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Reerun_KC 01-08-2017 08:23 AM

Extending Reid?
 
Is it time already?

Chiefs will try to extend coach Andy Reid this offseason http://es.pn/2iRGTHF
via @ESPN App http://es.pn/app

Unless win Superbowl. Mixed feelings about going all sideways for the future...

OnTheWarpath15 01-08-2017 08:30 AM

Just heard that Dorsey is a candidate in GB on NFL Network...

Coochie liquor 01-08-2017 08:30 AM

On occasion he drives me ****ing bonkers, but he's a very good coach. I'm all for extending him, he's only won since he got here.

oldman 01-08-2017 08:31 AM

Let's see---11-5, 9-7, 11-5, 12-4, 3 playoff appearances in 4 years. Naw, I think he's gotta go unless we win the SB, Smith throws for 450 yards and 6 TDs, and we win by 50 points.

Coochie liquor 01-08-2017 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 12667076)
Just heard that Dorsey is a candidate in GB on NFL Network...

God I hope he stays here. That would truly suck. I feel like he's where he wants to be right now though. He seems committed, and isn't done building his team yet.

ChiliConCarnage 01-08-2017 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 12667076)
Just heard that Dorsey is a candidate in GB on NFL Network...

Those cheese eating mother****ers!

OnTheWarpath15 01-08-2017 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 12667081)
God I hope he stays here. That would truly suck. I feel like he's where he wants to be right now though. He seems committed, and isn't done building his team yet.

I didn't realize he's in the last year of his deal. I just assumed he and Andy had the same length of contract.

Coochie liquor 01-08-2017 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 12667083)
I didn't realize he's in the last year of his deal. I just assumed he and Andy had the same length of contract.

Wow I didn't realize that either. Damn sure hope he stays put. Clark, write that man a BIG check!!

Bob Dole 01-08-2017 08:41 AM

Ree_rum once again advocating for the Browns model of building a team. Unless SB, throw out coach and QB. Doesn't matter WHO replaces them, but they need to be replaced.

Rasputin 01-08-2017 08:41 AM

I'm pretty confident we will keep the ship sailing with Dorsey and Andy. They seem to really like KC and are having success so I think Clark will do the right thing keep them both around a few more years. I'd say both will have ten years together before they decide to move on so 6 more years.

Chiefs Pantalones 01-08-2017 08:42 AM

#Chiefs GM John Dorsey hasn’t signed a contract extension. Important name to watch as a potential future #Packers GM

Chief Northman 01-08-2017 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 12667072)
Is it time already?

Chiefs will try to extend coach Andy Reid this offseason http://es.pn/2iRGTHF
via @ESPN App http://es.pn/app

Unless win Superbowl. Mixed feelings about going all sideways for the future...

Yeah, winning sucks.

RunKC 01-08-2017 08:44 AM

I'd be surprised if he left considering he said this was a dream job a his wife is from here. He doesn't seem like he would just up and leave Andy like that either.

But if he did leave, it's Ballard's job

milkman 01-08-2017 08:49 AM

I had no idea that Reid is only 58.

As long as the team keeps winning, he could be around for another 10 years.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-08-2017 08:49 AM

Pretty sure this is just Rapoport trying to get clicks. Has no legitimate backbone to his statement other than 'he still has strong ties'. Well no shit, those guys in GB are his friends.

I'll be completely shocked if he leaves.

Chief Roundup 01-08-2017 08:50 AM

We need to extend both Reid and Dorsey.

milkman 01-08-2017 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12667100)
Pretty sure this is just Rapoport trying to get clicks. Has no legitimate backbone to his statement other than 'he still has strong ties'. Well no shit, those guys in GB are his friends.

I'll be completely shocked if he leaves.

Regardless, getting Dorsey extended should be Hunt's #1 priority.

Hoover 01-08-2017 08:52 AM

This just means that Dorsey and Reid sign new contracts this coming week. Perfect timing BEFORE a huge playoff game.

Clark is going to have to write some BIG checks.

RunKC 01-08-2017 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12667100)
Pretty sure this is just Rapoport trying to get clicks. Has no legitimate backbone to his statement other than 'he still has strong ties'. Well no shit, those guys in GB are his friends.

I'll be completely shocked if he leaves.

His contract is up, Chris Ballard said he wants to stay and there has been zero talk of us extending Dorsey

OnTheWarpath15 01-08-2017 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12667100)
Pretty sure this is just Rapoport trying to get clicks. Has no legitimate backbone to his statement other than 'he still has strong ties'. Well no shit, those guys in GB are his friends.

I'll be completely shocked if he leaves.

Well, where there's smoke...

His contract ends at the end of this season.

He hasn't been extended.

KC denied SF permission to interview Chris Ballard.


I'm not going to be shocked when/if he takes the GB job.

BryanBusby 01-08-2017 08:52 AM

The Packers have some great inhouse candidates to fill the spot, which is why Ted Thompson is giving up the GM role. I don't think they will fill it externally.

Rasputin 01-08-2017 08:52 AM

I like the way Dorsey and Reid work together. Dorsey buys the ingredients and Reid cooks.

This is a far and above from the dictatorship regime under Pioli. Haley may have been a hell of a coach after all but Pioli tied his hands with Cassel and I know Haley knew he couldn't win with Cassel. That was the worst feeling I've ever felt scary how things were ran and I also feel bad for Coach Romeo for what he had to witness in the parking lot and but it was brought on by Pioli being a freaking asshole that made this franchise go cold and dark.


**** you Pioli you piece of shit maggot **** you.


Things are much better now and give credit to Clark Hunt for bringing in Reid and Dorsey. I just hope we get to the Super Bowl and make all these years worth the wait and sacrifice.

MTG#10 01-08-2017 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 12667106)
Well, where there's smoke...

His contract ends at the end of this season.

He hasn't been extended.

KC denied SF permission to interview Chris Ballard.


I'm not going to be shocked when/if he takes the GB job.

Unfortunately, this. Dorsey is likely gone.

Rasputin 01-08-2017 08:56 AM

Reid and Dorsey aren't going anywhere. Clark will pay them what they are worth.

It's business and business is winning. I believe Clark hates losing so as long as business is winning and business is good he will extend Dorsey and Reid.

RunKC 01-08-2017 08:57 AM

Eliot Wolf is Ron Wolf's kid and is a legit GM candidate. I bet he takes oveR

Rasputin 01-08-2017 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 12667109)
Unfortunately, this. Dorsey is likely gone.

Dorsey is not going anywhere.

oldman 01-08-2017 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12667102)
Regardless, getting Dorsey extended should be Hunt's #1 priority.

I agree 100%. Hell, name a bridge around Arrowhead after him if need be.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-08-2017 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 12667106)
Well, where there's smoke...

His contract ends at the end of this season.

He hasn't been extended.

KC denied SF permission to interview Chris Ballard.


I'm not going to be shocked when/if he takes the GB job.

Perhaps. But a lot of dominoes have to fall first, starting with Ted Thompson giving up the job this year.

OnTheWarpath15 01-08-2017 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12667111)
Eliot Wolf is Ron Wolf's kid and is a legit GM candidate. I bet he takes oveR

IIRC, they allowed him to interview for the SF job so they certainly aren't afraid to lose him.

BryanBusby 01-08-2017 08:59 AM

The only reason the GB spot is open now because Ted Thompson knew he would lose somebody like Elliot Wolf to another franchise, if he weren't promoted soon.

OnTheWarpath15 01-08-2017 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12667115)
Perhaps. But a lot of dominoes have to fall first, starting with Ted Thompson giving up the job this year.

This is true, but has been speculated for most of the season.

Marcellus 01-08-2017 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12667105)
His contract is up, Chris Ballard said he wants to stay and there has been zero talk of us extending Dorsey

And you have ZERO idea whats being discussed internally. Not everyone leaks their plans to media.

BryanBusby 01-08-2017 09:02 AM

And on the chance that Dorsey does leave for GB, it's almost as if the Chiefs have the most badass fill-in in the NFL.

Settle the **** down

Rasputin 01-08-2017 09:02 AM

Why would Clark want to go through another process of interviews? All he has to do is negotiate with Dorsey and it will be a slam dunk deal for 4 more years.



He will do the same with Reid. Dorsey and Reid are tied at the hip they work great together and both give each other credit so it's not like we are having issues like in the past.

I'm not worried Dorsey and Reid will get their extensions.

DC.chief 01-08-2017 09:03 AM

Just saw that about Dorsey too. I don't know man. I find it really hard to believe but were not talking about jason la confora here. We have a great thing going right here and I really hope he stays

pugsnotdrugs19 01-08-2017 09:08 AM

We do have a nice contingency plan in Ballard.. idk. I think I'll let the cards unfold on this one before I give much more thought to it.

Hoover 01-08-2017 09:08 AM

I don't know why Dorsey would leave a team that he built. The Chiefs is HIS team. All his. He build this roster, he decided who to keep, who to walk.

Dorsey gets all the credit here. He doesn't get the credit in Green Bay. People will always talk about Wolf. People will also credit any success to Rogers.

What roster/situation would you want? I know I'm a homer, but damn, KC is set to win now and in the future. We need some guard help, an ILB, and then everything else every team in the league needs young players to develop at every position. Yeah he could go to Green Bay and be with Rogers, but damn, there are some big holes to fill in Green Bay especially on defense.

unlurking 01-08-2017 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldman (Post 12667080)
Let's see---11-5, 9-7, 11-5, 12-4, 3 playoff appearances in 4 years. Naw, I think he's gotta go unless we win the SB, Smith throws for 450 yards and 6 TDs, and we win by 50 points.

Not that I'm saying I want Reid gone, but we've seen this before. Marty had 6 playoff appearances in his first 7 years here. 7 of 10 total. Playoff appearances don't mean jack shit to me anymore. I'm also not saying Reid is the same coach as Marty. I'm just saying record doesn't mean shit without winning the ultimate prize. Not anymore. Not after fifty years.

RealSNR 01-08-2017 09:14 AM

There were rumblings not two months ago that Mike McCarthy was going to lose his job. Rumblings from INSIDE the Packers.

You want that kind of shit show, Dorsey?

notorious 01-08-2017 09:15 AM

This is just leverage to get moare money. Nothing to see here.

O.city 01-08-2017 09:17 AM

Yeah, we should move on from Reid.


Good lord

RunKC 01-08-2017 09:18 AM

yeah just looked to be sure. John's wife is from here and if he has a choice to stay, you bet your ass he's staying. Wife won't want to move.

notorious 01-08-2017 09:33 AM

If Reid manages to win the big one it will prob up his already juicy pay several million a year.

Reerun_KC 01-08-2017 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 12667076)
Just heard that Dorsey is a candidate in GB on NFL Network...

That would be devastating, more so than Reid.

KChiefs1 01-08-2017 10:04 AM

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CaliforniaChief 01-08-2017 10:06 AM

I won't believe it until one of you sees the negotiations happening at Wal Mart.

Reerun_KC 01-08-2017 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 12667236)
I won't believe it until one of you sees the negotiations happening at Wal Mart.

In leawood or Olathe?

CaliforniaChief 01-08-2017 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 12667238)
In leawood or Olathe?

Ooooh good point. Hadn't thought about that. I'll say Leawood.

Red Dawg 01-08-2017 10:12 AM

Clark had better extend them both. Not to at this point would be just plain stupid. What owner just lets a GM and coach walk after winning 20 of 24. Andy drives me up the wall at times but we have Smith at QB and we win. What other coach could have pulled that off.

Jimmya 01-08-2017 10:52 AM

Guy on the radio said only way Packers get rid of McCarthy is if the Pack loses today and they can find a way to lure Reid and Dorsey away from KC!

kcpasco 01-08-2017 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmya (Post 12667354)
Guy on the radio said only way Packers get rid of McCarthy is if the Pack loses today and they can find a way to lure Reid and Dorsey away from KC!

Reid is under contract for a 5th year. This shit is getting out of hand. The Chiefs start to have some sustained success and the entire league gotta shit on it.

Hammock Parties 01-08-2017 11:03 AM

So is Reid going to have all the power if Dorsey leaves?

Not sure I like that.

BigRedChief 01-08-2017 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 12667363)
Reid is under contract for a 5th year. This shit is getting out of hand. The Chiefs start to have some sustained success and the entire league gotta shit on it.

isnt that normal? A little success and everyone wants your coach and GM?

Spott 01-08-2017 11:17 AM

I clicked on this thread thinking it was fat guy porn.

notorious 01-08-2017 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spott (Post 12667417)
I clicked on this thread thinking it was fat guy porn.

Do you mean "porn for fat guys" or "fat guy porn"?

Pretty big difference between the two.

DaneMcCloud 01-08-2017 11:39 AM

This is complete and utter speculation by Rappaport.

As for Ballard, who in their right mind wants to work for that shitshow in Santa Clara?

Hell, Cleveland is a better gig.

notorious 01-08-2017 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12667449)
This is complete and utter speculation by Rappaport.

As for Ballard, who in their right mind wants to work for that shitshow in Santa Clara?

Hell, Cleveland is a better gig.

Pretty much.


Throw "edgy" shit out there to get attention. Manufacture news that isn't there. Carry on as if nothing happened.

Pretty standard stuff.

notorious 01-08-2017 11:42 AM

All the responses expose how bad of an inferiority complex the fan base has, though.

Demonpenz 01-08-2017 11:55 AM

The Chiefs should be on the cover of "Letting the good get in the way of great"

SuperBowl4 01-08-2017 11:58 AM

Reid should be the coach for as long as he is able, but...
 
has to remember how to manage the timeouts. In a close game and time running down, Reid's clock management skills are questionable. And remember the blown 28 point lead in the third quarter at Indianapolis in the playoffs? That still pisses me off! Other than that He is still way better than Herman Edwards or Todd Haley!

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-08-2017 12:02 PM

Clark will be writing checks for Reid and Dorsey as quickly as he can reach for a pen.

rico 01-08-2017 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12667098)
I had no idea that Reid is only 58.

As long as the team keeps winning, he could be around for another 10 years.

I sometimes wonder if guys like Alex and Reid are going to ultimately be remembered as 49ers and Eagles or if they will be primarily remembered as Chiefs.

milkman 01-08-2017 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rico (Post 12668889)
I sometimes wonder if guys like Alex and Reid are going to ultimately be remembered as 49ers and Eagles or if they will be primarily remembered as Chiefs.

Reid will be remembered for both.

Smith's legacy will be defined by what he and the Chiefs do in these next couple of years, including postseason play.

kccrow 01-08-2017 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12667111)
Eliot Wolf is Ron Wolf's kid and is a legit GM candidate. I bet he takes oveR

Would be my #1 guess. Packers' fans praise Ron Wolf. I can't fathom this not happening. The feeling around the area is that Ted Thompson hasn't been good enough of late, but his contract is through the 2019 draft. So, Thompson would have to either step down, or the Packers will watch Wolf go elsewhere. Rumors are that Thompson is considering stepping down into a lesser role, but we shall see.

Mr. Laz 01-08-2017 06:09 PM

Would absolutely choose Dorsey over Reid if it comes down to one or the other.


Not even close


Andy Reid the OC reduces the value of Andy Reid the HC.

kcmaxwell 01-08-2017 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12669333)
Would absolutely choose Dorsey over Reid if it comes down to one or the other.


Not even close


Andy Reid the OC reduces the value of Andy Reid the HC.

I agree with this, but I'd rather they both stay.

BigRedChief 01-08-2017 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spott (Post 12667417)
I clicked on this thread thinking it was fat guy porn.

Obligatory , you were seeking and hoping to find fat guy porn in here?:eek:

DaneMcCloud 01-08-2017 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12669333)
Would absolutely choose Dorsey over Reid if it comes down to one or the other.


Not even close


Andy Reid the OC reduces the value of Andy Reid the HC.

Reid makes mistakes. He isn't perfect.

But he's 22-4. He won the first playoff game since the 1993.

Asking for perfection is just a little too much, IMO.

Every coach makes mistakes, including BB.

Inspector 01-08-2017 08:42 PM

Andy Reid can extend quite a ways.

About an acre. If you pound him out flat.

Tombstone RJ 01-08-2017 08:56 PM

Just fill the feed trough and push it over to Andy. He'll sign.

AussieChiefsFan 01-09-2017 01:57 AM

Good.

-King- 01-09-2017 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12669333)
Would absolutely choose Dorsey over Reid if it comes down to one or the other.


Not even close


Andy Reid the OC reduces the value of Andy Reid the HC.

Reid the HC has still took us to the playoffs 3 out of 4 years including a playoff win and a #2 seed.

His "failures" as an OC dont even make a small dent in his coaching resume.
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carcosa 01-09-2017 10:43 AM

If he wins the Super Bowl, give him a 30 year extension

If he doesn't, FIRE HIM AND DUMP HIM INTO THE SEA

CupidStunt 01-09-2017 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12669333)
Would absolutely choose Dorsey over Reid if it comes down to one or the other.


Not even close


Andy Reid the OC reduces the value of Andy Reid the HC.

Of course we have no idea how much that goes on upstairs is down to Reid. Everyone around here wanted to think Reid was pulling the strings a few years ago. Has that changed? Was it ever the case?

I'd rather just keep both. For as much suck as we as hardcore fans have witnessed, it amazes me how little we appreciate guys who radiate the opposite. Reid has done literally nothing but win everywhere he's been -- yes, not a Super Bowl, which is close to impossible with QBs like McNabb and Alex Whiff, but only a few coaches can sniff his resume -- while Dorsey appears to be a top 5 type GM in the moves he's made.

Why in God's name people think either or both moving could be even remotely positive is beyond me. Short of Clark somehow wooing Belichick or 1 or 2 other guys over, we would downgrade instantly.

All that said, neither is going anywhere. We gave Dorsey his first and big chance to be the boss. And he's done a heck of a job showing his stuff to date, but will have unfinished business short of a miracle and unlikely run the next few weeks. And Reid clearly looks happier and more settled than he's ever been. I don't think he'd leave for anything quite honestly. Money? A challenge? What? He's got it right in KC. Short of the mullethead idiots who would prefer we go back to the days of Herm Edwards or Todd Haley.

RealSNR 01-09-2017 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12669333)
Would absolutely choose Dorsey over Reid if it comes down to one or the other.


Not even close


Andy Reid the OC reduces the value of Andy Reid the HC.


I somewhat agree in that I think Dorsey is a better GM than Reid is a head coach.

However, is it easier to find a good GM or a good HC? I think evidenced by the fact that the average lifespan of a head coaching job is much less than that of a GM, I'd say good head coaches are more rare, or at least their faults are more difficult to hide.

If Dorsey leaves, we're promoting Ballard. It's a question mark, but Ballard is probably the best shot any team has at hiring a good GM. If Reid leaves, we get... some asshole? Toub wouldn't be bad. It could get

Mr. Laz 01-09-2017 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12670546)
I somewhat agree in that I think Dorsey is a better GM than Reid is a head coach.

However, is it easier to find a good GM or a good HC? I think evidenced by the fact that the average lifespan of a head coaching job is much less than that of a GM, I'd say good head coaches are more rare, or at least their faults are more difficult to hide.

If Dorsey leaves, we're promoting Ballard. It's a question mark, but Ballard is probably the best shot any team has at hiring a good GM. If Reid leaves, we get... some asshole? Toub wouldn't be bad. It could get

I think think it's easier for a good GM to "make" a coach look good so i take the good GM. Providing that he is a good personal type GM and not just a delegator.

Just can't underestimate the value of a guy who is good at bringing in talent to an organization.

Titty Meat 01-09-2017 12:43 PM

What about GM? We don't have one as of Friday.

Dave Lane 01-09-2017 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 12667076)
Just heard that Dorsey is a candidate in GB on NFL Network...

For what?

Dave Lane 01-09-2017 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay (Post 12670780)
What about GM? We don't have one as of Friday.

We aren't going to re-up? Dorsey? WTF?

-King- 01-09-2017 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 12670798)
For what?

Assistant special teams coach.
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