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DaWolf 02-24-2017 02:19 PM

Chiefs get a 3rd, a 5th, and 2 6ths as compensation picks...
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> will receive a third, a fifth and a two sixths as compensatory picks this year, per the NFL.</p>&mdash; Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/status/835222056656596992">February 24, 2017</a></blockquote>
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They can be traded this year...

Mother****erJones 02-24-2017 02:20 PM

Countdown to when the NFL takes away picks for the Conley injury in the steeler game.

The Franchise 02-24-2017 02:24 PM

That 3rd is huge.

Rain Man 02-24-2017 02:25 PM

Dorsey is going to get us four new stars. I'm confident in him.

raybec 4 02-24-2017 02:26 PM

Hopefully (and the Chiefs never do this) they can package some of that surplus together to go up early and grab someone they really want in the 1st.

scho63 02-24-2017 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 12755353)
Countdown to when the NFL takes away picks for the Conley injury in the steeler game.

Knowing those rotten bastards, we will lose ALL the comp picks and owe them one additional! :cuss:

ChiliConCarnage 02-24-2017 02:38 PM

Noice! dat 3rd

In58men 02-24-2017 02:39 PM

Chiefs trade 3rd pick for Kaepernick, mark it down.

Rooster 02-24-2017 02:40 PM

Just think of all the fatties they can get. I can't wait.

Urc Burry 02-24-2017 02:56 PM

I didn't know that depending on the year certain rounds get more/less comp picks.. assumed it was slotted. There were a TON of 3rd rounders this year. 11. Compared to just 3 7th rounders

Nickhead 02-24-2017 02:59 PM

chiefs swap first round picks, alex smith, and jeremy maclin to the:

Spoiler!

dls6501 02-24-2017 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickhead (Post 12755434)
chiefs swap first round picks, alex smith, and jeremy maclin to the:

Spoiler!

I wouldnt wish that city upon Maclin....but if it means Alex goes with him, welp see ya Jeremy!

Nickhead 02-24-2017 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dls6501 (Post 12755437)
I wouldnt wish that city upon Maclin....but if it means Alex goes with him, welp see ya Jeremy!

i am just buying into the idea the chiefs could make the mistake of signing romo. at that point you need to get something in return for alex rather than cutting him. :D

RunKC 02-24-2017 03:08 PM

We got a better haul than Denver and they lost everyone LMAO

Urc Burry 02-24-2017 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12755453)
We got a better haul than Denver and they lost everyone LMAO

The 1 year rental of Okung cost them a third. That is hilarious

Direckshun 02-24-2017 03:16 PM

How the hell did Denver only get ONE 3rd round pick. Osweiler and Malik Jackson signed gigantic contracts elsewhere.

Not that I'm complaining.

Direckshun 02-24-2017 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urc Burry (Post 12755472)
The 1 year rental of Okung cost them a third. That is hilarious

wooooooooooooow.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 02-24-2017 03:24 PM

My favorite is how everyone on here in week 4 said Dorsey was failing at his job

ROFL

In58men 02-24-2017 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12755487)
My favorite is how everyone on here in week 4 said Dorsey was failing at his job

ROFL

Maybe he'll use that 3rd round pick and draft another KeiVarae Russell since he's so damn good at his job ROFL

Direckshun 02-24-2017 03:34 PM

Hey now.

I've been assured by Dane and his minions that Dorsey's handling of the KeiVarae Russell monstrosity was the move of a "boss GM."

Sure, he had an almost unparalleled failure of a 3rd round draft pick, but he was smart enough to cut him immediately?

I love Dorsey, and hope he stays here for the rest of my adult lifetime. But the way CP makes excuses for the Russell debacle puzzles me.

In58men 02-24-2017 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 12755501)
Hey now.

I've been assured by Dane and his minions that Dorsey's handling of the KeiVarae Russell monstrosity was the move of a "boss GM."

Sure, he had an almost unparalleled failure of a 3rd round draft pick, but he was smart enough to cut him immediately?

I love Dorsey, and hope he stays here for the rest of my adult lifetime. But the way CP makes excuses for the Russell debacle puzzles me.

So it's okay to miss on draft pricks as long as we cut/trade away for a lesser value more?

A lesser value than what we paid/gave up

Direckshun 02-24-2017 03:38 PM

I don't know. I think the Russell debacle was probably the worst stain on Dorsey since he's been GM, so I don't know how to put a happy face on that.

Sfeihc 02-24-2017 03:45 PM

Very nice haul.

Rain Man 02-24-2017 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 12755501)
Hey now.

I've been assured by Dane and his minions that Dorsey's handling of the KeiVarae Russell monstrosity was the move of a "boss GM."

Sure, he had an almost unparalleled failure of a 3rd round draft pick, but he was smart enough to cut him immediately?

I love Dorsey, and hope he stays here for the rest of my adult lifetime. But the way CP makes excuses for the Russell debacle puzzles me.

I didn't know this, but in his first NFL defensive snap, Russell got an interception. So Dorsey knows his stuff, other than that part about cutting him. I think they cut him because it's so hard to spell his first name. That would have been annoying to the administration.

http://www.cincyjungle.com/2017/1/2/...nap-on-defense

Direckshun 02-24-2017 03:57 PM

Ha!

That's really ****ing cool.

Red Dawg 02-24-2017 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12755487)
My favorite is how everyone on here in week 4 said Dorsey was failing at his job

ROFL

He is failing is some respects for instance at the QB position. We have won jack shit so let's not blow him just yet.

gblowfish 02-24-2017 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 12755396)
Chiefs trade 3rd pick for Kaepernick, mark it down.

We'll take him over and introduce him to the boys at the VFW HQs on Broadway.

gblowfish 02-24-2017 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 12755574)
He is failing is some respects for instance at the QB position. We have won jack shit so let's not blow him just yet.

Well, we did sweep the AFC West and win the division this year. That's not exactly "Jack shit." But still haven't made it to an AFC Championship game or God Forbid a SB....

Jerok 02-24-2017 04:05 PM

I would use all the picks to draft really good players, or trade up for even better players, or trade down for more, not so good but still pretty good players.

Direckshun 02-24-2017 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerok (Post 12755592)
I would use all the picks to draft really good players, or trade up for even better players, or trade down for more, not so good but still pretty good players.

Somebody get this man's resume to One Arrowhead Drive.

Urc Burry 02-24-2017 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 12755512)
I don't know. I think the Russell debacle was probably the worst stain on Dorsey since he's been GM, so I don't know how to put a happy face on that.

I don't see what the big deal is. We've drafted a ton of corners the last 2 years. Not everyone is going to make it. He got beat out by Murray and White who I believe were 4th and 6th rounders. Would it make you feel better had we cut White instead?

SAUTO 02-24-2017 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12755487)
My favorite is how everyone on here in week 4 said Dorsey was failing at his job

ROFL

Link that up, or shut the **** up and quit lying

In58men 02-24-2017 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut View Post
My favorite is how everyone on here in week 4 said Dorsey was failing at his job


Quote:

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 12755624)
Link that up, or shut the **** up and quit lying

https://i.makeagif.com/media/8-08-2014/Bg3Qve.gif

The Franchise 02-24-2017 04:30 PM

ROFL Bowser, TimBone and Jason are totally DX.

http://pa1.narvii.com/5787/5755ded22...94aeac7_hq.gif

staylor26 02-24-2017 04:33 PM

:facepalm:

Giving Dorsey shit for missing on Russell while completely ignoring that he found an absolute gem in Mitchell to make up for it. CP never fails.

DaWolf 02-24-2017 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 12755512)
I don't know. I think the Russell debacle was probably the worst stain on Dorsey since he's been GM, so I don't know how to put a happy face on that.

There had to be something behind the scenes on that one. I don't know how an organization known for patience and teaching so that guys pay off in 2-3 years just cuts bait on a pick like that. Somebody misread Russell in the FO. It is ultimately Dorsey's call, but to draft that guy there, someone else in the room must have been banging the table hard for him...

The Franchise 02-24-2017 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 12755652)
There had to be something behind the scenes on that one. I don't know how an organization known for patience and teaching so that guys pay off in 2-3 years just cuts bait on a pick like that. Somebody misread Russell in the FO. It is ultimately Dorsey's call, but to draft that guy there, someone else in the room must have been banging the table hard for him...

My guess was that he was humble throughout the draft process and then ran his mouth when he got in the door. Probably expected to be a starter opposite of Peters.

Or was very vocal about not getting playing time right off the bat.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 02-24-2017 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12755651)
:facepalm:

Giving Dorsey shit for missing on Russell while completely ignoring that he found an absolute gem in Mitchell to make up for it. CP never fails.

Welcome back!!

Amnorix 02-24-2017 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urc Burry (Post 12755428)
I didn't know that depending on the year certain rounds get more/less comp picks.. assumed it was slotted. There were a TON of 3rd rounders this year. 11. Compared to just 3 7th rounders


It's not dependent on the year, ti's dependent on the contract amounts, and performance, of the players lost in FA. With the salary cap climbing rapidly, more big $$ contracts were given out, and so more higher round comp picks earned.

RunKC 02-24-2017 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 12755501)
Hey now.

I've been assured by Dane and his minions that Dorsey's handling of the KeiVarae Russell monstrosity was the move of a "boss GM."

Sure, he had an almost unparalleled failure of a 3rd round draft pick, but he was smart enough to cut him immediately?

I love Dorsey, and hope he stays here for the rest of my adult lifetime. But the way CP makes excuses for the Russell debacle puzzles me.

Making the mistake was really bad, but finding Terrance Mitchell made up for it.

Every GM has bad misses. Hell even Belichick cut his first round DL from Florida after like 2 years.

Amnorix 02-24-2017 04:52 PM

Interesting Article:


Quote:

Compensatory picks are a reward for smart teams

When the NFL implemented compensatory draft picks in 1994, the idea was that the extra picks would lend a hand to the teams that got out-spent in free agency, which was then new in the league: Compensatory picks go to teams that lose more in free agency than they gain, and so the picks were envisioned as a safeguard against the rich raiding the rosters of the poor.

It hasn’t worked out that way, however. In a league with revenue sharing and a salary cap, there’s not much of a distinction between the rich and the poor.

Instead, compensatory picks have turned out to reward smart teams. The teams that have been wise about not over-spending in free agency and keeping themselves in good salary cap shape are the ones that keep getting lots of compensatory picks, while the teams that overspend in free agency are the ones that don’t receive compensatory picks.

As a result, the consistently good teams tend to be the teams that consistently get a lot of compensatory picks. And the teams that consistently try to spend themselves out of last place are the ones that don’t get a lot of compensatory picks.

The list of teams that have received the most compensatory picks since 1994 is pretty similar to the list of the best teams in football since 1994: The Ravens have received the most compensatory picks, and they’ve won two Super Bowls. The Packers have received the second-most, and they’ve also won two Super Bowls. The Patriots are fourth, and they’ve won five Super Bowls. The 10 teams that have had the most compensatory picks have won most of the Super Bowls since 1994, with a total of 14 titles for those 10 teams.

At the other end of the spectrum, the teams that don’t receive a lot of compensatory picks tend to be bad teams: There are 14 teams that have received fewer than 20 compensatory picks since the system started in 1994, and those 14 teams have won a combined two Super Bowls.

Compensatory picks help teams stock their roster with low-cost depth, which is helpful, but the real reason teams with a lot of compensatory picks do well is that teams with a lot of compensatory picks are good at managing their salary caps. A system that was supposed to reward the poor at the expense of the rich has actually rewarded the smart at the expense of the dumb.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...r-smart-teams/

TribalElder 02-24-2017 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 12755353)
Countdown to when the NFL takes away picks for the Conley injury in the steeler game.

Didn't he score zero touchdowns last season after working with maclin in the offseason ROFL

Amnorix 02-24-2017 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12755665)
Making the mistake was really bad, but finding Terrance Mitchell made up for it.

Every GM has bad misses. Hell even Belichick cut his first round DL from Florida after like 2 years.


I can list them all, and there are plenty. Laurence Maroney in teh first round is a pretty big one.

Also, look at the last couple of drafts for the Pats. Top 3 rounds have been pretty ugly TBH. But his moves in free agency, and later round picks, have made up for it to a pretty big degree.

big nasty kcnut 02-24-2017 05:10 PM

Their not signing romo. Also Alex Smith is our qb del with it.

BossChief 02-24-2017 05:15 PM

So KC will have 11 draft picks as most of us that follow this thought.

Now it's time for Dorsey to package some picks to go get some BIGTIME Impact guys.

No way more than 7 draft picks make the roster. If that many.

Quality > quantity

GO GET US A 2018 STARTING QB, DORSE!

Titty Meat 02-24-2017 05:16 PM

Use the 1st and 2 3s to move up and get the QB you want

In58men 02-24-2017 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12755651)
:facepalm:

Giving Dorsey shit for missing on Russell while completely ignoring that he found an absolute gem in Mitchell to make up for it. CP never fails.

Mitchell is a gem already? That was fast.

Spott 02-24-2017 06:17 PM

Four more draft picks that won't be used on a QB.

HemiEd 02-24-2017 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 12755372)
Hopefully (and the Chiefs never do this) they can package some of that surplus together to go up early and grab someone they really want in the 1st.

I think from memory Ryan Sims was the last time they actually moved up in the first, but I could be forgetting something. I think they almost ****ed that up with the Vikings right behind. I could be wrong, but they have more of a tendancy to move down.

Rain Man 02-24-2017 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 12755757)
I think from memory Ryan Sims was the last time they actually moved up in the first, but I could be forgetting something. I think they almost ****ed that up with the Vikings right behind. I could be wrong, but they have more of a tendancy to move down.

I think they would've been better off if the Vikings had jumped them to get Ryan Sims.

The only other notable tradeups I recall are Neil Smith and Tony Gonzalez, but I have some memory of a recent tradeup in a lower round to get somebody, like in the past five years. Anyone remember?

Coochie liquor 02-24-2017 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerok (Post 12755592)
I would use all the picks to draft really good players, or trade up for even better players, or trade down for more, not so good but still pretty good players.

This!!

penchief 02-24-2017 06:51 PM

I know the packers cut loose of Knile Davis not long after the trade but I don't remember that being a conditional draft pick. I just remember something about a late round pick. Does anyone know if we are owed anything from Green Bay?

SAUTO 02-24-2017 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penchief (Post 12755794)
I know the packers cut loose of Knile Davis not long after the trade but I don't remember that being a conditional draft pick. I just remember something about a late round pick. Does anyone know if we are owed anything from Green Bay?

No

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-24-2017 06:55 PM

Mahomes.

MahiMike 02-24-2017 06:58 PM

Wow. They can TRADE comp picks now? Awesome.

RunKC 02-24-2017 07:27 PM

Really don't care what Dorsey and Andy do. Hell I don't care if they trade into the 2nd rd like last year as long as they get their QB.

Hopefully Andy learned from waiting and missing on Russell Wilson bc he thought he could get him in the 3rd rd. He'd still be in Philly if he just pulled the trigger

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-24-2017 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12755841)
Really don't care what Dorsey and Andy do. Hell I don't care if they trade into the 2nd rd like last year as long as they get their QB.

Hopefully Andy learned from waiting and missing on Russell Wilson bc he thought he could get him in the 3rd rd. He'd still be in Philly if he just pulled the trigger

God DAMN I wish he had pulled that trigger...

NJChiefsFan 02-24-2017 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12755487)
My favorite is how everyone on here in week 4 said Dorsey was failing at his job

ROFL

Everyone? LMAOLMAO Most of the posters here love Dorsey.

The hyperbole you will use to try and feel smarter.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-24-2017 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 12755871)
Everyone? LMAOLMAO Most of the posters here love Dorsey.

The hyperbole you will use to try and feel smarter.

Tigger is the most useless thing to ever happen to CP. Ever.

Tigger makes most users long for a server crash.

Palko 4 ever 02-24-2017 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagnabit (Post 12755802)
Mahomes.

This, use those picks to trade up in front of the Texans and draft Mahomes.

Mr. Laz 02-24-2017 08:59 PM

NFL will swipe that 3rd for Conley.

New World Order 02-24-2017 09:02 PM

That's a fantastic signature, Laz.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-24-2017 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12755938)
That's a fantastic signature, Laz.

Truly magnificent. A 5-second summary of all things ReidSmith.

ReidSmith:

When regular season good times are all that really matter.

ReidSmith:

When screens and dump-offs, sold to you as a "complex offense", make you really believe that "not just any QB" could run such a highly complex mechanism.

ReidSmith:

reeruned offense for reeruned people.

Nickhead 02-24-2017 09:18 PM

don't recall anyone pointing out maclin's actions on that play. how funny is it, he looks at hill, back at alex, back to hill and is like.... dood, did you see how wide open he was ROFL

New World Order 02-24-2017 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagnabit (Post 12755950)
Truly magnificent. A 5-second summary of all things ReidSmith.

ReidSmith:

When regular season good times are all that really matter.

ReidSmith:

When screens and dump-offs, sold to you as a "complex offense", make you really believe that "not just any QB" could run such a highly complex mechanism.

ReidSmith:

reeruned offense for reeruned people.


LMAO

I read that as something of a musical intro to a comedy show.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-24-2017 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12755958)
LMAO

I read that as something of a musical intro to a comedy show.

:)

Mr. Laz 02-24-2017 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12755938)
That's a fantastic signature, Laz.

I wonder if the mod that put that signature on my account will get banned?

It's too large according to board rule

Wait until the sig nazi(bob dole) sees it


Not to mention altering a user's account without permission.


I imagine it was the same piece of shit mod who removed my ability to report violations.


douchebags running the asylum nowadays

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-24-2017 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12755972)
I wonder if the mod that put that signature on my account will get banned?

It's too large according to board rule

Wait until the sig nazi(bob dole) sees it


Not to mention altering a user's account without permission.


I imagine it was the same piece of shit mod who removed my ability to report violations.


douchebags running the asylum nowadays

ROFL :deevee:

God damn I love this new administration!

Nothing but positive changes up in this bitch these days.

bigjosh 02-24-2017 10:10 PM

don't know if anyone posted it in here or not, but here are the picks we received.

3rd - 104 Overall

5th - 180 Overall

6th - 216 Overall

6th - 218 Overall.

Mr. Laz 02-24-2017 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagnabit (Post 12755984)
ROFL :deevee:

God damn I love this new administration!

Nothing but positive changes up in this bitch these days.

It does fit right along with the new Whitehouse Administration


I guess it's just the future.

Pasta Little Brioni 02-24-2017 10:36 PM

Dorsey schooling Horsey yet again.

Chief Northman 02-24-2017 10:40 PM

I don't doubt a lot of fortune was involved, but holy jumping Jeebus that Schwartz signing by Dorsey last off-season may have been his shrewdest move to date. To have him as an acquistion and not factor into the compensatory pick formula is just awesome. Then you look at Dungver and Okung.... LOL.

BryanBusby 02-24-2017 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 12756039)
I don't doubt a lot of fortune was involved, but holy jumping Jeebus that Schwartz signing by Dorsey last off-season may have been his shrewdest move to date. To have him as an acquistion and not factor into the compensatory pick formula is just awesome. Then you look at Dungver and Okung.... LOL.

He nullified any option of a comp pick for Jeff Allen.

BossChief 02-24-2017 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 12755763)
I think they would've been better off if the Vikings had jumped them to get Ryan Sims.

The only other notable tradeups I recall are Neil Smith and Tony Gonzalez, but I have some memory of a recent tradeup in a lower round to get somebody, like in the past five years. Anyone remember?

Conley

Hoover 02-24-2017 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 12756040)
He nullified any option of a comp pick for Jeff Allen.

It was totally worth it IMO.

What are we at in total compensatory picks under Dorsey, its now up to 8 or 9 draft picks, which is amazing.

Its going to be a fun draft. Plenty of ammo to move around. Real needs are at ILB and Saftey if we can't ink Berry. Positions with the most active roster space is QB and LB.


Pretty easy to grab an interior linemen with one of those 3rds.

Smed1065 02-24-2017 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12756034)
It does fit right along with the new Whitehouse Administration


I guess it's just the future.


Its bad when Smed asks WTF!

Just saying.

BryanBusby 02-24-2017 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 12756053)
It was totally worth it IMO.

What are we at in total compensatory picks under Dorsey, its now up to 8 or 9 draft picks, which is amazing.

Its going to be a fun draft. Plenty of ammo to move around. Real needs are at ILB and Saftey if we can't ink Berry. Positions with the most active roster space is QB and LB.


Pretty easy to grab an interior linemen with one of those 3rds.

Yeah. Trading out capt brokedick for Schwartz was a great move.

Smed1065 02-24-2017 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 12756062)
Yeah. Trading out capt brokedick for Schwartz was a great move.

WTF?

BryanBusby 02-24-2017 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smed1065 (Post 12756069)
WTF?

It's pretty simple.

Mitchell Schwartz is a better option than Jeff Allen and letting Jeff Allen walk and allocatingthat money to get one of the best RTs was ace as hell.

In case you forgot, Jeff Allen is made from weak old glass.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-24-2017 11:25 PM

They need to get a stupid team to give them a first in 2018, and now they have excess capital.

Best possible scenario is for them to get a team with a dumbass GM to take their late first and a fourth for a third and a future first.


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