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Tribal Warfare 08-22-2017 09:21 AM

Alex Smith praises Patrick Mahomes' ability to absorb coaching
 
Alex Smith praises Patrick Mahomes' ability to absorb coaching

Alex Smith knows what it’s like to be a first-round pick with high expectations.

Selected first overall by the San Francisco 49ers in the 2005 draft, the current Chiefs starting quarterback looked back on his early years in the NFL and remembered the copious amounts of coaching tips.

“It’s a whirlwind, there’s a lot of expectations on you and you’re juggling a lot — you’re thinking about a million different things and you’re getting coached on a ton of stuff,” Smith said during Monday’s press conference.

Smith went on to admit that it wasn’t easy to take in all the info and translate it to the field.

“I think it’s hard as a young guy, sometimes it’s easy to become robotic out there,” Smith said. “You’ve got so much coaching going on out there and it’s hard on game day, at least it was hard for me sometimes just to flip back into playing.

“I was trying so hard on making my feet right and my fundamentals right that I was getting coached on, especially for me coming away from under center snap and all my footwork and things like that was so different for me having played in the gun most of my college career. It was hard sometimes to translate it.”

Luckily, Smith believes that Patrick Mahomes, the Chiefs’ 2017 first-round selection, is doing a better job of absorbing coaching tips and converting it to on-field play than Smith did back in ’05.

“You have that coaching — go out and play on game day and cut it loose,” Smith said. “That took me a long time to get back into that mode whereas I think Pat is much better and way more fluid at that, being able to handle the coaching.”


Andy Reid on Patrick Mahomes starting this year: 'It's Alex's job'
Mahomes started his NFL career on a positive note, going 17-for-23 with 166 total yards and three touchdowns in two preseason games.

Smith attributes Mahomes’ beginning success to his ability to loosen up and play once he hits the field.

“Once the whistle blows out there, you want to just get back to playing quarterback and there are a lot of things that he does instinctively and has done that have gotten him here,” Smith said. “You don’t want to lose that.

“Even though you are getting coached on a gazillion different things you just want to get back to playing ball. I think he does a great job of that naturally, just cutting that loose and taking the coaching, but once it’s time to play, just go play.”

Rasputin 08-22-2017 09:29 AM

Alex Smith is a Mahomo he wants to suck his big fat hunk meat.

Tribal Warfare 08-22-2017 09:30 AM

Alex is a Mohomosexual convert

Halfcan 08-22-2017 10:01 AM

You guys probably saw this on Channel 5 Chiefs wrap up after the game, but I thought it was pretty significant.

Andy Reid stood in the pocket and watched Every single snap PM2 took in practice. All of his snaps and throws were filmed, then reviewed after practice. After each throw- Andy took notes and coached him on every one of them. Instant feedback from one of the best coaches in the NFL- how valuable is that in his development?

Andy is building a Terminator that will destroy the NFL.

RunKC 08-22-2017 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 13030068)
You guys probably saw this on Channel 5 Chiefs wrap up after the game, but I thought it was pretty significant.

Andy Reid stood in the pocket and watched Every single snap PM2 took in practice. All of his snaps and throws were filmed, then reviewed after practice. After each throw- Andy took notes and coached him on every one of them. Instant feedback from one of the best coaches in the NFL- how valuable is that in his development?

Andy is building a Terminator that will destroy the NFL.

From reports, Andy is hammering the pocket skills every play to Pat.
He knows Pat can play outside the structure of the offense. He's working on getting Pat to play structured ball from the pocket.

Calling plays, using correct technique, finding the mike LB, adapting to changes by the defense (zone, blitz, etc) and utilizing the playbook.This is the biggest reason Alex is the unquestioned starter right now, and it's all learned through experience.

Pat has grown so much since his first OTA practice in May 3 months ago. It would be ideal to give him another 3 months of practice before Andy even thinks about this kid being ready to play.

Halfcan 08-22-2017 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13030082)
From reports, Andy is hammering the pocket skills every play to Pat.
He knows Pat can play outside the structure of the offense. He's working on getting Pat to play structured ball from the pocket.

Calling plays, using correct technique, finding the mike LB, adapting to changes by the defense (zone, blitz, etc) and utilizing the playbook.This is the biggest reason Alex is the unquestioned starter right now, and it's all learned through experience.

Pat has grown so much since his first OTA practice in May 3 months ago. It would be ideal to give him another 3 months of practice before Andy even thinks about this kid being ready to play.

By the story I watched- you can tell Andy loves the kid and the respect goes both ways. Andy has worked with a lot of QB's, so having him right there for instant feedback is bound to sink in. All that extra attention showed in the two games so far, PM2 looked very comfortable and was attacking the defense.

Another year of studying, practicing and growing physically- he is going to amazing. :clap:

Hog's Gone Fishin 08-22-2017 10:35 AM

I've actually woke up every morning looking forward to go to work since drafting him.

bishop_74 08-22-2017 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 13030099)
I've actually woke up every morning looking forward to go to work since drafting him.

Considering your line of work that is saying a LOT! :D

WhiteWhale 08-22-2017 11:10 AM

Alex's coaches really screwed him up.

It's actually kind of amazing he managed to become a mediocre game manager instead of washing out entirely after that cluster **** in SF.

Mahomes has more raw talent and a much better situation. Mahomes is going to make Reid look like a ****ing genius.

penbrook 08-22-2017 11:17 AM

https://mobile.twitter.com/RapSheet/...23756726431745

Pretty much confirms it

Sandy Vagina 08-22-2017 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 13030159)
Alex's coaches really screwed him up.

It's actually kind of amazing he managed to become a mediocre game manager instead of washing out entirely after that cluster **** in SF.

Mahomes has more raw talent and a much better situation. Mahomes is going to make Reid look like a ****ing genius.

Truth.. though I'd still call Smith above average or even good.

He may as well be supportive and complimentary of Mahomes. Despite what so many love to fantasize over, Smith isn't worried about his job. He KNOWS the job will belong to Mahomes next year. He also knows he is getting paid this year, so if Mahomes gets the nod this year, more power to him. Really not a big deal at this point.

RunKC 08-22-2017 11:27 AM

Mahomes is even more impressive in the building than they thought he'd be when they scouted him.

Goddamn that feels good to hear

Halfcan 08-22-2017 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 13030181)
Truth.. though I'd still call Smith above average or even good.

He may as well be supportive and complimentary of Mahomes. Despite what so many love to fantasize over, Smith isn't worried about his job. He KNOWS the job will belong to Mahomes next year. He also knows he is getting paid this year, so if Mahomes gets the nod this year, more power to him. Really not a big deal at this point.

ROFL Of course you would.

New World Order 08-22-2017 01:43 PM

Even Alex wants Mahomes to start

:)

NJChiefsFan 08-22-2017 02:15 PM

I think Mahomes ability to feel pressure has been the thing I've liked the most. He is able to keep his eyes down field and also get to a spot where he is away from trouble. The only criticism I have from game 2 is that he seemed more jumpy in the pocket. Left a clean pocket a few times.

Overall though he has shown arm strength along with calmness and awareness in the pocket. Can't really ask for much more than that.

His great throws are impressive, but I kind of expected that. Some of those across the body throws may hurt us short term while he learns that NFL defenses make you pay for them now and then. I expect that to only get better.

PAChiefsGuy 08-22-2017 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 13030351)
ROFL Of course you would.

Even if you disagree with that Smitty certainly is not bad like most of the idiot posters on CP claim he is.

Anyway I am taking everything Alex says about Mahomes with a grain of salt. Alex is a class act he is not going to talk bad about Mahomes. He praised Kaepernick as well and now look, Kaepernick can't even get signed as a backup.

When I see Mahomes during regular season light defenses up consistently then I will get excited. Until then... I refuse to get too excited about the guy.

So far Mahomes looks great but we are talking about 3-qrts in preseason... It doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things.

JakeF 08-22-2017 02:53 PM

Great mentor, Alex should intern coaching under Andy Reid when his career is over.

rico 08-22-2017 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 13030457)
Even if you disagree with that Smitty certainly is not bad like most of the idiot posters on CP claim he is.

Anyway I am taking everything Alex says about Mahomes with a grain of salt. Alex is a class act he is not going to talk bad about Mahomes. He praised Kaepernick as well and now look, Kaepernick can't even get signed as a backup.

When I see Mahomes during regular season light defenses up consistently then I will get excited. Until then... I refuse to get too excited about the guy.

So far Mahomes looks great but we are talking about 3-qrts in preseason... It doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things.

Hmmm....

You, Sandy and cooper Barrett don't only share identical opinions regarding your Smitty, but you also have similar writing styles.

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Ming the Merciless 08-22-2017 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 13030029)
Alex Smith is a Mahomo he wants to suck his big fat hunk meat.

http://i.imgur.com/UDzaese.jpg

Rasputin 08-22-2017 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 13030360)
Even Alex wants Mahomes to start

:)

There probably some truth to this it would be his best chance to get a ring :D

cooper barrett 08-22-2017 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rico (Post 13030478)
Hmmm....

You, Sandy and cooper Barrett don't only share identical opinions regarding your Smitty, but you also have similar writing styles.

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I am still working on who your writing style resembles, I just hope you don't home school.

Allow me to me help you out;

You, Sandy and cooper Barrett don't only share identical opinions regarding your Smitty, but you also have similar writing styles.


Should be:

You, Sandy, and Cooper Barrett don't only share identical opinions regarding your Smitty, but you also have similar writing styles.

I could go further but I really see no reason to exert the energy.

I hope the other two parties chime in also....:loser::loser:

NJChiefsFan 08-22-2017 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooper barrett (Post 13031180)
I am still working on who your writing style resembles, I just hope you don't home school.

Allow me to me help you out;

You, Sandy and cooper Barrett don't only share identical opinions regarding your Smitty, but you also have similar writing styles.


Should be:

You, Sandy, and Cooper Barrett don't only share identical opinions regarding your Smitty, but you also have similar writing styles.

I could go further but I really see no reason to exert the energy.

I hope the other two parties chime in also....:loser::loser:

Technically it is grammatically correct to use or not use a comma after Sandy in that sentence. Nice try though. I'm sure you thought you knocked that one out of the park.

Also, you are killing him for not capitalizing Cooper yet you yourself didn't capitalize it in your actual user name.

Ming the Merciless 08-22-2017 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooper barrett (Post 13031180)

1)I am still working on who your writing style resembles, I just hope you don't home school.

2)Allow me to me help you out;


If you're going to correct someone, please don't make mistakes yourself.

1) This should be a period or semi-colon.

2) This should be a colon, not a semi-colon.


Thank you,

Chiefsplanet Hall Monitor

beach tribe 08-22-2017 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 13031196)
Technically it is grammatically correct to use or not use a comma after Sandy in that sentence. Nice try though. I'm sure you thought you knocked that one out of the park.

Also, you are killing him for not capitalizing Cooper yet you yourself didn't capitalize it in your actual user name.

Lol. That's hilarious. What a dumbshit.

beach tribe 08-22-2017 08:53 PM

ROFL
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 13031215)
If you're going to correct someone, please don't make mistakes yourself.

1) This should be a period or semi-colon.

2) This should be a colon, not a semi-colon.


Thank you,

Chiefsplanet Hall Monitor

ROFL

cooper barrett 08-22-2017 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 13030514)
There probably some truth to this it would be his best chance to get a ring :D

I think that if Alex11 fails to utilize the coaching he is getting he should and would graciously accept PMll taking the helm. He has (IMHO) been told, indirectly, that the writing is on the wall. He has to be successful opening up the field, utilizing all his weapons, threading the needle even when it's uncomfortable, and correcting his previous negative behaviors inable to become a play maker and a game winner.

He has looked good in pre-season and as a seasoned veteran I expect the best unlike the majority of "Whiny Little Bitches" that KC Chiefs Fans have always been. I think he knows failure is not only a career ender here in KC but for the rest of his career.

I think we are going to see a new and improved Alex11 (not Lee Majors) who once he gets his game on, and feels confident in his own shoes, may just take this team all the way. Making assumptions the PMll can do it after 3 quarters in preseason is hilarious. I think he will answer the call and give the Chiefs no reason to go off plan with making PMll the starter next year.

But, (it's a big BUTT) if he fails to preform, he will be in there supporting PMll and the team in the quest for SB rings. If he does walks away with a ring because of PMll, so be it. Alex11 hoping they give his job away in hopes of a ring is ludicrous.

I have my money on Alex11 doing a fine job as our QB and I am thankful that the management brought us PMll just in case we need him this year

Why do you all have so little faith that a 33YO QB can't make changes and improve.

RippedmyFlesh 08-22-2017 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cooper barrett (Post 13031353)
He has looked good in pre-season and as a seasoned veteran I expect the best unlike the majority of "Whiny Little Bitches" that KC Chiefs Fans have always been. I think he knows failure is not only a career ender here in KC but for the rest of his career.

You are the whinny alex cock sucking bitch. **** you coming in here and insulting chiefs fans. We are chiefs fans not a single player fan like your dumbass. He is a pussy like you and will play like one this year as always .

raybec 4 08-22-2017 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RippedmyFlesh (Post 13031574)
You are the whinny alex cock sucking bitch. **** you coming in here and insulting chiefs fans. We are chiefs fans not a single player fan like your dumbass. He is a pussy like you and will play like one this year as always .

You really don't think this is a new account, do you? My cash is on the recently rompered king of fuqtards or penbrook.

rico 08-23-2017 12:24 AM

ROFL

eDave 08-23-2017 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 13030457)
Even if you disagree with that Smitty certainly is not bad like most of the idiot posters on CP claim he is.

Anyway I am taking everything Alex says about Mahomes with a grain of salt. Alex is a class act he is not going to talk bad about Mahomes. He praised Kaepernick as well and now look, Kaepernick can't even get signed as a backup.

When I see Mahomes during regular season light defenses up consistently then I will get excited. Until then... I refuse to get too excited about the guy.

So far Mahomes looks great but we are talking about 3-qrts in preseason... It doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things.

Dude. I was where you are but it's hard not to be excited. Tempered I am but still excited. And I love that my brothers here are stoked as shit. As gay as it can be sometimes.

rico 08-23-2017 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 13030457)
Even if you disagree with that Smitty certainly is not bad like most of the idiot posters on CP claim he is.

Anyway I am taking everything Alex says about Mahomes with a grain of salt. Alex is a class act he is not going to talk bad about Mahomes. He praised Kaepernick as well and now look, Kaepernick can't even get signed as a backup.

When I see Mahomes during regular season light defenses up consistently then I will get excited. Until then... I refuse to get too excited about the guy.

So far Mahomes looks great but we are talking about 3-qrts in preseason... It doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things.

Ok Sandy...

So you respect Alex and consider him to be a class act, but you are taking what he says with a grain of salt? So apparently, you think this class act is purposely fabricating shit?

It's not totally mind boggling that Alex would say nice things about Kaep. Kaep is a better QB than Alex. That's why he beat Alex out for the spot. People can say what they want about Alex, but the guy doesn't seem to be a hater and does seem to have a grip on his own limitations.

Mav 08-23-2017 02:59 AM

Alex Smith praises Patrick Mahomes' ability to absorb coaching
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rico (Post 13031733)
Ok Sandy...



So you respect Alex and consider him to be a class act, but you are taking what he says with a grain of salt? So apparently, you think this class act is purposely fabricating shit?



It's not totally mind boggling that Alex would say nice things about Kaep. Kaep is a better QB than Alex. That's why he beat Alex out for the spot. People can say what they want about Alex, but the guy doesn't seem to be a hater and does seem to have a grip on his own limitations.



Eh. Same situation. Mahomes and Kaepernick were both drafted by the head coach to be the guy. Alex was only a stop gap when they drafted Kaepernick, that was also the lockout offseason. Mahomes is Andy Reid's guy. Alex has no ego about him and will always do what's best for the team. There's no fake ness to him.

Kaepernick however was never under any circumstance a better qb than Alex. Better playmaker. Not a better qb.

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rico 08-23-2017 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mav (Post 13031765)
Eh. Same situation. Mahomes and Kaepernick were both drafted by the head coach to be the guy. Alex was only a stop gap when they drafted Kaepernick, that was also the lockout offseason. Mahomes is Andy Reid's guy. Alex has no ego about him and will always do what's best for the team. There's no fake ness to him.

Kaepernick however was never under any circumstance a better qb than Alex. Better playmaker. Not a better qb.

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Playmaking is kind of a huge part of being a good QB...isn't it?

cooper barrett 08-23-2017 04:29 AM

IMHO Alex11 needs a little less efficiency and a lot more effectiveness and that's what coaches are working with him on. Some play makers are loose cannons and Alex11 is being trained to loosen his cannon up in able to be a "play maker" Alex11 needs to not let it get loose but to get it out and have some fun with it. I think Alex11 may be fun to watch this year!!!!!!

I have never said Alex11 has played the last few years as a solid dependable lackluster QB, but he has been exactly that: Boring yet a highly rated QBs in the NFL. Oh and a real playoff game appearance ( I don't count wild cards)

As I recall SF drafted him as a 1st round #1 overall pic.
If you look at his stats he never had 1 season in SF that was better than at KC
He only played an average of 10 games a season with only 2 16 game seasons out of 8.
In KC he averages 15 1\2 games a season for 4 years
His passing is yardage and ratings overall are higher than ever at SF and his INT % are lower.

KC got more than they expected as he has preformed better for us than at SF.

This year the Chiefs are hitting Alex!! with a double down approach. " Do what we want. open up the field, use your weapons, and make plays, and win games." and "Oh and by the way, meet PMll, he wants your job, badly!"

I personally think that Alex 11 is not only going to play better because of the new approach to his passing game but for the simple reason that he is fighting for the quality of the remainder of his career.

I think that this is our year to win a SB for the first time since 1969. If Alex brings us 6-12 more points every game we should at least get past where we have been in the last 47 years. Getting a chance to play for the AFC title.

IMHO Alex11 will fight to get us there and if need be, we have PMll to take over. When the season is over we better hope that our #10 overall pic learns all he can so when he does step up he plays up to the hype for the next 10-15 years. I will certainly say looking at Alex11's stats at SF they didn't get from Smith what they paid for. Let's hope PMll is a better deal.





Quote:

Originally Posted by rico (Post 13031766)
Playmaking is kind of a huge part of being a good QB...isn't it?


rico 08-23-2017 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooper barrett (Post 13031775)
IMHO Alex11 needs a little less efficiency and a lot more effectiveness and that's what coaches are working with him on. Some play makers are loose cannons and Alex11 is being trained to loosen his cannon up in able to be a "play maker" Alex11 needs to not let it get loose but to get it out and have some fun with it. I think Alex11 may be fun to watch this year!!!!!!

I have never said Alex11 has played the last few years as a solid dependable lackluster QB, but he has been exactly that: Boring yet a highly rated QBs in the NFL. Oh and a real playoff game appearance ( I don't count wild cards)

As I recall SF drafted him as a 1st round #1 overall pic.
If you look at his stats he never had 1 season in SF that was better than at KC
He only played an average of 10 games a season with only 2 16 game seasons out of 8.
In KC he averages 15 1\2 games a season for 4 years
His passing is yardage and ratings overall are higher than ever at SF and his INT % are lower.

KC got more than they expected as he has preformed better for us than at SF.

This year the Chiefs are hitting Alex!! with a double down approach. " Do what we want. open up the field, use your weapons, and make plays, and win games." and "Oh and by the way, meet PMll, he wants your job, badly!"

I personally think that Alex 11 is not only going to play better because of the new approach to his passing game but for the simple reason that he is fighting for the quality of the remainder of his career.

I think that this is our year to win a SB for the first time since 1969. If Alex brings us 6-12 more points every game we should at least get past where we have been in the last 47 years. Getting a chance to play for the AFC title.

IMHO Alex11 will fight to get us there and if need be, we have PMll to take over. When the season is over we better hope that our #10 overall pic learns all he can so when he does step up he plays up to the hype for the next 10-15 years. I will certainly say looking at Alex11's stats at SF they didn't get from Smith what they paid for. Let's hope PMll is a better deal.

I don't know...I look for him to be the same guy we've seen for years now. The same Alex with the same limitations and the same tendencies of becoming a chicken shit at inconvenient times. Not to mention, I thought that quote by Mahomes was a bit telling. When he said something like, "Alex always has a plan in place. Like when he sees the defense lined up a certain way he says he is going here with the ball. When the defense is lined up that way, he is going there with the ball." I think Mahomes meant it as a compliment aimed at Smith being efficient at reading defenses, but I thought his take was pretty telling as to why Smith seems to have moments of being so risk-averse and tends to shit his pants, presumably when things don't go as he "plans" before the snap. I don't think this is something Alex can change in his game...especially at this point in his career.

threebag 08-23-2017 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 13030099)
I've actually woke up every morning looking forward to go to work since drafting him.

Is your line of work automated or more hands on?

Reerun_KC 08-23-2017 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by threebag02 (Post 13031808)
Is your line of work automated or more hands on?

You looking for a job?

JohnV 08-23-2017 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rico (Post 13031766)
Playmaking is kind of a huge part of being a good QB...isn't it?

CK has him beat in playoff success, more 1000 yd receivers, better passer rating. He's a better runner and playmaker. CK took his job and the offensive YPG and PPG increased.

The career percentages also favor CK. TD%, int%, YPA, YPC all have CK ahead of Alex. Alex only has him beat in completion % thanks to rarely throwing the ball more than 10 yards. They can claim Alex is better at all these things we can't quantify, but the proof is in the results. The only thing Alex has been better at is being on a team that is miles better than CKs.

Keep reminding them CK is better. There is no bigger punch to the gut for an Alex fan than the cold hard facts of CK > Alex.

JoeyChuckles 08-23-2017 06:18 AM

Years from now we are going to look back on Alex and be so thankful of the way he helped Mahomes instead of brushing him off like he has every right to do. He's actually looking out for the long-term future of the Chiefs even though he won't be here.

rico 08-23-2017 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnV (Post 13031817)
CK has him beat in playoff success, more 1000 yd receivers, better passer rating. He's a better runner and playmaker. CK took his job and the offensive YPG and PPG increased.

The career percentages also favor CK. TD%, int%, YPA, YPC all have CK ahead of Alex. Alex only has him beat in completion % thanks to rarely throwing the ball more than 10 yards. They can claim Alex is better at all these things we can't quantify, but the proof is in the results. The only thing Alex has been better at is being on a team that is miles better than CKs.

Keep reminding them CK is better. There is no bigger punch to the gut for an Alex fan than the cold hard facts of CK > Alex.

2016: 16 TD's, 4 INT's in 12 games... with a terrible supporting cast... Colin Kaepernick.

Reerun_KC 08-23-2017 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeyChuckles (Post 13031818)
Years from now we are going to look back on Alex and be so thankful of the way he helped Mahomes instead of brushing him off like he has every right to do. He's actually looking out for the long-term future of the Chiefs even though he won't be here.

Not really.

loochy 08-23-2017 07:37 AM

You know what will happen?

Mahomes will play out his rookie deal, we will fail to resign him, and he'll walk to Denver and win multiple SBs.

Because Chiefs
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Sandy Vagina 08-23-2017 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rico (Post 13031829)
2016: 16 TD's, 4 INT's in 12 games... with a terrible supporting cast... Colin Kaepernick.

This is why stats are always tricky. I watched the SF games that didn't conflict with the KC ones. Kaep was quite good in the first half of games I watched.. but was the polar opposite in the 2nd half of the games... and the team lost.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/split...lin-kaepernick

Scroll down the link mid-way to see the first half/second half stats I mention. He was inaccurate and ineffective in so many 2nd halves.. but the numbers won't reflect that as much since they get blurred into the whole of the games.

I don't hate Kaep at all. I never blamed him for the decisions of the coaching/FO. I think he evolved into quite an idiot from the once humble person he was. I don't typically care for backyard baller types that refuse to improve on their weaknesses. But I don't hate, resent, or think of Kaep at all. I actually feel a little bad for him. He got over-hyped early on.. let it get to his sponge-head, and easily fell victim to some strong influences surrounding him. When he started out, it was easy to see the natural talent. Great arm, very fast straight-line speed.. moxie.

He's not a terrible QB.. but he's not good enough to look beyond all the off-field crap that comes with him.. and it's easy to doubt that his football dedication will ever reach an acceptable level.

Halfcan 08-23-2017 08:32 AM

This has turned into a shitty Kape / Alex debate thread. Some people just love reliving that moment again and again and again...

Pasta Little Brioni 08-23-2017 08:36 AM

This is what a true franchise QB looks like. Take note Denver fans.

JohnV 08-23-2017 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rico (Post 13031829)
2016: 16 TD's, 4 INT's in 12 games... with a terrible supporting cast... Colin Kaepernick.

Really only 11 games, one of the games he played one series and didn't pass. Sandy Mcgiblets confirmed there was no garbage time. Sandy puts all the 2nd half problems on one guy, but that's expected of her. There's no excuse for CK out playing Alex on that roster, doesn't matter how Mcgiblets tries to breakdown the numbers.

Ming the Merciless 08-23-2017 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 13031878)
I watched the SF games that didn't conflict with the KC ones.

https://i.imgflip.com/ywep6.jpg

we all know youre a niners 1st fan

WhiteWhale 08-23-2017 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 13031925)
This has turned into a shitty Kape / Alex debate thread. Some people just love reliving that moment again and again and again...

It's like comparing a bag of shit to a box of shit.

We got a solid uncut piece of marble to mold into something beautiful, and we're talking about shit.

SAUTO 08-23-2017 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by cooper barrett (Post 13031180)
I am still working on who your writing style resembles, I just hope you don't home school.

Allow me to me help you out;

You, Sandy and cooper Barrett don't only share identical opinions regarding your Smitty, but you also have similar writing styles.


Should be:

You, Sandy, and Cooper Barrett don't only share identical opinions regarding your Smitty, but you also have similar writing styles.

I could go further but I really see no reason to exert the energy.

I hope the other two parties chime in also....:loser::loser:

I wouldn't be bitching about him not capitalizing your name, you didn't even do it yourself...

ToxSocks 08-23-2017 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by cooper barrett (Post 13031775)
IMHO Alex11 needs a little less efficiency and a lot more effectiveness and that's what coaches are working with him on. Some play makers are loose cannons and Alex11 is being trained to loosen his cannon up in able to be a "play maker" Alex11 needs to not let it get loose but to get it out and have some fun with it. I think Alex11 may be fun to watch this year!!!!!!

I have never said Alex11 has played the last few years as a solid dependable lackluster QB, but he has been exactly that: Boring yet a highly rated QBs in the NFL. Oh and a real playoff game appearance ( I don't count wild cards)

As I recall SF drafted him as a 1st round #1 overall pic.
If you look at his stats he never had 1 season in SF that was better than at KC
He only played an average of 10 games a season with only 2 16 game seasons out of 8.
In KC he averages 15 1\2 games a season for 4 years
His passing is yardage and ratings overall are higher than ever at SF and his INT % are lower.

KC got more than they expected as he has preformed better for us than at SF.

This year the Chiefs are hitting Alex!! with a double down approach. " Do what we want. open up the field, use your weapons, and make plays, and win games." and "Oh and by the way, meet PMll, he wants your job, badly!"

I personally think that Alex 11 is not only going to play better because of the new approach to his passing game but for the simple reason that he is fighting for the quality of the remainder of his career.

I think that this is our year to win a SB for the first time since 1969. If Alex brings us 6-12 more points every game we should at least get past where we have been in the last 47 years. Getting a chance to play for the AFC title.

IMHO Alex11 will fight to get us there and if need be, we have PMll to take over. When the season is over we better hope that our #10 overall pic learns all he can so when he does step up he plays up to the hype for the next 10-15 years. I will certainly say looking at Alex11's stats at SF they didn't get from Smith what they paid for. Let's hope PMll is a better deal.

Between you constantly referring to him as "Alex11", your shit grammar and your shitty opinions, your post is unreadable.

rico 08-23-2017 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 13031878)
This is why stats are always tricky. I watched the SF games that didn't conflict with the KC ones. Kaep was quite good in the first half of games I watched.. but was the polar opposite in the 2nd half of the games... and the team lost.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/split...lin-kaepernick

Scroll down the link mid-way to see the first half/second half stats I mention. He was inaccurate and ineffective in so many 2nd halves.. but the numbers won't reflect that as much since they get blurred into the whole of the games.

I don't hate Kaep at all. I never blamed him for the decisions of the coaching/FO. I think he evolved into quite an idiot from the once humble person he was. I don't typically care for backyard baller types that refuse to improve on their weaknesses. But I don't hate, resent, or think of Kaep at all. I actually feel a little bad for him. He got over-hyped early on.. let it get to his sponge-head, and easily fell victim to some strong influences surrounding him. When he started out, it was easy to see the natural talent. Great arm, very fast straight-line speed.. moxie.

He's not a terrible QB.. but he's not good enough to look beyond all the off-field crap that comes with him.. and it's easy to doubt that his football dedication will ever reach an acceptable level.

Colin Kaepernick:

1st Half: 11 TD's, 3 INT's

2nd Half: 5 TD's, 1 INT


Your Alex:

1st Half: 9 TD's, 4 INT's

2nd Half: 7 TD's, 5 INT's

http://www.nfl.com/player/alexsmith/...tuationalstats

(This doesn't add up with his 15-8 line, so I'm guessing this includes the playoff game). Point is, I'd take those 2nd Half numbers from Kaep over Alex any day of the week, especially since Kaep played in less games than Alex.

Try again, whistle-britches.

chiefzilla1501 08-23-2017 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13030082)
From reports, Andy is hammering the pocket skills every play to Pat.
He knows Pat can play outside the structure of the offense. He's working on getting Pat to play structured ball from the pocket.

Calling plays, using correct technique, finding the mike LB, adapting to changes by the defense (zone, blitz, etc) and utilizing the playbook.This is the biggest reason Alex is the unquestioned starter right now, and it's all learned through experience.

Pat has grown so much since his first OTA practice in May 3 months ago. It would be ideal to give him another 3 months of practice before Andy even thinks about this kid being ready to play.

That's awesome awesome news. This is where I think his big development opportunity is. Biggest benefit being, reduce risk of injury.


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