Chiefs under investigation for Chris Conley concussion evaluation
 

Ready to lose another high draft pick for bullshit?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...investigation/

I'm shocked!

Worth it!

This is a fireable offense for Reid if we were to lose another draft pick, especially after the whole Maclin fiasco.

Gotta love the NFL. JFC

I like you!

of course, but not any other teams

Have many times has Edelman looked damn near unconscious on his feet without investigation? There was some dude in the playoffs that was knocked the **** out and came back in.

NFL selective bullshit again

Patriots cry and bitch all the time but league turns a blind eye often enough

The Chiefs were uncomfortably close to beating one of the league's favored teams. Going to have beat them back down to their rightful social level.

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NO

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YES

Is this a ****ing joke? The steelers defense put a cheap head shot on an offensive player in consecutive weeks. And they're investigating the receiver? This is what's wrong with the nfl.

It's not the only thing wrong with the NFL. There are other factors that **** it up..

http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/im...630&h=420&q=75

Seattle is rumored to lose a 2nd rd pick for the Sherman injury report fiasco and Miami is also being investigated for Matt Moore's hit the previous week

Yet some how some way Patriots even getting caught cheating get back to Super Bowls.

So the nfl that overreached on bountygate is now giving defensive players incentive to knock players out. Goodell is such a **** up.

I thought the NFL had people on site to address these situations as they occur.

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How long how long must we sing this song? How long?

No it isn't.

Fo-eva...

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Isn't there a doctor that is unaffiliated with the team that makes the decision? I'm sure there is, they mention it all the time during games. If so, how is it the Chiefs fault? And why would knuckle dragging morons think that Andy Reid should be fired for it?

**** you... ..!..

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The NFL and NFLPA have concluded that the concussion protocol was "not strictly followed" for Matt Moore's head injury during the Wild Card Round against Pittsburgh.

Moore got absolutely leveled by Bud Dupree but miraculously missed only one play. It's troubling that teams are still having a hard time grasping the concussion protocol now that it's been in place for a few seasons. The NFL sent the Dolphins a written warning and said the team's staff will be required to undergo a full review of the league's protocol. It seems like the Dolphins are getting off easy.

Meanwhile at the cheatriots

There's a way to climb that "social level" right on up the ladder to respectability.
And, you don't have to fire Reid to make it happen either.

This. The concussion protocol is there to take any decision making out of the teams hands. Ala Jamaal Charles who said on record he had no concussion in the Indy debacle.

If there is a problem talk to the neurologist.

But yeah. Dude had a concussion. He was on a different plane of existence than the rest of us.

Well, if the shoe fits......

Would that path require KC doing something they have never done in over 30 years?

Yeah, what a bonus. Hit an opposing player in the head to take them out of the game for a while, and then if you're lucky they might even lose a draft pick.

It seems to me that if you hit a player who is taken out for a concussion protocol, you should be taken out of the game for the same amount of time that they're out. This would disincentivize defenders from taking head shots instead of the current system that encourages them.

I've heard that mentioned a few times. It is precisely what needs to happen. Probably better cap it if it is a career ender.

I was just thinking within the game, not crossing games. Though I'm not averse to that. In that case, though, I agree with you that you'd have to cap it.

The NFL concussion protocol is a joke.

They are about to blow another 3rd round pick

The Seattle one is another that is complete BS. Didn't miss a single snap due to injury but an issue because gambling.

I agree. I hate adding subjectivity to officiating. But it's the only way to create fairness as long as you create a concussion protocol. To me, the worst possible thing in a violent sport like this is giving a team the opportunity to play Tonya harding.

You answered your own question. Because they're knuckle dragging morons. That's why.

Dolphins are also under investigation on the hit on Moore.

It's all Bull Shit. The Moore situation is far worse than Conklin IMHO

NFL is becoming unwatchable

No, NFL teams, starting with this one, need to respect potential head traumas.

Alex Smith had no business returning to that Colts game. And again with Conley here.

It's not the offseason until KC has some draft picks taken away...

The NFL is not investigating, the NFLPA is.

The Dolphins got off with a slap on the wrist. If the Chiefs don't.....then that's ****ing bullshit.

I don't disagree. But that is what the neurologist on the sidelines is for. They harped and harped and harped that he wasn't on the payroll and didn't answer to anybody. Conley was down Forever. If anybody ****ed up it is him.

Doesn't the NFL have their own people on the sidelines to determine if a player passes the protocol? If anything, the Chiefs should be awarded an extra third round pick since the NFL backed doctors allowed Conley back on the field.

So, all the Chiefs really have to do is say it was a stinger and not a concussion and what can they do about it? Nothing, essentially. He got hit such that either was entirely possible.

All they have to do in that case is say they tested range of motion and pain and that all was good. Handling of stingers should be like concussions, but it isn't and never has been.

You'll have bill bellichek sending out a fifth string wide receiver to get "concussed" by the opposing teams best player.

As long as the independent neurologist guy on the sideline said "ok" I don't see how the Chiefs are in any trouble.

If KC bypassed the medical guy then Andy should be fined by the Chiefs a 100k for each draft pick round we lose to an NFL penalty.

7th round = 100k
6th round = 200k
5th round = 300k
etc

Yet nothing for the Steeler that cleaned their clocks??? Suuuuure

My High schools football coach used to tell the players "It's a long way from your heart, son". Whatever happened to "you got your bell rung"

Ahh the good old ignorant days. Member? I member.

How can you punish the team if the decision was made by a third party?

I guess I'd have to watch the hit again. I remember being more worried about his neck than a concussion.

with this being the NFLPA does that lead you to believe Conley filed a complaint?

I doubt it...

The NFLPA should be investigating all of these hits.

That's the investigation, did the 3rd party make the decision or did the player and/or team bypass the 3rd party.

It sure is showing that it's better (more profitable) to give than receive (a concussion). A player knocks a star out of the game, small fine, a player doesn't get knocked out of a game, the team pays dearly.

Makes sense..

His comment wasn't wrong Voyager

Scooter is gonna a sign Ole Bernie Pollard to "patriot" him a title

This... The NFL people have the authority to override the team physicians...

If Andy was going to do that Jamaal would have been back out there in Indy

must not have gotten too many concussions if you member :)

No point in resigning Berry then. Although he avoids head to head for the most part , he knocks people the **** out.

That's an idea with some serious merit. There could be a way to game that system, but that's true of every good idea. There'd be far more benefit to it than drawbacks from it, IMHO.

Here's Conley's statement on it. He said they checked him out but it was more his back than his head.

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The question should be "Was the concussion protocol followed?". If the answer is yes, then there's nothing on the Chiefs or any member of their staff. The protocol calls for a video replay of the hit by NFL staff and a evaluation by a league doctor. They only have to go to the locker room if further evaluation is needed.
In short, it's the NFL staff to make that call and not the Chiefs.

I would think it would have to be flagged as targeting. And if you are going to target a scrub then you're too dumb to play football.

I anticipate that even if nothing wrong happened we can expect to lose our 1st round pick for the next 5 years.

When they've held out other guys for precaution and concussion protocol, and based upon Conley's contributions to the team, exactly what is the incentive for the Chiefs to get in trouble to try to sneak this past the NFL?

I like the kid, but he's not exactly the vital cog in the machine that makes the difference between victory or defeat handing in the balance.

Look at how cautionary they were with Alex, Maclin, Houston, Hali, Morse, Charles, and so forth. But, with Chris Conley injuries and long term health be damned because he's the Chiefs' Julio Jones.


What a load of crap!

I think I got my "bell rung" as many times in baseball (catcher - foul tips to the catcher's mask), and wrestling (we were brutal) as I did in football. However football was king when it came to broken fingers!

Hahaha no doubt. I think I've broken every finger on both hands at some point playing ball. A couple are twisted and one fingertip grows more like the letter W than anything, but ah well. Played O-line... and blitzing ****ing linebackers were usually the reason. Caught my hands on their facemask, as they rush in head down, trying to get my hands on them more than a few times.

Yup, defensive tackle and I think even the bus driver tried to step on my hands!

During the game the cameras focused up on him during his eval on the sidelines and you could tell he was cruising thru his scat 3 concussion protocol questions quite confidently. I posted right then that he was going to come back into the game. A concussed player will try to b.s. their way thru those list of questions but at a pretty slow pace.

I have NO idea what that could be. Please share!

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It would appear so. :shake:

Not if the player was pushing for it too.


Maybe young Conley wanted to go back in there and old Charles did not


All conjecture, we don't know.

This explains a lot.

Hockey does something similar. There is some draw backs like completely barbaric hit and the guy is ok after the hit only gets a roughing penalty,

That you rode the bench...

I was starting center for two years.

Nice. Rep applied. I guess today's rules, rightly, went a long way to helping you not get dinged.

It was in the 70s.

Well shit, you must have had your bell rung once or thrice too.

From my understanding, forgot where I read it, Charles was pissed he couldn't go back out and knew he wasn't concussed