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Meatloaf 10-08-2016 04:02 PM

Lucky to be 2-2
 
Kinda stating the obvious here, but given how lackluster our play has been, winning 2 games is akin to being a miracle. The D was obviously stellar vs the Jets, but beyond that, their play has been below par -- not entirely unexpected given our youth at corners. DL play has been spotty, as has LB play.

Offensively, OL has played like shit, runners have fumbled and WRs have dropped several balls. Top this off with a QB that is playing pretty much at bottom of league level, and one wonders how we even won 2 games!

Kinda tells me that we do have some talent on this team as teams with lesser talent would not have won 2.

That said, unless this team shores itself up on serval fronts, this is going to be a very underwhelming season. And, as usual in football, it all kinda starts with the QB. Alex has gotta up his game....and hopefully that'll carryover to the rest of the team as well.

Just siting here watching college football, and was spurred to share this most obvious reflection.

notorious 10-08-2016 04:07 PM

We are a healthy Keenan Allen away from being 1-3 with our division opponents being 4-0, 4-0, and 3-1.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-08-2016 04:07 PM

First year watching the NFL? Alot of teams have lucky wins. Look what happened in pile high week 1 and in zona. Both teams got lucky on missed kicks by guys that don't miss.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-08-2016 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 12472280)
We are a healthy Keenan Allen away from being 1-3 with our division opponents being 4-0, 4-0, and 3-1.

But they aren't and if we had Houston things are different anyway.

Discuss Thrower 10-08-2016 04:11 PM

Last I checked, Houston doesn't play on offense.

So no. Things wouldn't be different.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-08-2016 04:12 PM

That's mule tool level fail. So yeah his presence causing more Rivers and Brock pant shitting would have made a difference.

Hammock Parties 10-08-2016 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 12472281)
First year watching the NFL? Alot of teams have lucky wins. Look what happened in pile high week 1 and in zona. Both teams got lucky on missed kicks by guys that don't miss.

The creature is ready for you.

In58men 10-08-2016 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 12472284)
But they aren't and if we had Houston things are different anyway.

Everyone thinks we killed Jets. We only had 1 offensive TD that game. Back to being frauds again.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-08-2016 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASS11 (Post 12472299)
The creature is ready for you.

Oh he's a comin out after the Faid game no doubt. Just isn't ready yet. Needs souls to consume first.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-08-2016 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 12472301)
Everyone thinks we killed Jets. We only had 1 offensive TD that game. Back to being frauds again.

Yeah we won that one Denver style.

Meatloaf 10-08-2016 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 12472301)
Everyone thinks we killed Jets. We only had 1 offensive TD that game. Back to being frauds again.

Actually it makes it difficult for the O to score when the D does it beforehand. Plus, the Ware fumble at the pylon also corrupted offensive performance too. Odd game, so I sorta consider offensive stats in that one as an outlier.

Marcellus 10-08-2016 04:25 PM

I used to think this place had a higher than average level of football talk but more and more there are threads like this.

Meatloaf 10-08-2016 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12472333)
I used to think this place had a higher than average level of football talk but more and more there are threads like this.

Yeah, sorry Marcellus. Certainly not my best offering.

No much going on a the site today, so I thought I'd share a reflection or two.

Otter 10-08-2016 04:30 PM

I was watching the PSU vs Maryland game earlier (awesome game if a PSU fan) and was amazed how bad they make the Chiefs offense look. There's really no excuse the level of offense we have to watch from this shit show.</br></br> Quit playing scared already!!! ****ing pussies!!! :mad:

Easy 6 10-08-2016 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 12472280)
We are a healthy Keenan Allen away from being 1-3 with our division opponents being 4-0, 4-0, and 3-1.

****ing spooky isnt it

Otter 10-08-2016 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12472349)
****ing spooky isnt it

Heh, you're a seasoned vet. Don't act surprised.

Easy 6 10-08-2016 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter (Post 12472355)
Heh, you're a seasoned vet. Don't act surprised.

You overestimate me, I've DEFINITELY been caught off guard this year

In no way, shape or form did I expect this team to look so disjointed in the first quarter of the season... a hot start, even without Charles and Houston, was fully expected

But then I found out that...

Reid still loves him some screens

Smith really is just an average game manager

Our O linemens ankles and heads are made of paper mache

Ware is still a bull, unfortunately that means he has hooves for hands

Then I realized that...

Ford has 1 sack in 4 games

Bailey and Howard have turned back into pumpkins

Tambas knees have turned into chalk and Peters is susceptible to the deep ball

Other than that, we're doing great :D

pr_capone 10-08-2016 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 12472301)
Everyone thinks we killed Jets. We only had 1 offensive TD that game. Back to being frauds again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 12472312)
Yeah we won that one Denver style.

Denver has a Super Bowl ring from last year... nothing about them is fraudulent.

notorious 10-08-2016 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter (Post 12472355)
Heh, you're a seasoned vet. Don't act surprised.

LMAO



:(



So true.

notorious 10-08-2016 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12472376)
You overestimate me, I've DEFINITELY been caught off guard this year

In no way, shape or form did I expect this team to look so disjointed in the first quarter of the season... a hot start, even without Charles and Houston, was fully expected


Nobody here expected it.

Hammock Parties 10-08-2016 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12472376)
You overestimate me, I've DEFINITELY been caught off guard this year

In no way, shape or form did I expect this team to look so disjointed in the first quarter of the season... a hot start, even without Charles and Houston, was fully expected

But then I found out that...

Reid still loves him some screens

Smith really is just an average game manager

Our O linemens ankles and heads are made of paper mache

Ware is still a bull, unfortunately that means he has hooves for hands

Then I realized that...

Ford has 1 sack in 4 games

Berry is apparently still on chemo

Bailey and Howard have turned back into pumpkins

Tambas knees have turned into chalk and Peters is susceptible to the deep ball

Other than that, we're doing great :D

your choice to be a fan

srvy 10-08-2016 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 12472301)
Everyone thinks we killed Jets. We only had 1 offensive TD that game. Back to being frauds again.

So defense doesnt count? Also If I remember right we had a couple taken off the board.

Hammock Parties 10-08-2016 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srvy (Post 12472390)
If I remember right we had a couple taken off the board.

"hidden TDs"

Otter 10-08-2016 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12472376)
You overestimate me, I've DEFINITELY been caught off guard this year

In no way, shape or form did I expect this team to look so disjointed in the first quarter of the season... a hot start, even without Charles and Houston, was fully expected

But then I found out that...

Reid still loves him some screens

Smith really is just an average game manager

Our O linemens ankles and heads are made of paper mache

Ware is still a bull, unfortunately that means he has hooves for hands

Then I realized that...

Ford has 1 sack in 4 games

Berry is apparently still on chemo

Bailey and Howard have turned back into pumpkins

Tambas knees have turned into chalk and Peters is susceptible to the deep ball

Other than that, we're doing great :D

It's just a football team. There's college NCAA football, NHL hockey, NCAA wrestling. I'm not even sure how ya get pissed or surprised at this point.

Easy 6 10-08-2016 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter (Post 12472406)
It's just a football team. There's college NCAA football, NHL hockey, NCAA wrestling. I'm not even sure how ya get pissed or surprised at this point.

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Marcellus 10-08-2016 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meatloaf (Post 12472336)
Yeah, sorry Marcellus. Certainly not my best offering.

No much going on a the site today, so I thought I'd share a reflection or two.

My bad actually I was just in a shit mood this morning. I apologize for complaining about you trying to talk football.

Im an asshole sometimes.

Meatloaf 10-08-2016 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12472597)
My bad actually I was just in a shit mood this morning. I apologize for complaining about you trying to talk football.

Im an asshole sometimes.

Not a prob, Maecellus. And hey, we're All assholes sometimes! Hope all is well.

kccrow 10-08-2016 08:04 PM

Nice basic thread. I'll offer 10 things I think are the biggest problems based on my eyeball test. If anyone can dispute them (or confirm) with A-22, I'm all for it.

Offense

1. Mitch Morse is playing bad. He's allowing pressure up the middle and isn't sustaining blocks. Is he less aggressive in staying at center after the concussions in 2015?

2. Zach Fulton is a terrible guard. Too often allows quick pressure and needs help from the center too frequently. Fulton's best position is clearly center, where he can operate in a phone booth.

3. Alex Smith is missing far too many reads. He's creating artificial pressure on himself by either not stepping up into a clean pocket, or rolling out into the tackle arcs. More often than not, Alex is not under pressure by NFL standards. The offensive line is playing far better than Alex is making them look, especially the tackles.

4. Spencer Ware needs to get the fumbling back under control.

5. Play calling has been suspect in the red zone, where Reid has been too cute with the passing game.


Defense

1. Sutton is asking Peters, a perfect press and cover 2 type corner, to play off man far too frequently.

2. The scheme needs to change from single high safety to two deep. The youth at CB is getting exposed and there isn't over-the-top help to make up for it.

3. Justin March is out of position. He should be playing DJ's role, and that isn't happening this season. He's getting washed out and can't get through the blocks. It really is time to see what either Sam Barrington or Sio Moore can offer to help shore up the gashing in run defense.

4. Allen Bailey should be on the bench. He's getting no pressure and being washed out of plays. His counterpart, Howard, is playing below average to make matters worse.

5. Dee Ford is useless playing from the left side because he doesn't have the strength to take on right tackles. He doesn't look overly useful anywhere, but he certainly needs a shot at ROLB sooner than later. Hali should be able to play either side, so I don't understand not making the swap.

DaneMcCloud 10-08-2016 08:10 PM

No NFL team is "lucky" to win 2 games out of four, especially when the two losses are on the road against 2015 playoff teams.

Get real, idiots.

kccrow 10-08-2016 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12472627)
No NFL team is "lucky" to win 2 games out of four, especially when the two losses are on the road against 2015 playoff teams.

Get real, idiots.

Gotta beat playoff teams to be a contender. Chiefs are a pretender.

Meatloaf 10-08-2016 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 12472620)
Nice basic thread. I'll offer 10 things I think are the biggest problems based on my eyeball test. If anyone can dispute them (or confirm) with A-22, I'm all for it.

Offense

1. Mitch Morse is playing bad. He's allowing pressure up the middle and isn't sustaining blocks. Is he less aggressive in staying at center after the concussions in 2015?

2. Zach Fulton is a terrible guard. Too often allows quick pressure and needs help from the center too frequently. Fulton's best position is clearly center, where he can operate in a phone booth.

3. Alex Smith is missing far too many reads. He's creating artificial pressure on himself by either not stepping up into a clean pocket, or rolling out into the tackle arcs. More often than not, Alex is not under pressure by NFL standards. The offensive line is playing far better than Alex is making them look, especially the tackles.

4. Spencer Ware needs to get the fumbling back under control.

5. Play calling has been suspect in the red zone, where Reid has been too cute with the passing game.


Defense

1. Sutton is asking Peters, a perfect press and cover 2 type corner, to play off man far too frequently.

2. The scheme needs to change from single high safety to two deep. The youth at CB is getting exposed and there isn't over-the-top help to make up for it.

3. Justin March is out of position. He should be playing DJ's role, and that isn't happening this season. He's getting washed out and can't get through the blocks. It really is time to see what either Sam Barrington or Sio Moore can offer to help shore up the gashing in run defense.

4. Allen Bailey should be on the bench. He's getting no pressure and being washed out of plays. His counterpart, Howard, is playing below average to make matters worse.

5. Dee Ford is useless playing from the left side because he doesn't have the strength to take on right tackles. He doesn't look overly useful anywhere, but he certainly needs a shot at ROLB sooner than later. Hali should be able to play either side, so I don't understand not making the swap.

Good observations, kccrow.

O-1 It does appear that Morse is getting his sh*t pushed in. Can't imagine how concussions would play into that, but whatever/however, he needs to upgrade his play.

O-2 Many have noted that Fulton has heavey feet; I'd agree with that. Personally, I think his best attribute is his flexibility (albeit with limitations). So he can sub in at both G positions and C. If Morse doesn't get his act together quickly, I'd switch him out for Fulton.

O-3 Right now, Alex is making EVERYONE around him look worse. QBs can do that. And yeah, he's run into a few sacks, can't find squat when he rolls out, and in general is play like crap. So, I'd agree that the OL has bore some of this brunt.

O-4 Ware's gonna be ok. Kid has the right attitude and will clean things up.

O-5 Andy outthinks himself. Power football is foreign to him.

D-1 Don't really have an observation on this; I think Peters has been all anyone could ask for.

D-2 Not sure cover-2 suits both of our safeties very well; need to mix it up though.

D-3 March seemed to be much better in preseason. Was he playing DJs position then? I don't recall. But I'd agree that he's not suited to take on heavy blocks.

D-4 Whole DL play has been up and down. We don't seem to ever run many games up front. I'd like to see more of that. As per Bailey, he had a better game last game, but not overwhelmingly so. I'd like to see more Chris Jones in there.

D-5 I'm pretty much of the opinion that Dee Ford is useless at just about any position. The guy is simply not dedicated to the game of football. At best he appears JAG to me.

DaneMcCloud 10-08-2016 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 12472630)
Gotta beat playoff teams to be a contender. Chiefs are a pretender.

Shut up.

The Chiefs are 4 games into the season.

The season isn't determined after 4 games and if you don't think that playoff teams feed off of shitty teams, you're dumb as ****.

The Patriots have owned that shitty division for a decade. Same goes for the Colts.

Wipe your bloody vag.

RunKC 10-08-2016 09:22 PM

Oakland
NO
Indy
Jacksonville
Carolina
TB

After Oakland that's 5 games against teams with losing records

Hammock Parties 10-08-2016 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12472720)
Oakland
NO
Indy
Jacksonville
Carolina
TB

After Oakland that's 5 games against teams with losing records

Remember when a losing team almost beat us at Arrowhead?

TigeRRUppeRRcut 10-08-2016 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12472692)
Shut up.

The Chiefs are 4 games into the season.

The season isn't determined after 4 games and if you don't think that playoff teams feed off of shitty teams, you're dumb as ****.

The Patriots have owned that shitty division for a decade. Same goes for the Colts.

Wipe your bloody vag.

How this place is filled with so many idiots is beyond me. We could be a wild card team and go 9-7, get hot, and win the SB. This team is a playoff contender on paper, they just need to get healthy and execute.

F***ing Clay's 3rd grade logic is spreading like wild fire, just like it did last year before we strung off 11 wins and all these morons shut their mouths

Hammock Parties 10-08-2016 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12472727)
Clay's 3rd grade logic is spreading like wild fire

https://thespeshblog.files.wordpress...if?w=677&h=424

Easy 6 10-08-2016 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12472727)
How this place is filled with so many idiots is beyond me. We could be a wild card team and go 9-7, get hot, and win the SB. This team is a playoff contender on paper, they just need to get healthy and execute.

F***ing Clay's 3rd grade logic is spreading like wild fire, just like it did last year before we strung off 11 wins and all these morons shut their mouths

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASS11 (Post 12472730)

Both of you are the problem

Buzz 10-08-2016 10:06 PM

Reid shut down Smith taking off and running the ball, the dude is lost. Andy hamstrung him and the whole offense with his stupid play calling.

kccrow 10-09-2016 03:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12472692)
Shut up.

The Chiefs are 4 games into the season.

The season isn't determined after 4 games and if you don't think that playoff teams feed off of shitty teams, you're dumb as ****.

The Patriots have owned that shitty division for a decade. Same goes for the Colts.

Wipe your bloody vag.

Can I wipe it on your face? Something tells me you love the smell of rotten puss in the morning.

Gonzo 10-09-2016 05:02 AM

If my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle.

ping2000 10-09-2016 06:11 AM

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"Where's everyone at?"

"It's the bye week Andy."

"Damn! I have some new screens I wanted to try."

"Hey, I have the keys to the midget's suite. Let's order some ribs and watch porn on the jumbotron again."


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