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cdcox 12-18-2016 03:13 PM

Reid's style finally caught up with him
 
I will give Reid credit for a ton of regular season wins. But this time his style of doing just enough to squeak out a win cost us a game against a clearly inferior team. If this were a play off game I would melt down. For now, meh...

Marcellus 12-18-2016 03:14 PM

We didnt lose the Super Bowl, nothing has caught up to anyone yet.

Take a pill.

jimidollar 12-18-2016 03:14 PM

This is a preview.

dj56dt58 12-18-2016 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12626551)
We didnt lose the Super Bowl, nothing has caught up to anyone yet.

Take a pill.

no shit u have to get there first

-King- 12-18-2016 03:14 PM

It is what it is... The offense deserved this loss. Should have been a blow out but nope. Reid gotta Reid.
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notorious 12-18-2016 03:15 PM

Smith INT.


DAT being a dumb****


Oline not doing their job.


This game should have NEVER come down to Andy.

carcosa 12-18-2016 03:16 PM

He ate too much BBQ and diarrhea'd away a first round bye. ****ing moron.

BigCatDaddy 12-18-2016 03:16 PM

Been saying this forever.. martyball 2.0

cdcox 12-18-2016 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12626551)
We didnt lose the Super Bowl, nothing has caught up to anyone yet.

Take a pill.

I say "meh" and you tell me to take a pill?

TambaBerry 12-18-2016 03:17 PM

This is exactly what everyone roasted me for last week, this will not win us games.

BlackHelicopters 12-18-2016 03:17 PM

Reid= Marty 2.0

BlackHelicopters 12-18-2016 03:18 PM

Need more Vicodin and vodka

ChiefsCountry 12-18-2016 03:19 PM

Funny how this team looks when it doesn't score on defense and special teams.

B2chiefsfan 12-18-2016 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 12626611)
Reid= Marty 2.0



This



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TambaBerry 12-18-2016 03:19 PM

Maybe we don't want a home playoff game, lost to two mediocre teams at home

hometeam 12-18-2016 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12626551)
We didnt lose the Super Bowl, nothing has caught up to anyone yet.

Take a pill.

Might have lost us a home playoff game and bye. Not that we dont have more to do, but now we are no longer in control of our own destiny.

baitism 12-18-2016 03:21 PM

We would be better off losing out, missing the playoffs, firing Reid, and getting rid of Smith.

This team has weapons. We just need people that can utilize them.

Simply Red 12-18-2016 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 12626644)
Might have lost us a home playoff game and bye. Not that we dont have more to do, but now we are no longer in control of our own destiny.

dude we may not win another game - you have much more confidence than I do.

KranzDictum 12-18-2016 03:21 PM

There was no pass rush today. Houston looked slow and plodding and I didn't notice Ford on the field until late.

Marriotta is bad but he was able to pick apart the weak secondary late and his WR's made catches they were dropping earlier.

Reid is afraid to open up his O when he is up 7. This game should have been put away early and then late when they had a chance alex's poor downfield accuracy hurt him with the INT in the endzone.

Tenn took away the outside and LOS throws today and forced alex to go downfield. He hit Macklin on one play for a chunk of yardage but that was more Macklin adjusting and making a play and Tenn having bad CB's but when alex needed to step into a throw and hit a tight window in the endzone he made a bad throw.

Then without a pass rush a bad Marriotta was able to make enough throws to put them into FG range.

Reerun_KC 12-18-2016 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 12626611)
Reid= Marty 2.0

And thankful for this.....

Never ever will you have a disappointing end to a season.

Reid will Reid and that will result in zero heartbreak.

He's a comfortable good BBQ and tailgate coach.

Simply Red 12-18-2016 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 12626643)
Maybe we don't want a home playoff game, lost to two mediocre teams at home

coaching lost that.

dannybcaitlyn 12-18-2016 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baitism (Post 12626658)
We would be better off losing out, missing the playoffs, firing Reid, and getting rid of Smith.

This team has weapons. We just need people that can utilize them.

This.

Psyko Tek 12-18-2016 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12626551)
We didnt lose the Super Bowl, nothing has caught up to anyone yet.

Take a pill.

this kind of shit gets us one and done, if we make it there
could have locked up a playoff birth with a win
take a suppository orally

fan4ever 12-18-2016 03:23 PM

Reid - Why I'll never be hyped about this team.

Trivers 12-18-2016 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baitism (Post 12626658)
We would be better off losing out, missing the playoffs, firing Reid, and getting rid of Smith.

This team has weapons. We just need people that can utilize them.

Step away from the keyboard.

Come back when you either are sober or gain brain cells.

Molitoth 12-18-2016 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 12626551)
We didnt lose the Super Bowl, nothing has caught up to anyone yet.

Take a pill.

It's funny how you and a few other homers here can constantly defend everything the chiefs do, every regime.

baitism 12-18-2016 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trivers (Post 12626706)
Step away from the keyboard.

Come back when you either are sober or gain brain cells.

Why exactly do you think I am wrong? Smith is the obvious weak point of this offense. Tyreek Hill, maybe the most explosive Chiefs player ever, never got the ball the last three quarters. Reid is a damn moron.

I would take Bryce Petty over Alex Smith. At least Petty has upside.

-King- 12-18-2016 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baitism (Post 12626658)
We would be better off losing out, missing the playoffs, firing Reid, and getting rid of Smith.

This team has weapons. We just need people that can utilize them.

Nah I think we would be better off winning games, making the playoffs and hopefully winning games there. That's just me though.
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DaFace 12-18-2016 03:35 PM

Yep, I was thinking this same thing. It's successfully won us a couple games this year, but this time it came back to bite us.

Shitty run game and shaky Alex doesn't help, but it's pretty obvious our play calling goes into a shell any time we get up by 10+ points.

Sandy Vagina 12-18-2016 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 12626538)
I will give Reid credit for a ton of regular season wins. But this time his style of doing just enough to squeak out a win cost us a game against a clearly inferior team. If this were a play off game I would melt down. For now, meh...

Everything about this post is a WIN.

#truth

-King- 12-18-2016 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 12626815)
Yep, I was thinking this same thing. It's successfully won us a couple games this year, but this time it came back to bite us.

Shitty run game and shaky Alex doesn't help, but it's pretty obvious our play calling goes into a shell any time we get up by 10+ points.

It's to the point I hate going up a lot early. That's the stupid logic I have to go through I have to go through during games.
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Jerm 12-18-2016 03:37 PM

The timeout after letting 10 + secs. run off
Punting at the opp. 37 yrd. line
Garbage play calling
Stupidly trying to ice Succop and giving him a free kick

Yeah....not exactly a stellar performance....

Sandy Vagina 12-18-2016 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hometeam (Post 12626644)
Might have lost us a home playoff game and bye. Not that we dont have more to do, but now we are no longer in control of our own destiny.

not even concerned about HFA.

KC doesn't really seem like a team that thrives at home any more than on the road.

carcosa 12-18-2016 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12626842)
not even concerned about HFA.

KC doesn't really seem like a team that thrives at home any more than on the road.

damn, it's true :(

You can't lose to the Bucs and Titans and claim to be a good home team. Sure, both teams are on the rise, but they're not elite yet. And both games came down to decisions and plays that real contenders have to make.

I AM SAD

-King- 12-18-2016 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 12626872)
damn, it's true :(

You can't lose to the Bucs and Titans and claim to be a good home team. Sure, both teams are on the rise, but they're not elite yet. And both games came down to decisions and plays that real contenders have to make.

I AM SAD

Eh that's stupid. Look back on the past Superbowl winners and see the teams they lost to down the stretch. They pretty much all lost to teams much worse than the Bucs and Titans.
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Easy 6 12-18-2016 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 12626572)
Smith INT.


DAT being a dumb****


Oline not doing their job.


This game should have NEVER come down to Andy.

So true, plenty of blame to spread around the offense... but I'm still fed up with the line more than anyone else today

They consistently get ZERO push in short yardage situations, all damn year

Do these mfers not have a leg day at the gym?

Red Dawg 12-18-2016 03:47 PM

This team can't run the ball and can't stop the run. That is the difference from last season. We suck at running the ball really ****ing bad.

jspchief 12-18-2016 04:01 PM

It's not a "style". The offense just isn't very good. We can pretend that they they turn it off and on like a light switch, but anyone with common sense knows that's not true.

ChiTown 12-18-2016 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 12626538)
I will give Reid credit for a ton of regular season wins. But this time his style of doing just enough to squeak out a win cost us a game against a clearly inferior team. If this were a play off game I would melt down. For now, meh...

100% This

carcosa 12-18-2016 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 12626882)
Eh that's stupid. Look back on the past Superbowl winners and see the teams they lost to down the stretch. They pretty much all lost to teams much worse than the Bucs and Titans.
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EH YOU'RE STUPID


BITCH!!!!!!!

-King- 12-18-2016 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 12626991)
It's not a "style". The offense just isn't very good. We can pretend that they they turn it off and on like a light switch, but anyone with common sense knows that's not true.

Why is it so different when we have a lead then?
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Trivers 12-18-2016 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 12626998)
100% This

Exactly. Nicely stated.

-King- 12-18-2016 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 12627001)
EH YOU'RE STUPID


BITCH!!!!!!!

I didn't say you were stupid. Just that that logic is. Superbowl teams lose to worse teams every year.
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TEX 12-18-2016 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 12626538)
I will give Reid credit for a ton of regular season wins. But this time his style of doing just enough to squeak out a win cost us a game against a clearly inferior team. If this were a play off game I would melt down. For now, meh...

Yep. Won a few that could have gone the other way this season. This one did go that way. Still sucked when Sucup was short, but got another try and nailed it for the win.

Because Chiefs

TEX 12-18-2016 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 12626909)
This team can't run the ball and can't stop the run. That is the difference from last season. We suck at running the ball really ****ing bad.

We sure do when we get into position where we must. Which is why I don't take this team seriously. The record says contender, but we can't run it or stop it when we have to, and that says pretender.

chiefforlife 12-18-2016 04:13 PM

Kelce and Tyreek have been killing it lately and we barely used either one.

Thats just ****ing stupid!!

KCTitus 12-18-2016 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 12626538)
I will give Reid credit for a ton of regular season wins. But this time his style of doing just enough to squeak out a win cost us a game against a clearly inferior team. If this were a play off game I would melt down. For now, meh...

Yep...at this point, make the playoffs and win...

scho63 12-18-2016 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 12627067)
Kelce and Tyreek have been killing it lately and we barely used either one.

Thats just ****ing stupid!!

It sure was!

HemiEd 12-18-2016 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 12626590)
Been saying this forever.. martyball 2.0

Marty would have kicked the field goal.

Kman34 12-18-2016 04:37 PM

At least put your best players (Hill & Kelce ) in on the most important play of the game to create some doubt you might not run the ball..... BUT NOOOOOOO.....

KCTitus 12-18-2016 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 12627157)
Marty would have attempted the field goal and missed...

FYP

tecumseh 12-18-2016 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 12627067)
Kelce and Tyreek have been killing it lately and we barely used either one.

Thats just ****ing stupid!!

Kelce in particular seemed to disappear. Andy lamed it up and the OP nailed. Playoofs?

OctoberFart 12-18-2016 04:48 PM

Lol

kcpasco 12-18-2016 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OctoberFart (Post 12627217)
Lol

I wish AIDS and Cancer upon you.

Easy 6 12-18-2016 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OctoberFart (Post 12627217)
Lol

Thats not what your mom said last night

stevieray 12-18-2016 04:50 PM

wait a minute...so Andy Reid calling timeout is what gave succup a second kick?

Sandy Vagina 12-18-2016 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 12627229)
wait a minute...so Andy Reid calling timeout is what gave succup a second kick?

yep

Mr. Laz 12-18-2016 05:46 PM

Colts game all over again

we go into the 3rd quarter with the lead and control of the game.

Andy gets nervous or stupid ... shuts it down, playing not to lose. Tells the defense that it's all your problem.

Other team fights and scratches their way back for the win.

Andy called the same ****ing plays back then. He thinks that sideways passing etc runs the clock and protects the lead. All it really does is give the other team a chance. Just like the prevent defense does a lot of the time.

stevieray 12-18-2016 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12627386)
Colts game all over again

we go into the 3rd quarter with the lead and control of the game.

Andy gets nervous or stupid ... shuts it down, playing not to lose. Tells the defense that it's all your problem.

Other team fights and scratches their way back for the win.

Andy called the same ****ing plays back then. He thinks that sideways passing etc runs the clock and protects the lead. All it really does is give the other team a chance. Just like the prevent defense does a lot of the time.

Said pretty much the same thing to my wife.

he never goes for the jugular.

NJChiefsFan 12-18-2016 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12626842)
not even concerned about HFA.

KC doesn't really seem like a team that thrives at home any more than on the road.

Are you concerned about getting a bye?

Mr. Laz 12-18-2016 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 12627397)
Said pretty much the same thing to my wife.

he never goes for the jugular.

Well tell your 'wife' that he is a lucky fellow

good luck to you both

Mr. Laz 12-18-2016 06:42 PM

Curious to know how many 3rd downs we ran without Hill and Kelce even on the field?


How many crucial running plays did we call for ****ing West instead of Ware?

HemiEd 12-18-2016 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCTitus (Post 12627169)
FYP

Remember that one against the Bears at the one and it ended up costing home field? At Buffalo for the AFC CG.

HemiEd 12-18-2016 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 12627229)
wait a minute...so Andy Reid calling timeout is what gave succup a second kick?

yes

stevieray 12-18-2016 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12627594)
Well tell your 'wife' that he is a lucky fellow

good luck to you both

WTH?

Easy 6 12-18-2016 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 12627801)
WTH?

Laz is probably a little too deep into Grandpas cough medicine, or something

WilliamTheIrish 12-18-2016 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 12627791)
Remember that one against the Bears at the one and it ended up costing home field? At Buffalo for the AFC CG.

Johnathon Hayes. We threw the ball to Johnathon ****ing Hayes. Well, Kreig did. Out of the EZ. The pass was low. Right where it should have been. And what does Hayes do? He stone handed it, juggled it, popped the ball high in the air and the Bears Jeremy Lincoln picks it off. All we needed was a first down.

Coincidentally, we were up 14-0 in that game also and lost 19-17.

That was after Albert Lewis picked off a terrible pass by (ugh) Jim Harbaugh at the Chiefs 2.

I can't even....

Mr. Laz 12-18-2016 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 12627801)
WTH?

I totally read that wrong. LMAO


I thought you forgot the "S"

New World Order 12-18-2016 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 12626611)
Reid= Marty 2.0


Yep

Hammock Parties 12-18-2016 11:13 PM

This team has gone from winning solidly early season, to barely squeaking by thanks to turnovers and fluke plays, and now losing despite winning the turnover battle.

I'm afraid they about to turn back into a pumpkin, honey. Dis jig is up.

ChiefsFanatic 12-19-2016 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 12626815)
Shitty run game and shaky Alex doesn't help, but it's pretty obvious our play calling goes into a shell any time we get up by 10+ points.

It's pretty obvious that without the defense and special teams scoring, we are lucky to get to 10+ points.



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splatbass 12-19-2016 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 12626631)
Funny how this team looks when it doesn't score on defense and special teams.

And when the D lets the other team run all over them all day long. And the offense can't get one ****ing yard when they have two tries. And the HC goes conservative in the 2nd half. And they let DAT play. Etc. This was a TEAM loss.

MMXcalibur 12-19-2016 02:37 AM

Tyreek not being more a part of the offense yesterday is mind-numbingly stupid.

ChiefsFanatic 12-19-2016 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12627386)
Colts game all over again

we go into the 3rd quarter with the lead and control of the game.

Andy gets nervous or stupid ... shuts it down, playing not to lose. Tells the defense that it's all your problem.

Other team fights and scratches their way back for the win.

Andy called the same ****ing plays back then. He thinks that sideways passing etc runs the clock and protects the lead. All it really does is give the other team a chance. Just like the prevent defense does a lot of the time.

If the final offensive possession took place in the 1st or 2nd quarter, then I can understand the play calls, as at that point you are just seeing how the defense reacts, possibly measuring the D up for some specific plays, etc.

But when your offense has to get one 1st down to win the game, has to pick up just 10 yards and the game is over, you call your 3 best plays designed to take advantage of the defenses aggressiveness. One that come to mind is the fake sweep opposite side pitch play. The LT and LG (or RG and RT) pull towards the short side, and the entire offensive lines sweeps that way, while the back takes 1 step that way, and then takes the naked pitch from the QB to the hopefully unprotected, vacant side of the field.

And you isolate your biggest mismatches. Run a drag route, or rub route and get Kelce matched up with a LB or CB. Or get the fastest player for either team, Tyreek Hill, and put him on the wide side of the field, with your bunch set on the short side, which would make safety help lean towards the short side of the field, and Hill takes a hard step or two like he is going deep, and then runs a hard slant. The DB has to honor his speed, which is all the cushion Hill needs to separate.

But whatever you call, your big offensive weapons have to be on the field.

3 plays to get 10 yards, and you have 2 players that are as close to indefensible as anyone in the NFL, and this is what Alex "Gigabytes" Smith & Andy "Offensive Genius" Reid come up with:

1st and 10 from the KC 25*(3:12) S.Ware left end to KC 30 for 5 yards

(BEFORE THIS CARRY WEST HAD 3 CARRIES FOR A TOTAL OF 2 YARDS)

2nd and 5 from the KC 30*(2:25) C.West up the middle to KC 33 for 3 yards. West finishes the game with 4 carries for 5 yards. That's a 1.25 yards per carry. Tyreek Hill had 1 carry for 68 yards.

3rd and 2 from the KC 33*(2:00) A.Smith right end to KC 33 for no gain

4th and 2 from KC 33*(1:16) D.Colquitt punts 42 yards to TEN 25, Center-J.Winchester, fair catch by M.Mariani.

We had to get 10 yards in 3 plays, and neither Hill nor Kelce were involved. Kelce finished with 3 receptions for 41 yards. That's 13.7 yards per catch.

Pathetic. Disgusting. Embarrassing. Idiotic. Moronic. Baffling.

Reid went full Reid.

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crazycoffey 12-19-2016 04:12 AM

You all are so funny;

Yes, Reid goes conservative with a lead, and it hurt us this week when it could've hurt us several weeks this year. Or any other week we didn't get a defensive or special teams TD

Yes, smith is just as successful at throwing short passes for high YAC as any Tom, Matt or Andy out there.

Yes, this team played with a backup pass rusher and back up rusher most of the season.

But they find ways to win more than they lose this year, so anything is possible....

Seriously though; it's been frustrating to see the play calling to super conservative with a lead, the other team almost bring it back to a game and the defense or special teams get the points the offense don't get, and save the win.

On the plus, I liked Reid going for it on 4th, every time he did Sunday. Hate the results (of course) and disagree with a few of the plays called, but liked the aggressiveness.

I hope that aggressiveness continues next week; in the form of playing offense to score points and not just the preserve a lead. But to be aggressive everytime the O is on the field.

Oh, and Sutton; blitz more!!!!!!!

kcxiv 12-19-2016 04:35 AM

lets ice the kicker when its below freezing. hey andy, its ****ing cold already!

dannybcaitlyn 12-19-2016 05:08 AM

This loss falls on the coach and offense mostly. Andy Reid conservativeness seem to rub off on Sutton. I watched the Raiders and Cowboys defenses yesterday both teams were aggressive on stopping the final drives of the Bucs and Chargers. Seems the Raiders been doing a lot this year. Sutton WTF !! Houston didn't do shit, Poe Maybe had one tackle he can ****off for his big payday. At least I saw Berry around the ball even though he miss timed his jump on the flee flicker. Pay him instead. We had Dadi activated which he should have been in on that final drive to get after the Qb. Sutton is just like Reid. They both take their foot off the gas and let teams stick around. When Reid first got here he said "We're going to score a lot of points" really? Suttton - All I ever heard was how aggressive this D was going to be. He never dials up enough pressure. He went into a shell on that last drive like Reid did after we got up 14. C'mon man!

jspchief 12-19-2016 05:18 AM

This is the same game the Chiefs have played all year. They are always a play or two away from winning or losing. How many games this year has it looked like the Chiefs were going to blow it wide open, only to stall out and let their opponents back in?

It's the exact same ****ing game they've played all year.

Danguardace 12-19-2016 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 12628478)
This is the same game the Chiefs have played all year. They are always a play or two away from winning or losing. How many games this year has it looked like the Chiefs were going to blow it wide open, only to stall out and let their opponents back in?

It's the exact same ****ing game they've played all year.

This ^^^ TBH look back some of the games last Year vs Browns, Chargers, Bears etc all came down to last minute drives.

This Team just cant finish.

Coochie liquor 12-19-2016 06:30 AM

Andy doesn't know how to put a team away
Alex can't put the team on his back and win a game with his arm when needed
Neither of them seems to be able to utilize the weapons we have on a reg basis
Don't see this team winning much outside of reg season games and no division titles until these issues are fixed


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