Friday Injury Report for KC @ PIT
 

In Chiefs news so far....

OUT: Jah Reid, Charcandrick West

Questionable: Jamaal Charles, Tamba Hali, Phillip Gaines

Marcus Peters and Phillip Gaines did practice today.

In Steelers news thus far....

OUT: Ryan Shazier, Ramon Foster, Eli Rogers, Robert Golden, Senquez Golson, Roosevelt Nix

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On Justin Gilbert stepping in for injured players this week, one Steelers reporter says 'Gilbert is going to have his hands full with Travis Kelce'.

Wow. Shazier being out is HUGE.

Worth noting that Hali and Jamaal are questionable for the first time this year.

Looks like it's for a "hand" injury, not the knee. I'm sure he'll play.

Can't see him missing a game like this

Charcandrick West is hurt from what? I know he hasn't been the same since last season and since Ware taking most of the reps. I would rather have Charles back then Davis getting the ball.

So, Ehinger is apparently a Go. Good to get him off that injury list.

Yup him and LDT will play. Hopefully this means we can have our best offensive day yet.

According to Adam Schefter, Jamaal Charles will return Sunday night.

:drool:

One of my best friends is a die hard Steelers fan, going to the game Sunday night (from Missouri), has been giving me shit about Jamaal being fumble prone for the last year ever since that Denver game.

Here's to karma doing its due diligence this week.

Shoot, Charles fumble numbers aren't worse than some other stars who get the ball a lot (Adrian Peterson...eesh)

Yeah, and he knows that, just one of those things that is joked about...

still, it'd be sweet if he shoved it in his face this week.

Could be worse. Glad to see Charles making it back. Go CHIEFS

I'd be really surprised if Charles plays. My thought was they'd rest him this week, then take the bye, then put in back into the battle after the bye.

I think Ehinger is ready to go. :)

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He has a ankle problem... I thought he has looked ok when he was in... used on mostly wide pitch plays..

My thought is that they use him on Sunday. If there's any issues, then he has an extra week to heal. Chiefs would be in good shape with a win this week.

I was kinda thinking like you were George, but with West out it might have hastened their plans a bit. Don't think we just wanna go with Ware and Davis, so I can see Charles playing this week.

We have Jamaal for that now

Give JC the ball Reid! Give him the ****ing Ball!

Check Peterson's fumble numbers in the postseason too..

Friday Injury Report for KC@PIT
 

Shazier being out is big. This is setting up nicely for the offense to have a nice day.

Who do they have to cover Kielce? Who do they have to cover Maclin? Conley even?

And their pass rush is buns.

it will be great to have JC back.

Yup. With our starting OG's and Charles will be back, we should be able to run the ball also.

I wasn't so sure about that. I was checking the stats and apparently they're only allowing 75 rushing yard per game so far this season.

I'm not sure if that's legit or not but I suppose we'll find out on Sunday.

That's because they've played Matt Jones, Jeremy Hill, and Ryan Matthews.

Its great to apparently have LDT back, but I would honestly rather see Fulton play over Ehinger all year

I agree. It would be wise to play him now.

This game could have playoff implications down the road.

Chiefs need as many weapons as possible.

If Charles can play, he needs to play this week. And he will.

We are in no position to sit around and wait longer. We need wins.

Think they want Justin Gilbert to cover Kelce.

That will end badly for them

Ryan Shazier out helps a lot.

When Charles is in the Defense will key on him just like before

You realize our offense just might ... might .... get worse when Charles comes back, don't you?

Andy Reid might go further into his shell.

Why throw any of those risky passes beyond 5 yards when Charles might just bust one for 6 if you keep giving it to him. ~Signed Andy Reid~


Not to mention that our offense becomes even more about outside the hash marks. Reid's dinky passes tend to be outside the hash and now our running game will move more outside with Charles instead of pound it up the middle.

Ware is the most physical guy on our offense

"Reid sucks...blah blah blah"

"Sutton sucks...blah blah blah"

Rinse and repeat.

Mother of God.

I hope not

It happened in reverse when Charles got hurt. The offense opened up.

Now maybe Reid has learned his lesson.

That's very true.

:clap::clap::clap:

It doesn't seem totally homerish. I hope it's not true, but anything is possible. :rolleyes:

Just don't fumble the ball Jamaal!

Yeah not buying that. Not with Mr cutie pie play caller.

IMHO I think that if West was not dinged up Charles wouldn't play until after the bye to let him get 'max' healing time. He most likely could of played last week or the week before from the reports coming out of practice.

JFC you whine alot

when youare getting killed 30 something to 3 why run?

Maybe so but what i say is still correct.

Our offense actually improved when Charles got hurt because it forced Andy Reid to expand the playbook. He got in the habit of just playing defense and waiting until Charles broke a long one to provide the offense.

Denying that just makes people look stupid.

Hopefully Reid has learned from his mistakes but so far this year it doesn't look like it. At least with Ware we hit it hard up the middle and force defenses to keep guys inside tight. Ware brings the playaction pass effect back to our offense, something Reid doesn't believe in.

I'm not saying that Ware is a better player than Charles, just that with Ware playing Reid is forced to use slightly more of his playbook.


and to continue my whining ..... might as well embrace it since it doesn't matter what i do or say, i can't lose the label.

We desperately need Reid to relinquish his OC and Playcalling duties. Keep him as HC but we need a better OC. He is not aggressive enough for the current NFL and under him our offense isn't disciplined or inventive enough.

Only a moron would think the team is worse off in the long haul wothout Charles. They will use both and both will rape.

You really are dumb as hell.

Ware has 2 fumbles already this season in, what, 40 carries or so?

Way to sidestep the issue. :shake:

I didn't. Big Andy will use both and they will wreck shit.

The next time Reid learns a lesson will be the first time.

I want to see plenty of fullback dives this weekend.

I think that's just Andy Reid trying to make use of his greatest offensive asset. Can't say Id blame him. Charles is the type of guy that we all know can take it to the house. He's still the most explosive weapon on this offense in my opinion.

I think Charles can stretch out the defenses a lot more. That's key right there because that could leave the middle open for Ware.

Laz is spot on here...

One can HOPE Andy has learned his lesson and isn't so JC centric. It's too predictable and too easy to key on him. Spread it out, use him as a decoy, give Ware plenty of work and continue to try and stretch the field will make JC - and the entire offense - all that more effective.

That's how I'd play it anyway.

Though I have not seen anyone point out specifically how the offense improved after the JC injury, it clearly did. I really don't know how it happened, but yeah, Reid is as easy to blame than anyone.

I don't want to see Ware rush less times, but I do like that JC is headed for taking West's touches this game. West, whether hindered by injury or sudden vaginitis, has been troubling in his limited time. Always running straight for the sideline a la Albert Wilson.

It will be fun to see Charles back at it.. but I still want Ware to be the main RB. His vision and power can't be denied.. and if the OL didn't have so many fail blocks, he would be in the top 5 of current backs.

I like Ware, but if Charles is 100% and still the same Charles, then he needs to get at least 15-20 touches a game.

Ware is good, but there is no one that has the combination of vision, speed and explosiveness that Charles brings.

well, hopefully Charles' play will forcefully remind me of this. Happy to apologize to him then.

I hear you and was worried as well, but how much worse can this offense get right now when adding someone of JCs caliber? It's already been stalling out lately, maybe it needs to be changed up again.

Charles didn't practice, so I doubt he plays.

I don't give a **** if it's Hill or Charles. Screen the **** out of this team Andy. Go full blown Reid.
The Steelers are giving up the most YAC in the league and couldn't stop a screen to save their lives.

So is LDT and Ehinger going to start?????

Appears so

Have to trust the players and coaches on this one. I just hope that who we are playing and West's injury are not the reasons he is going to be playing.

I trust this team with injuries and taking care of players. They take care of Hali and are cautious with players. Now I was hesitantly last year with Poe but he had limited reps to start the year. I think Houston's issue was that he wanted to be there for the playoff run and they didn't see the ACL issue obviously until the surgeon went inside the knee.

Friday Injury Report for KC@PIT
 

Not a bad group of backs.

Good offensive lines, too.

Jeremy Hill has averaged less than 4 YPC the past two seasons. It's looking more and more like his rookie season was a fluke. Matthews currently does also (3.2) and is clearly over the hill, as he was never that good to begin with. The rookie Smallwood came in towards the end of that Steelers game and looked significantly better. Jones is over it this year, but he's still a below average RB. He sucks.

What? ROFL

Sherman plays so little that its hard to understand why Reid even keeps him around

Yep because guards in the NFL score all the points in a game.

/cp

Which part do you disagree with?

Probably the "not a bad group of backs" part.

I mean, if that's your definition of "not bad", you must mean a starter. They're three of the worst starting RB's in the NFL, which was my original point. LMAO

You're definitely overselling it. They're not bad (Matthews sucks but Barner, Sproles and Smallwood help make a pretty good stable).

Not at all. You're just ****ing clueless about the NFL outside of KC.

Washington averages 3.8 YPC.

Philly averages 3.7.

Cincy averages 3.1.

The Chiefs average 4.2 and are getting the all-time career leader in YPC back.

:facepalm:

So much this.

I'm not taking sides on this, or even adding this because of your current discussion.

Was only wondering if you or anyone else has an opinion on Football Outsiders' stats, like Offensive Rushing DVOA and rankings.

Currently have the Chiefs rushing rank at #28.
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamoff

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You realize using averages to definitively prove a point 3 games into the season is pretty worthless, right? Unless you think Isaiah Crowell is the best running back in the league..

And what do the Chiefs have to do with anything?

Because I said the Chiefs should be able to run the ball against the Steelers, and that's what started this debate.

All three of those teams starting RB's are among the worst in the NFL, as is their ruining games in general.

This is a fact that you somehow are unaware of, despite me providing the YPC stats from both angles as proof. Starters have shit YPC #'s. Rushing offenses too. It's as simple as that.

Kinda like you trying to tell me the Colts haven't had a shit defense for years now, and that Bortles wasn't being overrated by being put in the top 50 or due for a regression with a tougher schedule this year. You'd think you've never watched an NFL game outside of KC in your life based on our arguments on the subject.

Wait...Is Virus a YouTube highlight Warrior?

And I'm trying to explain to you that using averages to get a good read on things from such a small sample size is pretty futile. But, if you can definitively say so then I guess Charc West>>>>>Ware and Crowell>>>>> Gurley and Peterson, etc... Ok, we'll go with that...

Why are you bringing up old arguments anyway? I used statistics from a 3 year span in order to bolster my argument about the Colts defense not being as bad as you claimed and, IIRC, their defense had only given up somewhere between 22-24 PPG during that stretch. Hardly as bad as you were making it out to be.

I hardly even remember the argument we had about Bortles, but the dude had just thrown for 35 TDs and the Top 100 is a prediction of the coming season. It only makes sense that a young QB who just had a promising season would be ranked so high based on potential. He deserved to be ranked highly.