ESPN: Alex Smith's End Zone Interceptions Ruining a Good Thing for Chiefs
 

http://www.espn.com/blog/kansas-city...ing-for-chiefs

Also, Tigeruppercut is a ****.

It's the defense's fault.

According to ESPN Stats & Information research, Smith entered the game completing just 25 percent of his throws into the end zone.

That was the second-worst percentage in the league ahead of only Tyrod Taylor of the Buffalo Bills.

And we wanted him to throw into the endzone more early in the season.


We deserve this.

Defense just needs to score more points.

Reposting a Teicher or Mellinger article...speaks to your intelligence level

ROFL

That's pathetic.




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Facts not fiction Bitch! Suck it.

Imagine that. A QB that is unable to progress through his downfield receiving options is a turnover liability.

Must be doing something right...
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...l-predictions/

Still getting high from the stank in portopotties, Meat?

You should have been aborted. JFC

I don't think K-Mart is in business anymore ass hat. I am a framing carpenter, I build houses for a living. Kthxbye :rolleyes:

He's directly cost the chiefs 2 games.

When is Clutch Gene going to post a YouTube video on "The Alex Smith Red Zone Myth"?

All Good Things...

Surely Dorsey is not stupid enough to bring him back for 2017. Just keep Foles and draft a young prospect early. Smith is just sorry as hell.

10-4. 20-4 in the last 24. All he does is win, why u heff 2 be mad?

How much you all wanna bet Smith stays thru 2017?

What are your thoughts on the facts, not fiction, that Alex Smith's two interceptions have directly led to the Chiefs not being tied for the #1 seed right now?

The chiefs win in spite of alice not because of him.

He can't stay. He just can't. The Chiefs record should not be the deciding factor. Look at what he does and then decide. If they do that then he's gone.

Except for 2 games this year. I will Give Alex 2 games that he directly shouldered the majority of the load on offense. That's it, no more.

He also directly won the San Diego and Denver games. Yeah..those two INTs were HORRIBLE plays..especially when they happened but you have to be fair.

He is what he is...an above average QB.

Any pressure during the last 1:00 seals the game...where was Houston or Ford? Those are the moments your $100 million pass rusher has to step up. A sack screws them...they had no time outs.

I dont understand Sutton not using a blitz...knowing they had to throw downfield.

He isn't going anywhere.

I wouldn't be so sure. Smith is one year younger than McNabb was when Reid dumped him, but far less productive than McNabb was at the time. He had a winning record that season, too.

There's very little chance Smith rebounds from this season. He'll lose a second step next year and his scrambling will be even more diminished.

I refuse to believe Andy is dumb enough, or that his ego is large enough, to ignore the warning signs that have been flashing all year long with this QB.

It's possible he might start next season, but I doubt he finishes it, and there will be no extension.

The end is coming.

God damn it you are one annoying ass.

Was that so hard? Your Alex hate doesn't have to always be so visceral. The rumblings that Dorsey sniffed around Paxton Lynch tells me the brass is looking to upgrade the position, but not at a monumental cost. This team's Superbowl contention window is open, but only for a short time with Smith. A shiny new rookie wins them nothing short term, but I think Dorsey believes he can get the supporting cast strong enough around Smith to contend until a new face of the franchise is found. Denver did it with an ineffective Manning. His fading star was too much too pass up for the NFL and unfortunately KC doesn't have that sentimentality league wide for guys like Hali, Charles and DJ. Great vets, but not all time greats....

AIDS

Alex Inflicted Death Sentence

This is Smith's ineffective Manning season, sadly. He's putting even less points on the board than that old dog could manage.

QBs fall off a cliff at different ages. Not everyone plays until they're 38 or 39.

McNabb's last productive season was age 33.

So it will be with Alex.

ESPN: Alex Smith's End Zone Interceptions Ruining a Good Thing for Chiefs
 

West was open on the INT. He circled out of the backfield & maybe it's a TD.

No one was on Harris but who knows he if would have caught it or not.




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I 100% agree with you that he cost us the TB game as well as this game, However, He also single handily carried us in that Denver game Sunday night, that we won in OT.. he also single handily won our 1st game against SD week 1, everyone was sucking him off for that game.


My point being is, tick for tack. Its like comparing apples to oranges... We are all pissed that he cost us those 2 games, but theres no reason for alot of people to be acting the way they are. Its like they found a moment to criticize (rightfully) but its just un-conversational and biased at best.

Whatever. He leads an offense that can't score worth a damn and not just this year. QBs get paid to throw td's or at least get the offense far enough to run it in. We are near the bottom in all offensive categories. He is easy to defend and teams stack the line nailing Ware all game. He stinks and is not good enough to challenge defenses in the air.

Kelce likely would have and he was open at th 5 yd line as well with room to run...Smith threw to the absolute worst choice, who just happened to be the guy covered in the endzone. On any given day, most QB's see that and simply throw it away.

Your bolded. I think this is what frustrates many posters, not just your concern, but also for the other people who "disagree" with your thought on this..

I think the right way to phrase this is (He doesnt challenge defenses in the air 'enough') When you say he just stinks and isnt good enough to challenge defenses, i think this rubs people the wrong way which sets up for the traditional argument that has been had on here 10,000 times... The fact of the matter is, Alex is capable of challenging defenses in the air, and doesnt "stink"... he does however, run the problem of not challenging defenses 'enough' in the air.. If you want to get your point across, to the posters or people you so desperatly want to turn tide on the QB, I dont think saying something that is completely untrue, and detrimental to any conversation that COULD be had on alex's short-comings is the right way to go with it.. We can bash on alex for the things he doesnt do right, but where we go wrong, is where we dont give him the credit for when he does do the things that we say he "never does or cant do".. For me personally I think it falls more into the category of he wont do it until hes backed up into a corner with no other choice or a high %, low risk of turnover deep throw.

why this dysfunctional forum can't grasp this is beyond me. We get a 5 year, $14mil/year contract for a veteran QB who plays smart football and people are here screaming to pay $23 mil a year for the next Flacco.

Bunch of damn fools!

No he didn't. you know nothing about football. He had the 1 on 1 with Jeremy but Maclin ran a bad route and allowed the defender to control the inside. DJLN discussed this in detail earlier too. Don't believe it? Watch the tape.

Last year, Maclin dominated the middle every opportunity he got. Not so much this year.

The defense cost us the TB game. Look at the numbers. They were converting around 70% of 3rd down plays. That's almost twice the league average.

Don't like it? Then Don't read it.

Ignore button is at your disposal.

Nah, he sucks

Im not a fan of Smith or better put a fan of game manager caliber QBs like Smith in general. QB is just too important of a position to dumb down and try to make up for it in other areas. A rebuilding team trying to find its footing is one thing, but a team that considers itself a legit contender is simply doing it the hard way whether they believe it or not.

That said, from what I understand both Smiths red zone INTs came on locked read plays. Basically one read plays that he either follows through with or throws away if it isnt there. Also from what I understand these plays are opponent specific plays Brad Childress comes up with that are supposedly fool proof if its followed correctly. Which makes the whole thing funnier if true.
Supposedly he had these when he was HC of the Vikings and Favre often improvised them, and even when the improvising was successful it still pissed Childress off. They hated each other and it all started once Favre started changing the one read plays.

10-4. With Houston out most of the season. jamaal charles has only played maybe half of one game. Maclin down with groin injury for 3+ games. Smith out 1.5 games.

undefeated against our division.

I like our chances, bub.

I hate these one read plays. Reid admitted in the TB game it was a designed fake to Ware to hit an open receiver. Stupid if you ask me. Smith is a mobile QB, let him make a play like he did hitting Ware for that roll out TD pass the other week.

So you don't blame Smith for blowing the #1 seed?

That was a plus.

this is absurd..... if alex doesnt throw that one pick into the endzone game is over 110% we win.. The defense didnt play great on 3rd down, but we held them to under 20 points, and if you start nit picking about 3rd down, our offense played like shit alot of plays as well. you cant just pick one and neglect the other... Alex smith single handily lost us the TB game when it was really counting down.

Wouldnt blame smith for blowing the #1 seed, but I do blame him for the TB and Titan game...

However, blowing the #1 seed argument is just dumb and theres too many variables to it.. Like i said earlier, alex carried us big time against Denver and won it in OT, and then also everyone was sucking alex's D game 1 week 1 when he rolled San diego and carried us on his back on that 33-27 win where he threw for 350+ yards... So for instance, those 2 games he carried us cancels out the two games he blew for us no? Thats why I dont like playing the "he cost us the #1 seed game".. We could be 8-6 right now even 7-7if alex played like alot of people says he plays, referring to if we lost to Denver/atlanta or san diego this year...

However, he hasnt played like that, hes played better than most say he plays, thats a VARIABLE to why we are 10-4. Could we be 12-2 if alex doesnt throw the bonehead picks? hell yes we could, but I count our blessings that we are even 10-4 at this point with whats happened this season.

Alex doesn't get credit for "carrying" the Chiefs against SD and Denver. He played like dogshit for 3 quarters in one game, and for 58 minutes in the other.

This team blew the #1 seed because Smith choked in home games. Period.

You need to give credit, where credit is due. Then all these anti-alex points your making about Smith will gain alot more credibility, at least to me. But i doubt you care about that.

Why does it take the mods so long...and let you continue posting under a different name?

Everyone knows your shtick...it's kind of frightening...the persistence.

Certainly there is something else in your life you can expend this wasted energy on...go feed the homeless or something. Anything.

I agree that the pass rush was absent in both home losses. And I agree that Smith's play in the 4th quarter, and in overtime, was the main factor in winning the San Diego game. But the Denver game, no, he was just a small part of the winning equation.

Houston"s sack for the safety, and Hill"s subsequent kick return for a touchdown, had more to do with winning the game than Smith's play. The officials played a huge part in the win, overturning the call on the field that Hill was down prior to crossing the goal line. Remember, the booth called for a review 1 second before time expired. After some of the ridiculously bad officiating this year in the NFL, it's a minor miracle that it was even reviewed at all, much less ruled a touchdown. Smith was 26 for 44 for only 220 yards. That's a 59% completion percentage. He threw the ball 44 times, netting a total of just 190 after adjusting for sack yardage.

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What's Flaccos playoff record, and how many SB rings does he have?

And you still want that, but you do not want him to force something and have the other team make the easiest interception they could possibly ask for.

I know. The irony is amusing, though.

The Chiefs are doing a good job of winning and losing as a team. Is everybody wanting them to turn into the Donkeys and have the defense at the offense's throat? Yeah, AS has cost them a couple games but in the same breath he's won a couple. The same could be said for the defense. 1 more defensive stop in a couple games and they are tied home field. I'm just hoping the Chiefs learn from their mistakes and keep working. A loss every once in a while can be humbling and refocus them and so far, they haven't come against teams that you'd say are better than the Chiefs, just that they were better on that given day.

The Chiefs never had a shot at the 1 seed.

You are delusional if you think New England is losing either one of their last two games. The 1 seed was never in play.

The slippery slope toward Casselian football advances ever-closer...

oh he absolutely will be here. because the Chiefs are ****ing reeruned.

To be fair, they had a shot until Alex threw that terrible pick against the Bucs.

Start Nick Foles...problem solved?

20-4. Likely to be 22-4 heading into 2017.

And likely to go yet another season with at most 1 playoff victory, if we're lucky. Congratulations Mr. True Fan, we'll end up with a decent season and an appearance in the playoffs. You'll be pleased and will continue to spout your bullshit, even though we'll have gone yet another season without sniffing a championship.

How different would the Chiefs record be with Nick Foles at QB?



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KC's defense is not as a good as Denver's was last year. Houston and Ford haven't really done much together, especially Sunday. The hope has to be that KC's defense and special teams can make up the difference between their D and Denver's from last year. I think KC's offense can match what Denver did but they are so inconsistent. They are going to need to be really clicking in the red zone in the playoffs and between the run game and Alex potentially being gun-shy in the red zone now, it could be a problem.

My guess would be same record. As we saw with Foles in Indy... Once Reid reigned him back in from the down field throws at Indy, we saw Smith like results where Foles started and played the Jacksonville game.

Nothing really changes... We win games we shouldnt, we lose games we shouldnt. Its like groundhog day.

I have ****ing had it with this ass clown.

If I believed in banning people, this shithead would be on the shortlist.

He wasn't here for the kicker that shall not be named, For the 13-3's, for DT, Carter and Hasty, The Gleam, For ****ing Elway, For the the longest PO streak of the 90's.

ALL WASTED because one position just was not Good enough.

He wasn't here when we let a Real QB go to the Raiders because of a gay commitment to a POS, not unlike the one he has made to Alex.

He is not one of us..... and I am ****ing sick of reading his BS telling other posters that this is the QB for this team, when he doesn't know jack or shit about what the fans of this team have been through regarding that position.

Clay is a troll, fine, but at least it's funny sometimes, and it's fun when he's wrong.
And he's has PAID his dues as a fan of this team.

This **** isn't even a troll, he's something much worse.

Yeah, you are a fan, Bob.
There is no single way to be one.
So go to AP, WP or whatever other board, I DGAF.
Why you are still here, I have no clue.
It is made clear to you in nearly every thread that this is not the best place for you.
Hell, you have nearly half the board on ignore and the only reason you can tolerate the others, is because they ignore you.

Not to mention the multiple bannings, but as ol' uncle Diddly would say, you must enjoy abuse, because you just keep coming back for more.

Chiefs defense scores a higher % of its teams points than the 85 bears, 00 Ravens, 02 Bucs or the 15 Broncos.

You are mind-numbingly stupid if you think Alex would have a record like that if not for historical play on defense.

I'm just going to mention this once more and then I'm done. If the Chiefs could run the ****ing ball none of this shit matters. Smith would be a cause of concern going forward. The problem is they can't run the ****ing ball in December. End of story. It's cold out. You can't run the ball or stop the run it's over. Hate to say it but the same story repeats itself for every team in contention every year.

HOLY SHIT, WHERES THE TYLENOL!

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/TQXuazYI_YU/maxresdefault.jpg

I think you are forgetting the historical average of quality punter setups that have been executed this season...

Way to go beachtribe. Hope you are happy mods keeping this piece of shit around.Clay knows football 10x more then tiger does. Clay contributed here. Tiger is just an alex loving 49er fan. He is not a chiefs fan he is an alice fan.

I have renamed him ATTENTIONBITCH. Just waiting for a mod to make it official.
You are correct on all counts except one. He is a troll.
HE IS'NT ONE OF US. If you don't agree with him he calls you a fair weather fan.
A mod needs to flush the knob slobberer.

When Beach is calling for it, there really isn't anything else that needs to be said.

Your favorite semen supplier won't even take responsibility for scoring 0 points in 3 consecutive second halves. He said he wasn't aware of that statistic and that you can't point to just one reason for our lackluster offensive output. Is that the type of leader you want running our offense? That's not what I call a leader. Even Travis Kelce has had it with our conservative approach and inept field general. Sucks his balls all you want, the two of you deserve each other.

I was content with Alex being the game manager, not turning the ball over, and occasionally making plays when needed. I mean, I hate it but I felt we could win with that. But now that he's turning it over in the red zone on critical drives, he's not even good at being what he is. And the over/under thrown wide open receivers. UGH that shit has to stop.

I don't know what it is. How much of it is Andy and how much is alex, but I suspect it's that they are dangerous together. But Alex is worse protecting a lead than he is playing from behind. It is the strangest thing. This is the third straight game where we attacked and looked great in the first half then looked like dogshit the second half. And strangely, it doesn't seem to be conservative playcalling. Alex had two ridiculously stupid turnovers to start the second half in Atlanta and the obvious dumb int in the end zone against Tennessee. It's a hard one to figure out.

Those two turnovers were against Oakland.....but I get what you were going for.

Five offensive touchdowns scored in the second half since the bye week.

It's either being conservative to the point of stupidity or opposing d-coordinators are out coaching the best HC in the NFL not named Belichick.

Even more disturbing is he has a fan club. That 3bag shithead gargles and swallows everything tiger posts. As well as a few others.

ChiefsPlanet needs balance. If Clay has to go, then so do these pieces of trash.

Sandy is an Alex fanboy, but at least he is tolerable.