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Urc Burry 03-13-2017 01:18 PM

Chiefs sign Bennie Logan
 
Per Terez... 1 year deal

The Franchise 03-13-2017 01:19 PM

3rd round pick of the Eagles in 2013.

6'2" 315 lbs.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-13-2017 01:20 PM

Turd?

The Franchise 03-13-2017 01:20 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is true: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> are signing former Philly DT Bennie Logan, per sources. Could be replacement for Poe. <a href="https://t.co/QxTklOEUCc">https://t.co/QxTklOEUCc</a></p>&mdash; Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/status/841367818079723520">March 13, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Easy 6 03-13-2017 01:22 PM

To the ship!

RippedmyFlesh 03-13-2017 01:22 PM

Good bye Poe.

nychief 03-13-2017 01:22 PM

Bennie and the Chiefs.

jd1020 03-13-2017 01:23 PM

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Dante84 03-13-2017 01:24 PM

Quote:

Logan spent the past four years with the Eagles, becoming a starter midway through his first season and formed a strong front alongside Fletcher Cox. But Logan is not considered a strong pass-rusher with 5.5 career sacks, one reason Philadelphia allowed him to hit the market. The Eagles, and other teams, do not want to overpay for who they consider a two-down player. And that's one reason some reports suggest Logan might be seeking a one-year deal, not being able to find what he wants on the open market.
http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-...g-bennie-logan

DJ's left nut 03-13-2017 01:24 PM

Like him coming out in the draft.

Hasn't really done much, though. Ideally he's little more than a depth signing. He could be a solid rotational player but he's not 'the answer' to any question worth asking.

The Franchise 03-13-2017 01:25 PM

There's your NT.

Dante84 03-13-2017 01:25 PM

Quote:

Logan is the Eagles' best run-stopper and his play has a significant impact on the performance of two-time Pro Bowler Fletcher Cox. Last season, Logan finished with 24 tackles and 2.5 sacks in 12 games.
http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2...nie_logan.html

Chris Jones / Jaye Howard / Allen Bailey rape fest

BlackHelicopters 03-13-2017 01:25 PM

Print 'em.

nychief 03-13-2017 01:26 PM

Very Dorsey signing.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-13-2017 01:27 PM

He will definitely help our run D though. Good move.

Urc Burry 03-13-2017 01:29 PM

Now get Hodges signed and call FA a win

The Franchise 03-13-2017 01:30 PM

Chiefs signed DT Bennie Logan, formerly of the Eagles, to a one-year contract.

Logan's addition means free agent Dontari Poe is likely to walk. Logan can slide right in at nose tackle. He's a downgrade, but not a particularly steep one. The move could end up being a wash for Kansas City, one that saves money.

Dante84 03-13-2017 01:31 PM

He's a run stuffer. We got gashed on the ground this year.

This makes a ton of sense.

Dante84 03-13-2017 01:32 PM

Also, his back isn't always ****ed up. So while a slight downgrade in terms of upside compared to Poe, the risk for injury is significantly reduced.

Oh, and we aren't breaking the bank.

BradBigglestein 03-13-2017 01:33 PM

Tremendous signing by the Chiefs. He isn't a big name, but he is a very good player. He is stout vs the run and gets the occasion push in the passing game. He is technically sound and was a cornerstone of our defensive line. Many players on the line said he was the "glue guy" who made it all work.

He will be a very solid addition to the Chiefs. He's a really really good guy to boot. Class act.

We'll miss him in Philly!

DJ's left nut 03-13-2017 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12781189)
Chiefs signed DT Bennie Logan, formerly of the Eagles, to a one-year contract.

Logan's addition means free agent Dontari Poe is likely to walk. Logan can slide right in at nose tackle. He's a downgrade, but not a particularly steep one. The move could end up being a wash for Kansas City, one that saves money.

It's funny - the more you read, the more you realize that Poe's reputation in league circles has CRATERED the last two years. I read something a couple of weeks ago regarding his film and there was a scout that said he was among the worst interior defensive lineman he saw on tape last year.

I think as fans we have a bit of a blind spot to him because we remember when he was great and the shit he does on offense is fun. But the more I read, the more you have to conclude that he was a fairly substantial part of the problem last year. Dude's back injury really wrecked him.

His multi-city tour seems to suggest same. He's clearly not getting the offers he wants and he's going to keep bouncing around and trying to drum up interest. It wouldn't surprise me to see him end up somewhere on a 1-year deal, have that back flare up on him and slowly fade away.

If he could get something like 4/$32 with at least half of that guaranteed, he may be wise to jump on it. It's looking like his decline was pretty fierce.

RunKC 03-13-2017 01:35 PM

He's a solid run stuffer which we badly need and this draft is weak in that regard.

We play nickel like 60% of the time so I don't imagine we'll need him to play too many snaps.

ChiliConCarnage 03-13-2017 01:35 PM

Sounds like he'll be a good fit for our needs

Mr. Laz 03-13-2017 01:37 PM

Bennie Thompson?

The Franchise 03-13-2017 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12781196)
It's funny - the more you read, the more you realize that Poe's reputation in league circles has CRATERED the last two years. I read something a couple of weeks ago regarding his film and there was a scout that said he was among the worst interior defensive lineman he saw on tape last year.

I think as fans we have a bit of a blind spot to him because we remember when he was great and the shit he does on offense is fun. But the more I read, the more you have to conclude that he was a fairly substantial part of the problem last year. Dude's back injury really wrecked him.

His multi-city tour seems to suggest same. He's clearly not getting the offers he wants and he's going to keep bouncing around and trying to drum up interest. It wouldn't surprise me to see him end up somewhere on a 1-year deal, have that back flare up on him and slowly fade away.

If he could get something like 4/$32 with at least half of that guaranteed, he may be wise to jump on it. It's looking like his decline was pretty fierce.

He'll end up signing with Atlanta. Pioli will talk Dmitrioff into it.

thabear04 03-13-2017 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 12781180)
http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2...nie_logan.html

Chris Jones / Jaye Howard / Allen Bailey rape fest

Could Jones play NT?

Titty Meat 03-13-2017 01:43 PM

Camp fodder

pugsnotdrugs19 03-13-2017 01:43 PM

I am expecting this to be an upgrade to Poe. The truth is, as DJLN eluded to, Poe is coasting on name value right now. This isn't like Sean Smith last year where the guy was good as he left. Poe hasn't been very good the past two years at all, a lot of it probably due to the back.

I hope to see Sutton use a steady rotation up front with Jones, Bailey, Logan, Howard and RNR. Don't overload those big guys. Keep them fresh all season and healthy.

O.city 03-13-2017 01:44 PM

A young devito type player?

And yeah, I think we all collectively overrated the **** out of Poe.

The Franchise 03-13-2017 01:45 PM

Same age as Poe, no back issues and less pass rush.

In58men 03-13-2017 01:46 PM

Good fit.....way to go Dorsey.....great contract low risk high reward....Dorsey is a genius...


/TypicalCPbullshitaftermedicoresignings

nychief 03-13-2017 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12781217)
A young devito type player?

And yeah, I think we all collectively overrated the **** out of Poe.

I think we are overating 2013-14 poe... He was a monster. But as soon as his back gave out, he was a time bomb. Got 5 good years out of a 1st rnder.... I'll take it. Via con dios, Piggy.

Titty Meat 03-13-2017 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12781216)
I am expecting this to be an upgrade to Poe. The truth is, as DJLN eluded to, Poe is coasting on name value right now. This isn't like Sean Smith last year where the guy was good as he left. Poe hasn't been very good the past two years at all, a lot of it probably due to the back.

I hope to see Sutton use a steady rotation up front with Jones, Bailey, Logan, Howard and RNR. Don't overload those big guys. Keep them fresh all season and healthy.

Seems like Poe only had 1 good game that was the SNF @Denver then he hurt his back that game and didn't do shit the rest of the year. The excuse for him was he was always getting double teamed and none of us wanted to admit the truth,

Mr. Laz 03-13-2017 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12781216)
I am expecting this to be an upgrade to Poe. The truth is, as DJLN eluded to, Poe is coasting on name value right now. This isn't like Sean Smith last year where the guy was good as he left. Poe hasn't been very good the past two years at all, a lot of it probably due to the back.

I hope to see Sutton use a steady rotation up front with Jones, Bailey, Logan, Howard and RNR. Don't overload those big guys. Keep them fresh all season and healthy.

still waiting on Sutton to rotate

Sutton played the guy with a bad back about 75% of the plays iirc I think there were only 3 or 4 Dline that played more than Poe and they were all DE and ROLB type guys.

If Poe wasn't playing well then why did Sutton leave him out there constantly?

Titty Meat 03-13-2017 01:49 PM

Logan has 1 more sack than Poe the last 2 years

pugsnotdrugs19 03-13-2017 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12781225)
still waiting on Sutton to rotate

Sutton played the guy with a bad back about 75% of the plays iirc I think there were only 3 or 4 Dline that played more than Poe and they were all DE and ROLB type guys.

If Poe wasn't playing well then why did Sutton leave him out there constantly?

There at the end last year we were playing guys like Reyes and Jenkins quite a bit. So, he was rotating, but will he keep it up when the starters are back?

We need to preserve Jones. He can be good for a long time if they don't play him a 1000 snaps a season.

TEX 03-13-2017 01:51 PM

BUT, can he throw and catch???

Hammock Parties 03-13-2017 01:51 PM

84th overall DL, 53rd against the run, 110th pass rush

Only played 181 run snaps.

JAG, but cheap hopefully.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12781216)
I am expecting this to be an upgrade to Poe.

He is, but only because Poe was absolutely terrible last year.

staylor26 03-13-2017 01:51 PM

I love this signing. Run defense is already improved.

From PFF:


9. Bennie Logan, NT
Logan is a true nose tackle, effectively limiting him to being a two-down player, which in today’s NFL has never been less valuable in terms of contract dollars. He has the ability though to make a major impact on those two downs if a team is willing to embrace the type of player he is. This past season he was a poor fit for Philadelphia’s new, aggressive, one-gap defensive front, but the year before he notched 45 defensive stops, fourth in the league among all interior defenders despite playing just 597 snaps in total. Only Damon Harrison had a better run-stop percentage than Logan’s 14.8 percent, a figure that would also have been second to Harrison this season. Embrace the two-gapping, run-stuffing ability and you could transform your run defense for pennies on the dollar.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro...rprise-upside/

Titty Meat 03-13-2017 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana (Post 12781238)
84th overall DL, 53rd against the run, 110th pass rush

Only played 181 run snaps.

JAG, but cheap hopefully.

Remember when this board blew it's load over signing Vance Walker?

kccrow 03-13-2017 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12781179)
There's your NT.

Yup. He played really well in 14/15 too. Last year he kind of fell off in that 4-3.

Sandy Vagina 03-13-2017 01:53 PM

nice read, staylor. Yes, a fan of this signing. Very good rotational depth, and could be a decent inside starter, if something goes wrong with Howard.

mcaj22 03-13-2017 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12781234)
There at the end last year we were playing guys like Reyes and Jenkins quite a bit. So, he was rotating, but will he keep it up when the starters are back?

That's because everyone Sutton rode into the ground dropped like flies due to injuries and we got crushed in the run game because we were playing turds on the line off the street.

Sutton is going to get mileage out of Chris Jones, 1000 snaps easy this year lol.

DJ's left nut 03-13-2017 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay (Post 12781224)
Seems like Poe only had 1 good game that was the SNF @Denver then he hurt his back that game and didn't do shit the rest of the year. The excuse for him was he was always getting double teamed and none of us wanted to admit the truth,

It was the occasional flash that did it to us.

The play he made in the Houston playoff game where he just instantaneously changed direction, blew through the middle and caused a pick. There was the clip in the Bronco's game (IIRC) where he and Bailey literally held the entire 5-man line of the Broncos to a standstill when Sutton tried some crazy 9-velcro kind of package.

On rare occasions you'd see a flash of the animal he was in 2013 but ultimately, you saw a pretty ineffective player more often than that.

It sucks, but as has been alluded to, Sutton (and Pioli) deserve a little blame here as well. That guy got ridden so hard and even when Dorsey came in and found some depth here and there, Sutton continued to flog Poe. We were screaming for help for Poe for several years and in the end, the cavalry appeared to just arrive too late.

But hey, take Poe away from Sutton and perhaps he'll consider responsible line rotations going forward. That would be a welcome respite.

big nasty kcnut 03-13-2017 01:56 PM

To the canoe!

DJ's left nut 03-13-2017 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay (Post 12781241)
Remember when this board blew it's load over signing Vance Walker?

I sure ****ed that right up.

I thought Walker would be a damn nice rotational player for us and we just never found a use for him at all.

I seem to remember him finding success after he left here, though. Walker's one of those guys that just never broke through; metrics darling but never seemed to make a name for himself beyond that.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-13-2017 01:56 PM

D lineman fall off a cliff all the time

Hammock Parties 03-13-2017 01:57 PM

Maybe that's the lesson, though.

Just ride interior DL like RBs and then discard them.

MTG#10 03-13-2017 01:57 PM

Not the defensive piece I wanted from the Eagles, but he will do.

staylor26 03-13-2017 01:58 PM

Here come the idiots like Clay and Billay to tell us this isn't a good signing when it clearly is to anybody with a ****ing clue about the rest of the NFL.

:facepalm:

Titty Meat 03-13-2017 02:00 PM

STaylor has gems like Houston would be ready week 1 last year and Justin March Lillard is a good player. Go back to hiding bundle of sticks.

kccrow 03-13-2017 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12781254)
Here come the idiots like Clay and Billay to tell us this isn't a good signing when it clearly is to anybody with a ****ing clue about the rest of the NFL.

:facepalm:

This is an outstanding signing for sure. He was a great NT when the Eagles were running a 3-4. Anyone with half a brain knows that this was a great value pickup. Don't sweat the idgits.

I was thinking about this kid the other day and expecting him to demand a bit more than the Chiefs could conjure up. Glad they could snag him.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-13-2017 02:00 PM

I didn't see Clay say it was a bad signing

mcaj22 03-13-2017 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana (Post 12781252)
Maybe that's the lesson, though.

Just ride interior DL like RBs and then discard them.


Has to be, the market has really bottomed out on lineman, 3-4 interior and run stuffers in this new era. They are almost like the fullback on offense at this point.

There was a time when big fat Tony Siragusa or a Pat Williams had tons of value. Today not so much.

We got Poes best years and replaced him with basically a comparable nobody for pennies on the dollar. You could probably argue that Logan and a Chris Jones offseason/improvement into a starters role is an UPGRADE for the Chiefs rather than a net loss.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-13-2017 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay (Post 12781257)
STaylor has gems like Houston would be ready week 1 last year and Justin March Lillard is a good player. Go back to hiding pillowbitergot.

March is awful. Weird how many propped him up.

Titty Meat 03-13-2017 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12781250)
I sure ****ed that right up.

I thought Walker would be a damn nice rotational player for us and we just never found a use for him at all.

I seem to remember him finding success after he left here, though. Walker's one of those guys that just never broke through; metrics darling but never seemed to make a name for himself beyond that.

Oh well we win some we lose some. Atleast they aren't giving Poe a huge contract like Carl would have done.

Titty Meat 03-13-2017 02:02 PM

Nobody is saying this is a bad signing it's a 1 year deal for a guy who's a rotatonal player.

Reerun_KC 03-13-2017 02:02 PM

Eagles becoming the new 49ers for the Chiefs...

staylor26 03-13-2017 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay (Post 12781257)
STaylor has gems like Houston would be ready week 1 last year and Justin March Lillard is a good player. Go back to hiding pillowbitergot.

We're all wrong sometimes, but I'm nowhere near wrong as often as you are dipshit.

You just called this guy camp fodder. You're a ****ing moron.

DJ's left nut 03-13-2017 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 12781261)
March is awful. Weird how many propped him up.

Pretty hard to avoid that conclusion at this point.

"Poor man's Mauga" is really the best compliment I can give him at this point and that's definitely not a good thing. Hell, he's not even a healthier version of Mauga.

He doesn't cost much...so he's got that going for him. Beyond that, I can't see anything to get excited about with him. Can't stay on the field, isn't worth a shit when he's on it. Not a great combination.

Hammock Parties 03-13-2017 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12781254)
Here come the idiots like Clay and Billay to tell us this isn't a good signing when it clearly is to anybody with a ****ing clue about the rest of the NFL.

:facepalm:

It's a decent signing. Nothing groundbreaking. Doubt he's a starter.

Reerun_KC 03-13-2017 02:04 PM

I wonder if they have any backup scrub QB's we could possible bring in for a look to see if they have any gas in the tank that we might be sold on?

staylor26 03-13-2017 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana (Post 12781270)
It's a decent signing. Nothing groundbreaking. Doubt he's a starter.

He's been a starter his entire career. And if he plays like he did in 2015, he will be a damn good starting NT.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-13-2017 02:06 PM

Seems to be a better fit in the 3 4...good for us

Titty Meat 03-13-2017 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12781268)
We're all wrong sometimes, but I'm nowhere near wrong as often as you are dipshit.

You just called this guy camp fodder. You're a ****ing moron.

Trying trying too hard to be Dane. Thankfully this go around will be short lived for you with the new moderation. You aren't just wrong you are a petulant child when someone disagrees with you. You were obnoxious whenever someone called out March and he ended up being so bad you literally went into hiding from this board.

RunKC 03-13-2017 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay (Post 12781257)
STaylor has gems like Houston would be ready week 1 last year and Justin March Lillard is a good player. Go back to hiding pillowbitergot.

I remember CP claiming Dee Ford, Travis Kelce and Eric Fisher as failures early in their careers too.

kccrow 03-13-2017 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay (Post 12781263)
Nobody is saying this is a bad signing it's a 1 year deal for a guy who's a rotatonal player.

He was more productive than Poe as the Eagles' starting NT the 2 years prior to 2016 in their 3-4. He was still the starter, but the Eagles rotated Beau Allen in much more frequently last year when they switched back to a 4-3. I dunno whatever you are going on about.

mcaj22 03-13-2017 02:09 PM

I'm not sure he will start but 1000 d-line snaps just walked out the door with Poe and the way Sutton rode him, so there will be plenty of snaps to go around for a 4..hell hopefully 5 man rotation.

ptlyon 03-13-2017 02:09 PM

Shots fired

Hammock Parties 03-13-2017 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12781272)
He's been a starter his entire career. And if he plays like he did in 2015, he will be a damn good starting NT.

The 84th best interior DL in football.

Certainly sounds like he will take Jaye Howard's job any day now.

I would be shocked if the Chiefs 2017 opening day lineup is not Bailey-Howard-Jones.

Titty Meat 03-13-2017 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12781277)
I remember CP claiming Dee Ford, Travis Kelce and Eric Fisher as failures early in their careers too.

Eric Fisher is OK and there's a lot of questions about Ford. I recall people hating the Kelce pick at the time of the draft but don't recall anyone claiming he was a bust?

staylor26 03-13-2017 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12781277)
I remember CP claiming Dee Ford, Travis Kelce and Eric Fisher as failures early in their careers too.

Funny how people like billay only remember the times I was wrong though.

So, I went into hiding about March, but yet I was right about Chris Jones (big time), Tyreek Hill, Dee Ford, and others. That makes a lot of sense Billay.

staylor26 03-13-2017 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana (Post 12781283)
The 84th best interior DL in football.

Certainly sounds like he will take Jaye Howard's job any day now.

I would be shocked if the Chiefs 2017 opening day lineup is not Bailey-Howard-Jones.

Only Harrison was a better run stuffer in 2015 according to your bible PFF. The change to a 4-3 in 2016 really ****ed him in a contract year.

Hammock Parties 03-13-2017 02:17 PM

Bennie Logan was such a great NT the Eagles were 32nd in run defense.

Slow your roll, homer.

Titty Meat 03-13-2017 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12781285)
Funny how people like billay only remember the times I was wrong though.

So, I went into hiding about March, but yet I was right about Chris Jones (big time), Tyreek Hill, Dee Ford, and others. That makes a lot of sense Billay.

You did go into hiding.

mcaj22 03-13-2017 02:20 PM

The scheme change in Philly hurt like half their front 7. Barwin, Kendricks, Logan, Curry, etc.

Guys that benefited and were beasts were Cox (clearly can play any scheme), Hicks and Bradham.

Doesn't mean those dudes who couldn't play in the 4-3 are bad players, they are just scheme dependent, they still have value and thankfully there are 32 teams in the NFL and no scheme is truly the same. Just have to find a new fit. Logan probably signed here because our scheme and fits his skills, and opportunity to rebuild his value in it.

staylor26 03-13-2017 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay (Post 12781296)
You did go into hiding.

From ****ing who? And for what? Because I was wrong about Justin ****ing March?

LMAO

Hammock Parties 03-13-2017 02:28 PM

You peaced out after Alex showed his true colors against the Steelers, and you realized this team was a cuck-in-waiting.

Bold strategy, cotton, let's see if it pays off.

staylor26 03-13-2017 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana (Post 12781311)
You peaced out after Alex showed his true colors against the Steelers, and you realized this team was a cuck-in-waiting.

Bold strategy, cotton, let's see if it pays off.

If that were the case, why would I be back knowing Alex is still our ****ing QB?

You guys have some really flawed logic here.

Titty Meat 03-13-2017 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana (Post 12781311)
You peaced out after Alex showed his true colors against the Steelers, and you realized this team was a cuck-in-waiting.

Bold strategy, cotton, let's see if it pays off.

ROFL your mauling of Dane and his son in '16 was impressive.


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