apparently they offered to pay $10 million of his $17 million signing bonus up front and he refused.

I really don't care. :)

Joey's Mommy is going to send a very angry tweet about the mean Chargers.

About wasting a top pick?

Lol well you probably should. What an ugly situation.

Chargers should have been smart and drafted Ramsey.

Or Ronnie Stanley. Or DeForest Buckner.

Literally anybody else they were rumored to be interested in, but instead they took Bosa to play him at 3-4 DE. LMAO

There wasn't a ton of talent at the top of the draft. Kinda like the year you guys drafted Fisher first overall.

He was an odd pick as a 270 lb 3-4 DE but he looked like he might help in the running game. It's certainly not the end of the world.

This move hurts him far more than it hurts the Chargers.

I thought he was going to stand up in their 3-4?

Nope. reeruned, I know.

What a disaster ROFL

Holy shit. You're talking like Bosa wasn't a top 3 pick. ROFL

Losing a top 3 pick in the salary cap era is an absolute disaster dude

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...t-negotiations

The San Diego Chargers issued a statement on Wednesday regarding the contract negotiations with first-round pick Joey Bosa.

"We gave Joey's representatives our best offer last night, which was rejected today," the Chargers said in a statement. "The offer that we extended was for Joey to contribute during all 16 games and beyond. Joey's ability to contribute for an entire rookie season has now been jeopardized by the valuable time he has missed with his coaches and his teammates. Since Joey will not report at this time, his ability to produce not just early in the season, but throughout the entire season, has been negatively impacted."

He's too slow to be a 3-4 OLB and IMO he's not the best pass rusher. If you watch him play he really excels at handwork to get off of blocks and make plays in the backfield. I think they were more looking at him as a good fit in sub packages.

ouch

Wow-what a Bust pick.

:rolleyes: Yeah, essentially throwing away the 3rd overall pick doesn't hurt a franchise. SD has too many positions to fill to waste the opportunity at a blue-chip player on the cheap.

I cant believe they passed on O-line...

What a cluster-****.

Didn't the 2 picks around him get what he's asking for? With the slotting system it's hard to imagine not getting a guy signed.

Fixed

The bright side? Chargers can take Bosa with a top 5 pick again next year.

It's all about offset language and how much of his bonus is being paid up front.

Kinda. Wentz didn't. Ramsey did because the Jaguars never do deferred payments, while pretty much every other team in the NFL does.

This hold out has to be the dumbest holdout in the history of holdouts. Bosa will get all his money. They're fighting over WHEN he gets it. All now, or half now half a few months from now. Pretty dumb.

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so he is clumsily saying that any future offers will be reduced because Bosa is past the point of being able to earn a full contract this year...?


what a cluster ****...his agent has failed him

I agree. Bosa has bust written all over him, doesn't fit their scheme and now this.

BUUUUUST.

They should have just ****ing traded him once they knew that he wasn't going to accept their offer. Send him to a team like the Cowboys and ask for their 1st round pick next year. Yeah it won't be a #3.....but at least you'll get something out of this.

The Chargers are hoping that with that statement the reaction will lead to him signing that deal. No way they wouldn't sign him to that same deal in a week or so.

yeah, the 4-12 last place Chargers don't need the #3 pick in the draft...


like saying a dumpster fire doesn't need water

I'm assuming it's never a good thing when a team tweets out details of a rejected contract offer.

Charge on.

It's hard to make Dean Spanos and the Chargers into sympathetic parties.

Yet Bosa and his agent have managed to do precisely that.

I mean sure, the Chargers were stupid to take a prototypical 4-3 DE and try to force him into a 3-4, but it's their pick. They've stuck with precedent that many teams in the NFL have and they've come a long way to try to meet Bosa's demands.

Looks like he's demanding an unconditional surrender by the Chargers here and that's just not going to happen.

What a bizarre situation made possible only by two parties being as stupid as possible.

So now Chargers PR is posting aspects of the negotiations on it's site...which paints Bosa in a terrible light. Brilliant tactic...clown-show. Didn't they learn anything from Elway pissing off Miller for leaking details.

I'll be extremely surprised if he ever plays a down for them....

yeah, it takes two dummies to tango...and the agent is supposed to know when to say 'when' (even if 'when' is "the management is a bunch of assholes, but you need to sign regardless)

jesus, he could be in a car wreck tomorrow...pull your head out and take the $$$ they are trying to give you, they're paying you to swallow a bit of pride (and who's pride? the player or the agent's?)


and from the full charger statement:

I can not

CAN.

NOT.

believe you all are siding with the Chargers over Bosa on this. The CHARGERS ARE BEING ASININE ABOUT THIS.

This is not Bosa's issue, this is Dean Spanos being an egotistical reerun. The Bosas are absolutely correct to not sign and bow to this ridiculous contract.

LOL this shit show

There are 100 other Chargers that signed that didn't get what he wants. He's pissed hes not getting all his money now as opposed to 80% now and 20% next season.

I think it says more about people not wanting to play for the Chargers. He rather just lose out on this, then play for them.

Say what you want about the kid. Maybe he is a douche, but this isnt the first time someone didnt want to play for the Chargers and pulled some shit like this. After this shit has happened a few times, it might not be the players, it might be the actual team.

Knowmo, is that you?

Its not bizaare at all. He doesnt want to play for the Chargers. its not the first player thats basically done this.

Its not crazy, bazaar, weird or anything. He is saying pay me what i want because i dont really want to play for S.D.

Who else other than Eli Manning has said that they didn't want to play for the Chargers?

i'm curious to know which party decided to die on 'this' hill: bosa or his agent?

does a drafted player have any real concern for whatever contract language is in dispute unless his agent sells him on caring?

And the Manning situation was completely different. They knew they were going to get a trade on draft day.

And Archie is a douche.

I'm sure its the Agent and Bosa's dad.

Guarantee Bosa wants to play football, but he's getting bad advice.

Wholeheartedly agree with you. Blows my mind that so many people are posting that its Bosa's fault.

:spock: Bosa and his agent are reeruns

and what exactly is wrong with the offer that the Chargers gave Bosa


offset clause if he gets cut? You can thank Terelle Owen's crying ass for that shit.

He would sign a contract, turn into a huge pain in the ass so he got cut and then go to a new team and repeat the process. I believe at one point he was "getting" signing bonus money from 3 or 4 different teams at the same time.

Teams don't want players intentionally not playing once they get their signing bonus ala Owens

I think Laz would be a better GM than Telesco.

Shaka, when the walls fell...

That literally shocked me that they took him for their scheme, I am a huge Ohio State fan, and I will tell you Bosa is unreal. The kid is unblockable one on one, he is relentless. He played some stand up LB/hybrid stuff at OSU, and it wasn't his best fit. He is a machine in regards to rushing and stopping the run, and he can play inside or out in the 4-3, but the 3-4 is not a great fit for him. He would make plays in the 3-4 because he is just relentless, but square peg, round hole IMO.

What's unreasonable about the offer?

It's industry standard. Sure, some teams don't use the exact format, but many of them do.

This isn't the Chargers telling him they'd pay him in pennies and only during leap years. They offered him a contract that's in line with every other contract they've offered (and had accepted) by previous 1st round picks. The contract is comparable to contracts given by teams around him and by teams that have drafted in/around that position over the previous several years.

Bosa's the one being unreasonable here.

Bosa is being offered a contract that no one else(top 5 pick) has accepted since 2012. They've either gotten the bonus at once or the offset language was removed. The Chargers won't do either. A similar situation happened last year with Mariota but both sides met in the middle which is something the Chargers aren't willing to do.

Yup, this is on the Chargers.

As far as I understand top draft picks get a choice between deferred language or the bonus up front.

Chargers continue to offer neither, so they can protect themselves.

The way it's being framed in the media, which obviously supports the NFL, is that Bosa is simply demanding his full bonus up front when he's essentially asking for the same thing every other player at his draft slot has received since 2012 and what 95% of draft picks in the top 3 rounds have received in the same span.

50% up front with offset language is a bad rookie deal for Bosa, and that's what had been offered. The new offer was basically the same thing with 60% up front.

The chargers, as usual, have been active in smearing Bosa and setting the narrative that he's just a greedy asshole. The truth is they're just squeezing pennies because their shit organization is broke.

I'm stunned so many people are siding with SD, a team with a long history of pulling shit like this.

If you really look at what people are saying, it's basically they think he's over-rated as a player and they think that's somehow relevant. It isn't. The chargers drafted him at 3. If they didn't want to sign him, they should have traded the pick.

No other team would be having this problem right now.

Yep. The Chargers are the ones who are ****ing themselves here. Just read this tweet:

Ian Kenyon ‏@IanKenyonNFL 14m14 minutes ago
Bosa's agent is Todd France (CAA). CAA represents like half of the first round picks each year. They won't forget this.

Once again, you are right on!

It's like ordering the most expensive item on the menu and then standing there with your arms crossed refusing to eat it or pay for it until the head chef agrees to come out and cut it for you and the chef is like


http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k2...0.jpg~original


And then you're telling the waiter and the manager and everyone around you "this is the way it's done in every restaurant" and the chef is like



http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k2...0.jpg~original

Reminds me of when KC had Carl Peterson pulling shit like this.

They side with the Chargers cause most fans don't know what goes on. I'm sure once his mom said he should pulled an Eli they bitch about it and said **** him then we don't need him on the team if he act like this.

Bottom line: Bosa would be in camp if any of the 31 other teams drafted him.

Just look at the Chargers fans' comments on the tweets. They are unilaterally dogging the Chargers for being unreasonable dicks.

Bosa is a meathead with "stage parents" but they are well off and not desperate for money and them refusing to sign this BS contract is pretty close to goddam heroic.

Once again, the Chargers are idiots. Don't side with The Man. Down with The Man. Pro union on this one.

Heroic ROFL

Yup. Bosa has no reason to set a precedent like the Chargers want to set here. It's not just bad for him, but bad for the 2017 draft class.

Blaming Bosa is wasting the opportunity that KC fans have here. We should be laughing at the joke that is the SD chargers organization.

We can do both and watch this dude bust hard due to this decision

What part of this are you not getting? Signing this contract sets a precedent. This is not a greedy athlete situation, it's a situation of the Chargers trying to force a BAD DEAL on this and every future contract for almost no reason other than penny pinching idiocy.

It's not heroic, that's just my way of getting across that most players are poor and don't have the means to fight this kind of thing. The fact that they do sets up a unique situation where they can fight a STUPID OWNER doing STUPID THINGS.

I'm not a Bosa fanboy, I just hate BS contracts put together by businesses that screw their employers for almost zero reason. It reminds me of some KC corporations I worked for. This is why there is a union in the first place.

This is bigger than Bosa practicing.

Yet to hear you specifically tell us why this a bad deal?

ROFL He's only screwing his own future up.

Exactly.

Really? The kid is a 22 YO college puke who hasn't done jack shit in life yet. He played college football at a high level. Yippee ****in doo. So have thousands and thousands of other guys that ended up not being able to do shit in the NFL. He's 22. Twenty ****ing two! He literally doesn't know shit about anything. Bitching over when he is going to get his 17 million guaranteed is ridiculous. It tells me he's not confident he will be around as a solid player after January 1. 17 million dollars. What a punk.

It was already stated by someone else.

Oh well that certainly clears it up, I definitely see your point now.:rolleyes:

It amazes me that people like you STILL do not get it. Let me repeat myself....

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE AMOUNT OF MONEY OR WHEN HE IS GOING TO GET SAID MONEY....

It has 100% to do with the fact that the Chargers are asking Bosa to sign a contract which no player in his draft slot has signed since 2012, and they are unwilling to negotiate.

Why is this so difficult people? Jesus.

Here I'll do the legwork for you.