Alex missing reads
 

Just a few sample clips from the Steelers game.

First series with a little curl/flat concept. Slot sits right in the middle for a easy 5 yars, instead of forcing to JC.



Next play, it doesnt look like Alex gets any depth on his sprint out. Conley comes free over the middle.



Bottom of screen conley 1v1, gotta take that shot



If alex keeps his eyes down field kelce is wide open



I will add some more as I get more time.

Kelce again wide open



Tough play to make, but would be a huge play if he stays up and looks downfield



88 wide open off spot concept



I'm about half way through all their snaps, let me know if you guys like this stuff and I will keep digging.

This isn't going to end well unless you put out the "good" plays.

Just more deflection

Perhaps spoiler tag the videos to keep them from hosing up the browser.

Thank you dude. This is amazing and horrible at the same time.

That first Kelce miss on your second post... Gawsh.

DJ's Left Nut pointed it out....but that sprint out to the left with a right handed QB is a ****ing horrible playcall.

Hidden. Touchdowns.

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Like what you are doing? Yes.

Like what we are seeing? Not at all.

Perfect. We needed another Alex Smith thread.

Conley would be such a stud on most other teams. The guy is a legit WR

Andy Reid needs to start trusting in Alex Smith handoff skills more so than his passing skills lack there of.

No no....Alex lacks weapons.

water is wet

Watching those it looks like Alex needs to get the ball out in about 1.75 seconds.

73 was only shoved 3 yards into the backfield so yeah I guess that would mean Alex should have rolled out 5 yards deep. Alex has a lot to improve on but so does our O line.

This is what really frustrates me. Once Alex hits the scramble button, he gets tunnel vision like a mofo.

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On the bright side, at least he's not getting WRs killed with midfield throws.

My 11 year olds football coach does this at least 3 times a game. Left handed QB, rolls him out to the right. Dumbest play ever.

Sorry about that, will do spoilers next time!

#73 does get pushed back but usually on sprint/half roll type plays the QB gains some extra depth first then turns up field a bit to square hips to target. Looks like he just runs parallel on that play.

He's just bad. Plain old bad. Can't see anything.

Usually they roll/sprint to the wide side so there is more room for the routes to flood.

Thanks for posting these and if you can post more of his good and bad plays.

I understand that. But trying to make a throw like that is tough, especially for little kids.

True. At that level they aren't even really teaching footwork to the QB's yet.

and kelce would rape faces with a real qb

Once again flaunting your stupidity. This is a quality thread, with actual substance. Different from a bitch fest thread.

mmm, Tia Carrera.

Schwing!

Unfortunately, I'm to the point where I think Alex has peaked and doesn't have the balls to continue to improve while opposing defenses have it figured out how to stop him at the level he's playing at.

He's just too scared to pull the trigger on the plays top level QBs need to pull the trigger on.

Defenses are taking away his ability to run with the ball and are forcing him to play outside his comfort zone and he simply isn't responding.

He needs to be on a short leash after the bye week, but he won't be.

All these things happened before we traded for him

I'm almost to the point where I just stop watching any chiefs games due to Alex Smith.

I've despised the move ever since it was made, but the teams success has made their games somewhat tolerable. This shit is getting to be like watching Matt Cassel.

I hate listening speak he's so metro sexual he sounds like bundle of sticks

First play... You have to gamble on Charles cause there is only one player in the vicinity. The 3 yard gain in the middle would have been far less reward.

Third play .. pocket collapses, Conley is not the first read. Had he made that attempt early the free safety would have closed on it easily

Fourth play... They rushed only three yet somehow pocket collapses particularly in the middle. Pathetic.

He just needs a better line and some good WR's.

The 'Kelce wide open' play, ware had a better one on one look. It was just a bad pass.
You pause that video at :22 and you'll see Fisher got his ass handed to him is right up against Smith and clearly there was no passing lane to even hit kelce.

People need to let the coaches do the coaching...

Perhaps those reads are beyond the LOS... Maybe that's why Alex is missing them?

this has to be one of my mults

however, asp, what are you using to pull clips?

Kelce seems like he was open way before ware got past the LB, and seems like he has more separation as well.

Man.......... he sucks

NFL2GO account. They usually have the A22 film and commercial free versions the day after.

LOL

What, you guys want him to just throw a bunch of interceptions just to pad fantasy football stats? The guy is a winner.

Yeah because THIS makes a lot of sense.

But how are you getting links to individual plays?

You seem smart

Smith has pretty awful stats as a passer.

lol fantasy geek, the only stat that matters is wins and Smith is 50-24-1 since 2010.

Okay, so why are the Eagles 3-0 with a rookie QB in superficially the same type of offense?

lmao Wentz is throwing for 5 yards per completion, that's awful..

Considering you were the one leading the charge on Alex Smith's "this is the breakout" year in 2013, 2014, and 2015, if you're finally throwing in the towel on what he is, then it truly is over.

I think it is.

IMO the line is in good shape and Alex's play makes it much worse than it seems. The receivers are good with the possibility to be very deadly with the right QB. The backs are elite. The tight ends are top shelf.

Alex hasn't responded to defenses catching up to his style.

It seems like defenses are somewhat conceding the deeper passes to take away the qbs ability to run with it and he's simply not taking advantage of that.

Even though Smith was winning with Harbaugh as his boss, it is becoming much easier to see why Harbaugh made the change at QB and went in a different direction.

I am ready for that switch here. Can't set us back too far IMO. And it is apparent it is going to take an injury to Smith for that to happen, just like when Cassel was here as Pioli's boy.

Let's just hope the injury happens on the road this time instead of at Arrowhead.

Our line couldn't even stop a 3 man rush. Kelce AND Fisher together couldn't stop Harrison on a key play.

I'm not gonna lie, I hope Smith gets his shit figured out and plays well, but....

if he doesn't, we've got one hell of a backup who could potentially do big things.

Honestly, there's no excuses for this offense not to be better. We have some serious firepower with Maclin, Kelce, Hill, Conley, Charles, etc. Our OL is much better than they look right now.

If Smith struggles out of the bye, Foles deserves a look.

Flashback to the last time Nick Foles played with some real talent around him:

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There should be some real pressure on Smith right now, but I doubt there is.

Who knew that Gronk and Kelce are the same age at 27? So weird...

Jeff Fisher ruined Foles.

Well he didn't help, but Nick's got an apparent love for Reid and I'd bet he's fine now. The Rams had the worst surrounding cast in the NFL just about for him. Wouldn't be the case here.

But at the end of the day, either Alex will play better or will continue to suck but a change won't happen I doubt.

LMAO

The way they structured the contract of Foles seems to indicate that it's possible he takes over at QB at some point this year.

Andy liked him enough to draft him in the third...gotta think all the speed at WR would be better utilized with a guy that at least tries to push the ball.

Replace Foles' name with Murray and this is the same discussion as last year thanks to overreaction planet. He's a backup plan in the event of a Smith injury.

Get used to it.

And he did all of that with Reid calling plays! Has Reid forgotten how much fun that was?

2:25, look at him move in the pocket. Dumb throw but Alex never moves in the pocket that way.

We will really miss the 18 touchdowns per season stat.

Maclin > D Jax
Kelce > Celek/Ertz
Conley > Cooper
Hill is damn sure faster and probably better than their #3 was

I think Foles could do some awesome stuff if given the chance.

There's just too much damn speed and talent on this offense to be playing conservative football.

I asked for this in another thread.
Thank you.

Of course, people need to take it with a grain of salt, and realize every QB around the league miss guys a lot more than most people would suspect.

Need to look at what you posted still but I love when people post breakdowns on plays. Keep 'em coming- for Alex and anyone else!

only positive about Foles is he doesnt have a weird Rams/Eagles cult following of posters that joined this site cause of him. And that if he did play over Alex, then maybe the 49ers Alex Smith homers would just fade away into the darkness like the Pats Fraud Cassel ones did.

At the time i went wTF?!:cuss:

Good job putting together the clips you originally posted ! Much better than aimless back and forth and trying to discuss x or y play without the video, so thank you again!

My impressions of the clips you posted in the 1st 2 posts:

1. For a team that throws horizontally as much as we do, I can't for the life of me figure out why Smith seems to have 1 or 2 of these dump offs / outlet passes sail on him. Jamal just coming back and he could be throwing to a designated spot where the back is supposed to be, but it happens often enough that there's no way Alex isn't at fault his fair share.

2. Seriously? Fulton (?) escorted him right to Alex. I remember saying it in the GDT. That's on the line.

3. I wish he would have hit Maclin going across the middle moreso.

4. Totally on Alex. Presnap they show a blitz topside, Alex immediately barks up to the line. The Steelers fake the man showing and actually drop him into coverage. The line doesn't seem to have good communication or understanding their pickups with 2 backups in the interior and the entire line looks pensive and unsure about whose picking up who and seems to be poorly protecting a designated space.
However, flashing the overload by Pittsburgh clearly spooks Alex and he's never once comfortable in the pocket from the snap of ball. His feet are all over the place to the point he's never set to scan the field and make the throw.

5. Again, happy feet with that little stutter step and an arm pump so when he does throw his stance as the ball comes out is bunched up and the ball sails on him. Pocket was clean enough for him. He has to make that throw and on the mark.

6. Play broke down and a chewed up field they played a college game on the day before in the rain and wet field. Not what you hope to see, but hardly damning on Alex.

7. I don't like the play call, and Pittsburgh clearly sniffed out the play. Harris does free up, but Alex is going through his progressions and had already looked off that side of the field. Harris literally breaks open just as Alex pivots to look opposite field.

:D

Not sure I agree with your #2 take. That whole sliding pocket to the left with backside protection from Ware looks like it is set up perfectly for Smith to set up and throw. If he does, Fulton has his guy in good position. But Smith looks like he bails out on the play too early.

No, no, no. Hell no. This is the exact fan attitude that has enabled this bastard franchise to trot out recycled QB after recycled QB.

Draft and develop. 40 years of failure and people still don't get it.

Go back and look at every post that said "The offensive line isn't giving Smith enough time" or "Smith needs more weapons".

Now substitute Smith for Cassel and the exact same statements were repeated ad nauseum from 2009 to about October of 2012.

Kinda there with ya, brother. It's shit or get off the pot time.

He either takes the next step or takes a clipboard and a seat.

Just another ignorant comment. Smith's record vs. Cassel's? Take their 6 best seasons of stats and put them next to each other...it's not even close. But to validate your argument that Smith stinks you compare him to Cassel.

Smith and Reid have turned this franchise around, only small minded fans like yourself think otherwise.

When I right click on the video itself, it gives me an option "copy video link". Can't remember if I had to install a chrome plugin for that or not.

Amazing. Same passing concepts they run now. Crazy how foles keeps his eyes downfield even when moving out of the pocket, and takes chances with 1v1's deep.

Brutal, just brutal

Thanks for the thread, Aspen.

That's some high praise right there.

That was with Chip Kelly at HC.

Chip has forgotten.