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O.city 09-25-2017 06:25 PM

Dee Ford Injury
 
Any updates on Dee?

jjchieffan 09-25-2017 06:25 PM

Torn Labia

Reerun_KC 09-25-2017 06:33 PM

Bruised vagina.


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ClevelandBronco 09-25-2017 06:35 PM

Hurt his hooha?

Sandy Vagina 09-25-2017 06:55 PM

Chiefs should get KPass out there rushing the edge. He could just be a better option anyway. Still, get well soon, Dee.. you don't totally suck.

TLO 09-25-2017 06:56 PM

But will this impact his first step?

RunKC 09-25-2017 07:16 PM

Hip spasms

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1AjDkZ6bwA

BryanBusby 09-25-2017 07:17 PM

Strained pussy

TomBarndtsTwin 09-25-2017 07:24 PM

ANOTHER labia tear?!? . . . . . . . . . . . . shit.

Tribal Warfare 09-25-2017 07:26 PM

That eliminates part of the run defense problem. hopefully Kpass can overtake Zombo too

Pasta Little Brioni 09-25-2017 07:37 PM

Zombo is worthless

WhawhaWhat 09-25-2017 08:31 PM

1st and 2nd downitis.

O.city 09-25-2017 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13105749)

Wonder what the length is on this. He gonna miss time?

Willie Lanier 09-25-2017 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy Vagina (Post 13105705)
Chiefs should get KPass out there rushing the edge. He could just be a better option anyway. Still, get well soon, Dee.. you don't totally suck.

:clap:

KChiefs1 09-25-2017 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 13105768)
That eliminates part of the run defense problem. hopefully Kpass can overtake Zombo too



His inability to overtake Zombo concerns me.

O.city 09-25-2017 08:44 PM

Ford played the run better against the chargers

Either way he's a big part of the defense and would be missed

KCrockaholic 09-25-2017 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 13105972)
His inability to overtake Zombo concerns me.

Zombo has always sucked but the staff loves him so they let him stick around.

BryanBusby 09-25-2017 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 13105972)
His inability to overtake Zombo concerns me.

Uh, why?

He's 100% raw ffs guys.

Black Bob 09-25-2017 08:52 PM

Doesn't really matter. We gave two LOLBs who can only play LOLB effectively. It's our deepest position. Losing Hali is worse. He brings pressure in the right side.

LoneWolf 09-25-2017 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Bob (Post 13105997)
Doesn't really matter. We gave two LOLBs who can only play LOLB effectively. It's our deepest position. Losing Hali is worse. He brings pressure in the right side.

Dumbass. Houston is quite capable of playing on the right side.

Mr. Arrowhead 09-25-2017 09:44 PM

Rushing D improved a ton when he went out

TRR 09-26-2017 07:49 AM

Was hoping to see Tanoh get a few third down snaps after Dee went out. Zombo was not providing any pressure.

Danguardace 09-26-2017 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by TRR (Post 13106538)
Was hoping to see Tanoh get a few third down snaps after Dee went out. Zombo was not providing any pressure.

Tanoh had a couple of snaps in garbage time, Got Stoned by the RT pretty much

Aspengc8 09-26-2017 09:38 AM

#92 LE




scho63 09-26-2017 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 13105972)
His inability to overtake Zombo concerns me.

It's not a talent issue, it's a learning curve issue.

Knowing where to be at the right time and recognize offensive schemes.

His talent is much greater but you also need a brain and experience in the NFL.

Don't be concerned......:shake:

BlackHelicopters 09-26-2017 12:29 PM

Torn taint

Titty Meat 09-26-2017 12:35 PM

Prolapsed vagina

DaneMcCloud 09-26-2017 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 13105972)
His inability to overtake Zombo concerns me.

At 6'7, Tanoh should be a DE, not an OLB

Aspengc8 09-26-2017 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13107125)
At 6'7, Tanoh should be a DE, not an OLB

he needs about 20-30lbs to play DE in a odd scheme. even front scheme yeah he could probably drop right in.

ClevelandBronco 09-26-2017 04:42 PM

Tweaked his twat.

Chiefshrink 09-26-2017 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 13105972)
His inability to overtake Zombo concerns me.

It shouldn't. KPass is just still in that "thinking" phase as opposed to "natural reaction". Athletically he is head and shoulders above FZ but Zombo knows how to react better but just gets athletically outplayed 90% of the time by the opponents.:D

Chiefshrink 09-26-2017 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 13107063)
It's not a talent issue, it's a learning curve issue.

Knowing where to be at the right time and recognize offensive schemes.

His talent is much greater but you also need a brain and experience in the NFL.

Don't be concerned......:shake:

BINGO !!

chiefforlife 09-27-2017 06:52 PM

Anything on Dee Ford yet?????

Hog's Gone Fishin 09-27-2017 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 13109328)
Anything on Dee Ford yet?????

Yep, still sux

JoeyChuckles 09-27-2017 07:13 PM

If we were to use a car analogy, I'd say Dee Ford is a Chevrolet among Cadillacs.

milkman 09-27-2017 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Bob (Post 13105997)
Doesn't really matter. We gave two LOLBs who can only play LOLB effectively. It's our deepest position. Losing Hali is worse. He brings pressure in the right side.

Good to know that excessive stupidity is alive and well.

Direckshun 09-28-2017 12:40 PM

Not practicing today due to "back soreness."

Yikes.

philfree 09-28-2017 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 13110210)
Not practicing today due to "back soreness."

Yikes.

He's had back spasms/issues every year he's been in the league. He has till Monday night to get right so it's porbably going to be okay.

tooge 09-28-2017 12:55 PM

Stepped on his cock

staylor26 09-28-2017 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 13109588)
Good to know that excessive stupidity is alive and well.

LMAO

KChiefs1 09-28-2017 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tooge (Post 13110229)
Stepped on his cock



That's Chris Jones.

penbrook 09-28-2017 01:13 PM

We need Hali back. Never thought I would say that

saphojunkie 09-28-2017 01:13 PM

Everyone has stepped on Chris Jones' cock.

Deberg_1990 10-10-2017 08:11 AM

What's the update? When will he return to dominate?

BigRedChief 10-10-2017 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 13110251)
Everyone has stepped on Chris Jones' cock.

Seems like that would piss a guy off. He's a mountain of a man. I'd hate to have a pissed off at me Chris Jones.

scho63 11-24-2017 08:25 PM

He has been ruled out again against the Bills.

Worthless tin can!

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl...186404613.html

Dee Ford out, but Albert Wilson’s playing prospects look promising for Chiefs

jspchief 11-24-2017 08:34 PM

He's biding his time until he can face the worst backup tackle in the league to pad his stats.

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Reerun_KC 11-24-2017 08:39 PM

How long does a yeast infection last?

Jesus.

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-24-2017 08:45 PM

JFC this defense needs an eleventy billion PSI enema, and yes I'm going to start blaming Dorsey.
How many seasons are we in to this regime, and I'm STILL seeing the name "Frank ****ing Zombo" being discussed?!?!?

**** that shit.

Veach needs to fire up his ass-kicking boots this offseason and start taking the ****ing trash out.

jspchief 11-24-2017 08:54 PM

This really shouldn't surprise anyone. The dude had an all world first step from day one, and couldn't crack the lineup. He's never had the head or heart to be a pro.

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notorious 11-24-2017 08:55 PM

This team is loaded with injury-prone pussies.

RunKC 11-24-2017 09:03 PM

People blame Bob Sutton solely for the defense being a mess but look at the talent. Houston is our only pass rusher and we don't have a #2 CB.

I don't even want to think about where we would be if Veach didn't get us Ragland and KPL.

OKchiefs 11-24-2017 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13235744)
People blame Bob Sutton solely for the defense being a mess but look at the talent. Houston is our only pass rusher and we don't have a #2 CB.

I don't even want to think about where we would be if Veach didn't get us Ragland and KPL.

I wouldn't call Houston much of a pass rusher anymore, unfortunately.

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-24-2017 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 13235740)
This team is loaded with injury-prone pussies.

We'll never be mean or have an edge with Sutton and his cheese-assed 3-4.

****ing sucks.

JakeF 11-24-2017 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13235744)
People blame Bob Sutton solely for the defense being a mess but look at the talent. Houston is our only pass rusher and we don't have a #2 CB.

I don't even want to think about where we would be if Veach didn't get us Ragland and KPL.

Othere teams create more pass rush with less

Houston needs to be moved to ROLB/DE permanently. Then he can flip-flop to whichever DE side he thinks the offensive set warrants. That would at least put some pressure on the offense to adapt.

I would also say add some stunts/slants etc but we don't seem to be able to handle anything but basic defense without doing something stupid.

All In 11-24-2017 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 13235740)
This team is loaded with injury-prone pussies.

No different than any other team.

ThaVirus 11-24-2017 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 13235745)
I wouldn't call Houston much of a pass rusher anymore, unfortunately.

Would love to see who you would then. Let's hear it..

He's still one of the most efficient pass rushers in the league. He's got 7.5 sacks to Von Miller's 8, Khalil Mack's 5.5 and JJ Watt's 0 in 5 games this season.

Red Dawg 11-24-2017 10:09 PM

We have no pass rushers. Houston is damaged goods. Easy of money that they need to trade.

The Franchise 11-24-2017 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 13235783)
We have no pass rushers. Houston is damaged goods. Easy of money that they need to trade.

You’re a butt ****ing moron

TLO 11-24-2017 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 13235745)
I wouldn't call Houston much of a pass rusher anymore, unfortunately.

He has 7.5 sacks on the season

OKchiefs 11-24-2017 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TLO (Post 13235797)
He has 7.5 sacks on the season

And got shut down in the 2 games he should have dominated against backup tackles.

TLO 11-24-2017 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 13235809)
And got shut down in the 2 games he should have dominated against backup tackles.

:rolleyes:

NJChiefsFan 11-24-2017 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 13235813)
:rolleyes:

It was a very bad showing, the previous posters melodramatics not withstanding. Those are games where leaders like him would ideally step up.

pugsnotdrugs19 11-24-2017 10:49 PM

Anyone trying to dispute Houston's quality of play is just reading the stat sheet... at the beginning of the year I was curious as to what was up with him, and I've watched all-22 of the games this year.

He still dominates when given opportunities to do so, but he's struggling to pile up the mega sack numbers for two reasons. 1) He isn't getting any consistent help from other pass rushers and 2) the coverage has been pretty poor.

Why do you think that Bosa and Ingram are both racking up sacks like crazy? They feed off of each other and it allows them both to have ample 1v1s. Also, their coverage has been better.

NJChiefsFan 11-24-2017 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13235818)
Anyone trying to dispute Houston's quality of play is just reading the stat sheet... at the beginning of the year I was curious as to what was up with him, and I've watched all-22 of the games this year.

He still dominates when given opportunities to do so, but he's struggling to pile up the mega sack numbers for two reasons. 1) He isn't getting any consistent help from other pass rushers and 2) the coverage has been pretty poor.

Why do you think that Bosa and Ingram are both racking up sacks like crazy? They feed off of each other and it allows them both to have ample 1v1s. Also, their coverage has been better.

I pretty much had an all 22 view from my seats. Certainly could be wrong but I didn't see much of anything from him going against an undrafted rookie. Actual sacks aren't really my concern.

pugsnotdrugs19 11-24-2017 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 13235823)
I pretty much had an all 22 view from my seats. Certainly could be wrong but I didn't see much of anything from him going against an undrafted rookie. Actual sacks aren't really my concern.

I watched it last night with a focus on Houston. The truth is the defense isn't getting in near enough 3rd & longs to allow the rushers to really go after the QB. Also, he's still dropping into coverage WAY too much. There's no other threat opposite of him so he gets chipped by backs and TEs a ton. Eli, much like Carr did earlier in the season, got rid of the ball extremely fast on Sunday.

And despite all of these factors, Houston still managed 5 QB pressures against NY. He still made a few tremendous plays in run defense. I promise, he's still a force. He's just got a lot of things going against him right now.

Frazod 11-24-2017 11:12 PM

If Derrick Rose played football......

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-24-2017 11:19 PM

Between Houston, Berry, Peters, and Jones, I see plenty to build upon. Nit picking Houston or any of these guys at this point is just pure horse shit. When all four are present, and assuming Veach can add more to the roster, even Sutton will be hard pressed to **** it up.
That said, I'm really ****ing tired of 3-4 Sutton and wish he would ride off to the Land of Metamucil, please.

RunKC 11-24-2017 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 13235848)
Between Houston, Berry, Peters, and Jones, I see plenty to build upon. Nit picking Houston or any of these guys at this point is just pure horse shit. When all four are present, and assuming Veach can add more to the roster, even Sutton will be hard pressed to **** it up.
That said, I'm really ****ing tired of 3-4 Sutton and wish he would ride off to the Land of Metamucil, please.

Nothing he can do. I've seen the old man try several different schemes, including 4 linemen up front.

Dorsey ****ed this coaching staff over hard. When names like Frank Zombo and Josh Mauga are STILL potential starters on your goddamn roster heading into training camp after 3 years and you have no answer, your ass deserves to get escorted out of the building.

The worst problems on this defense are pass rush and corner. Dorsey's entire 2014 draft was about fixing this shit and he drafted two pussies made of glass that deserve nothing but a swift kick in the ass and a sentence to the pit of mysery.

Seriously. If Dee Ford and Philip Gaines were even league average at their positions with the ability to stay on the field, where are we right now? We're probably nowhere near as bad as we've been.

Thankfully Veach made some solid moves in Ragland and KPL. At least they are competent starters with some upside. It took Veach 1 month to find a better ILB than Dorsey did in 4 tries through 4 ****ing years.

Chiefshrink 11-25-2017 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13235818)
They feed off of each other and it allows them both to have ample 1v1s.

You are correct. When there is absolutely no direct threat from the other side of Houston, o-lines can much more easily neutralize Houston or at least significantly slow him down.

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-25-2017 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13235875)
Nothing he can do. I've seen the old man try several different schemes, including 4 linemen up front.

Dorsey ****ed this coaching staff over hard. When names like Frank Zombo and Josh Mauga are STILL potential starters on your goddamn roster heading into training camp after 3 years and you have no answer, your ass deserves to get escorted out of the building.

The worst problems on this defense are pass rush and corner. Dorsey's entire 2014 draft was about fixing this shit and he drafted two pussies made of glass that deserve nothing but a swift kick in the ass and a sentence to the pit of mysery.

Seriously. If Dee Ford and Philip Gaines were even league average at their positions with the ability to stay on the field, where are we right now? We're probably nowhere near as bad as we've been.

Thankfully Veach made some solid moves in Ragland and KPL. At least they are competent starters with some upside. It took Veach 1 month to find a better ILB than Dorsey did in 4 tries through 4 ****ing years.

Agreed, though I still vomit at Sutton's cheese-dick 3-4.

MMXcalibur 11-25-2017 02:16 AM

I bet Dee Ford has a torn lab...

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 13105632)
Torn Labia

Never mind, sources close to me say that he has a bruised va....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 13105662)
Bruised vagina.

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Wait guys, I just heard over the radio! Ford hurt his hooh....

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco (Post 13105665)
Hurt his hooha?

....**** it.

ChiefGator 11-25-2017 05:17 AM

There was a recent article somewhere that showed we have better pass defense overall when Houston drops in coverage. And it wasn't even close.

With no coverage, we can't get the 2-3 seconds needed to even mount pressure on the QB much.

HemiEd 11-25-2017 06:08 AM

This team misses Berry and Poe, a lot, IMO. Gaines is a bust, DJ is a shadow of his old self and the rest of the CBs all have warts. Jones and Houston are it. :(

mcaj22 11-25-2017 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefGator (Post 13235938)
There was a recent article somewhere that showed we have better pass defense overall when Houston drops in coverage. And it wasn't even close.

With no coverage, we can't get the 2-3 seconds needed to even mount pressure on the QB much.

it shows you how bad the ILBers are if your OLB pass rusher is your best coverage linebacker. They really need a good athletic ILB that can actually play and stop the run and cover the pass to make Suttons stupid scheme work as best as it should.

They could rush Houston more if they had another LBer worth a crap on this team

Chiefs Moon 11-25-2017 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 13105972)
His inability to overtake Zombo concerns me.

Yup. And his inability to get meaningful snaps concerns me even more. He was drafted as a D lineman. Moved to OLB and can't get on the field. On the plus side, he looks good in the weight room.

Chiefs Moon 11-25-2017 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13107125)
At 6'7, Tanoh should be a DE, not an OLB

Right. A 4-3 DE.

ILChief 11-25-2017 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 13235843)
If Derrick Rose played football......

At least Derrick Rose was great for a short period of time

pugsnotdrugs19 11-25-2017 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 13235942)
This team misses Berry and Poe, a lot, IMO. Gaines is a bust, DJ is a shadow of his old self and the rest of the CBs all have warts. Jones and Houston are it. :(

2014 Poe? Sure. 2016 Poe? No.

oldman 11-25-2017 09:47 AM

Houston is getting doubled or chipped on every play he goes after the QB. There's no help for him. At this point, put Kpass in on the other side on passing downs. Dee Ford and Gaines need to go after this year, if not sooner.


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