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Deberg_1990 11-07-2016 05:33 PM

Why is Jared Goff still on the Rams bench??
 
I dont get it? Why did they draft him if they dont believe in him???



Jared Goff must be terrible.

That's pretty much the only conclusion that one can draw at this point after Los Angeles Rams head coach Jeff Fisher once again declined to put Goff in the game on Sunday, even though as of halftime against Carolina, his team hadn't scored in six straight quarters. Not only that, they were playing at home and coming off a bye week in which this year's No. 1 overall pick reportedly got more reps with the first team offense. What more could Fisher ask for than that?


If the argument is that Fisher didn't want to insert Goff in the middle of a game or at a time when he didn't get reps all week and know he was going to be the starter going into the game, that's somewhat understandable. But only if Goff starts now. As in, this week.

Fisher said after Case Keenum threw four interceptions in a loss to the New York Giants in London in Week 7 that he'd be more likely to make a change at wide receiver than he would at quarterback. He said after the game on Sunday that he didn't hear the fans chanting "We Want Goff," even though everybody else in the Coliseum did.

At this point, the only thing more inexplicable than Case Keenum's job security is Jeff Fisher's job security.

In each case, the decision maker seems perfectly content with a slightly below average existence, a rarity in pro sports and with good reason.

Fisher's only possible reasons for keeping Keenum under center instead of Goff at this point is Fisher's belief that either Goff isn't ready or that Keenum gives the Rams the best chance to win. Either way, it doesn't bode well for Goff and his future with the Rams.

If he's still not ready to play, that should be awfully troubling to the Rams fans out there that watch the Cowboys' fourth-round rookie Dak Prescott lead his team to a 7-1 record or the Eagles' No. 2 overall pick Carson Wentz throw for close to 400 yards on the road in an effort to keep his team in the thick of the playoff race. Even Cody Kessler, a third-round pick for the winless Browns, looks like a competent NFL quarterback out there on a weekly basis. Yet Goff may still not "be ready"?

And even if we buy that Goff isn't quite ready to play, whatever that means, what does that say about him? What are the odds that a guy that evidently isn't ready to play midway through his rookie season goes on to have a storied career as a franchise quarterback? It's not a real encouraging start that this thing is headed in that direction.

The other possibility is simply that Keenum still gives the Rams the best chance to win. Based on the team and Keenum's performance in four straight losses, what does that say about Goff? We're talking about a journeyman quarterback in Keenum that has eight interceptions during this four-game stretch and went over 115 minutes of game time before finally getting his team a touchdown with a pass to Kenny Britt on Sunday. That's almost two full games without getting in the end zone.

The Browns evidently believe Kessler gives them a better chance to win than veteran Josh McCown. The Eagles felt the same way about Wentz and Chase Daniel. Heck, even the Cowboys think Prescott is the right guy for the job in Dallas instead of Tony Romo, even though they won't admit it publicly yet.

But Goff can't give the Rams a better chance than Keenum?

Fisher's reluctance to play the guy the team mortgaged its future to obtain brings up more questions than answers at this point.

When will this lack of faith start to affect Goff's confidence?

Just as importantly, what message is Fisher sending to the rest of the team as it relates to Goff?

Players want to win and if they agree with Fisher that Keenum gives them the best chance to do so, then they likely aren't complaining. But again, what does that say about Goff? And really, how much worse can you get than not being able to score any touchdowns?

No matter what the logic or reasoning is to this point, it all circles back to Goff either not being good or not being ready, either one of which is highly concerning.

It feels like Fisher has been trying to buy both himself and Goff as much time as possible by delaying the inevitable, but that time is now up.

It's time for Goff to show what he's got.


http://www.sportsonearth.com/article...-fisher-week-9

jjchieffan 11-07-2016 05:35 PM

Why? That's easy. Because Jeff Fisher is a moron. No other explanation.

Hoover 11-07-2016 05:40 PM

We should trade Alex Smith for Goff

ToxSocks 11-07-2016 05:41 PM

Because he sucks?

O.city 11-07-2016 05:42 PM

They're not gonna rush him. I actually think it's the right choice, if he's not ready. You invested that much in the guy, don't rush.

Rain Man 11-07-2016 05:44 PM

I assume it's alphabetical order. Case comes before Jared.

Saccopoo 11-07-2016 05:45 PM

Goff came out of the Hal Mumme gimmick Air Raid offense that Sonny Dykes runs. His numbers were incredibly skewed coming out of college and he was going to require a complete retooling to get him ready for the next level.

(Go look at the insane numbers that Bears QB Davis Webb is putting up this season.)

He ain't starting because he basically has to re-learn the position before they throw him to the wolves of NFL defenses on a weekly basis.

Iconic 11-07-2016 05:46 PM

Because he's simply not ready? There's a lot of reasons to shit on Fisher for his ineptitude. I don't think not playing his rookie quarterback and throwing him to the dogs is one.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 11-07-2016 05:47 PM

How many quarterbacks have actually been year 1 starters and had success?
I wouldn't risk crushing his confidence. Let him observe and develop his mechanics with the coaching staff. The season is lost anyways so you're going for good draft picks.

Deberg_1990 11-07-2016 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 12537216)
Why? That's easy. Because Jeff Fisher is a moron. No other explanation.

I feel like at this point he thinks he's trying to 'outsmart' the rest of the NFL.

If I remember right he did the same thing with McNair back in the mid 90s?? Didn't McNair sit for a year or two?

DaneMcCloud 11-07-2016 05:51 PM

Having seen him in person, he's a stick figure. He looks leaner than Brodie Croyle. He's also an "Air Raid" offense guy and not ready to play under center.

That said, Fisher's going to lose his job this year so Goff is probably better off waiting until they hire an offensive minded coach like Shanahan or McDaniels.

Fisher sucks.

DaneMcCloud 11-07-2016 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 12537242)
I feel like at this point he thinks he's trying to 'outsmart' the rest of the NFL.

If I remember right he did the same thing with McNair back in the mid 90s?? Didn't McNair sit for a year or two?

McNair played in 6 games during his first two seasons and didn't start 16 games until his third.

That said, trading a ton of picks for a guy that's going to sit for a year, when the team only has him for 5, seems foolish to me.

Especially if he's coached by Jeff Fisher.

SAUTO 11-07-2016 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12537239)
How many quarterbacks have actually been year 1 starters and had success?
I wouldn't risk crushing his confidence. Let him observe and develop his mechanics with the coaching staff. The season is lost anyways so you're going for good draft picks.

Dak, wentz just to name two from this season alone.

DaneMcCloud 11-07-2016 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12537326)
Dak, wentz just to name two grin this season alone.

Wentz was my guy. I still can't believe the Rams passed on him.

SAUTO 11-07-2016 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12537329)
Wentz was my guy. I still can't believe the Rams passed on him.

When they traded up he was their guy.

No one will say what changed it. I'm wondering if stan might have called that shot

Skyy God 11-07-2016 07:06 PM

Like most things Jeff Fisher, it probably involves trying to keep his job despite being a terrible coach.

RunKC 11-07-2016 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12537326)
Dak, wentz just to name two from this season alone.

Dak looks good bc he has the best OL in the NFL giving him ample time to throw. He'd look like ass in LA

Buehler445 11-07-2016 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12537413)
Dak looks good bc he has the best OL in the NFL giving him ample time to throw. He'd look like ass in LA

I will say his poise in the pocket is pretty good. But after the 50th time he got blown up, it probably wouldn't be.

l4z4rd 11-07-2016 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12537326)
Dak, wentz just to name two from this season alone.

Dak has the best O Line in the league and no team has been able to stop their running game which opens up the field for him.

PunkinDrublic 11-07-2016 07:38 PM

Because that's 8-8 shit!

Marcellus 11-07-2016 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 12537216)
Why? That's easy. Because Jeff Fisher is a moron. No other explanation.

/thread

ping2000 11-07-2016 07:46 PM

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...374b1c3f63.jpg

PutQuinnIn 11-07-2016 07:49 PM

Jeff Fisher says he's not ready. Fisher also said he didn't hear 80,000 fans yesterday chanting "we want Goff!"

SAUTO 11-07-2016 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12537413)
Dak looks good bc he has the best OL in the NFL giving him ample time to throw. He'd look like ass in LA

What did that have to do with the question asked?

The Franchise 11-07-2016 07:51 PM

At this point.....it's worthless to start him. Let him get an offseason in the weight room and work on his mechanics. Hopefully next year he won't have Fisher coaching him....and he'll be better off.

Valiant 11-07-2016 09:00 PM

I just think he is learning the nfl speed and a nfl playbook. GUy didn't have that in college. He is behind because of it. They do not want to throw him to the wolves. Fisher is old school, probably still believes sit a rookie qb two years.

I believe sink or swim, especially if the starter sucks. BUt there are still nfl coaches that do not. FISHER was not going to be there long anyway. MAybe owners are setting up the scapegoat for shitty season?

Red Dawg 11-07-2016 09:05 PM

I doubt they dump Fisher just to hand Goff to a coach that doesn't want him. Didn't they give amongst ransom to get him? No way he gets canned.

lewdog 11-07-2016 09:06 PM

I firmly believe Goff is too reeruned to handle an NFL playbook this year.

Did any of you watch Hard Knocks?!

wazu 11-07-2016 09:25 PM

If starting Goff is a bad idea, then he never should have been drafted where he was. I think they should start him, though.

DaneMcCloud 11-07-2016 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 12537768)
If starting Goff is a bad idea, then he never should have been drafted where he was. I think they should start him, though.

This has been Milkman's rationale for years: Draft a QB and make him sit.

And as I've always said, it's ****ing bullshit.

If a team takes a guy in the Top 5, let alone gives up a **** ton of draft choices, he NEEDS to start immediately.

This isn't 1970 or even 2005.

BryanBusby 11-07-2016 09:50 PM

I'm okay with letting a guy start, even with the Rams situation, but only if Keenum was effective.

Keenum isn't, so they need to see what Goff can do. If anything, starting the young kid could of bought him more time. Fisher is just ****ing dumb.

New World Order 11-07-2016 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ping2000 (Post 12537484)


Funny because it's true


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