At the halfway point of 2016, who is the best team in the NFL?
 

Still one game to go on Monday night, but we're pretty much at the halfway point of the season. Only 5 AFC teams have a winning record. The NFC isn't doing too much better. Believe it or not, the Chiefs have the 4th best record in the league. Early favorites Pittsburgh and Minnesota have faltered, Dallas is hot, Oakland is contending for the first time in a while, and the Patriots just traded away one of their most talented defenders. Who is the best team in the NFL? Poll coming.

************Patriots

Patriots AFC
Cowboys NFC

Currently I forecast a Cowboys vs Patriots Super Bowl.




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Where's the Cleveland Browns option?
They're not bad. Just misunderstood.

Patriots and Cowboys are easily the class of the NFL.

Next tier down is a jumbled mess of "who knows?"

THis is why i think the playoffs are gonna be lit as a mother effer. Every team has a strength and a weakness *as far as any team besides NE*

Anyone can really have a shot as things look

As much as I want to say Chiefs, I really think it's New England.

As long as Brady plays, everyone else is throwing dice.

I don't see how anyone could possibly pick any teams other than Dallas and New England. But lo and behold, look at the poll results so far. The Chiefs, despite a horrible game yesterday have 3 Homer votes. And the Donks and Faiders each have a vote. I assume that KnowShit has voted, because I doubt that any of the rest of the resident Donk fans are that delusional right now. One vote for Houston?? Houston??? Really???

We're the most balanced, have the best depth and the best home field advantage...


I say Chiefs.

It's Patriots first, Dallas second... bottom line at this point.

Someone is still drunk.

IF Houston returns to 90% of his old self and we get Charles back for the playoffs, this team can beat anyone and win the Super Bowl.

The scary part (for the rest of the league) is this roster stays together next year and is full of young players under a huge and highly touted coaching staff (meaning the roster should continue to improve every year). With a GM that has a great eye for talent.

The future in KC is very bright.

I'm taking the Seahawks over the Cowboys. I think their defense is far better and has the speed to stop the rushing attack.

Looks good to me :clap:

The key for the AFC teams behind NE... getting NE away from home in the playoffs. It's tight right now, which is good.

Chiefs vs. Seahawks SB.

Why?

Baring injuries, we are the most balanced AFC team.

Super Bowl




The Patriots* are best team and Cowboys but I think things can work out for another team.

New England with a healthy/pissed off Tom Brady is the best team in the NFL until proven otherwise.

I hope we get a shot again at them in the playoffs... There wont be any 7 minute drives to gift them a victory this year..

We will have Houston back... Brady will be wrecked...

New England and Dallas.

It's not even about their 7-1 records but about the way each team is winning, at home and on the road.

That would be ****ing awesome! My brother is a huge Seachicken fan. We would have a lot of fun with that SB matchup.

New england and Dallas.

The Cowboys have a potential all time OL and a great rb. Defense is meh, but the offense keeps them off the field.

All I hope is that the Patriots stay healthy. With that, I'll gladly take my chances against the field for the rest of the year.

Certain teams can certainly beat the Patriots, though. Being the best team doesn't make you unbeatable, as the Rams learned in '01 and the Pats learned in '07 (among others).

We want that shot at you in the playoffs again...

Who picked Houston?

LMAO

They're playing great right now, no doubt... but I'm thinking its a bit premature the way so many are forecasting the Cowboys to the SB

Playoff intensity, talent level and tempo is a different animal and there is no guarantee that Prescott will be up for that challenge as a rookie... I mean, it happens (Roethlisberger), but not very often

Also, 4 of their 7 wins came against the Bears, Browns, Niners and Redskins... not exactly a Murderers Row

How dare the Cowboys be good with a rooky quarterback they drafted?

Chiefs would never attempt this kind of behavior drafting and starting a quarterback same year.

The Patriots just didn't find a way to cheat against the Giants both games but don't worry they will find another way to *win* a Super Bowl before BB calls it quits.

The voting indicates a New England-Kansas City Super Bowl with an exhibition game to be played a couple of weeks later.

After Pittsburgh knocks off the Cowboys next week a few opinions will change.

Hate to say it but its the NEP

Patriots

















everyone else













Cleveland

Charles is done man my god.

And the Patriots will be happy to provide it...


....at Gillette. Hope to see you guys there at the AFCCG!

:rolleyes:

I'll just drop this link here for you...

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...n-for-playoffs

Maybe a better poll question would have been who is the second best team in the league (or in the AFC for that matter).

I'll see your post and I'll raise you

http://lubbockonline.com/stories/021...21106085.shtml

Really? So there's a chance?



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Fair enough. I remain hopeful even though I don't think he will ever be as good as he was. But a fresh 85% Charles going into the playoffs could be huge (crossing fingers, toes, and eyes)!

NE is the best team in the NFL right now. Any votes for the rest are homerific at best.

even at 75% Charles would have been better then west was on Sunday.


We really need to start building some depth at RB next year.

It will be at arrowhead my friend.

Chiefs have:

at Carolina
TB
at Donx
at Falcons
Raiders
Titans
Donx
at Chargers


Patriots (with one game in hand as of now) have:

Seahawks
at Niners
at Jets
Rams
Ravens
at Donx
Jets
at Dolphins


I like my chances!

Barring significant injury NE will continue their Rape 2016 tour all the way to the Lombardi.

Why aren't Chargers listed? Best 4-5 team of all time.

I have to agree. The Patriots should steamroll through that schedule. Seahawks are the toughest game left. HFA is all but guaranteed. I will be happy with a first round bye for the Chiefs. Who knows? Maybe we can shock the world and come out of Foxborough with a win in January. Unlikely, but stranger things have happened.

I think that your Chargers are about to go on a little winning streak that will put them right in the playoff hunt. At he Texans, Dolphins and Bucs at home the next 3 games should all be wins. Browns are a gimme. And I think that the Chargers can win against the Panthers and the Fade. Head into KC on week 17. KC has clinched a bye, but NE has clinched HFA, so the Chiefs rest their starters and you guys get another win to finish out 11-5. Drop one, and your still 10-6, which should get you in the playoffs while the Donks are on the outside looking in at 4th place in the division with a 8-8 record.

I hate Dallas... more than any team ever, but it's hard to not be impressed with the streak they're on and how they've done it with rookies at QB/RB leading the way. Dak has truly impressed and he's getting it done without leaning on Dez.

The Patriots are going to be the odds on favorite for the umpteenth time as long as they avoid major injury.

They are 3 games up in the division and nobody is going to touch them there.

Patriots (with one game in hand as of now) have:
Seahawks
at Niners
at Jets
Rams
Ravens
at Donx
Jets
at Dolphins

Seahawks will be tough, they might sweat a bit @ NJY and @ MIA... hopefully, Denver can create issues for them in Denver, but not if they play as they did last night.

The Patriots will soundly defeat the 49ers, Jets, Rams, Ravens and Dolphins... that's 13 wins, and that's HFA. That's the AFC title game in NE.

Can the Raiders win there? I dunno... I don't see any other contenders winning there. Barring injury, they're the team from the AFC.

Problem is, SD will let every team they play compete for the win.

@ HOU, @ CAR... Raiders and Chiefs - those are going to be 4 very hard games for the Chargers to win. They have absolutely no room for error.

Miami and Tampa will give them everything they want as well.

Patriots win another Super Bowl NFL is rigged and or they cheated (again).


I don't see how they can be so good for so long.


They've had sanctions and draft picks taken away with star player suspensions. Just how bad is the rest of the league to allow them to have so much success?

New...wait for it...England. New England.

It's their division. It's shit and has been shit for the better part of two decades. Hats off to the Pats. They have made it that way. The Pats force the other teams to make frequent changes that just don't work.

Cowboys will put Romo back in at QB and he'll start shltting games away again.

I still think Dallas will get figured out a bit. And I think one of Arizona, Carolina, or Seattle will figure it all out and go on a long winning streak.

Part of it is that they are willing to do things that other teams won't.

They have no problem cutting popular players, not re-signing FA's, etc. They firmly believe in Next Man Up - and that anyone who buys into the system will be successful in the system.

Hell, they just traded arguably their best defensive player in the middle of the season. Imagine us trading Hali in the middle of 2014 because he was freelancing and about to become a part time player?

Other teams are ****ing reeruned, and hang on to players to long, dole out huge contracts that they'll never see value on, etc.

And the teams in the AFCE are the worst about it - they are chasing their tails trying to keep up, making more mistakes in the process.

On every ESPN show today at some point they talked about the Raiders possibly being the biggest threat to NE in the playoffs, and on every one of those segments someone refuted the idea with the Chiefs being the biggest threat.

I don't expect anyone to truly threaten NE unless they have an explosive offense. Because even Denver isn't stopping them at this point - especially with NE having HFA.

Not going to be shocked when the "**** you, NFL" Tour 2016 ends in Houston with a 18-1 Patriots team.

That's what we said last year.... the Patriots aren't as talented this season as last, IMO.

When all is said and done, health is going to play a HUGE role. Who knows who teams may or may not have come playoff time. The Chiefs need to finally have their core pieces healthy to have a chance, and if the Patriots are missing a piece or two, it'd go a LONG way.

The Patriots had like 17 guys on IR last year, IIRC.

There are no healthy teams in January, I'm growing very tired of that excuse.

Yes, the NFL keeps tryign to **** the Patriots to create "parity", but it doesn't seem to work too well.

Honestly, I think BB is light years ahead of the other coaches in the NFL, and Brady is the best ever.

Gronk being possibly the best TE ever puts them into the cat-bird's seat, so long as they stay reasonably healthy.

NFL rule changes have eliminated other ways to win, to some degree. Power-rush team a la the 80s Redskins? Too ****ing bad, you're not winning it all. Great on special teams? yeah, well, fewer kickoff returns and no way to rush a field goal kicker really. Great defense? Well, better be REALLY great, because we're neutering defense.

If there were 5 formulas to get to the SB in the 80s, there's like 2 now.

Seems like the Patriots had some important guys, like Brink maybe? Out at the end of the season and got them baxk over the bye week.

It's really not. Indy had the same with the AFC South. Packers with NFC North. Patriots won/loss record outside the division is about the same as inside.

It's Belichick and Brady. People underrate Belichick as GM. Like MASSIVELY underrate him. His salary cap maneuverings and draft pick manipulations are amazing. Does he HIT on a higher percentage of draft picks than most? Nope. But he builds a system that takes advantage of every possible method to acquire talent, and always has enough, plus Tom MF Brady.

Can you name a single one of them for NE? I won't even count Charles, but did they hurt as bad as losing Houston, Maclin, Morse, or LDT?

No...

Pats had stupid bad luck with health last year. They were 10-0 to start, but the injuries piled up and went 6-4 or whatever down the stretch. So far this year, having GOOD luck. If that keeps up, look out NFL!

I was wrong.

It was 19 guys on IR.

Including two starting OL, Jerod Mayo, Blount, Develin, Dion Lewis and Dom Easley.

Sure, just their starting RB, 3rd down back, fullback, two starting OL, Dom Easley and Jerod Mayo.

Just your typical JAG's.

:facepalm:

Spot on.

Eh, they're good players, but at that point, they weren't a huge detriment.

If they were without Gronk and Edelman, and had no Chandler Jones, it would have been different.

But injuries happen and thats a big part of the playoffs, whose the least injured.

They cut Easley this offseason, Mayo was average at best last year, fullbacks are used maybe 10% of the snaps, and they always have a capable 3rd down back.

No one on that list even comes close to Houston or Maclin. Not fucking close.

Yep, the whole team sucks.

Thanks for the conversation!

I would like to see the Chiefs with their full deck go into New England this year (minus the guys already on IR, they aint' coming back).

Solid points. Those divisions have been marred with far too many bad coaching decisions, knee jerk firings and crappy drafts.

Bills, Jets, Dolphins, Vikings... over the last 15 years, how many new QBs have those teams had? Cutler and Stafford have been around a while, but they haven't lifted those teams up.

Legit QBs (Manning, Brady, Rogers) have owned those divisions. It's all about the QB and the lack of having one.

Dude, don't put words in my mouth.

Houston is our best player and Maclin was our best offensive weapon last year. Game changers.

That would be like NE not having Gronk and Chandler Jones. Not the dudes you just named. Get real.

Easley got cut a year later = trash.

If we lost two OL at ANY time, this place would be flipping shit.

19 guys on IR. That's only 35% of the active roster. 35% of next man up.

This place bitches and moans when a guy or two are out.

This team doesn't need Charles at this point.

We need a healthy Maclin, Ware, and Houston. Just like last season, that all-pro crew healthy can beat anyone.

Indy has a solid quarterback that for sum fluke reason the Colts ended up having the #1 pick and luxury to draft a prospect like Andrew Luck but they don't have a clue to how to build a team around him and they are wasting his talents. I don't feel sorry for him or Colts but to say all you need is a quarterback I think there is much more to it but I want a quarterback from the draft to build a successful team around. The Colts also probably over paid this talent so they handcuffed themselves to protect their assets with quality line and give him weapons.

I think they are better off than we are in terms of quarterback but if they can't protect him their investment wont be paying off in dividends. I think it's important get the quarterback first and build your team around him but having the luck to have a guy there is a big part of finding that quarterback. Although developing quarterbacks is something the Patriots must be good at because they have plugged in other quarterbacks in Brady absence and still find success so this is all confusing me other than I want to draft a Quarterback.