Does this team have an internal QB controversy?
 

This team has went south since the Steelers came to town. The tape showed Smith missing 4 to 5 TD opportunities. There have been other missed chances since. You know the players see the tape.

Meanwhile, we are starting to hear Mahomes is killing it in practice. From the players.

Coaches aren't going to say it publicly, but they don't have to. Players know.

Herd on Sunday Night Football that the Chiefs are playing with no passion. Both before the game and at halftime.

I'm guessing the players know it's time to play the guy that gives the team the best chance.

There absolutely should be a Quarterback controversy and it started the day we drafted Patrick by moving up 17 spots to get him.

Let's hope there is.

Been sayin...

Nothing more demoralizing knowing you are fighting with one arm tied behind your back for sure.:hmmm:

There is no way in hell the players have any faith in Smith left. You can't have your QB play as bad as he has the last five games and keep faith. Smith had no rings and nothing he has ever done gives him that respect. If Andy benched him I highly doubt any player would complain. Smith deserves to be benched and let's face it, he should have been cut. Mahomes should start this week but of course it won't happen. Andy is scared to make that move because of Alex delicate feelings may get hurt. After the Bills kick his ass it will be Armageddon at Arrowhead.

The most telling point is the way that despite the 'new Alex' of this season, each and every defense for the last month and a half has openly laughed at him by ganging up on Hunt.

Absolutely no one fears him, well apart from his own offense, defense and fans.

No

Press: Any chance of possibly seeing PMII anytime soon?

Andy: "Hey, I just need to do a better job putting Alex in a better place to perform and call better plays. It's on me.":rolleyes:

Press: You have lost the last 4/5 games averaging just 17 pts in those 4 losses with AS missing numerous WRs downfield. Are you concerned at all that this offense is severely sputtering knowing that you have PM2 that at least gives you a chance to connect on those downfield passes thus providing a spark for this offense getting KH going again because now defenses MUST respect PM2's arm?

Andy: Okay let's just stop with the change at QB talk. Like I said, this is on me and anymore change at the QB position talk will not be addressed.:rolleyes:

There is no internal QB controversy.

When Mahomes was drafted every single scout, talking head, etc., said he was extremely raw and would need AT LEAST one year on the bench.

Reid immediately declared he wouldn't play the kid this year. Once camp rolled around Smith took the snaps with the ones. There was never an open competition.

People are trying to make a big deal out of the fact that he runs the scout team. So what. You don't read defenses, call plays, make adjustments at the line, etc.

Plus, the team is still in first place. There is no way in hell Andy Reid (or 99% of head coaches for that matter) is going to put in a raw rookie QB because the focus of attention would by on Andy Reid.

Andy is plain old stupid. He can't take his personal feelings out of it and make the move. This season will end a loser and he will help that along because he's got no guts.

Did you make all of this up?

Of course. The KC media wouldn't ever dare ask any questions that had any bite at all

I imagine Monday morning goes something like
"Coach, so....have you given any thought to the decision that needs to be made"

and Andy says
"yeah, i slept on it. I really think it's best if we use the spicy BBQ sauce for Wednesday Rib Day in the cafeteria".

The posts in this thread is the reason why a lot of you morons should never coach a football team at any level. There is no internal QB controversy. Why some of you would hope there is when it would be bad for the Chiefs I wonder... Makes me question what you think is more important what is good for the Chiefs or how you can satisfy your irrational hatred of Smitty?

Despite his struggles recently he still is pretty much top 5-10 in all major QB categories

QB Rating - 107.6 - #2
Compl % - 69.4 - #2
Yds - 2,674 - #5 Yds/Gm - 267 - #7
TDs - 18 - #6
INTs - 3 - Tied #2

He's doing fine overall. We are struggling right now on offense and he had a really bad game but you don't bench the guy and start a raw rookie over that. Reid has a good enough of an offensive mind to figure things out and get this offense/Alex 'Montana' Smith on track.

Smitty will bounce back. #GoSmittyGoChiefs

LMAO
bwahahaha

there he is!

All I know is I saw more flashes with Mahomes in preseason than Watson this year or Wentz last year. The offense needs a spark and he’s it.

Is it all Alex’s fault? No. We just know what we have there and it’s time to move on. I also know Reid’s not doing that unless he gets injured.


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He's been ass in 4 of the last 5 games. It's over and a change needs to be made.

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Well apparently pretty much every NFL QB has been ass for a bunch of games this season because overall Smitty is a top 5 QB stats wise so far this season in pretty much every category.

Using your logic 28 of all of the other 31 NFL QBs should get benched too.

Surely even you can see that Smith's numbers are being buoyed by a strong start to the season, which has now evaporated.

Alex Montana? Did you really say that? More like Hannah Montana.

We didn't just have a bad game. 3 of our last 5 games, Dallas, Pittsburgh, and the giants weren't just bad... They were really bad. And what does bounce back look like? If it's early season Alex Smith, great. But considering he has done that in such a small % of his starts that doesn't seem likely.

Teams have adjusted to him. And there is only so much scheme will do for him. Alex is going back to pump faking his reads, checking down, and isnt extending plays with his legs like he was earlier. And he's completely abandoned his receivers... Again. The concern with everyone here is, we are now experiencing the bounce back. The way Alex has played the last 5 games is pretty close to how he's played the last 5 years except now he doesn't have a defense behind him.

Why don't you go drink some water from the Three Mild Island Nuclear plant so we don't have to listen to your cock gobbling nonsense. Anybody who still thinks that Alex is the answer at quarterback for the Chiefs hasn't been paying attention the last month!

Please get your head out of your ass

Really... as much as we are all cheering for Mahomes, he has never faced live fire in the NFL. Watson has and succeeded against it, and Wentz is no longer a rookie and is quarterbacking the best team in the NFC.

And please stop calling him SMITTY!

Troll post is trolly

It's time. It has to happen at some point. Alex is absolute ASS!!! If they trot his ass out there again, they will lose again to Buffalo. In fact, if Andy does that, I ****IN hope they lose!!! Yeah I ****in said it!!!! WHAT MUTHA****A?!!!!!

Which mult is PAChiefsGuy?

:mad:

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Mahomes is the right move, but not a move that will be made this year

Then Andy should be FIRED!!! I believe we can make a run in the playoffs This year with Mahomes. YEAH I ****ING SAID IT!!!!!

You guys don't even know how far along Mahomes is mentally or if he is even ready yet... Reid is the one who sees him every day in practice. If it was time to start Mahomes Reid would know not some keyboard warriors who are not there every day in practice teaching Mahomes and working on his weaknesses like Reid and our coaches are.

You are a f**king idiot. Yeah lets fire Andy Reid after how he turned this franchise around. Sounds like a great plan.

Watson never faced live fire in the NFL either and he succeeded against it so what makes you think Mahomes will struggle against it? Plus we have an easier schedule coming up with a lot of home games, perfect time to get some NFL experience.

Kelce saying we can’t beat Cover-2 seems like a pretty direct indictment of Alex.

+1

But we do know how far along Alex is mentally and we can see that the demons are dancing in his head again and they are causing him to revert back to the bad Alex! I'd rather unwrap our Ferrari and see how it performs instead of sending our Ford Pinto out there to get rear ended and burst into flames!

If you've been a Chiefs fan for many decades, you:

a) Have reconciled this outcome as it repeats itself over and over
b) Goes far deeper than playing one QB over the other

i do know that it cant be worse then Alex's. Dudes bene in the league 13 years and still has 0 pocket presence. dude still panic's when there is no real danger.

maybe Mahomes isnt 100 percent ready, but Alex has never been either.

Maybe. Posted in another thread.............

We can all see a lack of 100% effort by almost every player on the team. We got eyes, its on tape. Hunt and the coaches can see the tape too. Losing 4-5 with the talent we have playing lesser talent has to kill morale and effort in the locker room.

Players not giving their best effort happens first because of personal reasons. They just are not going to give 100% because of a myriad of reasons.

The major contributor either positive or negative is coaching. Just look at the Rams. Basically the same team. New coach, different effort and results. Its a hard physical game. The players need to buy in to the game plan and who is starting 100% in the NFL.

IMHO, whats going on is that they might like Andy as a coach and or as a person, but..... that a large % of the players dont like the game plan, scheme and/or the personnel starting.

Players told us publicly that they loved Grbac and Cassel. We found out later that was BS. Is this a situation where we have the locker room moving to starting Mahomes?

He also watches film and sees Alex ****ing up a potential SB run. What the **** is Alexis doing that Mahomes can't? HUH?!!!

YES. Again, Kelce has been dropping nuggets raving about Mahomes in practice and the the cover 2 comment. If you can't see that is ALL on the QB then you DON'T KNOW SHIT!!!!!

Robinson says he thinks he knows what the problem is but can't say it? WTF? We know what the **** is going on and I am in no mood for Reid's bullshit or any company line bullshit.

sooo..Kelces a adumbass until he complains about Alex, then he's a genius.


got it.

I'm not an Alex lover, but frankly, he was about the only guy I saw out there yesterday literally throwing himself towards a win. He fought the weather conditions somewhat at times, NYG didn't complete any long bombs either IIRC.

Everyone knows what the problem is, it’s obvious. Notice how the qb isn’t calling anyone out, it’s because he can’t without looking like a dumb shit.

Potential SB run ROFL

It's as subtle as he can be really.

Yeah, that means little.

Remember how Matt Cassel played right after having an appendectomy? The guy tried hard as hell...and he was still terribad.
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47 years worth and counting! :facepalm:

You have no idea if Mahomes is a Ferrari though. You are basically saying Mahomes is going to come in and play like he is an elite QB because obviously Ferrari's are the best of the best.

That's not being realistic. The kid is sitting on the bench for a reason. He needs time to learn certain things and work on his weaknesses more specifically being able to make reads and audibles.

He ran a pretty basic offense in college. Pretty much every draft guru said the Mahomes would benefit greatly from sitting on the bench a year or two. They didn't just say that because Mahomes slept with their wives, there is a lot this kid can learn that.

Now I have no idea how far along he has come with learning mentally the things i mentioned but it takes time. There is nothing wrong with sitting and learning. Aaron Rodgers draft profile was similar to Mahomes and he has said no way would he be as successful as he turned out to be if he started his rookie season.

I also wouldn't want him to come in right now. Our offense besides Smitty is playing just as bad as Alex is. He would not be coming into a great situation and it'd definitely divide the locker room. Smitty is well liked. We do not need a QB controversy. Smith has had a couple bad games yes but every NFL QB has bad games. Overall he is having a good season and to bench him now after what happened to Smith in SF would probably destroy our locker room.

It is a bad idea. Now is not the time for Mahomes to start. Smith plays bad another 3-games and we lose each then yeah make the move but we all know the odds of that happening are slim to none.

I never called Kelce a dumbass and I am not impressed by Alex jumping around because he is scared to throw. Too bad he didn't get knocked out of the game. Sorry, Andy refusing to play the phenom has driven me to there.....

What do we have with Alex? Yeah, laugh now...

No he’s on the bench because Alex can’t muster 1 single TD against a bad defense Smith is blocking him. This franchise is still stupid as **** but I’ll continue to watch because I must like the abuse.

Rant over

1. Says that posters don't know what they're talking about because they aren't in the locker room.

2. Proceeds to throw bullshit out that he knows nothing about.

Go **** yourself.

We don't have one with either. Quit lying to yourself.

Just swapping qbs won't fix shit. This whole team has problems. But go ahead and keep telling yourself that so you can think in your own mind you're right. This entire team is a shit show right now.

ROFL I'm right there with you. This organization has never had a team that is a serious contender for a championship run. Year after year they churn out a mediocre team one right after the other. They have either been dominant on defense and completely inept on offense, or dominant on offense and completely inept on defense. They have never fielded a team that is dominant and balanced on both sides of the ball (though they will occasionally field a team that is completely inept on both sides, which is beginning to look like what we have this year). This organization has never figured it out in terms of getting a legitimate team to make a run.

Alex has played well in 2017 which has put the familiar hate to rest... now, the team has lost 4 of 5 after being the lone undefeated team standing at 5-0.

Flash forward to being 6-4 heading into week 12 and yeah, the reality is back with this team and Alex.

KC has a fairly comfortable lead within the division right now. Need a spark and a glimpse of the future? Start the rookie.

KC has a 2 game lead over OAK and LAC - they beat LAC and lost by 1 to OAK. Start the rookie.

4 of the remaining 6 games are in KC - Bills, @ Jets, Raiders, Chargers, Dolphins, @ Broncos

KC should win most of those games... and advance by winning the division. Slug it out and see what happens with Alex and then hit refresh with the rookie in 2018? Hell, just go for it now.

Mahomes can get us 9 points against the NY midgets. Stop

I stand by the idea that this team lost focus and has lacked passion since the Pittsburgh loss. I believe they saw that game as a nightmare all over again, they saw Alex revert to his old self, and they realized they were headed straight at another playoff disappointment.

They also are seeing the things Mahomes does in practice, like Kelce and DJ have mentioned, and are probably asking themselves 'what if?...' what if we played this kid? Could we finally beat Pittsburgh? Could we finally make enough big plays to go deep in the playoffs?

And it's a completely fair question.

QB controversy? That's funny...

Did you guys miss the last drive of the fourth quarter? Mahommes has NEVER done anything like that. Alex is clearly our best player. I don't want to say it. I don't want it to be true. It just is. Not sure how anyone could deny it?

Yes. Everyone else has dominated us. We lost to a horrible Raider offense. We only beat Denver, the same team the NYG throughly dominated.

You can make a case NYG has been better than us over the last 5 weeks

https://www.pscp.tv/geoffschwartz/1ynJOozEMQqJR?t=314


Geoff Schwartz says Mahomes isn't ready.

That's nice. Who gives a shit?

Well, maybe he knows a little more than most of us since he played in the league and his brother is currently playing for the Chiefs.

How do you know he couldn't do that? Do you really think Watson is that much better than Mahomes? How could you be sure?

Schwartz is getting more and more annoying by the week... maybe he isn't ready. But Alex clearly wasn't f**king ready either yesterday.

Well damn, I guess that just squashes it all. After all, Geoff Schwartz is THE foremost authority on the readiness level of QBs.
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I know I am right. Change QBs and the whole team is erected. You will see

Yeah, That impressive, Cassel like field goal drive. That same drive where we had to waste our last time out because Alex took a 5 yard run instead of throwing the ****ing ball away and taking another shot at the endzone.

Alex is a cuck.

You are a cuck.

I hope Mahomes ****s both of your wives, no condom.

Again, that's nice.

But I'll take raw over old and rotten any day. Smith is a ****ing cancer. Mahomes is the cure.

That run at the end of the game is classic Alex. Thinks he feels pressure, eyes down, remembers it's risky to try to win.

Takes the FG instead.

I'm sure a lot of the players realize Smith blows and Mahomes gives us a better chance going forward. But they're still all playing for their own careers first and foremost. Multi-million dollar contracts on the line. I doubt they're gonna purposely shit the bed because Alex Smith can only throw 32 yards.

I get it though. Surely must be frustrating to be part of this offense. Plenty of times the line blocked their asses off and gave him adequate time only for him to get happy feet and piss the play away. Or for a WR or TE to streak downfield wide open for the 80th time this season.

What does Mike Goff or Jordan Black think?

C.J. Beathard against that same Giants team.

19-25, 288 yards, 2 TDs and 1 INT.

****ing C.J. Beathard. Let that sink in.

It's easy to do when you have better weapons around you.

You strike me as a person who gets really excited about eating a bag of prunes.

I know how many times could you count 1234 while he dropped back. Give any other qb that amount of time and he would carve up a defense.

Only thing that will be erected is you (and some others)

and the team, and the rest of the fan base who has a ****ing clue.

Look ALL around the league and you see career backups and scrubs doing more than Alex. And we're talking bad teams with bad receivers and o-lines. With bad coaches. Playing for nothing.

This offense SUCKS.