Elway killed me as a QB, but he's even better (worse) as a GM.
 

I'm over 50 years old, so I've had the displeasure of watching this dude wreak havoc on the AFC/NFL for decades now. JEEZ LOUISE, could we make personnel decisions like this!!

George Bush could play qb for them and win

Really: picks QBs out the ass, signs defensive players
in their prime, seems to have the salary cap down. This TB game is killing me...Lynch, after no name Simeon.

Denver has won games with 4 different QBs under Elway now

sickening

unfortunately he's a great football mind.

They kicked the shit out of a shit team. Not impressed

You realize they not only played the Bucs, but the Bucs backups. The SAME Bucs that the Rams pathetic O ripped up.

It doesn't matter though cause you know every Denver QB is elite. ROFL

Their D came out pretty fired up. The Broncos O wasn't matching their intensity/effort and Kubiak seemed to be rather stubbornly sticking to the running game when it wasn't working. They did eventually wear down and the Broncos started beating up on them. And then they started losing guys. The Broncos D got three turnovers fairly early as well so that ****ed over the Bucs pretty badly.

A bunch of Chiefs fans in here sucking on smellway :shake:

It's pathetic. :harumph:

If by picks QB's out of his ass, you mean a full-court press to secure a future HOF QB veteran, draft a QB in the 2nd round to groom behind him for years and when that draft pick leaves for a ridiculously inflated contract, you maneuver up the draft board to take a QB in the first round all the while turning a developmental 7th rounder into a potential NFL starter.

Completely pulled it out of his ass.

The lounge name change living up to its name.

Denver has 2 phenomenal receivers. That's going to make a lot of QB's look better than they are. Don't get this shit twisted.

No, I meant the same thing, obviously: "why can't we make personnel decisions like this." I didn't mean he'd lucked into anything, he's killing me with his picks. The move up in round 1 this year is a perfect (typical) example. Remember: He signed Manning when Manning refused an interview with us (the Chiefs).

Well since you have been defeated by him you should just go join him then.

Who gives a shit. Simien and Lynch are not elite QB's. They are average.
Denvers defense and receivers are elite.

The broncos cheat on salary cap and elways a dick monkey! Also he's the zodiac killer!

He got a little lucky that Manning was willing to go to Denver, as that definitely helped the team to bring in a bunch of talent for reasonable contracts.

But it's tough to deny that they seem to be drafting well and playing free agency perfectly lately.

By all means, keep sucking that Elway horse cock peeps. From the looks of it, ya'll seem to like taking the throat beating.

John Elway doesn't deserve a thread on a Chiefs board. **** John Elway. In the ass. With a glowing iron rod. While forcing him to drink anti-freeze. And injecting him with AIDS.

And yes, **** Elway!!

Screw Denver. We have 40 years of awesomeness and trophies to shine.

How do the Bawls taste?

Like rocky mountain oysters dipped in ranch.

ROFL :D

I just want to eat some KfC one day while winning a Super Bowl and post a picture on the orangemane. I doubt it will happen but if we get there that's what I am doing!

Jury is still out. Carolina isn't close to the team they were last year. Jacksonville just beat the Colts, and TB is a turd. Winning at Cincy is a quality W, but so far there is not even anything close to enough to say that they have struck gold on either QB. I suspect that one of those guys might pan out but it doesn't mean they have the next Luck under center.

Oh, and **** horseface. Still hate the dude. They lucked into the Manning scenario, and screw them for tampering and stealing Sanders after that dickhead had already negotiated and had an agreement to sign with the Chiefs.

You forgot about the part where he falls out of an AIDS tree, hitting every branch on the way down.

Here are the draft picks from Elway's tenure as general manager. Let's add up the number of pro bowls they've produced. Other than Von Miller, who was a classic boom/bust pick due to the criminal activity, I don't see a lot of talent here. Denver's success has come from offering Peyton Manning an eventual ownership stake if he signed with Denver, which by the way is a violation of the salary cap.

Year Rnd Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
2016 1 Paxton Lynch 26 QB 0 0 0 Memphis
2016 2 Adam Gotsis 63 DT 2016 0 0 0 0 3 Georgia Tech
2016 3 Justin Simmons 98 FS 2016 0 0 0 0 2 Boston Col.
2016 4 Devontae Booker 136 RB 2016 0 0 0 0 3 16 62 0 2 22 0 Utah
2016 5 Connor McGovern 144 G 0 0 0 Missouri
2016 6 Andy Janovich 176 FB 2016 0 0 0 0 3 2 30 1 2 24 0 Nebraska
2016 6 Will Parks 219 S 2016 0 0 0 0 3 1 Arizona
2016 7 Riley Dixon 228 P 2016 0 0 0 0 3 Syracuse
Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
2015 1 Shane Ray 23 DE 2016 0 0 0 2 17 7.0 Missouri
2015 2 Ty Sambrailo 59 T 2016 0 0 0 1 4 Colorado St.
2015 3 Jeff Heuerman 92 TE 2016 0 0 0 0 1 1 29 0 Ohio St.
2015 4 Max Garcia 133 C 2016 0 0 0 3 18 Florida
2015 5 Lorenzo Doss 164 CB 2015 0 0 0 0 6 Tulane
2015 6 Darius Kilgo 203 NT 2016 0 0 0 1 12 Maryland
2015 7 Trevor Siemian 250 QB 2016 0 0 0 0 4 63 94 756 5 3 10 31 0 Northwestern
2015 7 Taurean Nixon 251 DB 0 0 0 Tulane
2015 7 Josh Furman 252 DB 0 0 0 Oklahoma St.
Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
2014 1 Bradley Roby 31 DB 2016 0 0 0 5 35 3 1.0 Ohio St.
2014 2 Cody Latimer 56 WR 2016 0 0 0 0 25 2 1 0 11 104 1 Indiana
2014 3 Michael Schofield 95 OL 2016 0 0 1 6 16 Michigan
2014 5 Lamin Barrow 156 LB 2015 0 0 0 2 32 LSU
2014 6 Matt Paradis 207 OL 2016 0 0 1 6 19 Boise St.
2014 7 Corey Nelson 242 LB 2016 0 0 0 2 35 1.0 Oklahoma
Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
2013 1 Sylvester Williams 28 DT 2016 0 0 2 15 47 4.5 North Carolina
2013 2 Montee Ball 58 RB 2014 0 0 0 8 21 175 731 5 29 207 0 Wisconsin
2013 3 Kayvon Webster 90 DB 2016 0 0 0 4 44 1 South Florida
2013 5 Quanterus Smith 146 DE 2014 0 0 0 1 15 West. Kentucky
2013 5 Tavarres King 161 WR 2016 0 0 0 0 4 2 13 0 Georgia
2013 6 Vinston Painter 173 G 2014 0 0 0 0 3 Virginia Tech
2013 7 Zac Dysert 234 QB 0 0 0 Miami (OH)
Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
2012 2 Derek Wolfe 36 DT 2016 0 0 4 25 58 18.5 Cincinnati
2012 2 Brock Osweiler 57 QB 2016 0 0 0 5 24 252 414 2821 14 10 47 74 1 Arizona St.
2012 3 Ronnie Hillman 67 RB 2015 0 0 1 15 48 452 1842 12 67 431 1 San Diego St.
2012 4 Omar Bolden 101 DB 2015 0 0 0 5 56 Arizona St.
2012 4 Philip Blake 108 OL 2012 0 0 0 0 Baylor
2012 5 Malik Jackson 137 DT 2016 0 0 1 16 65 15.5 Tennessee
2012 6 Danny Trevathan 188 LB 2016 0 0 2 20 52 5 4.0 Kentucky
Year Rnd Player Pick Pos To AP1 PB St CarAV G Cmp Att Yds TD Int Att Yds TD Rec Yds TD Int Sk College/Univ
2011 1 Von Miller 2 LB 2016 2 4 5 58 75 1 65.0 Texas A&M
2011 2 Rahim Moore 45 DB 2015 0 0 3 20 64 9 1.0 UCLA
2011 2 Orlando Franklin 46 T 2016 0 0 5 34 76 Miami (FL)
2011 3 Nate Irving 67 LB 2015 0 0 1 9 62 3.0 North Carolina St.
2011 4 Quinton Carter 108 DB 2014 0 0 1 5 30 2.0 Oklahoma
2011 4 Julius Thomas 129 TE 2016 0 2 3 16 51 166 1885 30 Portland St.
2011 6 Mike Mohamed 189 LB 2015 0 0 0 4 26 1 California
2011 7 Virgil Green 204 TE 2016 0 0 1 3 74 2 3 0 42 453 2 Nevada
2011 7 Jeremy Beal 247 DL 2012 0 0 0 0 Oklahoma

Did Beethoven use better individual notes or was his brilliance revealed in how he grouped the same notes that were available to everyone else?

The funny part is his two biggest successes were winning a playoff game with a QB who couldn't throw (Tebow) and winning a Super Bowl with a completely washed up QB barely managing the game.

Meanwhile, two years earlier Manning blew away every record there was and they got destroyed in the Super Bowl. Just goes to show how defense is still the most important thing. And football doesn't make as much sense and people act like it does.