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RunKC 12-07-2017 08:10 PM

John Dorsey agrees to become Browns GM
 
Adam schefter

TLO 12-07-2017 08:14 PM

Good luck

Red Dawg 12-07-2017 08:14 PM

Oh Lord. Here we go.

SAUTO 12-07-2017 08:15 PM

Awesome.

DaneMcCloud 12-07-2017 08:15 PM

They hired Mike Holmgren and it ended in disaster.

Four GM’s in 5 years.

Good luck

LMAO

SAUTO 12-07-2017 08:16 PM

Unless we trade him pat. Then **** everything

chiefforlife 12-07-2017 08:16 PM

All those picks and all that money, WOW this will be fun to watch...

TribalElder 12-07-2017 08:16 PM

Good for him!

Don't hate because we have the clarks

Browns make it to a Super Bowl before KC does LMAO

SAUTO 12-07-2017 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 13268496)
All those picks and all that money, WOW this will be fun to watch...

Agreed

Hog's Gone Fishin 12-07-2017 08:18 PM

Good , now we have a trade partner .

The Franchise 12-07-2017 08:20 PM

I’ll take your 2nd round pick for Alex. You need to stabilize that’s QB position.

RealSNR 12-07-2017 08:20 PM

Take Tanoh Kpassagnon and the rest of the hulked up track and field athletes who don't know how to ****ing play football.

The Bad Guy 12-07-2017 08:20 PM

Happy for him. He has a ton of picks and a load of cap space (that I'm sure he'll blow in 2 years).

If he gets them competitive, he'll be a hero.

I think it's a good job and the best one he could have taken.

KChiefs1 12-07-2017 08:20 PM

Good for him.

The Bad Guy 12-07-2017 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13268507)
I hope he trades for most of the this shitty team he assembled.

We keep Mahomes, Kelce, half the OL, our RBs, WRs, Berry, Houston, RNR, and Chris Jones. He can ****ing have the rest of the goddamn lot.

He can take Dr. Larry and his shitty contract. He's sucked bad this year.

KChiefs1 12-07-2017 08:22 PM

He will be great on picking up leftover from other teams & since he gets first choice he will get the guys he wants.

prhom 12-07-2017 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13268506)
I’ll take your 2nd round pick for Alex. You need to stabilize that’s QB position.

Please let us trade Smith to the Browns! Wonder if he’ll draft a QB and expect him to start right away or protect them the way we protected Mahomes? I don’t know if that’s more the coach’s call or the GM’s call.

tk13 12-07-2017 08:24 PM

There might not be a bigger challenge in sports than that job.

Pasta Little Brioni 12-07-2017 08:24 PM

Lulz

ChiefsCountry 12-07-2017 08:24 PM

Overrated GM who was made to look good by Andy Reid's coaching.

Red Dawg 12-07-2017 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 13268496)
All those picks and all that money, WOW this will be fun to watch...

He will get Smith and ignore drafting a QB.

Quesadilla Joe 12-07-2017 08:25 PM

John Dorsey will be a God in Cleveland if he turns them into a winner.

Bwana 12-07-2017 08:26 PM

As shitty as things can get being a Chiefs fan, it could be worse.

Red Dawg 12-07-2017 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 13268522)
Overrated GM who was made to look good by Andy Reid's coaching.

Dorsey sure left the DBs a mess here. LB as well.

Red Dawg 12-07-2017 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bwana (Post 13268528)
As shitty as things can get being a Chiefs fan, it could be worse.

Worse than no titles in 50 years. I guess it could be 51 years.

RealSNR 12-07-2017 08:28 PM

Over/under 7 waiver wire additions the Browns will make between the last preseason game and Week 1 of the regular season.

Remember, the Browns likely have the #1 overall pick, just like the Chiefs in 2013, so they get first crack at anybody and everybody they want.

I'm going to take the over.

ILChief 12-07-2017 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 13268532)
Dorsey sure left the DBs a mess here. LB as well.

Remember when Ron Parker was decent. Has he made a play all year?

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-07-2017 08:29 PM

He's a scout, and no more than a decent one at that. He butchered almost every contract negotiation that mattered either by time, value, or both.

Bwana 12-07-2017 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 13268536)
Worse than no titles in 50 years. I guess it could be 51 years.

Yes, worse.

CaliforniaChief 12-07-2017 08:31 PM

All that cap space...it's gonna be like the alcoholic coming off the wagon with a vengeance.

DaneMcCloud 12-07-2017 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 13268541)
He's a scout, and no more than a decent one at that. He butchered almost every contract negotiation that mattered either by time, value, or both.

He built this 6-6 roster, which would have been far, far worse had Veach not traded for Ragland and KPL in addition to signing Butker off the Panthers PS.

Dorsey is a myth and has never won anything.

5 years after he took over, the roster has holes everywhere, while he simultaneously handed out too many huge contracts to guys beyond their prime.

srvy 12-07-2017 08:34 PM

Will he pluck Dave Toub from us for his Head Coach.

DaneMcCloud 12-07-2017 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srvy (Post 13268550)
Will he pluck Dave Toub from us for his Head Coach.

Haslam has stated that Hue is their 2018 coach.

He’s not their problem.

The Chiefs Special Teams have sucked this year.

Buns 12-07-2017 08:41 PM

I thought he had the big job lined up in Green Bay? Guess not!

Titty Meat 12-07-2017 08:41 PM

Great hire. Browns will be better than us in 2 years.

thegame214 12-07-2017 08:42 PM

Alex Smith to the Browns! Book it!

thegame214 12-07-2017 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scooter Libby (Post 13268563)
Great hire. Browns will be better than us in 2 years.

Lmao nah

thegame214 12-07-2017 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srvy (Post 13268550)
Will he pluck Dave Toub from us for his Head Coach.

All those special teams touchdowns this year will be missed

prhom 12-07-2017 08:45 PM

First order of business will be giving Josh Gordon a 6 yr contract with lots of guaranteed money before the season is over.

O.city 12-07-2017 08:46 PM

The special teams tds and or lack thereof have hurt this year,


This years team hasn’t been that much different than last years, they just haven’t won the close games this year.

Last year in Denver, home vs sd, the falcons, the panthers and the jags were all games they luckily won

bevischief 12-07-2017 08:49 PM

:cuss::banghead:

pugsnotdrugs19 12-07-2017 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13268549)
He built this 6-6 roster, which would have been far, far worse had Veach not traded for Ragland and KPL in addition to signing Butker off the Panthers PS.

Dorsey is a myth and has never won anything.

5 years after he took over, the roster has holes everywhere, while he simultaneously handed out too many huge contracts to guys beyond their prime.

I don't think it gets talked about enough just how much talent Dorsey inherited here. Mostly because everyone hated Pioli so much.

Think about the players that were already here and how much they had to do with our success since '13. Reid had a far bigger impact on the team finally tapping into their potential.

Iowanian 12-07-2017 08:58 PM

And now my early predictions n of alex smith to the Browns......will happen.

Send them peters too....the chiefsificarion of th browns.

Hog's Gone Fishin 12-07-2017 08:58 PM

Just be happy he didn't go to the Broncos or Raiders. As bad as you guys say he sucks you have to admit we drafted some really good players in his time. Our team got legit.

It will be fun to watch what he can accomplish in Cleveland. That place is a death pool.

Johnny football even said "**** THAT"

thegame214 12-07-2017 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13268586)
I don't think it gets talked about enough just how much talent Dorsey inherited here. Mostly because everyone hated Pioli so much.

Think about the players that were already here and how much they had to do with our success since '13. Reid had a far bigger impact on the team finally tapping into their potential.

Well said.

Considering Mahomes coach said he never spoke with Dorsey once, only to Andy further cements to me Andys in charge here.

thegame214 12-07-2017 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 13268593)
Just be happy he didn't go to the Broncos or Raiders. As bad as you guys say he sucks you have to admit we drafted some really good players in his time. Our team got legit.

It will be fun to watch what he can accomplish in Cleveland. That place is a death pool.

Johnny football even said "**** THAT"

Ehhhh. He tried to trade and get Paxton Lynch. He's good scout, but Hali's contract is embarrassing.

Red Dawg 12-07-2017 09:09 PM

Ford bust. Peter's is a nut job as will not be here in the near future. I will openly thank him for Hunt and Mahomes for certain. Fish is also not good but nobody was that year. He messed up our cap every single year and that is one reason for the shit show we have now. Browns can have him.

WhawhaWhat 12-07-2017 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thegame214 (Post 13268600)
Ehhhh. He tried to trade and get Paxton Lynch. He's good scout, but Hali's contract is embarrassing.

Cutting Hali, eating the dead money and then re-signing Hali was the dumbest thing I'd ever seen.

Red Dawg 12-07-2017 09:28 PM

It was extremely stupid.

BigCatDaddy 12-07-2017 09:36 PM

ASS11 as a Brown will be glorious for him and his cult followers

Marcellus 12-07-2017 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 13268655)
ASS11 as a Brown will be glorious for him and his cult followers

Yes!

SuperBowl4 12-07-2017 09:46 PM

POE to Cleveland via free agency

SAUTO 12-07-2017 09:54 PM

:spock:
Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperBowl4 (Post 13268677)
POE to Cleveland via free agency


New World Order 12-07-2017 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 13268655)
ASS11 as a Brown will be glorious for him and his cult followers

I can't wait for Tiger and co. to invade the Browns' forums.

MMXcalibur 12-07-2017 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 13268695)
I can't wait for Tiger and co. to invade the Browns' forums.

Those poor Browns fans have been through enough...

Buehler445 12-07-2017 10:00 PM

Good for him. Seems like a decent human. Did some good for the Chiefs after the Pioli disaster.

But honestly, may god have mercy on his soul.

Buehler445 12-07-2017 10:02 PM

And L-O-Mother****ing -L at the whole smarter-than-you/Sabermetrics disaster.

HemiEd 12-07-2017 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperBowl4 (Post 13268677)
POE to Cleveland via free agency

I am pretty sure that Dontari was picked by the Chiefs under Pioli, not Dorsey. Poe is playing with the Falcons and that is where Pioli was last time I checked.

Why to Cleveland?

chiefzilla1501 12-07-2017 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 13268496)
All those picks and all that money, WOW this will be fun to watch...

Was thinking the same thing. In kc, he had the #1 pick in a shitty draft class. Otherwise a modest cap and a pretty average haul of draft picks considering we gave up 2 seconds for Alex Smith. Which leads to an interesting question... Maybe this gets us an Alex Smith trade partner. Smith would be exactly what Cleveland needs right now.

New World Order 12-07-2017 10:13 PM

Why wouldn't Dorsey trade for Alex?

Bring some stability to the quarterback situation as he drafts and then develops his guy (if he does select a quarterback, of course).

chiefzilla1501 12-07-2017 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 13268722)
Why wouldn't Dorsey trade for Alex?

Bring some stability to the quarterback situation as he drafts and then develops his guy (if he does select a quarterback, of course).

Agreed. The browns don't need a championship right now. They need to rebuild confidence to the fan base and they need players to not hate playing there. Gregg Williams will build a good defense. The browns have a solid running game, a hof left tackle, and really top notch talent at te and RB. Good enough for Alex to game manage into a playoff spot where he'll ultimately shit his pants. But for the browns, that's a huge win for them.

Fish 12-07-2017 10:20 PM

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20121205194057

Ming the Merciless 12-07-2017 10:23 PM

hahaha

guess we know where smith is headed

KCrockaholic 12-07-2017 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 13268742)
hahaha

guess we know where smith is headed

I hope. But I feel like Alex is more of Andy's boy than Johns.

ForeverChiefs58 12-07-2017 10:31 PM

Trade them Alex Smith for a pick and Josh Gordon

Fish 12-07-2017 10:36 PM

And Cleveland becomes the final destination for future Chiefs reject castoffs....

T-post Tom 12-07-2017 10:50 PM

Will hurt feels keep Dorsey from dealing with the Chiefs? Hope not. Joe Thomas' contract is up after 2018. He's 33 & was still one of the best LTs prior to a triceps injury that ended his season in wk 7. Should be fully recovered before next training camp. (Prior to that, he held the longest streak of consecutive plays in NFL history.) Will make about $2.5M less than Eric Fisher (26 yrs old) in 2018. Bring him in and move Fisher to G? If you can be a team leader in CLE, you can be a team leader anywhere. Probably smartest and best technician at LT in the NFL. He could really raise the level of the OLine. Reuniting him with Schwartz would give us one of the best set of bookends in the NFL. If only for a season or two. Good way to keep Mahomes on his feet in his inaugural season as a starter. Just a random thought.... BTW, Fisher becomes expendable from a salary cap position after 2018, if that matters.

Quesadilla Joe 12-07-2017 10:52 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One more note on new <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Browns?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Browns</a> GM John Dorsey: he has control over the roster in his contract, sources tell <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RapSheet</a> and me. (Andy Reid had it in KC.) He&#39;ll run the draft, free agency, etc. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FootballGuy?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FootballGuy</a> making football decisions.</p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/938993107579703297?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 8, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

RunKC 12-07-2017 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 13268794)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One more note on new <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Browns?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Browns</a> GM John Dorsey: he has control over the roster in his contract, sources tell <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RapSheet</a> and me. (Andy Reid had it in KC.) He&#39;ll run the draft, free agency, etc. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FootballGuy?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FootballGuy</a> making football decisions.</p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/938993107579703297?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 8, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

No ****ing shit. We knew that like 3 years ago.

SuperBowl4 12-07-2017 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 13268715)
I am pretty sure that Dontari was picked by the Chiefs under Pioli, not Dorsey. Poe is playing with the Falcons and that is where Pioli was last time I checked.

Why to Cleveland?

Because he is a stud and has only a one year deal in Atlanta. Cleveland could use him long term. The Chiefs should have signed him long term!

T-post Tom 12-07-2017 11:24 PM

Head of Fritz Pollard Alliance “livid” over Browns G.M. hire
 
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Goodell just earned his new paycheck.

John Wooten, the executive director of the Fritz Pollard Alliance, rarely takes issue with arguably questionable efforts by NFL teams to comply with the letter and spirit of the Rooney Rule. With respect to Cleveland’s bang-bang hiring of G.M. John Dorsey, on the same day executive V.P. of football operations Sashi Brown was fired, Wooten isn’t happy.

“I think John Dorsey is a very top quality G.M.,” Wooten told Jarrett Bell of USA Today. “I am livid that the Browns would totally ignore the work all of us to make the Rooney Rule meaningful.”

The Browns contend that they complied with the Rooney Rule. Like the Chiefs earlier this year, however, the Browns have declined to disclose how and when they complied. Based on a separate statement that Wooten gave to ESPN, it appears that the Browns did not comply by interviewing one of the recommended minority candidates.

Some have suggested that the Browns complied via a vague interview of former 49ers coach Mike Singletary, which occurred in recent weeks. But how could Singletary be regarded as a viable candidate to be a General Manager? He got into coaching more than a decade after his playing career ended, and he has never worked as a scout. The notion that he’d instantly be qualified to be a G.M. is nearly as laughable as someone buying a team and making himself the G.M. (which has been done, amazingly).

It’s also unclear whether the Browns complied with the Rooney Rule by interviewing minority candidates before Brown was fired. Washington pulled that move when hiring Mike Shanahan to replace Jim Zorn, interviewing then-assistant Jerry Gray before actually firing Zorn. The league regarded that ruse as sufficient compliance with the Rooney Rule.

Yes, the Browns have a minority head coach and had, until today, a minority executive who ran the entire football operation. But there’s no exception to the Rooney Rule based on past hires; as to coaching, G.M., and other high-level jobs, at least one minority candidate must be interviewed.

Even if the Browns found a way to clumsily check the box, the spirit of the rule apparently was ignored. And it’s likely that the league, based on an established lack of diligence and transparency in matters of this nature, will not be inclined to find that a violation occurred.

The fact that the league will give the Browns a pass doesn’t mean Wooten, the media, or anyone else should. If a rule on the books isn’t going to be respected, the rule should be scrapped. And in the same year that the man for whom the rule was named died, it would be nice to see teams go out of their way to honor the rule — especially when the team in question is currently owned by someone who previously owned a significant chunk of the Steelers.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/12/08/head-of-fritz-pollard-alliance-livid-over-browns-g-m-hire/

Simply Red 12-07-2017 11:27 PM

Laugh all you want, quietly the Browns have been building a legit roster.

threebag 12-07-2017 11:54 PM

Could you imagine Mahomes to Gordon the Dawg Pound would go wild on Sundays

cooper barrett 12-08-2017 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13268506)
I’ll take your 2nd round pick for Alex. You need to stabilize that’s QB position.

More like "Jacksonville was your only taker and they don't want him, I'll give you a fourth, a high fourth, but conditionally."

BlackOp 12-08-2017 02:32 AM

Adam: Given the peculiar timing of your firing in KC....can you shed some light on what happened?

Dorsey: Sure...I was informed I would have to ensure that the Raiders and Chargers have a competitive season. I refused and the rest is history...

I mean I'm an ex-player and we put too much time in to just to let an owner dictate when and where we can win a game.

Adam: Can you quantify how the Chiefs have had such terrible luck in the post-season.

Dorsey: Well, you see, the owners dont really care about winning. They never have. KC, due to their small market, was designated as a fulcrum team. They merely exist in order to shape standings...much like the Detroit.. They are merely

Hog's Gone Fishin 12-08-2017 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58 (Post 13268759)
Trade them Alex Smith for a pick and Josh Gordon

Gordon could be a real asset. Especially in the locker room, if he could get Peters a little weed and mellow him out.

Hog's Gone Fishin 12-08-2017 06:03 AM

Browns now officially over the cap

Eleazar 12-08-2017 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 13268794)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One more note on new <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Browns?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Browns</a> GM John Dorsey: he has control over the roster in his contract, sources tell <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RapSheet</a> and me. (Andy Reid had it in KC.) He&#39;ll run the draft, free agency, etc. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FootballGuy?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FootballGuy</a> making football decisions.</p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/938993107579703297?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 8, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

b-b-b-but Dorsey will want Alex Smith!

thegame214 12-08-2017 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 13268848)
Laugh all you want, quietly the Browns have been building a legit roster.

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media...bbgsbq7eyj.jpg

MahomesMagic 12-08-2017 06:15 AM

Let's say they take Rosen.

Rosen, Coleman, Gordon, Duke, Njoku would be a real life video game.


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