Remaining Playoff Teams Defensive Rankings
 

Vikings

Total Yds - #1
Pass Yds - #2
Rush Yds - #2
Ppg - #1

Eagles

Total Yds - #4
Pass Yds - #17
Rush Yds - #1
Ppg #4

Jags

Total Yds - #2
Pass Yds - #1
Rush Yds - #21
Ppg #2

Pats

Total Yds - #29
Pass Yds - #30
Rush Yds - #20
Ppg - #5

Starting QBs - Brady, Keenum, Bortles, Foles.

I know most of you morons on here think football is a one-on-one sport and QB is the only position that matters but clearly that is not the case. Defense still is very important. Always has been that way and always will be. You can have the GOAT QB but w a trash defense the odds of winning the SB are slim to none.

Even the Pats have the #5 defense as far as ppg and pretty much all their SB winning teams had a top defense. Anyone who minimizes the importance of a good defense doesn't understand football.

Chiefs Defense:

Total yards - #28
Pass yards - #29
Rush yards - #25
PPG - #15


Chiefs offense:

Total Yards - #5
Passing Yards - #7
Rushing Yards - #9
PPG - #6

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL finally - :deevee:

Who has the better defense playing in Philly ? Philly or the Vikes?? Vikes have the better overall defense but playing in Philly I think evens it out.

Although Keenum is playing far better than Foles right now, going into Philly I think evens both QBs out as well.

This will be a tough game to call who wins.




Bellichek will take Fournette away and finally expose Bartles for who he is and I see the Pats winning comfortably. Just like he did Tennessee the week before.

Remember when the Chiefs had a top 10 defense three years in a row?

Shit they didn't even make the playoffs one of those years.

LMAO

How'd they do? They win a lot of playoff games with those awesome defenses?

No?

Wonder why.

Wow, the Patriots must have gotten a lot of lucky officiating call to have such a bad defense and still rank top five in points.

Opponent holding penalties...

My post wasn't to say that defense is all that matters. It's a team game. It's very hard to win a SB with just a great defense or just a great offense. But the notion that the QB/offense is all that matters in football is false and this season is another season that proves that.

It is a shame our defenses in the 90s never got a SB. They were special.

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"Shut the **** up, Squirrel Tits."

Wonder how the presence of Berry would have changed things this season... man, that guy is a crucial piece.

Dude, of course you are correct and most all NFL people recognize that D wins SB's but that doesn't matter around here.

They want to be right, that's all, to shout down other posters who don't think just like they do (they are pro's you know). Its nice and easy/lazy to blame Alex for all our problems but boy they told us so. Never mind that most of those same idiots wanted Geno or the like over the years.

But get ready for next year cause all of sudden the arguments you've been making like "its a team game" and "defense wins", etc. will be all the rage around here. No longer will the qb be to blame as they have announced that Pat is the savior and nothing will or can be his fault. Sad really, to put that much on him and I hope he succeeds but it will definitely be a much different standard/excuses.

Could you possibly be a bigger ass****?

Really nothing to offer so why even bother?

Doesn't you mother monitor your computer time?

... and there it is... yet another playoff run without their top paid defenders on the field to contribute. Or if they do dress, they are hobbling around and near useless.

Chiefs have a pretty rigid equation for winning in place. Why? because they are not adept at making good coaching adjustments away from specifically what they know to do. So when their best and brightest go MIA? they are ****ed.

... and yet still have had their close chances. Thanks, Dwayne Bowe and Albert Wilson / Orson Charles... and thanks OL for your pussy play that leads to a 3.8 ypc run game.

Still, been time to move it along. What's done is done. Maybe next year can FINALLY be the year where the high priced talent is actually healthy and contributing. Maybe they find some nasty up front on the OL. If lucky enough to get to the playoffs, maybe then Mahomie won't be required to carry them.

Nothing to offer?!?! Well that's absurd!!! I offered a thought about Eric Berry that went through my head that I considered to be original, uncommon and TOTALLY enlightening!!! Eric Berry is a guy on the Chiefs, in case you don't know...he plays Safety!!! I know you Alexsexuals have a tough time catching on to the names of other players on the team!!!

And yes, my mother does monitor my computer time...she says you are a douchebag and she is disappointed in me for not acting like a bigger ass**** towards you!!!!

Albert Wilson had no trouble playing with Mahomes's balls... I'm telling ya...some of Alex's balls are wobbly and hard to catch!!!

But let's not turn this into another Alex thread, weasel dick!!! People are actually in here talking about actual other members of the team who play defense.

And every team has to deal with injuries, dipshit.

Bono, grbac. Nuff said. Smiff has to go, quit trying to absolve hI'm of his lack of skills and balls

Yeah no one has been saying that.

Only that our QB has never been good enough to get the team over the hump in the playoffs.

Almost every ****ing season has proved that for this team.

Has it been the defense? Sometimes, but not often enough that I truly give a **** given the Bonos, Grbacs, Cassels and Smittys of the world.

So you can just **** right off with this thread.

One great misunderstanding seems to be that because someone says the qb is the most important position it means it's all that matters. That was never the point. Sure a few say that but not most.

In the end this year it would be nice if the team with the best qb doesn't win, but that seems the most likely result.

Jags defense gave up 42 points yesterday. They won because their QB made baller play after baller play to keep them ahead.

The Vikings defense squandered a 17 point lead. They won because their offense made a miraculous play in the clutch.

This defense has bailed out the offense on numerous occasions over the past few seasons and rarely can the offense reciprocate.

How many one-score games did we lose this season because Alex failed to orchestrate a do-or-die scoring drive?

... and the Chiefs' players had their chances to make baller plays in the clutch.

They just dropped the ball... or didn't remember to stab the second foot in bounds. Oooops.

Had Diggs dropped the ball as a Chief receiver would have.... no celebration or glory for Kennum. No moving forward. No miracle. No clutch playoff QB moniker.

The Vikings' receiver did... what the Chiefs' receiver(s)... could not. Shocker!

The Vikings and jags offenses did bail out their defenses that did or almost did blow leads.

Don’t let this distract you from the fact that Alex turned into a fetal vagina and tried immediately running on 3rd and 13 and 3rd and 9 at the end of the game.

Both were indeed poor decisions. That is not lost on me. QBs throughout each game will make several poor decisions. They will also try to make other plays... and he did that too. He was a big part of why we had a big lead. He was also a part of giving us the few chances to get back the final potential lead.

Albert W makes the catch, and Smith is suddenly the hero. Dwayne Bowe stabs foot in bounds, same deal.

Make the plays. He offered them.

I hope you off yourself when Smith is traded.

Nothing posted here will convince me that it is NOT time to move on from smiff.

It is definitely time to move on from Alex Smith. I agree with that 100%. Due to our salary cap and Mahomes it is a no brainer.

This thread wasn't about Smitty. It's about our defense needing to improve in order for Mahomes to be successful when it comes to wins and losses but you guys are so obsessed with the Alex Smith hate of course it looks like this will turn into another Alex Smith thread. Gee what a surprise.

Hey that's not nice. But hey moron, I WANT Alex Smith to get traded. I think it is time to move on and we need the money. However unlike you Alex Smith haters I appreciate what he has done here. He helped get the Chiefs back to being a playoff team. No easy task considering the shit show this team has been for years before he/Reid got here.

That's because we know that this I what the thread is about on the low

Really? Because I could have sworn this team lost games when the opponent scored 19, 19, 12, 16, 16, 17, 17, 18 and 18 points the last three years. And still made the playoffs.

Then there was the games we lost in 2014 to teams that scored 20 and 17 points, preventing us from making the playoffs.

WOW! If Pat can overcome that he is truly a hall of ****ing famer!

He might actually even put up 24 points in a playoff game, which would be good for a 3-1 record the past three seasons, which would be more playoff wins than the Chiefs had had the previous 20 years, but I don't want to get too hasty now. That's a lot of points!

ROFL

I'm not trying to talk about Alex Smith or Mahomes I'm trying to talk about defense you ****ing obsessed idiot.

Wow. Some of you really don't have a life. Just the idea that these threads are started as a way of deflecting from Smith's shortcomings is pathetic. It's so obvious what the motive is.

The Alex Smith cult following can point to every team deficiency they want but it doesn't change the fact that other quarterbacks overcome that which Alex Smith cannot. There are plenty of quarterbacks in the league that would have taken the chiefs farther than Smith did. Mahomes is most definitely one of them.

I have always appreciated what Alex has done to help lift this franchise out of the gutter but you guys are making it unbearable to even appreciate that. It doesn't seem like you will ever get it. It's not about what Alex is, it's about what he isn't. Please quit sucking his cock and move on.

This lil tough guy chiefy will go to the greatest lengths to defend his boy toy smitty

We know what you're talking about. Wear the avatar proudly, it suits you.

It's a quarterback league and an offensive league. And for the most part, that's what you're going to get in the playoffs. So, it makes sense that other things like defense and special teams come into play in the playoffs and will often be viewed as the deciding factor by idiots with an agenda.

If you don't have an elite defense then you'd better have an elite QB or vice versa.

Why the Alex Smith hate?

Your avatar is disgraceful you butt****ing moron.

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The Jags D set the tone early which was important..the Steelers offense is going to get theirs, and once they started scoring, the Jags offense didn't let them get back into it. The Chiefs jump out ahead..once one thing goes wrong it's downhill from their. That's not being mentally tough..that's coaching

Um... I know.

That’s what I said.

That's just one extreme to the next. No.

You can win SBs with merely good QBs... but your D better not be bottom tier, and players have to step up to make plays.

Russell Wilson... Flacco (lol)... Eli Manning... even his bro Peyton was shit the year he won the SB...

Aaron Rodgers (yes elite) only one 1 long ago, and he needed a trio of elite WRs and an elite D to do it.

Brees (yes was elite) could only do it once, and it was when he had the #1 takeaway defense.


The better the QB, the better your chances. duh.. derp. Yes, obviously.

KC doesn't have the elite QB.. no one said they did. They had (have) a very good one.

Sadly, breakdowns... (often in the form of injured players) all over... have plagued the team. Drops, officiating... the Chiefs... CHIEFS... NOT JUST SMITH... have been horribly unlucky and un-clutch in the playoffs. It sucks, but it is what it is.

Remaining Playoff Teams Defensive Rankings
 

That’s exactly what the Chiefs defense did.

Two games, two very similar tales, but totally different outcome because one team’s QB is a pussy bitch and the other is capable of making more than one read.

Wilson, Flacco, and Eli were all great in the playoffs when they won SBs. Flacco and Eli in particular were extremely clutch.

Rodgers made those receivers look better than they truly are, and if you don't agree see what happened to Greg Jennings when he signed with the Vikings.

You aren't wrong, you aren't going to win with a bottom tier defense no matter what... but you don't have to have a top 5 or even 10 unit if the QB is the real deal. You also aren't winning it all with a merely good QB if the defense isn't elite. Even then, that typically isn't enough to finish the job.

They were great because someone was coming down with their passes.

Funny how that works.

Joe Flacco put up 24, 38, 28 and 34 points to win the Super Bowl.

Alex has put up 23, 20, 16 and 21 in his last four playoff games.

Smitty fail.

As for playing with an elite defense...which the Chiefs absolutely had in 2014...Alex couldn't even get INTO the playoffs with that defense.

Or you know...his whole 2011 NFC Championship game shit-show performance in which he couldn't convert a third down to save his ass.

Smitty fail.

That 2011 Niners defense was by far the best in football. It's a shame they never got their ring..

Or, were they great because they had the sack to make the throws? :hmmm:

I can promise you one thing off the top of my head. There's no way Smith makes the throw to Jacoby Jones to win in Denver that Flacco did, and there's no way he makes the throw to Manningham on the GWD that Manning beat the Patriots with.

Vikes D probably better from top to bottom but the single biggest mismatch in this game is Fletcher Cox vs a very pedestrian Vikes O line. Total is 38. I won't be surprised if it doesn't hit 20 during the actual game.

Patriots have absolutely ZERO talent in their front 7. 5th in points and EIGHT sacks against a Titan team we couldn't sniff. It's ****ing stupid.

Lol lol lol lol lol... Bortles made baller play after baller play? 200 yards 1td says enough but I’ll entertain you.

Up by 7. Bortles throws a underthrown bomb to his wr, that the wr had to stop, and turn around just to grab it and then gets immediately tackled. Complete 50:50 ball that was 40 yards. Bortles then throws a check down, to yeldon, and yeldon breaks it for a 45 yard gain. One shit underthrown ball that cp said was Bortles, having a killer instinct. Then his check down to yeldon, cp claimed was a thing of beauty because he went through his progressions and then checked it down, he’s a master cp said. 2 shit plays for half his yardage of the game. Also his one td pass came from a play action pass, that fooled the entire defense because fournette was making the d his bitch all day long, so it was a wide open td pass.

There was not one thing “clutch” about Bortles” performance, nor anything about his 80 yard passing performance the week before that. I’f you can’t see that, then you are just as reeruned as the cp poster who after Big Ben lateraled in the same game past the line of scrimmage posts in the game day thread “ there should be a flag, he was past the line of scrimmage”

If I remember right, Eli was going 3 and out just as often, but he was bailed out by a special teams fumble from Kyle Williams. Guess that’s how it works sometimes even for multi winning super bowl quarterbacks... Eli gets bailed out by a special teams fumble. Brady a few years back, gets another ring gifted to him from his defense intercepting on the 3 yard line vs seattle...

There’s a lot more to these football games and the winners than you portray.

How about last year when we were getting tons of turnovers? And Alice threw 15 td’s?

You guys ever consider donating just a portion of your energy to fossil fuel independence?

Clay:

He dead.

You can stop killing him now.

It’s over.

For reals.

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NOTHING IS OVER!

NOTHING!

You just don't turn it off! It wasn't my QB! You asked me I didn't ask you, and I did what I had to do to win, but somebody wouldn't let us win!

Then I come back to the forum, and I see all those maggots in the Romper Room, protestin' me and trollin', callin' me Smitty killer and all kinds of vile crap!

Who are they to protest me?! Huh?! Who are they?! Unless they been me and been there and know what the hell they yellin' about!

OROFL

I agree..like I said, with the Chiefs however, when their D starts out strong, as soon as they finally give up a score, it's just downhill..the top comes off the D for the rest of the game and the offense can't put it away. It's a mentally weak team and that's on coaching as well as the players

That Jax-pit defensive struggle was for the ages.

Are you agreeing with me or what? Because that's exactly the point I'm trying to make.

Up 7 in the 4th quarter Alex doesn't even attempt that 40 yard bomb and he isn't likely to hit Yeldon in stride with such a beautiful pass.

Smith's career playoffs: 61%, QB rating 97, 2.1 TD's per game, 0.3 INT's per game, 278 yards per game

Flacco's career playoffs: 56%, QB rating 89, 1.6 TD's per game, .66 INT's per game, 215 yards per game



Facts. Not Fiction.

Individual stats can suck my fat cock, ****tard.

Alex Smith can't put up points in the playoffs.

What's why he's a ****ING LOSER.

And he's going to prove it next season on whatever team he goes to.

Pretty sure you spent all last season harping about how Smith couldn't score TD's or put up 4000 yards.

Funny how the narrative changes when he achieves it and gets the TOP QB rating in the league, most deep ball TD's, etc.

You lost the bet and you're butt hurt. Please keep embarrassing yourself, I beg you.

After a brilliant season (13-3), the 49ers historic defense could not get the job done when it counted the most - Read the 2011/2012 S.F. 49ers Defense Review at the bottom of the post:

2011/2012 NFC Championship NY Giants vs. SF 49ers

The 2011 NFL 49ers defense is one of the toughest defenses I have ever seen.

Vic Fangio’s defense consisted of 'four Pro Bowlers (Aldon Smith, Patrick Willis, Dashon Goldson, and Carlos Rogers) and three All-Pros (Willis, Smith, and NaVorro Bowman).' As a result, the unit played to historic heights tying and breaking records not only in franchise history but also NFL history.

2011/2012 NFC Championship Giants vs. 49ers is ranked as one of the top 25 NFL games of all time. In addition, Eli Manning is ranked as one of the toughest quarterbacks in the NFL.

Facing one of the toughest defenses, Eli was hit 20, knocked down 12, sacked 6, somehow avoiding injury.




A great funny article saved: QB Lead New York Giants to Superbowl XLVI

San Francisco Defensive Year in Review

http://www.49ers.com/news/article-2/...2-2661b147316a

Star Ledger / Record: Beating by 49ers can’t keep Manning from Indianapolis

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/201...4/elis-coming/

You're right, I did. Why? Because his lack of passing success held the team back. And it proved to be our undoing in the postseason.

The narrative never changed you butt ****ING moron. It was always "be good enough to win playoff games."

Smith put up pretty numbers and got this team to 9-7, completely ****ing failing in the second half of that playoff game to live up to the big sexy stats you stroked off to all year.

So what ****ing good are they?

They're as useless as the 4,000 yards and 28 TDs Elvis Grbac put up in 2000.

We've lived this shit before. You still don't get it.

But at least we're finally getting what we want:

A CHIEFS FOOTBALL TEAM NOT QUARTERBACKED BY YOUR ****ING CUCK

So, for what will surely not be the last time: PLEASE **** OFF.

I am sure members do not remember the 2011/2012 NFC Championship NY Giants vs. SF 49ers.

In the first quarter, first drive, second play, Alex Smith threw a beautiful 73-yard TD pass to Vernon Davis, TD. Smith is capable of throwing a long ball, however, most of the time it stops from there.

Here are Smith's passing stats for the NFC Championship game vs. NY Giants in 2012.

San Francisco Passing
A. Smith, 12-26, 196 YDS, 2 TD, 0 INT, 3-18 SACKS

San Francisco Rushing
F. Gore, 16 CAR, 74 YDS, 0 TD
A. Smith, 6 CAR, 42 YDS, 0 TD
K. Hunter, 4 CAR, 31 YDS, 0 TD
B. Dixon, 2 CAR, 3 YDS, 0 TD

TEAM 28 CAR, 150 YDS, 0 TD


San Francisco Receiving
V. Davis, 3 REC, 112 YDS, 2 TD
F.Gore, 6 REC, 45 YDS, 0 TD
D. Walker, 2 REC, 36 YDS, 0 TD
M. Crabtree, 1 REC, 3 YDS, 0 TD

TEAM 12 REC, 196 YDS, 2 TD

San Francisco Fumbles 4


I am glad to see the Chiefs drafted a mobile gunslinger quarterback. They are fun to watch.

Impressive to see Mahomes take command and move the ball down the field for his first career winning drive. Not an easy task for a rookie quarterback.

The titans had the 28th ranked yards defense and the 17th ranked points defense.

What does it say when 4 of the 7 teams that played those top 10 defenses outscored the Chiefs? And that's being generous considering those 7 teams included Foles. Defense may win championships but it's the offenses that are winning playoff games so far for the most part. Other than buffalo and Foles' eagles, the Chiefs are the only team not to get 21+ points at least once. Which is stunning considering the Chiefs and pats are the only 2 teams to not face a single top 10 defense.

The Chiefs have 4 playoff appearances.
In all 4 losses, our offense completely shit their pants in the second half. In our only win, we didn't have to show up in the 2nd half
In 3 of those losses, we had a maddeningly bad 4th quarter and closing drive (some would argue 4, but I'm not counting the colts loss).

Theres a common theme. The Chiefs are 0 for 4 when it comes to second halves and 4th quarters in the playoffs. You aren't beating anybody with that.

Keenum, Brees, bortles, big Ben all had outstanding 4th quarters. That was the X Factor in those playoff games. That was the X Factor for big Ben, Eli, Flacco, Russell Wilson when they made their playoff runs. That is the X Factor we have not had with Alex Smith in the playoffs to date.

Yes agreeing, just giving another example.

Joe Flacco playoff wins 10 SB wins 1

Alex Smith playoff wins 2 SB wins 0

Flaccs, not Smithsian...

Lol at the Alex Smith haters. First it is 'team wins games not QBs' now it is 'QBs win and lose games by themselves.'

You guys contradict yourselves in your own arguments. Idiots.

I would say this is probably the point that Sutton brought up to Reid in order to keep his job.

If only I would have had Berry!

Jesus the halflife on crippling insecurity is LONG

^^^^ This. Do we really need another Let's bash Alex Smith thread?

It's just a game, someone has to win and someone has to lose. Unfortunately, it's been the Chiefs that have been losing.

Move along, nothing to see here.

It’s def a team sport. But within that team you have to have a qb who can lead you late in a tight game (most of the time). Not one who gets happy feet and runs into sacks, when he needs to be clutch. You need defense to win, but if you’re in the game with time running out.... down by only a few.... do you really want Alex Smith as your qb in that situation? How many times has he shown us he’s capable of overcoming that situation? Aside from Alex’s family that’s on here, I don’t think too many people thought we REALLY had a shot when it came down to that situation against Tenn.... at home.... in the playoffs... I had no doubt in my mind, once we got the ball back and had to drive down to win, it was over. Haven’t seen Alex prove he can be that guy with any consistency to think otherwise.

Edit And I know our defense would have got torched by Pitt the next week and we’d have been out then. Our defense wasn’t near championship level this season.

The thing is, most people aren't pretending that Alex a savior of inadequate teams.

But 'the TN situation' is something that ONLY happens to Chiefs teams. The Steelers kept coming back on the Jaguars because they're the Steelers and are loaded with offensive talent.

The Chiefs are not only the only team in the playoffs, but perhaps the only team in the LEAGUE that the Titans can come back from a 20 point deficit on, and that's because they can't run the ball and play defense when it's actually called for, even when they have the lead.

And the contingent that is obsessed with the QB position doesn't give a single shit about that 'part' of football. It's just a fluke, defense is luck, excitement over a QB will fix all of that, blah, blah, blah. They tune out completely unless the ball is flying through the air, which is the only 'part' of the sport they give a shit about.

Sure, there will always be situations where you are forced to rely on a desperate drive by the QB to come back from the verge of defeat, but just as much as Alex might not be that guy, the Chiefs are the only team for which that need arises from double-digit leads forfeited in the playoffs.

So now we have this mindset in the fanbase that actually fielding a quality team is 'too hard and complicated.' Better to field one good player and hope he's good enough to make an inferior team competitive.