Browns Trade OL Cam Erving To Chiefs
 

For a 2018 5th Round pick.

Oh Shit.

Please be the end of Jah Reid. Pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease.

SAY WHAY KARAOKE

Not quite the ex-Brown I expected this morning.

Direkshun orgasms

Erving is set to make just under $1.3 million this year and is signed for just over $1.7 million next year on a rookie deal that also includes a team option for the 2019 season.

I'll take it.

So where is he lining up for us? Who is getting the shitcan? (In before Fisher :D)

HAWT STOVE

Damn

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That's amazing value. A 5th for that talent?

Dude....Veach. Holy shit.

I think Veach realized that our OL depth was a pretty glaring weakness during these preseason games.

Give 77 his ****-off papers.

Heh, most redditors on /r/nfl aren't quite saying the Chiefs' won this deal.

Veach picking up all the dudes he scouted and wished we drafted I guess.

Scouting report from Terez: 1. Cameron Erving, 6-5, 313, Florida State

Bio: Three-year starter who played in 55 career games. Turns 23 this year. 34 1/8-inch arms. 10 3/8-inch hands. 5.15 40-yard dash. 30 bench reps. 30.5-inch vertical. 112-inch broad jump. 7.48 3-cone drill. 4.63 20-yard shuttle.

Evaluation: Very long for a center. Has good bend. Can mirror pass rushers with good feet. Converted tackle. Can get to the second level. Can make reach blocks and is big and athletic enough to turn and wall a guy off. Has a big base, can anchor decently in pass pro. Only OK athleticism on screens. Is not a nasty guy but generally gets the job done and can generate movement at the point of attack in the running game. Not sure how aware he is on stunts at center. Good get off at the snap. Flexible enough to get low in his stance in pass pro. Aware as a run blocker; on zone runs he’ll peel off to pick up blitzing backer to create gaps. Wish he showed more pop/effort at the second level and in space. Wish he showed more of a mean streak but will protect his guy - ran over to clean the pile off a gang tackle vs Oregon and was first OL there. Has a powerful punch — shoves guys to the ground a lot. Needs to keep his feet moving in pass pro. Long arms could be an issue in the trenches — squatty guys could get into his body quicker — but has more than enough ability to play guard if center doesn’t work out.

Chiefs coaching>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Cleveland coaching



He will be something here.

Backup swing tackle?
Left guard?

Eh, he's probably really shitty. He's like Haden - people don't seem to be acknowledging how truly terrible he's been the last 2 years.

But the bar he needs to clear is Jah Reid and Jah Reid is ****ing awful. He can probably manage that.

19th overall pick in 2015.

Thoughts about this though?

Chiefs have traded away their 1st (Mahomes), 5th (Erving) and 7th (Acker) picks in 2018 draft.

Holy ****ing shit!

Veach has dick out and all over everything. Faces, tables, bowls of cereal, eyeballs...

Veach is already better than Dorsey.

Veach ain't waiting for the future. He wants to win a super bowl now!

The Browns have been among the best in football at developing OL over the last several years.

His coaching in Cleveland has been fine. He's probably just bad.

That's a good sign.

How can you reach that conclusion before a single regular season snap has been played?

Feeling really ****ing great about it!

If you would have told me 2 years ago that we'd give up a 5th in '18 for Cam Erving, I would have told you to quit ****ing with me.

Veach is killing it.

And bad is still better than Reid.

I like how he actually addresses our needs.

All good trades considering what they received in return. 5th and 7th round picks are negligible. Only way any of this goes south is if Mahomes doesn't pan out, which is doubtful barring a catastrophic injury.

Ragland, Erving, and now showing interest in Haden. Veach ain't messing around

Getting a former 1st round, versatile talent for what should be a late 5th is great value.

I doubt that the Chiefs could have drafted an offensive lineman with his ceiling in the late 5th.

This guy only played two years on offensive line. He might have been bad but is nowhere near his ceiling yet.

Better have been a conditional 5th.

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Erving was awful in Cleveland

Chiefs O line is very good. With the right coaching Erving will be a nice swing tackle. Reid better be cut

Veach out here bustin' heads 'n shit.

There it is.

So y'all finally wised up and got yourselves one of those 1-15 Cleveland Browns. I guess congratulations are in order.

I wonder who else Veach will try and sign or trade for. He ain't ****ing around

810 mentioned that was most likely the case, but they have not confirmed it.

Our tackle depth was truly terrible, so I can't complain... he hasn't played well yet but maybe that changes here like it has for many other players.

Tom Pelissero @TomPelissero
#Chiefs take on the roughly $3 million still guaranteed on Erving's contract over next 2 years. #Browns' new regime gains more flexibility.

Highly doubtful you've ever seen the guy play. Cleveland played him at every position minus left guard. He wasn't good.

It must suck to watch KC land a top 20 draft pick for a future fifth, while Elway just trades swigs off a bottle of Gordon's gin with the Bowlens.

Welcome to last place.

I agree - I suggested am Erving trade in the draft forum yesterday specifically to get rid of Nah Reid. This is a good trade provided that it costs Reid his job and not Witzmann.

But folks are going a wee crazy here. A 5th is about right for a swing tackle/backup interior lineman. This isn't the guy that was a 1st rounder when Direkshun foolishly spent months jerking off to him.

He's a below average NFL player with a cheap contract and some versatility. A 5th is fair. This is a nominal asset spent to address the margins of the roster and a position of some need. It's not a heist - it's just a move that you should probably expect of a solid GM.

I doubt it's Reid that's out, lol.

Have you seen our other tackles? My god....My money is on Reid sticking.

A lot of truth here.

Wonder what is the "catch" i.e. to his play ?

We need "milkman"'s take on him since he is our NFL o-lineman specialist.:thumb:

Agreed. Isiah Battle is the worst lineman I've ever seen play just terrible.

At least he won't be playing center

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Maybe they can trade you Cody Kessler, he'd start in Denver

Ehhhh....I wouldn't be so sure about that. Ehinger is backing up the OG spots and he's not on PUP anymore. We still have Fulton to back up OG and OC. I highly doubt they're keeping 2 swing tackles.

I was worried that you guys went and got Hayden He would have been the 2nd best CB on your team.

Glad you got Erving instead.

SUPER BOWL TIX, PRINT THEM

Nice. Immediately better. Build the OL for Mahomes.

Erving is literally worse than a turnstile. Unless we want Mahomes to get killed this was a bad trade IMO. He's just awful, Browns fans are laughing at us. Come on Veach, spend the money on Haden instead


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The jury is still out on him. He's played for two years with the worst coaching in the NFL. A 5th is a steal for what could still be a really good player. There was a reason he was that high of a pick, and that reason hasn't been disproven yet.

He could absolutely suck. But a 5th is a cheap, cheap, cheap price to pay for a guy who could still turn into a starter and good player - at a position of DIRE need for us, as well.

Hes 2 years removed from the 1st round and despite a ton of opportunity he hasn't improved.

Hes Jonathan Baldwin. His draft status just doesn't matter that much right now. Besides, weren't you on the other side of this conversation with me yesterday?

I'm glad we got him but folks are way overselling him and are way too fired up. I'd bet he's out of football in 2 years. A 5th for that gamble is fine but not world altering.

Donk logic or sour grapes....irrelevant either way. Truth: Good move for Chiefs even he remains a versatile, multi position back up. :)

I think he's started more at center than any other position in the last few years.

Didn't someone wanted him in the draft and was pissed they didn't pick him up.

5th rounder? All day long. They are always a gamble pick anyway.:clap:

We're not blowing a bunch of money on him. His cap hits are $1.2M each year.

veach is playing madden

People are up in arms over losing a 4th and a 5th round pick? Who gives a shit

They are "decent" not "very good" at this point at least in the run game so far this pre-season, what I am watching for once the season starts will be the pass blocking. This must improve if Alex supposedly gets more aggressive downfield this season. Otherwise it will be 'primary' then to check down'.

If we don't sign Haden I still expect Veach to sign a CB after teams cut down their final 53

.

Giving up a 5th for Jonathan Baldwin would have been considered a terrible move for another team back when we unloaded him.

Exactly. And if Witzman sticks (I think he can), there's simply no room for Reid.

:facepalm:

Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter
Chiefs using future draft picks to build present roster- Patrick Mahomes, Reggie Ragland, Cam Erving.

If the Chiefs are smart.....they take Erving and decide on one ****ing position for him. Build him up as a swing tackle. The Browns kind of ****ed themselves by moving him around a bunch.