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Chief Roundup 08-28-2016 02:59 PM

Berry is baaaaack!!
 
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...ractice-monday


Eric Berry signs franchise tender, to practice Monday





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By Kevin Patra
Around the NFL writer
Published: Aug. 28, 2016 at 03:12 p.m.
Updated: Aug. 28, 2016 at 04:31 p.m.

Eric Berry is officially back.

The Kansas City safety reported Sunday and signed his franchise tender, the team announced. Berry will practice with the Chiefs on Monday. NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport first reported on Friday that Berry would return early this week.

"He's in great shape. It's great to have him here," coach Andy Reid said of Berry.

Reid added that he's leaning against playing Berry in Thursday's preseason finale against the Green Bay Packers.

The coach said last week he wasn't worried about Berry's conditioning and believed the safety would be in shape to play Week 1, despite skipping all team-run activities this summer.

Berry and the Chiefs did not agree on a long-term extension prior to the July 15 deadline, meaning he'll play 2016 on the $10.806 million tag. Until Berry signed his franchise tender on Sunday, the safety was not under contract, therefore not susceptible to being fined for skipping workouts. The sides can't negotiate a long-term deal until after the Chiefs season is over.

Easy 6 08-28-2016 03:01 PM

MEGA Q

Chief Roundup 08-28-2016 03:02 PM

Where is the thread that he actually signed his tender?

Hog's Gone Fishin 08-28-2016 03:02 PM

I figured it would be a week earlier but glad to have him on board . at least now we know we have a backup for Sorenson.

RealSNR 08-28-2016 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12391510)
MEGA Q

Wut?

The only other threads are about how he PLANS to sign his tender

Hog's Gone Fishin 08-28-2016 03:03 PM

Easy 6 being a douchebag

Easy 6 08-28-2016 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12391514)
Wut?

The only other threads are about how he PLANS to sign his tender

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 12391515)
Easy 6 being a douchebag

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 12391512)
Where is the thread that he actually signed his tender?

LMAO I NEVER call Q on anyone, and the one time I do its done in by a technicality

jjchieffan 08-28-2016 03:12 PM

It would be nice if these reporters would get their facts straight. Unless I'm mistaken, The Chiefs and Berry can't negotiate until after the league year is over. If the Chiefs were to miss the postseason, then their season would be over, and according to this guy, be able to negotiate.

Red Dawg 08-28-2016 03:14 PM

Will be the final year for him here. He better come up and play hard as hell.

Simply Red 08-28-2016 03:17 PM

FIRE IN THA HOLE!

Hog's Gone Fishin 08-28-2016 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 12391541)
FIRE IN THA HOLE!


I'm making chicken fajitas with habanero Rotella so tomorrow will be "FIRE IN THE A HOLE" for me.

TLO 08-28-2016 03:24 PM

GIRAFFE

Rasputin 08-28-2016 03:48 PM

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TigeRRUppeRRcut 08-28-2016 03:51 PM

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Bowser 08-28-2016 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 12391541)
FIRE IN THA HOLE!

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KChiefs1 08-28-2016 05:27 PM

Berry is baaaaack!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 12391504)
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...ractice-monday





Eric Berry signs franchise tender, to practice [red]Monday[/red]



Just as I predicted.





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stevieray 08-28-2016 05:29 PM

This seems nice.

Halfcan 08-28-2016 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 12391536)
Will be the final year for him here. He better come up and play hard as hell.

This is pure speculation. The Chiefs or Berry have never said one thing to indicate he would not be a Chief for his entire career.

Berry has stated he wants to play here. He will most likely have another All Pro year, will be another year cancer free- and the Chiefs will take care of him.

TEX 08-28-2016 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 12391715)
Just as I predicted.





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:rolleyes: As did most Nostradamus...

NJChiefsFan 08-28-2016 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 12391984)
:rolleyes: As did most Nostradamus...

I think a lot of us didn't even bother talking too much about it since it seemed like the only real outcome.

Mr. Laz 08-28-2016 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 12391971)
This is pure speculation. The Chiefs or Berry have never said one thing to indicate he would not be a Chief for his entire career.

Berry has stated he wants to play here. He will most likely have another All Pro year, will be another year cancer free- and the Chiefs will take care of him.

If everything was hunky-dory Berry would have reported before now. Even if they agreed to give him every other practice off or something.

Berry didn't report until late because he's pissed.

Even if he was just pulling a TonyG he would have reported when camp broke. Berry waited to the very last second he could and still give himself a chance to play week 1 to protect his FA next year.

Eric Berry The Leader Everyone

-King- 08-28-2016 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12392536)
If everything was hunky-dory Berry would have reported before now. Even if they agreed to give him every other practice off or something.

Berry didn't report until late because he's pissed.

Even if he was just pulling a TonyG he would have reported when camp broke. Berry waited to the very last second he could and still give himself a chance to play week 1 to protect his FA next year.

Eric Berry The Leader Everyone

What does playing week 1 have to do with protecting his FA?

He didn't come back early becausehe didn't want to play in any preseason games and get injured.
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Gadzooks 08-28-2016 09:23 PM

Rust causes injuries.

NJChiefsFan 08-28-2016 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 12392561)
Rust causes injuries.

Especially if it gets in the skin.

Mr. Laz 08-28-2016 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 12392552)
What does playing week 1 have to do with protecting his FA?

He didn't come back early becausehe didn't want to play in any preseason games and get injured.
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Because if he doesn't play a full season this year it could reduce his perceived value to other teams in free agency. If he gets injured this year it will also probably reduce his FA value.

'just not wanting to play any preseason' is quite the example for teammates

Berry has never seem to avoid practicing or playing in the preseason in the past. That didn't happen until his contract negotiations.

I don't hate Berry but he's been overpaid his entire career and now he's pissed because the Chiefs don't want to overpay him even more. Reportedly he's also pissed because he doesn't want to pay insurance to protect himself and the Chiefs with his new contract.

Berry is being kind of a dick.

KChiefs1 08-28-2016 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEX (Post 12391984)
:rolleyes: As did most Nostradamus...



A lot of dumbassery saying he only had to play 6 games this season.




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Gadzooks 08-28-2016 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 12392569)
Especially if it gets in the skin.

They say the same thing about Bosa. The longer you're away from contact drills the more likely you are to get injured.

Nickhead 08-29-2016 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 12391536)
Will be the final year for him here. He better come up and play hard as hell.

agreed,

if he has a monster year, hes gone, while the chiefs try to retain poe.

if he has a down year, he stays at the chiefs offering.

-King- 08-29-2016 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12392588)
Because if he doesn't play a full season this year it could reduce his perceived value to other teams in free agency. If he gets injured this year it will also probably reduce his FA value.

'just not wanting to play any preseason' is quite the example for teammates

Berry has never seem to avoid practicing or playing in the preseason in the past. That didn't happen until his contract negotiations.

I don't hate Berry but he's been overpaid his entire career and now he's pissed because the Chiefs don't want to overpay him even more. Reportedly he's also pissed because he doesn't want to pay insurance to protect himself and the Chiefs with his new contract.

Berry is being kind of a dick.

Every single player understands not wanting to risk injury when looking for a second contract. Do people on this forum think players are dumb and mindless and don't understand what other players are doing? Guess what? All the other players are looking for a big second contract too and they understand an injury in the preseason can ruin all of that. You don't think they see what happened to Brandon Oliver and want to minimize the risk of that happening to them?
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tx4chiefs 08-29-2016 05:26 AM

Figured it all along. He just didn't want to do training camp and early pre-season.

Frosty 08-29-2016 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 12392633)
They say the same thing about Bosa. The longer you're away from contact drills the more likely you are to get injured.

There is a big difference between a vet that's been in the league for awhile and knows what it takes to be in football shape verses a rookie who's never been in an NFL camp. Berry got himself back in shape from Chemo. I think he can handle getting/staying in shape from a holdout.

BossChief 08-29-2016 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 12391971)
This is pure speculation. The Chiefs or Berry have never said one thing to indicate he would not be a Chief for his entire career.

Berry has stated he wants to play here. He will most likely have another All Pro year, will be another year cancer free- and the Chiefs will take care of him.

You should listen to the interview Reid did with Colin Cowherd.

He flat out says he wants Berry to make as much as he can, but that KC can't keep paying everyone "highest position money" because it's a salary capped league.

I took that as saying they won't be giving Berry a long term contract.

Especially when guys like Matheau got over 12m per year and next year the bar will be even higher...Berry will probably get over 13m per year in FA and we will get a third round comp pick for him.

NJChiefsFan 08-29-2016 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Gadzooks (Post 12392633)
They say the same thing about Bosa. The longer you're away from contact drills the more likely you are to get injured.

I was making a poor joke about literal rust. I actually am not too worried about Berry taking a long time to make an impact.

ThaVirus 08-29-2016 10:59 AM

Berry is baaaaack!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 12392933)
There is a big difference between a vet that's been in the league for awhile and knows what it takes to be in football shape verses a rookie who's never been in an NFL camp. Berry got himself back in shape from Chemo. I think he can handle getting/staying in shape from a holdout.


Reid said he's in great shape and after going through chemo I don't think anyone here would have guessed any differently.

Big issue here will be him getting in "game shape" (ready for full contact) and missing reps with the new, young guys in the secondary.

Gadzooks 08-29-2016 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 12393260)
Reid said he's in great shape and after going through chemo I don't think anyone hear would have guessed any differently.

Big issue here will be him getting in "game shape" (ready for full contact) and missing reps with the new, young guys in the secondary.


Best of luck to him. It's a great story. I hope he's in game shape by week 2. :)

InChiefsHeaven 08-29-2016 03:21 PM

Check out his presser on kcchiefs.com. Honestly, I've never had a problem with Berry and the presser helps solidify that for me. Yes, he held out. My guess is, like all players, he wants a long term deal for what he is worth, the Chiefs could not or would not give that to him at this time, so he trained on his own knowing he'd be back. He kept a low profile and just did his thing. To me, he seemed genuine and loves being a Chiefs and is looking forward to playing. That's all you can really want out of a guy.

I don't know how to embed from there:

http://www.chiefs.com/media-center/v...6-16264a574968

ThaVirus 08-29-2016 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InChiefsHell (Post 12393789)
Check out his presser on kcchiefs.com. Honestly, I've never had a problem with Berry and the presser helps solidify that for me. Yes, he held out. My guess is, like all players, he wants a long term deal for what he is worth, the Chiefs could not or would not give that to him at this time, so he trained on his own knowing he'd be back. He kept a low profile and just did his thing. To me, he seemed genuine and loves being a Chiefs and is looking forward to playing. That's all you can really want out of a guy.

I don't know how to embed from there:

http://www.chiefs.com/media-center/v...6-16264a574968


If this doesn't link me to a Twitter post about how much he loves this team then he can go straight to hell!

R Clark 08-29-2016 03:33 PM

A real feel good interview ,bottom line they can't agree on the money

ToxSocks 08-29-2016 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by R Clark (Post 12393809)
A real feel good interview ,bottom line they can't agree on the money

Yet.

DaneMcCloud 08-29-2016 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 12391971)
This is pure speculation. The Chiefs or Berry have never said one thing to indicate he would not be a Chief for his entire career.

Berry has stated he wants to play here. He will most likely have another All Pro year, will be another year cancer free- and the Chiefs will take care of him.

The Chiefs will not give Eric Berry $40 million guaranteed and $12 million per.

Not only would such a move wreck their cap, he doesn't play a premium position.

Enjoy EB's final season in KC.

DaneMcCloud 08-29-2016 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 12393810)
Yet.

If the Chiefs and Berry couldn't agree to a long term deal in 2016, there's no chance they agree in 2017, when the contract numbers will be higher.

Hydrae 08-29-2016 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12393811)
The Chiefs will not give Eric Berry $40 million guaranteed and $12 million per.

Not only would such a move wreck their cap, he doesn't play a premium position.

Enjoy EB's final season in KC.

He'll be in Atlanta next season is my expectation.

saphojunkie 08-29-2016 03:40 PM

If this is Berry's last season in KC, then so be it. Thanks for the great play, and good luck. Now, let's spend $12M per on a premium pass rusher to replace Ford.

ToxSocks 08-29-2016 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12393813)
If the Chiefs and Berry couldn't agree to a long term deal in 2016, there's no chance they agree in 2017, when the contract numbers will be higher.

....and when the cap will also go up. Never say never.

Mr. Laz 08-29-2016 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 12392846)
Every single player understands not wanting to risk injury when looking for a second contract. Do people on this forum think players are dumb and mindless and don't understand what other players are doing? Guess what? All the other players are looking for a big second contract too and they understand an injury in the preseason can ruin all of that. You don't think they see what happened to Brandon Oliver and want to minimize the risk of that happening to them?
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You actually think avoiding training cap etc is going to reduce his risk of being injury?

Every play he avoids in preseason to avoid injury leads to increased risk of injury during the first 3/4 games of the regular season.

The tag money is guaranteed once he signs it whether he blows his knee out in a preseason game or blows it out during the regular season. Same money either way.

-King- 08-29-2016 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12393859)
You actually think avoiding training cap etc is going to reduce his risk of being injury?

Every play he avoids in preseason to avoid injury leads to increased risk of injury during the first 3/4 games of the regular season.

The tag money is guaranteed once he signs it whether he blows his knee out in a preseason game or blows it out during the regular season. Same money either way.

He went through chemotherapy and didn't get injured at any point in the season. He was weaker at the start of last season than he is now so I'm confident not going to training camp won't lead to injury for him. If he does get injured then it wont be because he missed TC. He tore his ACL a fee years ago the first or second game of the season, was that because he attended training camp?

And the cap money is not all that matters. He's also wanting a long term deal and if he suffered an Achilles injury or soemthing like that, his long term offer next year would be significantly lower.
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DaneMcCloud 08-29-2016 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 12393821)
....and when the cap will also go up. Never say never.

The Chiefs estimated Salary Cap next year is $166 million but currently, they have players under contract for $170.5 million, which includes Foles at $10 million, Mauga at $3 million, Charles at $7 million, Colquitt at $5 million.

While it's possible we could see those players cut or restructured, I still don't believe it'll be enough to carry a $12 million dollar per safety, as they have other needs (and the draft).

RunKC 08-29-2016 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12393889)
The Chiefs estimated Salary Cap next year is $166 million but currently, they have players under contract for $170.5 million, which includes Foles at $10 million, Mauga at $3 million, Charles at $7 million, Colquitt at $5 million.

While it's possible we could see those players cut or restructured, I still don't believe it'll be enough to carry a $12 million dollar per safety, as they have other needs (and the draft).

The Chiefs wouldn't be paying him $12 million next year. First year cap hits are always small and the player gets more guaranteed $$.

DaneMcCloud 08-29-2016 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12393896)
The Chiefs wouldn't be paying him $12 million next year. First year cap hits are always small and the player gets more guaranteed $$.

I realize that but it would astounding if the Chiefs signed Berry to a long term deal in 2017, because it would have been far less expensive to make it happen in 2016.

Hog's Gone Fishin 08-29-2016 05:02 PM

Hopefully Berry will come around at the end of the year and give us a hometeam discount. Charles, DJ and Fisher all did so maybe he'll follow. I mean if we'r ever gonna be sucessfull over a long period like the Pats we need a core of team players.

RunKC 08-29-2016 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12393898)
I realize that but it would astounding if the Chiefs signed Berry to a long term deal in 2017, because it would have been far less expensive to make it happen in 2016.

Well they maybe could do it.

-Rolling over $$ this year would create a little over $8 million in 2017.
-Cap rise will probably be around $5 million making it $13 million.
-Extending Foles could lower his $10 million 2017 cap hit year 1 to save around $5 million.

That's $18 million without cutting Mauga and cutting/restructuring Colquitt.

Not sure if that will work, but we have $27 million in 2018 to push the 2nd year cap hits for Poe and Berry.

the Talking Can 08-29-2016 06:35 PM

it seems pretty obvious berry and the chiefs are parting ways

kelce and fisher were handled, and poe will be next


someone had to be the odd man out, berry it is


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