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Couch-Potato 08-20-2017 05:52 PM

Phillip Dorsett Available Via Trade?
 
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...edly-available

Lot's of guys high on this guy when he was drafted, what happened? Any chance he can turn it around? Would we be interested?

DGB also still out there without a team, what's up with him? Anyone else out there looking like they might be available via trade or cut that would be a nice addition?

BryanBusby 08-20-2017 05:53 PM

DGB is dumber than the lovechild from a knowmo/any reerun raider fan gay scissor.

TLO 08-20-2017 05:54 PM

Who? What? Huh?

Coochie liquor 08-20-2017 05:56 PM

If it was next year and we had a qb who utilizes his WR's more I'd be interested if the price was right. But not this season as he doesn't get "Alex Smith open", so would be a waste of cap space.

-King- 08-20-2017 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 13027432)
If it was next year and we had a qb who utilizes his WR's more I'd be interested if the price was right. But not this season as he doesn't get "Alex Smith open", so would be a waste of cap space.

Because you totally can't keep players past one year.
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penbrook 08-20-2017 06:26 PM

Boldin retired today

Pasta Little Brioni 08-20-2017 06:29 PM

And??

Hoopsdoc 08-20-2017 07:58 PM

He's sorely underutilized in Indy. Stuck behind Hilton and Donte Moncrief, and now with a GM who didn't draft him.

He may be good, I don't know because all they ever do is have him run go routes and don't throw it to him.

My guess is they get nothing and end up just releasing him.

BossChief 08-20-2017 07:59 PM

This team is going to be just fine with the guys we have at WR.

Hill has pro bowl potential.
Conley looks improved.
Robinson and Chesson are hungry.

Even Wilson and DAT look improved.

Not sure where Dorsett would fit in here.

DaneMcCloud 08-20-2017 08:19 PM

Dorsett is a straight line receiver that put up poor numbers with Luck.

He'd be virtually worthless in KC.

TLO 08-20-2017 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 13027640)
This team is going to be just fine with the guys we have at WR.

Hill has pro bowl potential.
Conley looks improved.
Robinson and Chesson are hungry.

Even Wilson and DAT look improved.

Not sure where Dorsett would fit in here.

Conley looks;

1. Slow
2. Like a sloppy route runner
3. Like a receiver that struggles getting separation.

He better catch everything thrown his way or he's practically worthless.

Reerun_KC 08-20-2017 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 13027707)
Conley looks;

1. Slow
2. Like a sloppy route runner
3. Like a receiver that struggles getting separation.

He better catch everything thrown his way or he's practically worthless.

You just described Bowe...

kccrow 08-20-2017 08:54 PM

I'd send them a mid-rounder... 4th/5th

The guy should return kicks and be an effective slot but Indy uses him like idiots.

I wanted the Chiefs to draft this kid badly. He's got speed like Tyreek and gets separation, he just has a smaller frame.

-King- 08-20-2017 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 13027707)
Conley looks;

1. Slow
2. Like a sloppy route runner
3. Like a receiver that struggles getting separation.

He better catch everything thrown his way or he's practically worthless.

He had 500 yards as a 4th option last year. He'll be fine.
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Direckshun 08-20-2017 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 13027722)
I'd send them a mid-rounder... 4th/5th

The guy should return kicks and be an effective slot but Indy uses him like idiots.

I wanted the Chiefs to draft this kid badly. He's got speed like Tyreek and gets separation, he just has a smaller frame.

Co-sign.

Buckweath 08-20-2017 09:11 PM

He has practically done nothing with an elite QB. I probably wouldn't trade for that.

BryanBusby 08-20-2017 09:19 PM

I know this is a sizzler of a hot take, but Luck is overrated.

BlackOp 08-20-2017 11:48 PM

No thanks...they can keep him.

ChiefGator 08-21-2017 07:23 AM

Would rather use a late rounder to trade for a CB from a team.. I think our WRs will be okay.

Couch-Potato 08-21-2017 08:37 AM

I'm down for a nice development year for our young WR, hope to see something out of at least one of them this year outside of Hill. However, I'm also not against adding additional young talent at the position. Mahomes gets the reigns next year, and I don't expect him to take us to the Super Bowl year 1. If we have a couple years to develop another quality WR, then we have plenty of time and should consider stacking on talent at the position if available.

Couch-Potato 08-21-2017 02:25 PM

I also saw that Monti Teo was picked up by the Saints and is expected to be a starter as a 2 down run stopping ILB. He had the highest graded performance of any player in the saints last preseason game, not worth much but a positive.

Were we not interested in him either?

ToxSocks 08-21-2017 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 13028760)
I also saw that Monti Teo was picked up by the Saints and is expected to be a starter as a 2 down run stopping ILB. He had the highest graded performance of any player in the saints last preseason game, not worth much but a positive.

Were we not interested in him either?

Good. Do Not Want.

mszymko 08-21-2017 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 13028763)
Good. Do Not Want.

We couldn't use a run stopping 2 down ILB?

DaneMcCloud 08-21-2017 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 13028760)
I also saw that Monti Teo was picked up by the Saints and is expected to be a starter as a 2 down run stopping ILB. He had the highest graded performance of any player in the saints last preseason game, not worth much but a positive.

Were we not interested in him either?

LMAO

O.city 08-21-2017 04:04 PM

I mean, for a late round pick? Sure. A conditional 7th or something.

ToxSocks 08-21-2017 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mszymko (Post 13028803)
We couldn't use a run stopping 2 down ILB?

Teo is a JAG. An often injured JAG. To call him a "Run Stopper" is being overly flattering.

Teo is slow (no idea what his combine #'s were, but on the field he's slow as shit) and he isn't aggressive. He's just not a good player.

The Franchise 08-21-2017 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 13028760)
I also saw that Monti Teo was picked up by the Saints and is expected to be a starter as a 2 down run stopping ILB. He had the highest graded performance of any player in the saints last preseason game, not worth much but a positive.

Were we not interested in him either?

No but we should be offering them a late round pick for Stephon Anthony.

DaneMcCloud 08-21-2017 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13029011)
I mean, for a late round pick? Sure. A conditional 7th or something.

Then who are you cutting?

And if you cut a guy like Wilson (who I don't like but knows the playbook), how long before Dorsett can contribute?

The guy is slight of build and hasn't played well since being a 1st round draft choice. He'd probably be 5th or 6th on the depth chart and comes with a $2.2 million dollar cap hit this year, nearly twice that of Wilson.

I don't see the value.

Couch-Potato 08-21-2017 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13029037)
Then who are you cutting?

And if you cut a guy like Wilson (who I don't like but knows the playbook), how long before Dorsett can contribute?

The guy is slight of build and hasn't played well since being a 1st round draft choice. He'd probably be 5th or 6th on the depth chart and comes with a $2.2 million dollar cap hit this year, nearly twice that of Wilson.

I don't see the value.


Could we find ourselves in a situation where we have an expendable RB to trade? hopefully for someone more worthwhile than those mentioned above. If Hunt takes off, will we also need Ware, West, and Spiller? My understanding is that Spiller has impressed at camp etc.

Couch-Potato 08-21-2017 05:25 PM

here's a suggestion for Reggie Ragland

https://arrowheadaddict.com/2017/08/...buffalo-bills/

O.city 08-21-2017 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13029037)
Then who are you cutting?

And if you cut a guy like Wilson (who I don't like but knows the playbook), how long before Dorsett can contribute?

The guy is slight of build and hasn't played well since being a 1st round draft choice. He'd probably be 5th or 6th on the depth chart and comes with a $2.2 million dollar cap hit this year, nearly twice that of Wilson.

I don't see the value.

Yeah, Wilson.

Wilson isn't going to be integral to the offense and they would be fine u til Dorsett got up to speed.

Ideally he'd be a great slot guy and potential 2 or 3 wr and would help the receiving core

I don't look for it to happen though

kccrow 08-21-2017 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13029219)
Yeah, Wilson.

Wilson isn't going to be integral to the offense and they would be fine u til Dorsett got up to speed.

Ideally he'd be a great slot guy and potential 2 or 3 wr and would help the receiving core

I don't look for it to happen though

Yep.

The Patriots will probably throw them a 6th rounder and turn the kid into a star.....

NJChiefsFan 08-21-2017 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 13027640)
This team is going to be just fine with the guys we have at WR.

Hill has pro bowl potential.
Conley looks improved.
Robinson and Chesson are hungry.

Even Wilson and DAT look improved.

Not sure where Dorsett would fit in here.

A lot of players are hungry.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Smoke (Post 13027707)
Conley looks;

1. Slow
2. Like a sloppy route runner
3. Like a receiver that struggles getting separation.

He better catch everything thrown his way or he's practically worthless.

Aren't the coaches big fans of his route running?

OldSchool 08-21-2017 10:17 PM

I'd take Dorsett if they'll give him up for a 4th/5th round pick. Would help take some pressure off of Hill as the only real deep threat.

DaneMcCloud 08-21-2017 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 13029734)
I'd take Dorsett if they'll give him up for a 4th/5th round pick. Would help take some pressure off of Hill as the only real deep threat.

So, in a year where the Chiefs don't have a 1st or a 7th, you're offering a 4th for oft-injury plagued player with worse numbers than Albert Wilson the past two years?

Couch-Potato 08-22-2017 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 13029705)
Yep.

The Patriots will probably throw them a 6th rounder and turn the kid into a star.....


This ^

Couch-Potato 08-22-2017 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13029763)
So, in a year where the Chiefs don't have a 1st or a 7th, you're offering a 4th for oft-injury plagued player with worse numbers than Albert Wilson the past two years?


Could we move one of our RBs for Dorsett + a pick? Colts have Gore and Turbin, Gore is the workload back (1,000 yards) & Turbin does goal line work (7 TDs). Maybe we can offer them something in West, Ware, or Spiller they don't already have.

Ware = Dorsett + 6th Rd pick ???

Urc Burry 08-22-2017 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 13031569)
Could we move one of our RBs for Dorsett + a pick? Colts have Gore and Turbin, Gore is the workload back (1,000 yards) & Turbin does goal line work (7 TDs). Maybe we can offer them something in West, Ware, or Spiller they don't already have.

Ware = Dorsett + 6th Rd pick ???

Not sure after the last preseason game. Marlon Mack looked REAL good for them. I know the chiefs were linked to him coming out... makes sense that Ballard took him.

Check him out

https://youtu.be/752UJymANBs

BryanBusby 08-22-2017 10:26 PM

I think Ballard is looking for a Defensive player in return.

kccrow 08-22-2017 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13029763)
So, in a year where the Chiefs don't have a 1st or a 7th, you're offering a 4th for oft-injury plagued player with worse numbers than Albert Wilson the past two years?

1. Chiefs get a 7th this year back from trading that shitty CB to Arizona.

2. Dorsett had more yards last season than Wilson ever has and only 2 less catches.

3. Dorsett played in 15 games last year and started 7. He missed a game with a groin injury. He missed 5 games his rookie season due to a broken leg. I'm not sure he's "oft injured," although he did tweak a hammy this offseason. I just don't qualify a broken leg as something that'd occur too often, and groin/hamstring injuries happen to receivers. He hasn't really missed significant time for those things though so hard to call it a problem yet.

4. Dorsett's problem in the NFL so far has been concentration related. I think a change of coaching would do the kid some good. He has far more potential than Albert Wilson.

5. I think you can make that a conditional pick. Maybe its a 6th conditional to a 5th based on performance.

DaneMcCloud 08-22-2017 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 13031645)
1. Chiefs get a 7th this year back from trading that shitty CB to Arizona.

2. Dorsett had more yards last season than Wilson ever has and only 2 less catches.

3. Dorsett played in 15 games last year and started 7. He missed a game with a groin injury. He missed 5 games his rookie season due to a broken leg. I'm not sure he's "oft injured," although he did tweak a hammy this offseason. I just don't qualify a broken leg as something that'd occur too often, and groin/hamstring injuries happen to receivers. He hasn't really missed significant time for those things though so hard to call it a problem yet.

4. Dorsett's problem in the NFL so far has been concentration related. I think a change of coaching would do the kid some good. He has far more potential than Albert Wilson.

5. I think you can make that a conditional pick. Maybe its a 6th conditional to a 5th based on performance.

Blech.

Plus, the Chiefs have to give back a 7th to SF for Acker.

Couch-Potato 08-23-2017 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urc Burry (Post 13031628)
Not sure after the last preseason game. Marlon Mack looked REAL good for them. I know the chiefs were linked to him coming out... makes sense that Ballard took him.

Check him out

https://youtu.be/752UJymANBs


Yeah, scratch that. Kid looks really good!

Couch-Potato 08-23-2017 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 13031645)
1.

5. I think you can make that a conditional pick. Maybe its a 6th conditional to a 5th based on performance.

im in. Can we get Ragland also?

kccrow 08-23-2017 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 13032021)
im in. Can we get Ragland also?

I can see Dorsett being traded but I don't get why the Bills would trade Ragland right now. I'd give the kid a chance to rehab fully and see if he fits in their new 4-3 before just dumping him.

Scott McDermott doesn't sound like a guy ready to just dump him either:

Quote:

“Gerald has done some good things. He’s shown an ability to handle more than one position on the defense and in our base packages and also our sub-packages. He communicates well (and) he’s a veteran player. Reggie’s a young player who’s coming off of an injury and is only going to continue to get better. He’s working extremely hard. I thought he did some good things in the game tonight. Played downhill, played physical, so that will be a fun position to watch moving forward.”

JakeF 08-23-2017 02:05 PM

Someone was talking about the possibility of Dion Lewis being traded by New England.

kccrow 08-23-2017 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 13032379)
Someone was talking about the possibility of Dion Lewis being traded by New England.

I think there is a very solid possibility he ends up cut with at least 3 million going to each of Burkhead, White, and Gillislee this year. White is their star receiving back, Gillislee looked like a star in the making in Buffalo and is supposed to split carries with Burkhead as the main runner, and Burkhead looked good toting the rock for them so far in pre-season. The only way I can see Lewis not being cut is if they feature Burk and trade him off that one-year deal, but I'd find that to be pretty damn doubtful.

Hoopsdoc 08-23-2017 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 13032014)
Yeah, scratch that. Kid looks really good!

Mack looked amazing against Dallas. Reminded me of a young Frank Gore. He hits the hole FAST.

mcaj22 08-23-2017 07:10 PM

Allen Hurns on the trade block

Hurns and 1st for Alex Smith who says no?

BryanBusby 08-23-2017 07:11 PM

Coughlin would need to be fitted for a straight jacket if he did that trade.

Couch-Potato 08-23-2017 08:31 PM

Maybe the mods could help me change the title of the thread to "Potential Trade Targets?"

Couch-Potato 08-23-2017 08:58 PM

"Todd Clausen ✔ @ToddJClausen

If Buffalo wants to trade Ragland, let him start and play the entire preseason game No. 3 or maybe even No. 4.

http://buffalonews.com/2017/08/22/bi...sed-right-now/

12:31 PM - Aug 22, 2017 · Brighton, NY

LeSean McCoy is not the only member of the Buffalo Bills to show up in the latest NFL trade rumors. There have also been reports that the team could be shopping quarterback Tyrod Taylor and linebacker Reggie Ragland, who missed his rookie season with injury and now appears an odd fit for McDermott’s new defense."

Couch-Potato 08-23-2017 09:09 PM

Dorsett for a 6th rd pick?

Ragland for a conditional 4th rd pick or maybe Ware if they move on from McCoy?

A Smith to Jaguars for either a 1st rd pick or A Robinson?

Couch-Potato 08-23-2017 09:14 PM

"Josh Gordon, WR, Cleveland Browns

Yeah, this guy. Still suspended. No guarantee he'll ever be reinstated. But if he is reinstated, the Browns will surely try to get something in exchange for him before releasing him outright. He turns 26 on Thursday, and four years ago he caught 87 passes for 1,646 yards and nine touchdowns in just 14 games. But it'll be tough for the Browns to get much for a guy whose next suspension is likely to be permanent."

-espn NFL stars on trading block

= Perfect for us IMO

mcaj22 08-23-2017 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 13033182)
Dorsett for a 6th rd pick?

Ragland for a conditional 4th rd pick or maybe Ware if they move on from McCoy?

A Smith to Jaguars for either a 1st rd pick or A Robinson?

Robinson is a UFA no way the Chiefs can afford that so no to a 1 year rental

DaneMcCloud 08-23-2017 09:19 PM

So much dumbassery

Couch-Potato 08-24-2017 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13033204)
So much dumbassery

Wild speculation makes for the best summer threads

Couch-Potato 08-24-2017 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 13033199)
Robinson is a UFA no way the Chiefs can afford that so no to a 1 year rental

Very good point


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