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In58men 10-01-2016 10:19 AM

For those battling or know somebody battling pill addiction.
 
This song kinda hit home as I recently lost a best friend from pill addiction. Sorry to be a downer, but we don't know what members are facing these problems and we should take care of our own here. Hopefully this song can't help those in need.


https://youtu.be/B9tqvCYlZSQ


(I can't embed from iPhone, apologies)

Hoopsdoc 10-01-2016 10:20 AM

Addiction is an awful disease. I know several who are fighting it myself.

Sorry for your loss.

SAUTO 10-01-2016 10:59 AM

Best way to get through an addiction is to not be a weak minded idiot and just stop.

LoneWolf 10-01-2016 11:20 AM

Sorry for the loss of your friend, but this song won't help anyone who's fighting a pill addiction. Those fighting addiction already know how they are hurting themselves and those around them. Their addiction just doesn't allow them to care enough to stop. What they need is those around them to stop enabling their addiction and to get the professional help they need.

Mr. Flopnuts 10-01-2016 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 12458395)
Sorry for the loss of your friend, but this song won't help anyone who's fighting a pill addiction. Those fighting addiction already know how they are hurting themselves and those around them. Their addiction just doesn't allow them to care enough to stop. What they need is those around them to stop enabling their addiction and to get the professional help they need.

Shut the thread down. You won't get a better response than this one.

notorious 10-01-2016 11:54 AM

Lost one of my best friends to this. He couldn't live with it anymore and opted out of life through a 12 gauge.

Kman34 10-01-2016 12:05 PM

Sorry for your loss..

Dave Lane 10-01-2016 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 12458438)
Lost one of my best friends to this. He couldn't live with it anymore and opted out of life through a 12 gauge.

Sad thing is that requires way more mental strength than just quitting.

notorious 10-01-2016 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 12458449)
Sad thing is that requires way more mental strength than just quitting.

One would think, but someone addicted to pills like he was couldn't think straight.

LoneWolf 10-01-2016 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 12458450)
One would think, but someone addicted to pills like he was couldn't think straight.

Yep. Sometimes you hit rock bottom and sometimes rock bottom hits you.

stumppy 10-01-2016 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12458380)
Best way to get through an addiction is to not be a weak minded idiot and just stop.

Just curious. Is that how you beat addiction ?

SAUTO 10-01-2016 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by stumppy (Post 12458469)
Just curious. Is that how you beat addiction ?

Yep.

I speak from experience, im not sure anyone that's still alive was in the same boat.

Believe that.
One day I woke up and decided no more, I'm not a ****ing pussy.

And I quit.

eDave 10-01-2016 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12458482)
Yep.

I speak from experience, im not sure anyone that's still alive was in the same boat.

Believe that.
One day I woke up and decided no more, I'm not a ****ing pussy.

And I quit.

Man, I wish

Randallflagg 10-01-2016 01:01 PM

I was a kid in the early 60s. My old man had just retired from the military and he had taken a job in LA. I spent a LOT of time on the strip and became good friends with guys at several of the recording studios in the area - particularly ABC-Dunhill. I became close friends with the guys from "Steppenwolf" (and still am to this day). During this time, I tried everything you can imagine (drugs) and some you can't. It was nasty. It cost me my relationship with my folks and a lot of my friends. I happened to be in the studio one day when John Kaye was working out the production on "Snow Blind Friend" written by Hoyt Axton.

I listened to the song and it burned a hole in me. I call it being struck by lightning. I stopped using that day and have never used again. God bless anyone who is struggling with addiction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQAd9Txa9Ts

PAChiefsGuy 10-01-2016 02:08 PM

I am battling alcoholism right now. It sucks... I don't view it as a disease I simply think I like to drink more than others so it causes problems.

Calling it a disease is a cop out IMO. You have to take some responsibility.

That said I am sorry for your loss man. Hopefully now your friend can get some peace.

BlackHelicopters 10-01-2016 02:18 PM

The best way to get over an addiction to pills is to switch to smack.

Chiefshrink 10-01-2016 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 12458541)
I am battling alcoholism right now. It sucks... I don't view it as a disease I simply think I like to drink more than others so it causes problems.

Calling it a disease is a cop out IMO. You have to take some responsibility.

That said I am sorry for your loss man. Hopefully now your friend can get some peace.

You are an honest man and that is the first step.:clap:

jspchief 10-01-2016 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 12458449)
Sad thing is that requires way more mental strength than just quitting.

Not really. Giving up is easy.

Pablo 10-01-2016 02:25 PM

I've taken plenty of painkillers recreationally. Not regularly since college. Very glad I never got hooked on that shit. Great way to ruin your body and your life.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-01-2016 02:25 PM

Lulz that somg isn't gonna do crap

Rasputin 10-01-2016 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 12458395)
Sorry for the loss of your friend, but this song won't help anyone who's fighting a pill addiction. Those fighting addiction already know how they are hurting themselves and those around them. Their addiction just doesn't allow them to care enough to stop. What they need is those around them to stop enabling their addiction and to get the professional help they need.

Well said. True for me and true for loved ones.


If a person doesn't see that they have a problem then they will sooner or later find out that they do and I'd hope and pray it's not too late for some it I can be. Others know they have a problem but suppress it with more addiction anyways. I did.

Rasputin 10-01-2016 02:35 PM

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This song won't stop you from putting a bullet in your head but if you listen to Lenny Don't go and put a bullet in your head just turn your life around instead maybe you wont?

I think it's a good song too but in depression you don't listen to anybody but the thought of lifes not worth the trouble and heartaches and the feel of helplessness. So it's a lot easier said than done to turn your life around but I know this if you do put a bullet in your head game over and you can't hit the reset button.

Pablo 10-01-2016 02:38 PM

I won't put a bullet in my head, I'll just put it up to my nose.

Rasputin 10-01-2016 02:56 PM

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Buehler445 10-01-2016 03:26 PM

Sorry for your loss inmem. Drugs suck.

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 12458450)
One would think, but someone addicted to pills like he was couldn't think straight.

I know very little about addiction. But a buddy of mine has a twin sister that I knew in school. He told me she got on meth. She would say don't let me do it. Then the craving would get in and it was like she was a different person and had to have it.

**** drugs.

listopencil 10-01-2016 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 12458552)
Not really. Giving up is easy.


Sometimes not giving up is just another way of giving up.

listopencil 10-01-2016 03:43 PM

To the point though InMem: I've seen people just lose the will to live and die well before they should have for no real reason. It's real. It happens. I've seen people live for far longer than they should have because they decided that they weren't going to die today. That's real too, that happens too. The human mind is incredibly, profoundly, amazingly, almost miraculously powerful. If you are feeling down please talk to someone who knows how to shake you out of it. If you don't have someone or it's not working then make an appointment and get some treatment.

Coochie liquor 10-01-2016 04:02 PM

Damn, sorry to hear about your loss. My stepdad died from it about a year and a half ago. I wasn't close with him, but my mom had been through a lot with him. It was like being imprisoned for her as he was always ****ed up, and needing to go to doctors and get his fix. It hurt her a lot when he died, but I think she's better off and more free now than she was when he was alive.

This song can pretty much tell the story of losing someone to addiction/overdose. Even though that's not how my son died, nor was he addicted the song spoke to me and helped me get through some rough times in my life after he died.
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This song is another by the same band about getting someone back who is addicted and trying to help them through it while fighting their own demons.
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And this song is about losing people who are close to us to different things. I often tear up when listening because the first verse really hits home with me.
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And this is basically a song about how a guy became addicted and dragged his girlfriend down with him. This guy is a recovering addict, and his songs are real life shit. It's really a beautiful song, and I've been through the same kinda thing in my life and it really makes me think how ****ed up I used to be (not that I'm not now...)
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Rasputin 10-01-2016 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12458482)
Yep.

I speak from experience, im not sure anyone that's still alive was in the same boat.

Believe that.
One day I woke up and decided no more, I'm not a ****ing pussy.

And I quit.


I didn't think any of my addictions were easy to quit. I can't say I quit but I can say I don't do them today and if I don't do them today I have better odds of not doing them tomorrow. So as long as I don't start up today I maybe good tomorrow & the next day. One day at a time is the best I can do It's giving me some years of sobriety so I can be thankful for each day I do have.

Insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results. I had to change but no one could change me or get through to me in the abyss but was drowning in my own sorrows mostly self harm because I just didn't like myself very much. It was work to get myself a level where life was worth living.

Rasputin 10-01-2016 05:07 PM

I remember getting off cocaine and quit smoking dope because it was interfering with my drinking I'd rather get drunk and pass out. Some ten years later I had this craving that came over me and it was cocaine calling me. At first I didn't recognize it but then that craving got worse and I knew what it was because I could taste it. That was kinda scary point but I didn't go back to it but I remember having that craving. Haven't had that craving since though. I could drink 10 x more on cocaine but wouldn't get the affects I liked from booze.

Rasputin 10-01-2016 05:25 PM

I had to save my daughters life two weeks ago but I didn't talk about it here.


She is doing fine now but the amount of Tylenol in her system would have been fatal if I had not recognize she wasn't right and called the paramedics. I thought she was having nightmares but I knew something else was going on. If I let her sleep I don't want to think about it.


I will say she got treatment and is on outpatient now and is doing fine and is turning things around has a new spirit about her and that is wonderful so sometimes even in the worst of a persons life miracles do and can happen. I do believe in miracles and something bigger than me to protect my family because I am not strong enough myself.

Rasputin 10-01-2016 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 12458541)
I am battling alcoholism right now. It sucks... I don't view it as a disease I simply think I like to drink more than others so it causes problems.

Calling it a disease is a cop out IMO. You have to take some responsibility.

That said I am sorry for your loss man. Hopefully now your friend can get some peace.

I loved to drink still would if I knew how to handle it but I can't control it, it controlled me my every move and thought and obsessions revolved around alcohol.

I just don't drink today and that's the best I can do.

tmax63 10-01-2016 05:50 PM

Nicotine is just as bad the others. I quit chewing tobacco coming up on 4 years ago after 35 years of dipping. I had an instance in the past month where I told "momma" I'm glad there isn't any around. I just had to make up my mind I wasn't gonna do it anymore.

Rasputin 10-01-2016 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tmax63 (Post 12458816)
Nicotine is just as bad the others. I quit chewing tobacco coming up on 4 years ago after 35 years of dipping. I had an instance in the past month where I told "momma" I'm glad there isn't any around. I just had to make up my mind I wasn't gonna do it anymore.


Ice cream is a hell of a drug to convert to after smoking. I went binge eating by the buckets for 6 months and half price malts and shakes from Sonic after 8pm. An addiction is an addiction.

Pablo 10-01-2016 06:04 PM

I'm pretty lucky that none of the good time shit I've done in the past has every put it's hooks in me. Except for booze. I still have to get nice and drunk every couple of weeks at a minimum to keep my sanity.

I know it's nothing like a day to day problem, but I still don't think I could just quit drinking booze if I really wanted to. That would ****ing suck.

BigBeauford 10-01-2016 07:53 PM

Yeah I realized alcohol is a bit of a problem for me. I don't consume a ton of it, but I don't want to drink it, and I still do. If Kansas would just legalize pot already, I would have a better alternative.

Simply Red 10-01-2016 08:59 PM

I went through a stint of 11 months of this - there was a time I bought $800 worth in one trip - also a day I took 21 10mg's oxys. It took my supplier to run out to FINALLY (and he always had them and I always had the $$) - reflect...

I went through the withdrawals because I didn't have a choice, so I used it to my advantage and told myself never again - and I never did take them again. Even after availability was back, I blocked my suppliers ability to reach me and just ****ing quit. A few of you knew of this - but I didn't tell many CP'ers.

wazu 10-01-2016 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 12459035)
I went through a stint of 11 months of this - there was a time I bought $800 worth in one trip - also a day I took 21 10mg's oxys. It took my supplier to run out to FINALLY (and he always had them and I always had the $$) - reflect...

I went through the withdrawals because I didn't have a choice, so I used it to my advantage and told myself never again - and I never did take them again. Even after availability was back, I blocked my suppliers ability to reach me and just ****ing quit. A few of you knew of this - but I didn't tell many CP'ers.

Nice job, man. ****ing awesome. Congratulations! Inspiring.

Simply Red 10-01-2016 09:04 PM

I have a party animal side of me and he wants to come out to play almost always - but once i quit something I'm done - I still don't drink to this day.

DaNewGuy 10-01-2016 09:04 PM

I'm going through some things myself at the moment. Just lost a friend 2 months ago to an Oxy Od. Sorry about your friend Inmem

Simply Red 10-01-2016 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 12459039)
Nice job, man. ****ing awesome. Congratulations! Inspiring.

thanks adam.

Simply Red 10-01-2016 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DaNewGuy (Post 12459041)
I'm going through some things myself at the moment. Just lost a friend 2 months ago to an Oxy Od. Sorry about your friend Inmem

sorry buddy.

Simply Red 10-01-2016 09:12 PM

there were days i felt it in my head and was waiting for the lights to go out - thank God I pulled through.

Coochie liquor 10-01-2016 09:14 PM

I have a MAJOR addictive personality. I feel like I've been battling it my whole life. I love pushing the envelope and getting as ducked up as possible. The drug doesn't matter, only the boss does. That said, I've managed to keep it to weed and alcohol for a long time. There was a time when I could say no to no drugs. But somehow I've managed to keep it to a minimum and only weed and alcohol. My problem is when I start doing anything no matter what it is (weed, extasy, porn...) I have to go to the extreme. Either go big or go home has been one of my mottos my whole life . Yet somehow I have been able to keep it in
Check. Maybe I'm just getting old, or don't have the connections I used to. Either way I'm slightly drunk right now, and these are the 2 songs that seem to be my theme songs since I hit 40.
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And

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DaNewGuy 10-01-2016 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 12459047)
sorry buddy.

Thanks Red, glad you pulled through. The world needs Simply Red :clap:

Coochie liquor 10-01-2016 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 12459049)
there were days i felt it in my head and was waiting for the lights to go out - thank God I pulled through.

Hey homie, me and the fan are coming up to Stone Mountain for my daughters dance competition the weekend after next. I would LOVE. To get together for a sandwich, or a beer, or a margarita... whatever you're good with. If you will be available I'd be happy to hang out for a few or whatever. Lmk if you have any availability. She competes at the Highland games.

Coochie liquor 10-01-2016 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DaNewGuy (Post 12459055)
Thanks Red, glad you made pulled through. The world needs Simply Red :clap:

We seriously need to link up. You're my boy Blue....


Maybe we can get ThaVirus to meet up with us also. Before the season ends PLEASE!!

Simply Red 10-01-2016 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 12459058)
Hey homie, me and the fan are coming up to Stone Mountain for my daughters dance competition the weekend after next. I would LOVE. To get together for a sandwich, or a beer, or a margarita... whatever you're good with. If you will be available I'd be happy to hang out for a few or whatever. Lmk if you have any availability. She competes at the Highland games.


sounds good just PM me when we get closer - a few days prior - :)

Coochie liquor 10-01-2016 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 12459060)
sounds good just PM me when we get closer - a few days prior - :)

Mos def bro. Hope we can link up this go round.

Demonpenz 10-01-2016 09:37 PM

I gave up my fight against booze when I was 29. Got all the help I could. I was lucky that I never was good at anything or successful in the real world. That made t easier to just do what doctors and theropists wanted me to do. I am still constantly fighting bi-polor and depression, and I recently went through a two year depression that was God awful. The worst. I wanted to die but I think you go to hell if you kill yourself so I keep on making my appointments and trying different things. The other day I was talking to my doctor about constantly losing jobs now because of my mental health. He reminded me that I go through more in a day than 99 percent of the population. I am not pissed off at God or anything I just try to go to depression forums and help. You definitely have to take it as it comes.

Coochie liquor 10-01-2016 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 12458772)
I had to save my daughters life two weeks ago but I didn't talk about it here.


She is doing fine now but the amount of Tylenol in her system would have been fatal if I had not recognize she wasn't right and called the paramedics. I thought she was having nightmares but I knew something else was going on. If I let her sleep I don't want to think about it.


I will say she got treatment and is on outpatient now and is doing fine and is turning things around has a new spirit about her and that is wonderful so sometimes even in the worst of a persons life miracles do and can happen. I do believe in miracles and something bigger than me to protect my family because I am not strong enough myself.

So glad you were able to see there was something wrong. Losing a child is the worst thing anyone can go through. Bless up to you and your family.

Simply Red 10-01-2016 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 12459073)
I gave up my fight against booze when I was 29. Got all the help I could. I was lucky that I never was good at anything or successful in the real world. That made t easier to just do what doctors and theropists wanted me to do. I am still constantly fighting bi-polor and depression, and I recently went through a two year depression that was God awful. The worst. I wanted to die but I think you go to hell if you kill yourself so I keep on making my appointments and trying different things. The other day I was talking to my doctor about constantly losing jobs now because of my mental health. He reminded me that I go through more in a day than 99 percent of the population. I am not pissed off at God or anything I just try to go to depression forums and help. You definitely have to take it as it comes.

hang in there bud. I'm always here if you need anyone to talk to.

ClevelandBronco 10-01-2016 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12458482)
Yep.

I speak from experience, im not sure anyone that's still alive was in the same boat.

Believe that.
One day I woke up and decided no more, I'm not a ****ing pussy.

And I quit.

You sound like an excellent candidate for relapse. Let us know when it happens so we can enjoy it too.

Simply Red 10-01-2016 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 12459125)
You sound like an excellent candidate for relapse. Let us know when it happens so we can enjoy it too.

:rolleyes:

Katipan 10-01-2016 11:17 PM

For the 5th year, I've made a birthday cake and held my kids as they sang/cried happy birthday to their dead father.

Stop it.

Buzz 10-01-2016 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 12459073)
I gave up my fight against booze when I was 29. Got all the help I could. I was lucky that I never was good at anything or successful in the real world. That made t easier to just do what doctors and theropists wanted me to do. I am still constantly fighting bi-polor and depression, and I recently went through a two year depression that was God awful. The worst. I wanted to die but I think you go to hell if you kill yourself so I keep on making my appointments and trying different things. The other day I was talking to my doctor about constantly losing jobs now because of my mental health. He reminded me that I go through more in a day than 99 percent of the population. I am not pissed off at God or anything I just try to go to depression forums and help. You definitely have to take it as it comes.


Except forgiveness and be done. NO MORE BAGGAGE!

EPodolak 10-01-2016 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 12458541)
I am battling alcoholism right now. It sucks... I don't view it as a disease I simply think I like to drink more than others so it causes problems.

Calling it a disease is a cop out IMO. You have to take some responsibility.

That said I am sorry for your loss man. Hopefully now your friend can get some peace.


Weird that your brain doesn't direct action based on pleasure and pain like normal folks. That might not be a "disease" in the classic sense, but it's anomalous and definitely a condition.

I got sober 14 years ago about an hour before I died. I don't care whether it's a disease or no, or whether someone thinks I'm a pussy or not. Long term recovery happens when you get humble enough to tap out regardless, not because you somehow got tougher.

BWillie 10-01-2016 11:44 PM

I must be fairly lucky. I have a very addictive personality because once I find a hobby I like it starts to consume me a little bit. Reading, Golf, video games, lifting, ping pong and poker. Every one was very difficult to quit, except poker which I love, while I understand I must be somewhat addicted to it. The good news is i put in the work from the start to be able to earn money doing it and it turned into a 2nd income. Im sure if i lost at the game i suspect i would have quit by now.

But Im lucky I do not have the substance addiction gene. I believe in it. Its ruined a couple of family members and friends lives. Ive seen it. I personally cant understand it. Being drunk and then hung over all the time is exhausting and alot of work. I stopped cigarettes cold turkey due to the cost. Never could figure out the appeal of weed and why ppl do it all the time. Cocaine & amphetamines are great but when I was younger went on benders and never really felt the need to continue after. Loved energy drinks but then found out what they were doing & could do to my body and just quit. I really think it must be genetic because any addictive substance is super easy to quit for some and literally impossible for others

SAUTO 10-01-2016 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 12459125)
You sound like an excellent candidate for relapse. Let us know when it happens so we can enjoy it too.

Well it's been 18 years, I wouldn't hold my breath if I was you.

mdchiefsfan 10-02-2016 12:53 AM

I just lost a dear family friend. He was 22 years old. He dabbled into something he shouldn't have and it cost him dearly.

The man bent over backwards for anyone he held near and dear, and that is something truly hard to find nowadays.

Pills are the worst.


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