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RINGLEADER 10-15-2017 05:51 PM

Tyreek Hill Concussion Watch (Updates Here)
 
Put everything you know about Tyreek Hill and his melon here...

Per Mike Florio of ProFootballTalk.com, during SNF halftime, Tyreek Hill has no concussion...

More here: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-a-concussion/

Bowser 10-15-2017 05:57 PM

All I know is that should hae been a ****ing flag on the Stealers for some rather blatant helmet to helmet action on Tyreek.

penbrook 10-15-2017 05:57 PM

NFL crew says he probably won’t be ready for Thursday. Well Cowher said that

Why Not? 10-15-2017 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 13153760)
NFL crew says he probably won’t be ready for Thursday. Well Cowher said that

I'd be surprised if he was.

lcarus 10-15-2017 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 13153757)
All I know is that should hae been a ****ing flag on the Stealers for some rather blatant helmet to helmet action on Tyreek.

Big time

scho63 10-15-2017 05:59 PM

Steelers led with their helmets ALL GAME long and they also hit Kelce late in the game after he made a catch.

Easy 6 10-15-2017 06:02 PM

All I know, is that there was no question in my mind he wouldnt come out of that clean... he was demolished by two trucks at the same time

MahiMike 10-15-2017 06:02 PM

Hate to say it but he's not the best WR in contested areas. I think the offense clicked with Robinson. Hill shoulda caught that pass on sidelines.

-King- 10-15-2017 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 13153757)
All I know is that should hae been a ****ing flag on the Stealers for some rather blatant helmet to helmet action on Tyreek.

That's not how helmet to helmet rules work. It was a good no call.
Posted via Mobile Device

Bowser 10-15-2017 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 13153816)
That's not how helmet to helmet rules work. It was a good no call.
Posted via Mobile Device

So leading with a helmet into the helmet of another guy isn't a penalty? Well, my bad then.

petegz28 10-15-2017 06:06 PM

Reid said he looked better than West....

oaklandhater 10-15-2017 06:07 PM

It's so sad watching our WR core burn this season. :(

ChiTown 10-15-2017 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 13153825)
So leading with a helmet into the helmet of another guy isn't a penalty? Well, my bad then.

Yeah, it’s a penalty, as was the play on West

Rasputin 10-15-2017 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 13153757)
All I know is that should hae been a ****ing flag on the Stealers for some rather blatant helmet to helmet action on Tyreek.

That wasn't the only one they got away with

ThaVirus 10-15-2017 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 13153825)
So leading with a helmet into the helmet of another guy isn't a penalty? Well, my bad then.

He was a runner. He's fair game.

Rasputin 10-15-2017 06:10 PM

I think he will play Thursday night but I don't think they will put him on KR

petegz28 10-15-2017 06:10 PM

Chiefs defense just got ripped on NFL Night in America

carcosa 10-15-2017 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 13153858)
He was a runner. He's fair game.

Pretty sure helmet to helmet isn't allowed regardless of whether the guy with the ball is a "runner"

Jerok 10-15-2017 06:18 PM

Our defense only allowed 19 points to a team with Bell, Rothlesburger, and Brown, so that's pretty good.

ping2000 10-15-2017 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 13153760)
NFL crew says he probably won’t be ready for Thursday. Well Cowher said that

Cowher needs a bib to catch his drool. **** that reerun to hell.

kevonm 10-15-2017 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 13153897)
Pretty sure helmet to helmet isn't allowed regardless of whether the guy with the ball is a "runner"

I believe carcosa is correct. Hits with the crown of the helmet are illegal

carcosa 10-15-2017 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerok (Post 13153911)
Our defense only allowed 19 points to a team with Bell, Rothlesburger, and Brown, so that's pretty good.

A lot of that had to do with them taking their sweet time eviscerating the run d.

RINGLEADER 10-15-2017 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerok (Post 13153911)
Our defense only allowed 19 points to a team with Bell, Rothlesburger, and Brown, so that's pretty good.

Actually 17 -- with 7 of those coming on a fluke play.

We will win 95% of the games we play when we hold the other team to 17.

Andy just needs to make adjustments faster and we need our starting O-Line back.

We'll be closer to 30 than 13 next week unless Andy loses his mind again...

Bowser 10-15-2017 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 13153858)
He was a runner. He's fair game.

So guys running with the ball can be targeted in their helmets by a defender leading with his helmet? Is that what I'm to understand here?

Bowser 10-15-2017 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 13153930)
Actually 17 -- with 7 of those coming on a fluke play.

We will win 95% of the games we play when we hold the other team to 17.

Andy just needs to make adjustments faster and we need our starting O-Line back.

We'll be closer to 30 than 13 next week unless Andy loses his mind again...

Yes. This team needs both Morse and Ehinger back, asap.

The Franchise 10-15-2017 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 13153858)
He was a runner. He's fair game.

Lol umm no.

ChiTown 10-15-2017 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13153943)
Lol umm no.

I fear that some of our fans have CTE issues of their own....

kevonm 10-15-2017 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 13153949)
I fear that some of our fans have CTE issues of their own....

I am not sure the hit was illegal. It didn't look like a hit with the crown of the helmet, love to see a replay though

ThaVirus 10-15-2017 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 13153897)
Pretty sure helmet to helmet isn't allowed regardless of whether the guy with the ball is a "runner"

Helmet to helmet hits happen all game long and they aren't called. It's only ever called when it's on a QB, a defenseless receiver, or when the runner is wrapped up by another player.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevonm (Post 13153922)
I believe carcosa is correct. Hits with the crown of the helmet are illegal

Did they hit him with the crown of the helmet? Looked to me like they just tackled him. Hard hit but nothing malicious.

I'd need to see another angle.

CupidStunt 10-15-2017 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerok (Post 13153911)
Our defense only allowed 19 points to a team with Bell, Rothlesburger, and Brown, so that's pretty good.

Would've been 40 if they needed it. Hopefully no one's kidding themselves about that.

dirk digler 10-15-2017 08:05 PM

NBC halftime reported Hill has no concussion

staylor26 10-15-2017 08:05 PM

No concussion for Hill

Just heard it

ThaVirus 10-15-2017 08:05 PM

Dude on the SNF halftime break said Tyreek was evaluated but never actually suffered a concussion.

DaneMcCloud 10-15-2017 08:06 PM

No concussion per Mike Florio on NBC SNF Halftime report

The Rick 10-15-2017 08:06 PM

Florio just reported on NBC that Hill did not have a concussion.

carcosa 10-15-2017 08:07 PM

I HAVE JUST RECEIVED WORD THAT HILL DID NOT GET A CONCOUSSION>>!!!!!! HTANK THE LORD

-King- 10-15-2017 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13153943)
Lol umm no.

Yes. Unless the tackler was leading with the crown of his helmet, hitting helmet to helmet is fair game on a runner.
Posted via Mobile Device

007 10-15-2017 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 13153710)
Put everything you know about Tyreek Hill and his melon here...

Sure hope you intend to put any significant news in the OP.

TLO 10-15-2017 08:15 PM

Glad to hear he doesn't have a concussion, we need him for Thursday night.

RINGLEADER 10-15-2017 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 007 (Post 13154545)
Sure hope you intend to put any significant news in the OP.

By your command...

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007 10-15-2017 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 13154686)

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WhiteWhale 10-16-2017 07:12 AM

It is a foul if a player initiates unnecessary contact against a player who is in a defenseless posture.

Players in a defenseless posture are:
A player in the act of or just after throwing a pass (passing posture)

A receiver attempting to catch a pass who has not had time to clearly become a runner. If the player is capable of avoiding or warding off the impending contact of an opponent, he is no longer a defenseless player

The intended receiver of a pass in the action during and immediately following an interception or potential interception. If the player is capable of avoiding or warding off the impending contact of an opponent, he is no longer a defenseless player. Note: Violations of this provision will be enforced after the interception, and the intercepting team will maintain possession.

A runner already in the grasp of a tackler and whose forward progress has been stopped

A kickoff or punt returner attempting to field a kick in the air

A player on the ground

A kicker/punter during the kick or during the return (Also see Article 6(h) for additional restrictions against a kicker/punter)

A quarterback at any time after a change of possession (Also see Article 9(f) for additional restrictions against a quarterback after a change of possession)

A player who receives a “blindside” block when the path of the offensive blocker is toward or parallel to his own end line.

A player who is protected from an illegal crackback block (see Article 2)

The offensive player who attempts a snap during a Field Goal attempt or a Try Kick


Prohibited contact against a player who is in a defenseless posture is:

forcibly hitting the defenseless player’s head or neck area with the helmet, facemask, forearm, or shoulder, even if the initial contact is lower than the player’s neck, and regardless of whether the defensive player also uses his arms to tackle the defenselessplayer by encircling or grasping him

lowering the head and making forcible contact with the crown or ”hairline” parts of the helmet against any part of the defenseless player’s body

illegally launching into a defenseless opponent. It is an illegal launch if a player (i) leaves both feet prior to contact to spring forward and upward into his opponent, and (ii) uses any part of his helmet to initiate forcible contact against any part of his opponent’s body. (This does not apply to contact against a runner, unless the runner is still considered to be a defenseless player, as defined in Article 7.)

TEX 10-16-2017 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 13155673)
t is a foul if a player initiates unnecessary contact against a player who is in a defenseless posture.

Players in a defenseless posture are:
A player in the act of or just after throwing a pass (passing posture)

A receiver attempting to catch a pass who has not had time to clearly become a runner. If the player is capable of avoiding or warding off the impending contact of an opponent, he is no longer a defenseless player

The intended receiver of a pass in the action during and immediately following an interception or potential interception. If the player is capable of avoiding or warding off the impending contact of an opponent, he is no longer a defenseless player. Note: Violations of this provision will be enforced after the interception, and the intercepting team will maintain possession.

A runner already in the grasp of a tackler and whose forward progress has been stopped

A kickoff or punt returner attempting to field a kick in the air

A player on the ground

A kicker/punter during the kick or during the return (Also see Article 6(h) for additional restrictions against a kicker/punter)

A quarterback at any time after a change of possession (Also see Article 9(f) for additional restrictions against a quarterback after a change of possession)

A player who receives a “blindside” block when the path of the offensive blocker is toward or parallel to his own end line.

A player who is protected from an illegal crackback block (see Article 2)

The offensive player who attempts a snap during a Field Goal attempt or a Try Kick

Pitt did a lot of what is in bold print yesterday.

WhiteWhale 10-16-2017 07:14 AM

I'm not sure the reek play was illegal, I'd have to see it again, but the hit on West absolutely was.

TEX 10-16-2017 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 13155676)
I'm not sure the reek play was illegal, but the hit on West absolutely was.

Yep. That is the one I am referring to. Romo said," You cant do that" as West was walking off the field. They also hit Hunt late often.

FlaChief58 10-16-2017 05:34 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per source, it was determined Chiefs WR Tyreek Hill does not have a concussion.</p>&mdash; ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/919742288170856449?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 16, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Great news!

Reerun_KC 10-16-2017 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ping2000 (Post 13153921)
Cowher needs a bib to catch his drool. **** that reerun to hell.



This. Cowherd is aids.

Buehler445 10-16-2017 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ping2000 (Post 13153921)
Cowher needs a bib to catch his drool. **** that reerun to hell.

Can you believe some mouthbreathing mongoloids wanted him when we hired Reid? I believe I'm on record as saying I was done with the Chiefs of it happens.

God he's not even good at the simple shit CBS sells.

GloryDayz 10-16-2017 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 13153757)
All I know is that should hae been a ****ing flag on the Stealers for some rather blatant helmet to helmet action on Tyreek.

The officials had pretty-much let both sides know that they were going to let the Steelers play. It was all you described, but the Chiefs sure didn't reciprocate. Spoons in a gun fight!

Dartgod 10-17-2017 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 13153848)
It's so sad watching our WR core burn this season. :(

Receiving corps. Geeez, people!

fan4ever 10-17-2017 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 13158033)
Receiving corps. Geeez, people!

He just didn't want to pull an Obama on that so he played it safe.

Easy 6 10-17-2017 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 13157483)
Can you believe some mouthbreathing mongoloids wanted him when we hired Reid? I believe I'm on record as saying I was done with the Chiefs of it happens.

God he's not even good at the simple shit CBS sells.

I was kinda one of them at the time, clearly hadnt thought it through :facepalm:... he always comes off as the biggest idiot on the CBS crew

His success was a product of Dick LeBeau, and later on lucking into Roethlisberger

KranzDictum 10-17-2017 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 13153935)
So guys running with the ball can be targeted in their helmets by a defender leading with his helmet? Is that what I'm to understand here?

If he puts his head down to run through a guy then yes it is legal and it happens all the time, RB's do it all the time which is why I think the NFL cannot legislate helmet to helmet hits out of the game.

Hits are going to happen and it sucks when a safety makes a great play to break up a ball but ends up contacting helmets when both guys are in the air and the O ends up getting a 15 yard flag and extending drives.

KranzDictum 10-17-2017 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flachief58 (Post 13157010)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per source, it was determined Chiefs WR Tyreek Hill does not have a concussion.</p>&mdash; ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/919742288170856449?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 16, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Great news!

I thought they said that during the game too?

I was busy building a Corsair with my son and not really watching the game.

Easy 6 10-17-2017 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KranzDictum (Post 13158261)
I thought they said that during the game too?

I was busy building a Corsair with my son and not really watching the game.

We're duly impressed, Dickweed

GloryDayz 10-17-2017 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 13158033)
Receiving corps. Geeez, people!

I think he misspelled corpse.


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