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Quesadilla Joe 02-26-2017 07:07 PM

Berry hopeful for a long-term deal, unwilling to play on tag
 
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Safety Eric Berry said he was hopeful he could come to an agreement on a long-term contract with the Chiefs before Wednesday's deadline for teams to designate franchise players. "I'm just being patient because you never know . . . I'm not getting my hopes up," Berry said. Berry said he hasn't changed his earlier stance that he wouldn't play with the Chiefs for the second straight season on the franchise tag. "I still stand by that," Berry said.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> S Eric Berry says his agent has continued to speak with the Chiefs. Clark Hunt also made it clear both sides &quot;want to get it done&quot;</p>&mdash; Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/status/835992619520036865">February 26, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 12758653)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> will likely tag Eric Berry and let Dontari Poe walk, per <a href="https://twitter.com/Edwerderespn">@Edwerderespn</a> <a href="https://t.co/St0K65nkyk">https://t.co/St0K65nkyk</a></p>&mdash; Arrowhead Addict (@ArrowheadAddict) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadAddict/status/836207824560615424">February 27, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Sweet Daddy Hate 02-26-2017 07:14 PM

He might be a little disgruntled, but he will play on the tag if push comes to shove.

But it won't.

He'll be signed shortly.

Tombstone RJ 02-26-2017 07:22 PM

Berry wants paid. KC has little cap space. Tough choices have to be made.

Spott 02-26-2017 07:24 PM

Denver sucks ass.

threebag 02-26-2017 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Spott (Post 12758196)
Denver sucks ass.

And dicks, bags of them.

Rain Man 02-26-2017 07:27 PM

Do what Denver does and offer him a consultant position after he retires, paid in advance without telling anyone.

notorious 02-26-2017 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 12758199)
Do what Denver does and offer him a consultant position after he retires, paid in advance without telling anyone.

.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-26-2017 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 12758195)
Berry wants paid. KC has little cap space. Tough choices have to be made.

So long, Mr. Poe.

Chiefspants 02-26-2017 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagnabit (Post 12758184)
He might be a little disgruntled, but he will play on the tag if push comes to shove.

But it won't.

He'll be signed shortly.

I think everyone is very gruntled.

Spott 02-26-2017 07:53 PM

I'm glad there's not already a thread on this that's been on the front page for the last 6 months.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-26-2017 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 12758226)
I think everyone is very gruntled.

LMAO

Chief Roundup 02-26-2017 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Spott (Post 12758232)
I'm glad there's not already a thread on this that's been on the front page for the last 6 months.

**** mega threads. There should be an automatic maximum post limit for threads.

Quesadilla Joe 02-26-2017 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Spott (Post 12758232)
I'm glad there's not already a thread on this that's been on the front page for the last 6 months.

Recent news gets buried in megathreads. A new quote from Berry on his contract situation is thread worthy, IMO.

Bugeater 02-26-2017 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Spott (Post 12758232)
I'm glad there's not already a thread on this that's been on the front page for the last 6 months.

That thread is not for actual news, that thread is for poo flinging.

This is barely news though.

Hoover 02-26-2017 07:59 PM

Takes less cap space to sign him to a longterm deal than tag him.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-26-2017 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Spott (Post 12758232)
I'm glad there's not already a thread on this that's been on the front page for the last 6 months.

And deny Tiger a chance to derail? Surely you jest!

DaFace 02-26-2017 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 12758243)
That thread is not for actual news, that thread is for poo flinging.

This is barely news though.

It's the offseason. It's all we've got.

Spott 02-26-2017 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12758238)
Recent news gets buried in megathreads. A new quote from Berry on his contract situation is thread worthy, IMO.

That you couldn't have just posted in the thread you created.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-26-2017 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Spott (Post 12758253)
That you couldn't have just posted in the thread you created.

He asked DaFace for permission before creating the thread.

dlphg9 02-26-2017 08:07 PM

I don't see a problem with a new thread. Other one is a shit show.

Quesadilla Joe 02-26-2017 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Spott (Post 12758253)
That you couldn't have just posted in the thread you created.

Not everyone wants to sift through a 1,000+ post thread, especially one that has veered so far off course recently.

Bugeater 02-26-2017 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 12758250)
It's the offseason. It's all we've got.

That's true. Something HAS to happen by Wednesday or this will turn into a real shit show.

The other thread needed to die anyway.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 02-26-2017 08:16 PM

Dorsey should do the unpopular thing here and franchise tag him if he's going to play hard ball. For the games he holds out in, it gives us an opportunity to develop Eric murray.

Then as the season progresses he'll have no choice but to play or risk having his stock drop further.

Reerun_KC 02-26-2017 08:20 PM

So this is the EB news thread and the other is the troll spam thread?

Chiefspants 02-26-2017 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12758265)
Dorsey should do the unpopular thing here and franchise tag him if he's going to play hard ball. For the games he holds out in, it gives us an opportunity to develop Eric murray.

Then as the season progresses he'll have no choice but to play or risk having his stock drop further.

The transition tag is the way to go.

DaFace 02-26-2017 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 12758275)
So this is the EB news thread and the other is the troll spam thread?

This is AN EB news thread. There can be others. It's an amazing concept.

Reerun_KC 02-26-2017 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 12758281)
This is AN EB news thread. There can be others. It's an amazing concept.


K

Coochie liquor 02-26-2017 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 12758236)
**** mega threads. There should be an automatic maximum post limit for threads.

Then how the hell are we ever gonna count to a million in the romper room??

Chief Roundup 02-26-2017 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 12758346)
Then how the hell are we ever gonna count to a million in the romper room??

Add thread totals together... :shrug:

kcchiefsus 02-26-2017 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 12758195)
Berry wants paid. KC has little cap space. Tough choices have to be made.

Water is wet, your mother is a whore. Hello Captain Obvious.

kcchiefsus 02-26-2017 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 12758199)
Do what Denver does and offer him a consultant position after he retires, paid in advance without telling anyone.

And grease his uniform...

kcchiefsus 02-26-2017 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12758260)
Not everyone wants to sift through a 1,000+ post thread, especially one that has veered so far off course recently.

And absolutely nobody wants to read shit posted by you. Go **** yourself.

BryanBusby 02-26-2017 09:30 PM

The Chiefs likely aren't going to part ways with Houston anytime soon, so they could convert almost all of his like 16 million base into a SB. After this year they can do a lot of cost-cutting.

Eleazar 02-26-2017 10:12 PM

They'll get a deal done. He's the type of player the Chiefs have historically made long term commitments to.

Not without some posturing and not without CP on suicide watch, but I'm guessing a deal will get done before the season.

BossChief 02-26-2017 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 12758280)
The transition tag is the way to go.

I'm surprised nobody in the media has brought it up. I know a lot of them read CP and I've been taking about it for weeks.

The smartest thing KC can do with Berry is transition tag him. See what he can get on the open market and decide to give him true market value or let him walk if it's too much...but that's fair to Berry and the team.

If KC franchise tags Berry, that 13m goes on the books -in full- the moment he's tagged. That would hurt a team that's so close to the cap, like KC.

It would severely limit what the team can do at other positions...especially if Berry sticks to his word and sits out.

Eleazar 02-26-2017 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12758487)
I'm surprised nobody in the media has brought it up. I know a lot of them read CP and I've been taking about it for weeks.

The smartest thing KC can do with Berry is transition tag him. See what he can get on the open market and decide to give him true market value or let him walk if it's too much...but that's fair to Berry and the team.

If KC franchise tags Berry, that 13m goes on the books -in full- the moment he's tagged. That would hurt a team that's so close to the cap, like KC.

It would severely limit what the team can do at other positions...especially if Berry sticks to his word and sits out.

If he's not going to play under the franchise tag, he's not going to play under the transition tag either.

-King- 02-26-2017 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 12758495)
If he's not going to play under the franchise tag, he's not going to play under the transition tag either.

You don't play under a transition tag. It just gives your team rights to first refusal if you get a contract offer.
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BossChief 02-26-2017 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 12758495)
If he's not going to play under the franchise tag, he's not going to play under the transition tag either.

What do you mean?

The transition tag means Berry is basically an unrestricted free agent thats free to negotiate with all 32 teams.

Once he agrees to a contract with another team, KC has 7 days for the right to sign Eric to that exact contract or to let him walk and get no compensation.

It's basically a "right of first refusal".

Eleazar 02-26-2017 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12758504)
What do you mean?

The transition tag means Berry is basically an unrestricted free agent thats free to negotiate with all 32 teams.

Once he agrees to a contract with another team, KC has 7 days for the right to sign Eric to that exact contract or to let him walk and get no compensation.

It's basically a "right of first refusal".

But it's taking leverage away from him that he would have if he were a UFA, isn't it? I don't see any reason why he would negotiate with other teams at all. Why couldn't he just say he's holding out regardless unless he gets the deal he wants?

How many times has it been used in recent years, and the original team retained the player in the end?

cdcox 02-26-2017 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Spott (Post 12758232)
I'm glad there's not already a thread on this that's been on the front page for the last 6 months.

Glad to have a fresh thread for new developments. I seldom check mega threads after a week or so.

BossChief 02-26-2017 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 12758513)
But it's taking leverage away from him that he would have if he were a UFA, isn't it? I don't see any reason why he would negotiate with other teams at all. Why couldn't he just say he's holding out regardless unless he gets the deal he wants?

How many times has it been used in recent years, and the original team retained the player in the end?

The a Broncos used it on CJ Anderson last offseason and it helped them sign him long term.

bevischief 02-27-2017 04:01 AM

Midget aids.

Hog's Gone Fishin 02-27-2017 07:01 AM

The transition Tag would be good for Berry. For the Chiefs I think not so much.

Red Dawg 02-27-2017 07:07 AM

His demands must be insane. Last year it didn't happen and now it's not happening again. Greedy bastard can go **** himself and take all his bullshit love talk with him. We did right by him and now he's acting like an asshole.

Mr_Tomahawk 02-27-2017 07:47 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> will likely tag Eric Berry and let Dontari Poe walk, per <a href="https://twitter.com/Edwerderespn">@Edwerderespn</a> <a href="https://t.co/St0K65nkyk">https://t.co/St0K65nkyk</a></p>&mdash; Arrowhead Addict (@ArrowheadAddict) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadAddict/status/836207824560615424">February 27, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

rico 02-27-2017 08:16 AM

So what happens to our cap space if we cut Smith? Trust me, I know this won't happen...just wondering...one can fantasize.

Eleazar 02-27-2017 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 12758653)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> will likely tag Eric Berry and let Dontari Poe walk, per <a href="https://twitter.com/Edwerderespn">@Edwerderespn</a> <a href="https://t.co/St0K65nkyk">https://t.co/St0K65nkyk</a></p>&mdash; Arrowhead Addict (@ArrowheadAddict) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadAddict/status/836207824560615424">February 27, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

If Poe were completely healthy it would be a harder choice, but with the back problems, you can't choose him over Berry.

I am sure the contract will get done with Berry and I wish Poe well.

ARROW2 02-27-2017 08:35 AM

[QUOTE=Cochise;12758671]If Poe were completely healthy it would be a harder choice, but with the back problems, you can't choose him over Berry.

I am sure the contract will get done with Berry and I wish Poe well.[/QUOTE]

Unless he becomes a Faider

TigeRRUppeRRcut 02-27-2017 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 12758653)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> will likely tag Eric Berry and let Dontari Poe walk, per <a href="https://twitter.com/Edwerderespn">@Edwerderespn</a> <a href="https://t.co/St0K65nkyk">https://t.co/St0K65nkyk</a></p>&mdash; Arrowhead Addict (@ArrowheadAddict) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadAddict/status/836207824560615424">February 27, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is exactly what I was hoping for. Eric Murray better be ready! Put the heat on Berry to come out and perform. Berry loses a ton of cash and future value if he doesn't play a significant part of the season

RunKC 02-27-2017 09:13 AM

This will get resolved but it will take until the deadline in July. There was no way this was getting done so early.

No surprise here.

Hoover 02-27-2017 09:19 AM

This is just hardball.

Chiefs basically telling Berry's people lets get this done, we will use the tag if we have to. Also a good trial balloon on letting Poe walk. These are just tactics. Still think Berry is signed by Wednesday, but Poe is gone.

Quesadilla Joe 02-27-2017 09:41 AM

The Chiefs have known for nearly a year what Berry's number is, and he's shown that he's not going to budge from it. Playing the tag game with him again isn't going to get him to lower his asking price. They should just get a deal done or tag and trade him.

RunKC 02-27-2017 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12758763)
The Chiefs have known for nearly a year what Berry's number is, and he's shown that he's not going to budge from it. Playing the tag game with him again isn't going to get him to lower his asking price. They should just get a deal done or tag and trade him.

The cap went up which means the % of his deal went up. It's a new year.

DeepSouth 02-27-2017 11:33 AM

Here's why I would be hesitant to sign Berry to a long term contract;

http://www.everydayhealth.com/lympho...omes-back.aspx

The American Cancer Society estimates that there will be approximately 8,830 new cases of Hodgkin lymphoma diagnosed this year. Of those, says Anas Younes, MD, director of clinical and translational research in the department of lymphoma and myeloma at the University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, “about 20 percent will relapse or become refractory [resistant to primary treatment], often within two years of when the individual finishes treatment.”

BlackHelicopters 02-27-2017 11:40 AM

4 Berry threads on front page. ****ing morons.

DaFace 02-27-2017 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 12758932)
4 Berry threads on front page. ****ing morons.

Yet there's more on-topic conversation in those threads by far. Wonder why...

Rausch 02-27-2017 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 12758932)
4 Berry threads on front page. ****ing morons.

He's the heart of this team like no one has been since DT...

Eleazar 02-27-2017 12:36 PM

There are plenty of us who don't usually look at a thread after 4 or 5 pages, since it's usually devolved into nothing useful.

A significant development getting its own thread is great.

Black Bob 02-27-2017 03:44 PM

My thoughts are pretty simple on this - pay the man...

We won't make a Superbowl in the next five years without Berry. Peters and Kelce will be unleashed and the inmates will run the asylum. It took a long time to find leadership. I believe that he won't play under the tag. If Dorsey doesn't get him locked up, it will be his biggest failure. You don't let Hall of Famers walk and he is the only HOFer on the team.

Rausch 02-27-2017 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Bob (Post 12759356)
My thoughts are pretty simple on this - pay the man...

QFT...

TribalElder 02-27-2017 06:16 PM

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2017/2...-safety-in-nfl
Report says Eric Berry, Chiefs working on deal to make him highest paid safety in NFL

Dante84 02-27-2017 06:23 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If Eric Berry takes anything less than $12.96M this year and a 20-percent bump for next year fully guaranteed, Chiefs are getting a deal.</p>&mdash; ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/836370509470257155">February 28, 2017</a></blockquote>
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ToxSocks 02-27-2017 06:29 PM

Don't use Twitter so not sure how to embed a tweet but...

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/sta...61185968721920

TLO 02-27-2017 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 12758236)
**** mega threads. There should be an automatic maximum post limit for threads.

Amen

Chief Roundup 02-27-2017 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 12759821)
Don't use Twitter so not sure how to embed a tweet but...

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/sta...61185968721920

In the upper right hand corner there is an icon like ^ but it points down click on it, that is where those options are located.


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