The 2017 Rookie Class is flashing early in Training Camp
 

Eligwe, Chesson, Hunt, Mahomes, and Kpassignon are all making plays and being talked up by the coaches.

If these guys can all contribute, we're going to be in really great shape going forward.

Eligwe, Hunt and Kpassignon have a chance to be day 1 contributors and I hope they pan out to be starters in '18. Chesson is way undervalued because he was hurt last year and we all know Mahomes could be a star.

Hunt looks good at pass catching. His pass blocking needs serious work. When you are getting knocked down by March there is a problem

Thanks, Dorsey.

Poor pass blocking is a deal breaker for a RB. Hunt has lots of time to improve though.

That was my first reaction then I wondered, how do we know exactly ho much Dorsey was responsible for all the picks?

I seriously have no idea.

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We don't, I was just trolling. :)


Although Dorsey was in charge of player personnel so he gets the credit or blame for all of it.

Other than our new GM pretty much everyone involved with scouting/drafting is gone.

Completely...

I guess you must of missed it when March ran his ass over

It seems like our scouting/drafting has been pretty good lately. I'm not sure why we would want to get rid of all of them.

This is not true at all. Ballard and Dorsey are gone. That's it.

Dorsey left us a nice going-away present.

Must HAVE missed. Speak ****ing english

You should pay closer attention...

Lol ok. Please tell me who else since I'm so misinformed.

The other people we lost were not involved with scouting for the draft. All of our scouts are still here.

And now McQuay is having a big day at camp, with an INT and a few PBU's

The coaches talking up their new draft picks? Say it isn't so.

The only rookies I remember them talking up the past couple years are Peters, Morse, Hill, and Jones.

So, I'd take their word for it at this point.

Mmm... it's more that everyone watching them in camp is noticing that they are playing well and then tweeting about it.

The only coach hype I've seen was Nagy on Mahomes and Toub on Eligwe

It's not typical.

This is the NFL, not the feelgoodleague

We're going to miss Dorsey

Happens in football...

Probably

Yeah, Twitter is just ablaze with reports coming out of every camp about how much each team's rookies suck.....

Uh, I think we're talking about Coaches praise, not meaningless fan tweets.

Raider fans expect their two rookies to form some type of elite secondary

Coaches praise means a lot more than fan tweets

This! He left us in Great shape though- this team is absolutely ****ing loaded with talent. IMO you have to go back to the Montana years for a Chief's team this balanced. Our rookies are pushing the vets to play. The guys we have brought in are making plays and the D is just ****ing nasty.

The Chiefs are going to be the team Nobody wants to play this year. They will have to pretty much play a perfect game to beat us and if they don't we will be dominating them. This D could be holding teams to under 14 points a game this year if they stay healthy.

Dorsey was great... but he wanted to work in that frozen cheese hell in Wisconsin.

Who wouldn't? They actually win these things called "Championships".

If Dorsey is so great why couldn't he bring a championship to KC?

This! He left us in Great shape though- this team is absolutely ****ing loaded with talent. IMO you have to go back to the Montana years for a Chief's team this balanced. Our rookies are pushing the vets to play. The guys we have brought in are making plays and the D is just ****ing nasty.

The Chiefs are going to be the team Nobody wants to play this year. They will have to pretty much play a perfect game to beat us and if they don't we will be dominating them. This D could be holding teams to under 14 points a game this year if they stay healthy.

If this team should win a SB in the next 3 to 4 years, it will almost certainly be with the core of players that he drafted, and will be part his legacy.

Alright what about the Pats. How do you predict we fare that game

Exactly. It is not just the stars like Peters, Jones and Kelce- it is all the depth players he has brought in. Some of our second stringers would be starters on a lot of teams. This is the deepest team I have seen going into camp. The cut down is going to hurt. We know many of those players won't be out of work long.

Not to burst anyone's bubble but how many years has this rookie euphoria gone on? 10 years, 20 years, 30 years.

What until shit gets real with pads and opponents.

Hope I'm proven wrong.

Dude, this team has averaged 11 wins the past four regular seasons, with many rookies making an instant impact.

The best signing Dorsey made IMO out of all the free agents he signed was Ron Parker. Dude got cut 6 times and he was thought of as just a camp body and now he's a top 5 FS

It's as if some people have been sleeping through the past 4 seasons.

It wasn't a "signing".

He was claimed off of waivers on cut down day, at a time when the Chiefs had the #1 waiver priority.

I am already on record in the Pats thread as stating I had little hope an Alex led team could go in there and win...

but... :hmmm:

I don't think it will be a cakewalk for them with our D. playing like they have so far in camp. If everyone stays healthy- we could have the best front 7 in the NFL. Look at what the D-line for the Giants did to the Pats in the Superbowl.

When I made that prediction the status of DJ and Houston were still unknown- now they are both back and that makes us pretty hard to beat on that side of the ball. If Alex does not shit his pants- we could upset them.

All I have been seeing are stories about how the Pats are going 19-0 this year- they are not concerned with the Chiefs at all. We are just a small speed bump on their way to another SB. I think their extreme arrogance and overconfidence could be their downfall. At least I hope so.

People at Arrowhead thought Dorsey got too much credit for others accomplishments. Guess we'll find out in 3 years.

I have never been a big Parker fan in the past and have posted that many times. He drops easy interceptions and has missed a lot of tackles in the running game allowing big plays. But I think that is all in the past. I have to concede that he seems to have improved every year and there is something really special about the combination of him and Berry that makes them both better players. As one of the more critical posters concerning Parker in the past, I am really hoping he has a huge year. Berry is just so great that I think maybe Parker gets overshadowed by him. We really need Parker to put it all together this year and I think he will.

I don't get why people are freaking out about Dorsey's departure, because we have a guy who was involved with said decisions.

Dorsey drafts players that actually make an impact.

Kielce, Peters, Jones, Hill, Morse. Day 1 contributors.

I never could have imagined an undersized receiver from West Alabama would become a star in his rookie season, and one of the most explosive weapons in the NFL

Dorsey is gone (there's good and bad here) but let's not pretend like we have been a 8-8 also-ran with underperforming rookies. We are an 11-5 type team with very good rookies, but are 1-3 in the postseason.

Mahomes was brought in as the last and most important piece to the puzzle.

Being involved doesn't mean he made those decisions, doesn't mean he controlled those decisions. Huge differences.

I thought Veach scouted and liked guys like Desean Jackson and Lesean McCoy? Can't find the link for that story.

All honesty Hill had the talent to be a first round draft pick but no one wanted to pick him because of his troubles. I hope Veach continues that way in taking talented players with a troubled past

Yea he did and Fletcher Cox

Still, a lot of people blew it off as "camp hype". Most people in Kc never heard of the guy. Nobody thought he was much of a stud.

Kind of like Tanoh: highly regarded by scouts, unheard of by fans

Chicken Little complex, so far he's done nothing to doubt him

It's not any kind of complex. It's like when a backup gets promoted in the NFL, they are a question mark until they prove they can start. Until Veach proves he can do it, there will be doubt.

It is , that is the definition of your fear

They have "potential" and that means they haven't done jack shit.

True in some respects but for every Marcus Peters there are 4 Mike Catapanos, 7 Jonathan Baldwins, and 10 KeiVarae Russells we are all excited about that are the camp's shining stars but soon flame out . :shrug:

This regime didn't even draft Baldwin

Catapano was a 7th round pick from the historically weak 2013 draftROFL


I always take note of the camp hype, but I always wait till the games are played. Only way to prove a rookie, same as it ever was for any rookie on any team.

The letdown is what happens when people don't temper expectations throughout the hype

Home team fans feel rookies are shining in week 1 of camp.
Film at 11. :p

No, it's the definition of your homerism. Every fan has doubts when their team hires a new GM. The only exceptions are the homers who judge every move with rose colored glasses.

KeiVarie Russell was awful in preseason and I predicted he'd be released two weeks before he was cut.

The only thing I recall about Baldwin was the camp fight that left him with broken bones.

Catapano was a 7th. Big whoop.

My spidey senses are tingling on the Kpassagnon pick. Dude has the shit you can't teach. A lot of potential for good things to happen.

Yeah, 1st time I've been called that.

Everyone has doubts, but KC won't absolutely go into an oblivion like you make it out to be.

I couldn't care less about camp reports from BJ Kissel, Pete Sweeney or Adam Teicher. None of those guys are believable.

Terez has an amazing eye for football, Mellinger's a skeptic/realist and Gregorian has been fair and balanced.

All that said, there's very little contact and little to no pass rush so it's fairly meaningless at this point for the young guys and rookies.

Next Friday, we'll get a real look at these players.

I've never said such a thing. I've only said the Chiefs will probably miss Dorsey. Quite a stretch on your part. Do you normally just make shit up in support of the random garbage you post?

Miss Dorsey? Your giving him complete credit .

Go on and make personal attacks

I guess we did.

In Veach We Trust.

I want to hear this about CEH.

At least we got MVP out of it. Every year though we have to hear about total turds "flashing"

10/10 take, would read again

When the guy pounds the table for someone, you had better listen.

Not so much.

Can't wait for more turds to get pimped again this off-season...

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So, we won a title with just 1 of those guys contributing. 2 turds, a wasted career, and a JAG...QB trumps all

Kpass is actually a nice player....

I thought Eligwe was gonna be a dog for us. RIP.