This years rookie class looks ready
 

I remember Andy Reid and Terez Paylor saying early on in OTAs that this rookie class is way ahead of the curve and how they might be the most "ready" rookie class Reid has had. I was very impressed with them ALL when I was at practice and the preseason games have done nothing to change that notion.

This is a VERY strange class in that I really think almost everybody contributes right away.

Chris Jones - looks like an immediate difference making player

KeiVarae Russel - probably would be in competition for starting spot if he signed on time.

Parker Ehinger - day 1 starter at LG

Eric Murray - sub package "starter"

Demarcus Robinson - hasn't came on yet.

Kevin Hogan - development QB

Tyreek Hil - will be the day 1 punt returner and I think he starts the year as the #3 WR.

DJ White - has played well in PS and might carve out a role that gets him playing time.

Dadi Nichols - undeniable talent in this kid. Has a chance to be pretty good once he adds a little weight. Should be used as pass rush specialist while Houston is out. Just flies around the field and has natural pass rush talent.


I know it's early, but this rookie class has a good chance to be pretty damn special.

I agree looks like a successful draft glass.Was hoping Russel would look a little better than he has so far.Hope your right that he just needs more time

He missed all of the first 4 defensive installations.

He's still behind the 8ball, but has starter talent.

Depends on your definition of Ready.

Chris Jones,Parker Ehinger and Tyreek Hill are the only 3 'ready' imo

KeiVarae Russel barely 'ready' for preseason/scrub play

Eric Murray looking very rough

Demarcus Robinson will he even make the regular roster?

Kevin Hogan another guy who is doubtful to make the regular roster

DJ White - shown flashes but very inconsistent (normal for rookie)

Dadi Nichols - shown some real skill but coaching staff doesn't seem to be pushing his development. :(

There's Laz, trying to clown on Gibbs...one of the best LB coaches in the league.

To have three come in and start is about as good as it gets.

Strange take for sure by him

Especially on a loaded team

We're not really loaded at those positions though.

Dadi Nicolas played well with the 2's on Saturday against Chicago's first team offense.

There's a chance that he could be a contributor this year but I look for him to break out big time next year.

He gets it.

Could be the next Mike Maslowski except faster-and hopefully no injuries. The Maz was undrafted and was a hard hitter with a nose for the ball.

Demarcus Robinson, KeiVarae Russell and DJ White won't do anything this year outside of ST's IMO. I really want Nicolas to get some obvious passing down snaps if Ford struggles, but idk if he will.

Murray will probably strictly be a box safety who stuffs he run for the first half of the season until he feels comfortable, but the other 3 should play a lot.

It's early, but I'd say Demarcus Robinson could be a potential cut. He just looks slow and isn't getting separation.

I still think Russell has a chance, but they're almost certainly going to give him the Steven Nelson treatment this year.

What's our dime package at this point? He may play dime, which is like 50% of the snaps in our D.

Peters
Gaines
Nelson
Berry
Parker
Sorenson? White? Murray?

Sorenson unfortunately. Hopefully Murray takes over for him by November.

Could be Akers, really.

That secondary is just chaos right now.

Marcus Cooper
Jamell Fleming
Brock Vereen

Anything could happen.

KeiVarae Russel has been an enigma.

DJ White is what KeiVarae Russel was suppose to be.

And Ehinger appears 'ready' to be the weak spot on our line while Tyreek Hill appears 'ready' to be the 4th WR.

There's a fair amount of potential here but coming off last season's class where Peters and Morse were immediately studs, I'd say the bar is raised a little higher than where BossChief has placed it.

What do you expect out of a rookie class though? I mean, you'd like to see Russell show a little more, but for the most part, I'd say it's been a good showing

Damn, I was wondering how Robinson was doing.

And? It's tough to make a squad coming off 3 straight winning seasons.

Just saying. We're below league average at WR, CB and LG.

why do you say that?

If they were thinking that Dadi would be ready this year wouldn't they play him with the 1's etc?

There's a lot we don't know, maybe Dadi isn't absorbing the entire playbook are something.

Always looking for something to fight about. :shake:

Coaches certainly look like they are planning on playing Ehringer anyway.

I would rather play Fulton myself

I think Hill is going to return kicks and work his way into a DaT role.

I was trying to be positive.

Apparently not positive enough for BossChief, but i was trying.

Yup

Hard to believe we'd expose a 3rd or possibly 4th rounder to getting swiped off the practice squad. But it was a weird draft, in that typically a team isn't looking for mid round volume when they have a pretty deep roster.

No we are not. That is crazy talk. Below league average would mean basically bottom 10 at those positions. Those positions may indeed be weak points, but even they are league average. Start with WR. JMac is a legit number 1. That alone puts us above a lot of teams. Conley, Streater and Hill all flashed enough to be league average for 2,3, and 4 WR. Move on to CB. Marcus Peters is a top 10 CB in the league and DROY. He puts us at average or above by himself. Granted there isn't much behind him, but that can be said for most teams. Very few have 2 or more elite CB. Now if you had said that the depth is below league average, I might have entertained that notion until Gaines proves he can step up. But as a whole, they are not below average. LG. Hmm. Ehinger is a rookie that needs to bulk up. But OL is generally weak across the league. I'm not sure that even with his inexperience that I would rank Ehinger bottom 10. I son't believe the staff does either or he wouldn't be starting game 1. That being said, I would definitely like to see improvement there. And with thee young guys we have at those positions, we may just see that improvement sooner rather than later.So calm down, and stop overreacting.

No, no and no.

We're bad or unproven at all of those positions.

Yeah and we will probably only lose 1 big time player this offseason in Poe/Berry. With a likely 10 picks next year and tradeable comp picks it would be a good year to move up in the first and get a player they love. This teams depth is ridiculous

Unproven doesn't = bad

The WR's are clearly better this year. It's not even up for discussion.

The CB is a question at this point but it's been a question since 2013, yet they've always fared well.

This is the best line since 2003 and with bookend tackles and a great center, can cover most deficiencies.

:facepalm:

You are very out of touch with the NFL outside of KC.

You're right. Jmac and Peters are bad and unproven. SMH

Maybe below average 'depth' would have been more accurate.

Maclin - stud
Conley - looking like might be a stud
big bag of blah

(Streater has looked Jag so far, Hill hasn't flashed at WR, just returner, Wilson is JAG, Hammond isn't even JAG at Wr, DaT isn't even JAG at Wr when he's healthy)


Marcus Peters - stud
Gaines - might be decent

and a big bag of what the hell do we have

we have no idea what these guys will do past Peters and Gaines. Can Gaines stay healthy? is he 100%?

Young guys have looked really rough. That's why Dorsey went an got another CB and we haven't seen him yet, so he doesn't count yet.

LG - Ehringer looks shakey and Fulton's ideal position is Center.

nothing to write home about

Spot on.

Contending teams don't have this many question marks.

ROFL

care to go through the patriots depth chart and compare?

Below average depth is a better discussion, and right now it may be. But by seasons end, I expect that to be better as well. These young guys, including Ehinger have a lot of upside. They most likely won't all pan out, but I think enough of them will pan out to the point that even the depth becomes at least league average.

Right, because the Carolina Panthers had no question marks last year.

:rolleyes:

Dumb ****ing ****.

Nor did the Broncos, Cardinals, Seahawks, and Steelers?

And they all have question marks again this year.

Clay's a ****ing troll.

And I don't understand how Hill hasn't flashed at WR. If it's a better pass he walks into the end zone on a 70 yard bomb. Not including his 25 yard gain the game before. And he's done this in about a game of playing time

Not if Conley keeps looking the way he has. That's a good starting 2

Acker looks like he can fill the corner spot opposite of Peters. I'm not that worried assuming Acker is a solid starting corner.

Losing Houston is huge. We'll see what happens.

Virus doesn't even watch the games.

It's pretty obvious Conley is going to be the best WR2 this teams had in a very long time.

What makes you think Russell is ready to play. Not trying to be a dick, I'm just curious because I've barely heard his name.

It's certainly looking that way. I'm a Conley fan, i was on his bandwagon clear back when he got drafted.

He still needs to do it when it counts.

You are stretching Ehinger being shakey out of proportion. Aaron Donald is the best interior DL in the game. What did you expect a rookie in his 2nd NFL game to look like?

Our OL looks good even with Ehinger. Go watch the Broncos game. Aaron Donald was killing them and ruining damn near every play.

Hope you're right.

Check the "other games" threads for the past several seasons. All I do is watch football.


Maclin

Peters

Conley

DAT

Russell

Gaines

Streater

Wilson

White

Cooper

Two of these names are not like the others.

I remember people calling me an idiot for saying that Aaron Donald was better than Marcel Dareus and that I would take him over Dareus in a heartbeat.

http://i.giphy.com/TlK63EM6GhqSvsD3yRa.gif

It's sad but watch Fisher and Fulton on that play. Not their best moments as pros. ROFL

I do too because you ****ing deserve it

So you still think that Marcell Dareus is a superior DT to Aaron Donald?:rolleyes:

Knile Davis.

Another guy with zero feel for the game.

The Chiefs are over-relying on rookies and second-year players to fill key roles.

Conley
Ehinger
LDT
Morse
Hill
Jones
Russell
Nelson
Acker
Gaines (might as well be a 2nd year player)
Ford (third year but looks to be a huge weakness at a key starting position)

That's a huge burden on young unproven players. All of those players are either starting or filling key sub roles.

These other teams don't have that many question marks to that degree.

If you expect all of these players to play at an above average level you are living in a dream world.

And trolls live for these responses.

No but I still think you're a dumbass

To be fair to him, there is really nothing that he could have done on that play to make it work short of morphing into Barry Sanders.

Davis is a nice returner and a shit running back.

Stevie Wonder has better vision.

It's probably because you're notorious on this forum for jacking off to guys from other teams who MIGHT be on the cusp of being great, but still haven't proven shit yet.

Chandler Jones, anyone?

Might be better to say that the 2nd year guys look ready. Conley and March looked good, West and Ware looked good, LDT has looked good and of course Peters/Morse look good.

His YPC suck and he looks like a deer on ice when he runs but I seem to remember him filling in nicely for Charles in 2014. He was doing good vs the Pats last year til he fumbled which btw lost us the game.

2014? I remember him running into his offensive lineman during the Raiders game.

The only time I recall Davis impressing was his rookie season against the Colts. Of course, he broke his leg and couldn't continue, which like 2015, directly resulted in a loss but I'm drawing a blank about his performance in 2014.

Ahhh just looked it was the Dolphins game in 14' which was a must win at the time followed by another 100 yard game against the Pats. Yeah he didn't do much running the ball vs the Raiders but he took a pass 80 yards and looked fast as **** thato game at Arrowhead.

I'd still keep him ahead of Reaves.

Blech.

I'd rather give Reaves an opportunity to not fumble on the road in New England

Rofl fair point

Chris Jones' development will interesting because if Dorsey struck gold again concerning said D-Tackle then the scheme could be changed that would render Poe's play less damaging to the Defensive corps if he never truly recovered from his injury

:spock: this place is nuts

The point isn't to have zero question marks, people. It's a roster of 53 players.

The key is to manage your question marks early in the season, and have them answered by the end of the season. And hopefully be peaking by the end of the season.

The Chiefs are in an excellent position for that, with the minor exception of our secondary, which looks like it's going to take a long time to figure that out.

Our OL will mesh well by the end of the season, and has quality backups everywhere on the line (how awesome is that).

Houston will be back and fresh, providing a boost to everything our defense does.

Barring any catastrophic injuries, we should be peaking by the end of the season.