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Bowser 11-13-2016 12:37 PM

Get Albert Wilson off this team
 
He brings absolutely zero to the Chiefs being on the roster. Nothing. No positives to speak of, at all.

Flush that turd and laugh as you watch him try to save himself by hanging on to the sides of the bowl with his alligator arms.

ToxSocks 11-13-2016 12:38 PM

Would rather see that Robinson kid.

Ragged Robin 11-13-2016 12:38 PM

he's the midget receiver version of Knile Davis and/or AIDS

Easy 6 11-13-2016 12:39 PM

He has had WAY more chances than anyone deserves, he should be cut after the game and replaced by DAT

hometeam 11-13-2016 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12549987)
He has had WAY more chances than anyone deserves, he should be cut after the game and replaced by DAT

DAT shouldnt even be on the team to replace him.

Deberg_1990 11-13-2016 12:41 PM

He caught a sweet TD last week

BlackHelicopters 11-13-2016 12:41 PM

Send Harris with him.

Gravedigger 11-13-2016 12:41 PM

Alligator armed that pass with the pressure coming, does it all the time.

ToxSocks 11-13-2016 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 12549999)
DAT shouldnt even be on the team to replace him.

I bet DAT woulda caught that ball....

Bowser 11-13-2016 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 12549999)
DAT shouldnt even be on the team to replace him.

Possibly true, but even DAT would be an improvement over Wilson.

****ing TigerBob might be an improvement over Wilson.

DaneMcCloud 11-13-2016 12:42 PM

Wilson has sucked ass for two straight years. I didn't think he should have made the team this year, period.

As for Harris, he sure has shitty hands for a former basketball player. I'm done with him. Put in O'shag's or Travis.

Ragged Robin 11-13-2016 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 12550017)
Possibly true, but even DAT would be an improvement over Wilson.

****ing TigerBob might be an improvement over Wilson.

Robinson.. Hill.. really anyone else can play instead of him

Easy 6 11-13-2016 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 12549999)
DAT shouldnt even be on the team to replace him.

He cant possibly be any worse

Bowser 11-13-2016 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12550028)
As for Harris, he sure has shitty hands for a former basketball player. I'm done with him. Put in O'shag's or Travis.

Yeah, this too. He can kick rock with Shags and the other tall cracker waiting to get in.

CupidStunt 11-13-2016 01:00 PM

What an irrelevant player to make a thread about.

Step 1: Get Alex Smith off the team
Step 2: ...

MTG#10 11-13-2016 01:23 PM

Take Demetrius Harris with him

rabblerouser 11-13-2016 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 12550554)
Take Demetrius Harris with him

That's exactly what I was coming in to post : Harris is an even more wasted spot than Wilson. At least Wilson SOMETIMES catches the ball when it hits him square in the hands...

JohnnyHammersticks 11-13-2016 01:45 PM

Edward Scissorhands, meet Albert Pussyhands

In58men 11-13-2016 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CupidStunt (Post 12550213)
What an irrelevant player to make a thread about.

Step 1: Get Alex Smith off the team
Step 2: ...

Boom

rabblerouser 11-13-2016 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CupidStunt (Post 12550213)
What an irrelevant player to make a thread about.

Step 1: Get Alex Smith off the team
Step 2: ...

Andy Reid would rather die.

Newton runs for another first down...

Mr. Laz 11-13-2016 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CupidStunt (Post 12550213)
What an irrelevant player to make a thread about.

Step 1: Get Alex Smith off the team
Step 2: ...

Nick Foles was the same ****ing thing.


Our next QB will be the same too because REID ..........

CupidStunt 11-13-2016 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12550985)
Nick Foles was the same ****ing thing.


Our next QB will be the same too because REID ..........

Of course. Nick Foles is absolute trash. But no. If the Chiefs finally, for the first time in their pathetic history, drafted a top talent QB, Reid would do just fine with him. Just like he did McNabb, who wasn't even that good. But he had some talent unlike Smith.

GloucesterChief 11-13-2016 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CupidStunt (Post 12551014)
Of course. Nick Foles is absolute trash. But no. If the Chiefs finally, for the first time in their pathetic history, drafted a top talent QB, Reid would do just fine with him. Just like he did McNabb, who wasn't even that good. But he had some talent unlike Smith.

MCNabb had guys like Freddie Mitchell his whole career. Imagine a whole WR corps of Albert Wilson.

-King- 11-13-2016 03:17 PM

Yeah I'm over him. At least Tyreek Hill takes his snaps for the majority of the time. If Maclin is out again, just let DAT take the snaps Wilson got this game.

scho63 11-13-2016 03:18 PM

I would get rid of Harris first!

Bowser 11-13-2016 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CupidStunt (Post 12550213)
What an irrelevant player to make a thread about.

Step 1: Get Alex Smith off the team
Step 2: ...

Yep, Alex Smith is holding back a hidden gem like Albert Wilson. ****ing nailed it.

Pasta Little Brioni 11-13-2016 04:02 PM

Alligator Wilson

ThaVirus 11-13-2016 04:05 PM

I've defended him in the past but I can't anymore. He adds little to no value.

Buehler445 11-13-2016 04:06 PM

So I was at the Faid game a couple years ago. He wasn't getting many snaps then, but I was really damned impressed with him. I thought he had a big future.

I've given up.

Saccopoo 11-13-2016 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 12549978)
Would rather see that Robinson kid.

I wonder why we haven't seen Demarcus at all other than special teams?

Wilson has been an exaggerated version of what he was last season. He's short arming passes, running bad routes, etc.

Bwana 11-13-2016 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 12550007)
Send Harris with him.

As I mentioned in the game thread, both are useless and a waste of air. Do we have anything on the practice squad that's worth a damn?

Kman34 11-13-2016 04:08 PM

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Sandy Vagina 11-13-2016 04:10 PM

Been unhappy with him for a long time now. He should be no more than a WR4 on any team.

Jmac is WR1 - Conley and Hill rotate as WR2-3 - DAT is WR4 - Wilson is WR5

TEX 11-13-2016 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 12552605)

:clap: ROFL

Saccopoo 11-13-2016 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 12552598)
As I mentioned in the game thread, both are useless and a waste of air. Do we have anything on the practice squad that's worth a damn?

Demarcus Robinson was playing quite well on special teams in the preseason, but he's been a ghost on the actual offensive side of the ball. And Conley still isn't running good routes and he can't gain separation from the defensive back off the LOS.

I know that people think Travis Kelce is a god around here, but he's been bad the past two weeks as well offensively. Our tight end situation doesn't look super good at this point. They are going to have to address it in the 2017 Draft if Harris is the best we have at the #2 spot and Kelce continues to drop catchable balls.

DaNewGuy 11-13-2016 04:14 PM

He was looking good in practice

Bowser 11-13-2016 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12552612)
Been unhappy with him for a long time now. He should be no more than a WR4 on any team.

Jmac is WR1 - Conley and Hill rotate as WR2-3 - DAT is WR4 - Wilson is WR5

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Wilson needs to be shown the door to give way to someone that doesn't suck on the field and isn't completely below average in ability and potential. He can go be WR 9 in Saskatchewan.

DaneMcCloud 11-13-2016 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 12552297)
Yep, Alex Smith is holding back a hidden gem like Albert Wilson. ****ing nailed it.

LMAO

Alex was by no means good today but for ****'s Sake, can the receivers learn how to catch the ****ing football?

Wilson missed a perfectly placed ball. Harris has hands of stone, was replaced by Ross Travis, who again, had hands of stone. Hill and Conley were the only receivers that actually earned their paychecks yet for some reason, Conley isn't a big of the game plan.

Where the hell was DAT? I'd have rather seen him out there than Albert Wilson.

This WR corp still has a long, long ways to go.

-King- 11-13-2016 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 12552591)
I've defended him in the past but I can't anymore. He adds little to no value.

Yep, this.

Sandy Vagina 11-13-2016 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 12552635)
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Wilson needs to be shown the door to give way to someone that doesn't suck on the field and isn't completely below average in ability and potential. He can go be WR 9 in Saskatchewan.

Was trying to be realistic about what could? happen.. but sure. They can cut him loose and I would smile.

RealSNR 11-13-2016 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 12552626)
Demarcus Robinson was playing quite well on special teams in the preseason, but he's been a ghost on the actual offensive side of the ball. And Conley still isn't running good routes and he can't gain separation from the defensive back off the LOS.

I know that people think Travis Kelce is a god around here, but he's been bad the past two weeks as well offensively. Our tight end situation doesn't look super good at this point. They are going to have to address it in the 2017 Draft if Harris is the best we have at the #2 spot and Kelce continues to drop catchable balls.

"Continues to" would imply that he's had a chronic problem.

I can't recall a single dropped pass this season other than the one today that Kelce has had.

Kelce is fine. He's a legitimate #1 TE. I can't think of many teams in the NFL who wouldn't trade their top guy for Kelce straight up.

Saccopoo 11-13-2016 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12552637)
LMAO

Alex was by no means good today but for ****'s Sake, can the receivers learn how to catch the ****ing football?

Wilson missed a perfectly placed ball. Harris has hands of stone, was replaced by Ross Travis, who again, had hands of stone. Hill and Conley were the only receivers that actually earned their paychecks yet for some reason, Conley isn't a big of the game plan.

Where the hell was DAT? I'd have rather seen him out there than Albert Wilson.

This WR corp still has a long, long ways to go.

Bingo.

DAT is a myth and Wilson just isn't very good. Hill is the same type of player that both are and is already better in the offense than either by a large margin.

Conley cannot get separation from defensive backs off the line of scrimmage (which was a problem for him at the college level as well.)

They really need to upgrade the WR position in the 2017 draft, because it's a real weak point on this team and is going to hamstring the offense regardless of who is the starting QB.

OldSchool 11-13-2016 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 12552597)
I wonder why we haven't seen Demarcus at all other than special teams?

Wilson has been an exaggerated version of what he was last season. He's short arming passes, running bad routes, etc.

Robinson can't get open vs NFL CBs.

Sandy Vagina 11-13-2016 04:22 PM

Kelce is ****ing awesome. Bad drop early on. Dude is excellent though, and needs to be targeted more. No, rephrase. Andy needs to design more plays that get Kelce targeted first or at least 2nd on plays.

RealSNR 11-13-2016 04:22 PM

Supposedly Demetrius Harris is around because he's a good blocker? That's what I've been told?

I remember when Jason Dunn was here in Kansas City. He was highly valued as a blocker as well. Guess why we look back fondly on his time in KC. Because HIS awful pass-catching prowess was limited to just blocking.

If Harris is that good, then make him Jason Dunn. Don't try to pretend like he's a legit second TE option. Because he's not.

Smith still throws to him. Foles threw to him. And Andy still runs plenty of plays where Harris is a receiving option.

Stop that. Stop it all.

Rain Man 11-13-2016 04:23 PM

If a guy tries and stinks, I'm more forgiving of him than a guy who won't even try. I feel like Albert Wilson doesn't even try sometimes. It's pretty clear that he's afraid of contact, so he's never going to fight for a ball or even reach for a ball if he thinks there's a chance of taking a hit. It's even more obvious when you then see Tyreek Hill making every contested catch and never giving up on a play.

OldSchool 11-13-2016 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 12552659)
Bingo.

DAT is a myth and Wilson just isn't very good. Hill is the same type of player that both are and is already better in the offense than either by a large margin.

Conley cannot get separation from defensive backs off the line of scrimmage (which was a problem for him at the college level as well.)

They really need to upgrade the WR position in the 2017 draft, because it's a real weak point on this team and is going to hamstring the offense regardless of who is the starting QB.

They honestly need to stop being cute and start forcing the ball to guys like Kelce and Hill.

Kelce has shown that he can get open against any kind of coverage.

Hill has shown the same and, more importantly, is the biggest threat to turn a short pass into a big play.

Bowser 11-13-2016 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 12552661)
Robinson can't get open vs NFL CBs.

The put him in motion, stack him up in that quad formation, put him in the backfield....

There are ways of getting him open. I mean hell, they find ways to get Hill open, and he's usually the smallest guy on the field.

Sandy Vagina 11-13-2016 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 12552671)
If a guy tries and stinks, I'm more forgiving of him than a guy who won't even try. I feel like Albert Wilson doesn't even try sometimes. It's pretty clear that he's afraid of contact, so he's never going to fight for a ball or even reach for a ball if he thinks there's a chance of taking a hit. It's even more obvious when you then see Tyreek Hill making every contested catch and never giving up on a play.

completely agree.. this is THE biggest point of anger from me..

OldSchool 11-13-2016 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 12552676)
The put him in motion, stack him up in that quad formation, put him in the backfield....

There are ways of getting him open. I mean hell, they find ways to get Hill open, and he's usually the smallest guy on the field.

The reason why Wilson is in over Robinson is because Wilson, like it or not, is the most experienced WR, outside of Maclin, within this system.

That's one thing I dislike about Reid. It results in plays being called and designed for someone like Wilson who is a #4 at best on any decent WR squad.

Sandy Vagina 11-13-2016 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 12552674)
They honestly need to stop being cute and start forcing the ball to guys like Kelce and Hill.

Kelce has shown that he can get open against any kind of coverage.

Hill has shown the same and, more importantly, is the biggest threat to turn a short pass into a big play.

Yes. And Smith better get involved in making Kelce THE guy. Kelce is beginning to get frustrated with his role and/or QB.

They need to fix this quickly. Kelce does not have the temperament to be ****ed with.

OnTheWarpath15 11-13-2016 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12550028)
Wilson has sucked ass for two straight years. I didn't think he should have made the team this year, period.

As for Harris, he sure has shitty hands for a former basketball player. I'm done with him. Put in O'shag's or Travis.

I don't understand why Harris wasn't replaced by Travis weeks ago.

notorious 11-13-2016 04:29 PM

Conley has been open quite a few times only to have Smith shit his pants.


It's getting really old.

Buehler445 11-13-2016 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12552637)
LMAO

Alex was by no means good today but for ****'s Sake, can the receivers learn how to catch the ****ing football?

Wilson missed a perfectly placed ball. Harris has hands of stone, was replaced by Ross Travis, who again, had hands of stone. Hill and Conley were the only receivers that actually earned their paychecks yet for some reason, Conley isn't a big of the game plan.

Where the hell was DAT? I'd have rather seen him out there than Albert Wilson.

This WR corp still has a long, long ways to go.

That pass to Wilson was PERFECT. Absolute dime.

RobBlake 11-13-2016 04:31 PM

should have traded for marshall

Buehler445 11-13-2016 04:32 PM

And it should be noted that every WR has drops. But they're exagerated with Smith because he doesn't go Horizontal much.

Mr. Laz 11-13-2016 04:32 PM

shitty passes
dropped passes
stupid penalties
shitty playcalling

Our offense is just a dump right now.

Mr. Laz 11-13-2016 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobBlake (Post 12552702)
should have traded for marshall

yep, should have kept Streater instead of Wilson too.


DaT is a freaking waste of a roster spot as well.

Saccopoo 11-13-2016 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12552651)
"Continues to" would imply that he's had a chronic problem.

I can't recall a single dropped pass this season other than the one today that Kelce has had.

Kelce is fine. He's a legitimate #1 TE. I can't think of many teams in the NFL who wouldn't trade their top guy for Kelce straight up.

He's dynamic and a mismatch, but he doesn't have the best hands.

He's a legit #1 TE, but he's not a Witten or Olsen. And there is nobody on the roster behind him. He's a bit overvalued by the fans (everyone loves the goofball personality), and he is a potential offensive threat but he's not a consistent player like the top tight ends in the league. He hasn't developed his blocking skills either to be considered at those guys level.

He's fine and I really wouldn't look at drafting a guy to threaten him as the #1 guy, but they do have to upgrade the depth of the TE position past him.

OldSchool 11-13-2016 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 12552694)
I don't understand why Harris wasn't replaced by Travis weeks ago.

Because Travis also drops the ball a lot and doesn't block nearly as well as Harris can. Harris has made some pretty nice plays for the team, but he just has inconsistent hands.

notorious 11-13-2016 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 12552713)
He's dynamic and a mismatch, but he doesn't have the best hands.

He's a legit #1 TE, but he's not a Witten or Olsen. And there is nobody on the roster behind him. He's a bit overvalued by the fans (everyone loves the goofball personality), and he is a potential offensive threat but he's not a consistent player like the top tight ends in the league. He hasn't developed his blocking skills either to be considered at those guys level.

He's fine and I really wouldn't look at drafting a guy to threaten him as the #1 guy, but they do have to upgrade the depth of the TE position past him.

Put Kelce on an aggressive offense and he puts up 80 and 1100 with 10+TDs.

Mr. Laz 11-13-2016 04:37 PM

Hard to believe that Harris is the only blocking TE that we could get this offseason.

I still think they are holding on to him hoping that he stops being stupid and his athleticism makes him a blue chip type guy.

Kelce + (non-stupid)Harris = outstanding set of TEs


I'm not sure it's ever going to happen though.

Mr. Laz 11-13-2016 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 12552720)
Put Kelce on an aggressive offense and he puts up 80 and 1100 with 10+TDs.

If only Bowe had a QB, he would put up Calvin Johnson numbers.



:fire:

WilliamTheIrish 11-13-2016 04:47 PM

Watching Harris is likening watching Johnathon Hayes. Every ball seems to clank off him like it's hitting steel.

Saccopoo 11-13-2016 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 12552760)
Watching Harris is likening watching Johnathon Hayes. Every ball seems to clank off him like it's hitting steel.

Dude could block like a nofo though. Just burried guys. But he did have hands of stone.

Easy 6 11-13-2016 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12552663)
Supposedly Demetrius Harris is around because he's a good blocker? That's what I've been told?

I remember when Jason Dunn was here in Kansas City. He was highly valued as a blocker as well. Guess why we look back fondly on his time in KC. Because HIS awful pass-catching prowess was limited to just blocking.

If Harris is that good, then make him Jason Dunn. Don't try to pretend like he's a legit second TE option. Because he's not.

Smith still throws to him. Foles threw to him. And Andy still runs plenty of plays where Harris is a receiving option.

Stop that. Stop it all.

Yeah, Harris can take his ass on to the European Basketball League or something... he belongs anywhere but on a football field, and ditto on the "but he is a great blockerz!"

He aint shit at anything, its time to go

Easy 6 11-13-2016 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 12552671)
If a guy tries and stinks, I'm more forgiving of him than a guy who won't even try. I feel like Albert Wilson doesn't even try sometimes. It's pretty clear that he's afraid of contact, so he's never going to fight for a ball or even reach for a ball if he thinks there's a chance of taking a hit. It's even more obvious when you then see Tyreek Hill making every contested catch and never giving up on a play.

Als big hero Steve Smith laughs at him then shoves him into a locker... honestly cannot remember a receiver of ours being SO scared of taking a lick

farmerchief 11-13-2016 06:35 PM

Hill should get all of his snaps, unless the coaches are worried he would get too beat up physically?

JohnnyHammersticks 11-13-2016 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 12552716)
Because Travis also drops the ball a lot and doesn't block nearly as well as Harris can. Harris has made some pretty nice plays for the team, but he just has inconsistent hands.

I'd say Harris's hands are very consistent. The ball seems to bounce right off them every single time.

HemiEd 11-13-2016 07:21 PM

I think Wilson is a star compared to Harris. He needs to be gone, now.

-King- 11-13-2016 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12552712)
yep, should have kept Streater instead of Wilson too.


DaT is a freaking waste of a roster spot as well.

Yeah but Wilson has 3 times as many catches and 3 times as many yards as Streater so...

Both of them shouldn't have made the roster. I thought Wilson would be at least as good as he was last year but he's taken a clear step back and right now is just a waste.
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Mr. Laz 11-13-2016 07:33 PM

If we need an extra blocker why not just convert a backup OG or OT to our blocking TE.

Shottenheimer did that several time i forget the guy who became a fan favorite by catching a touchdown pass. LMAO

DaneMcCloud 11-13-2016 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12553283)
If we need an extra blocker why not just convert a backup OG or OT to our blocking TE.

Shottenheimer did that several time i forget the guy who became a fan favorite by catching a touchdown pass. LMAO

Joe Valerio

He was a shit 2nd round pick

-King- 11-13-2016 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12553283)
If we need an extra blocker why not just convert a backup OG or OT to our blocking TE.

Shottenheimer did that several time i forget the guy who became a fan favorite by catching a touchdown pass. LMAO

Because that's a waste. Even if Harris can't catch, teams still have to account for him going out on a route.

If the extra player is literally only there to block then you're just making things easier for the defense.
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Mr. Laz 11-13-2016 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12553284)
Joe Valerio

He was a shit 2nd round pick

:clap:

there was another one after Valerio too

RunKC 11-13-2016 07:46 PM

This team desperately needs a #2 TE that is an all around player. I would use a 2nd rd pick if it meant getting a good player.

Especially if Alex is the QB next year.

Willie Lanier 11-13-2016 08:37 PM

I Didn't read the thread, but I agree with the core concept...

Go away Albert Wilson, you're not wanted

DaNewGuy 11-13-2016 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willie Lanier (Post 12553468)
I Didn't read the thread, but I agree with the core concept...

Go away Albert Wilson, you're not wanted

Speak for yourself

DaNewGuy 11-13-2016 08:39 PM

Wilson set Jamaal up for what could be his last TD In a Chiefs uni, show some respect

Willie Lanier 11-13-2016 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 12552661)
Robinson can't get open vs NFL CBs.

Says who? You?

Robinson has every trait you scout for in a wr


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