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pugsnotdrugs19 02-26-2018 03:41 PM

Chiefs expected to release S Ron Parker
 
Terez Paylor: Sources: Chiefs are expected to release Ron Parker in another move to gain salary-cap space:

https://twitter.com/terezpaylor/stat...39228768448518

http://amp.kansascity.com/sports/nfl...mpression=true

Quote:

The Chiefs’ rebuild is on in full force, apparently, as the club is expected to part ways with safety Ron Parker this offseason, sources told The Star on Monday.

The move is expected to create approximately $4.9 million in salary cap space in 2018 for the cash-strapped Chiefs, who are expected to have approximately $19 million in cap space when Parker is released and the trades of quarterback Alex Smith and cornerback Marcus Peters are made official next month.

The Chiefs will create an additional $6.6 million in cap space if outside linebacker Tamba Hali retires or is released.

Parker, 30, has been a steady constant in the Chiefs’ secondary since 2013, when he was claimed off waivers from the Seattle Seahawks. Since becoming a starter in 2014, he has recorded 40 pass defenses and seven interceptions and averaged 75 tackles per season.

The Franchise 02-26-2018 03:41 PM

**** yes. Thank God.

Buehler445 02-26-2018 03:42 PM

I don’t know what he was set to make but I’ve always thought you needed guys like Parker one team. Cheap and productive.

Chief Northman 02-26-2018 03:42 PM

Sanity exists.

Ming the Merciless 02-26-2018 03:43 PM

there goes my idea for next year's adopt a chief

**** man

BryanBusby 02-26-2018 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 13439892)
I don’t know what he was set to make but I’ve always thought you needed guys like Parker one team. Cheap and productive.

He's not really cheap and was one of the worst performers on the team last year.

I think they can reasonably replace him.

The Franchise 02-26-2018 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 13439892)
I don’t know what he was set to make but I’ve always thought you needed guys like Parker one team. Cheap and productive.

His cap hit is $7 million.

lcarus 02-26-2018 03:43 PM

He was a pretty decent safety at times during his stretch in KC. But yeah, makes sense to part ways with him now.

Mother****erJones 02-26-2018 03:43 PM

Not surprising with this youth movement

MGRS13 02-26-2018 03:44 PM

We could probably package him with say a sixth rounder and get someone's fourth.

O.city 02-26-2018 03:44 PM

Welp, it was a nice run.

lawrenceRaider 02-26-2018 03:44 PM

Thats addition by subtraction fellas. Enjoyed seeing him get roasted.

O.city 02-26-2018 03:45 PM

There may be like 3 returning starters on the defense next year, LOL>

lcarus 02-26-2018 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 13439892)
I don’t know what he was set to make but I’ve always thought you needed guys like Parker one team. Cheap and productive.

That's true. I know everyone here wants a 23 year old All-Pro at every position, but that's just not gonna happen. He was a solid veteran safety for several seasons. He covered over the top pretty well for the most part.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-26-2018 03:46 PM

For $5M in cap space, seems like an easy move. His play declined this year.

Cap space shouldn’t be an issue.

BryanBusby 02-26-2018 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MGRS13 (Post 13439908)
We could probably package him with say a sixth rounder and get someone's fourth.

We would be packaging the 4th with Parker for that 6th.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-26-2018 03:47 PM

So Parker made about 13.5 over 3 years to be subpar at both safety and corner.

Dorsey was the kind of guy that would hit on a number in roulette on his first bet then spend the next hour pissing away his winnings.

Dumbass just never knew when to walk away from the table.

notorious 02-26-2018 03:48 PM

Any safety that’s a part of the AIDSfest that occurred during jump balls this year can go away.

They were beyond bad.

ChiliConCarnage 02-26-2018 03:49 PM

For a team that's broke, this seems like some decent cap space to get back for a not super valuable piece.

Shoes 02-26-2018 03:50 PM

Tamba Hali cmon down you're the next aging veteran to get cut

The Franchise 02-26-2018 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13439912)
There may be like 3 returning starters on the defense next year, LOL>

So far....

Chris Jones
Reggie Ragland
Justin Houston
Eric Berry

Those are the only guys that I can think of. Hali is next to be gone and Ford's status is up in the air. Bailey might be gone as well....who knows.

thegame214 02-26-2018 03:51 PM

Money moves

pugsnotdrugs19 02-26-2018 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13439946)
So far....

Chris Jones
Reggie Ragland
Justin Houston
Eric Berry

Those are the only guys that I can think of. Hali is next to be gone and Ford's status is up in the air. Bailey might be gone as well....who knows.

Step back year for the Chiefs? Seems likely on the surface but then again the defense wasn’t good last year anyways.

The Franchise 02-26-2018 03:53 PM

Chiefs released FS Ron Parker.

The move saves nearly $5 million in cap room. The Chiefs' defensive makeover continues after last week's Marcus Peters trade and public announcement longtime ILB Derrick Johnson would not return. Parker, who turns 31 before the season, struggled mightily in both run support and pass coverage last season, grading out 86th among 89 qualified safeties in Pro Football Focus' ratings.

dirk digler 02-26-2018 03:53 PM

We are going to have plenty of money to get whoever we want especially with the cap increasing $8-10 million this year.

BryanBusby 02-26-2018 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13439956)
Step back year for the Chiefs? Seems likely on the surface but then again the defense wasn’t good last year anyways.

Because they are mostly cutting off expensive, shitty players?

RunKC 02-26-2018 03:54 PM

You’re next, Sorenson

notorious 02-26-2018 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13439946)
So far....

Chris Jones
Reggie Ragland
Justin Houston
Eric Berry

Those are the only guys that I can think of. Hali is next to be gone and Ford's status is up in the air. Bailey might be gone as well....who knows.

That is a good list. The defense sucked horribly anyway, it’s not we’ve jettisoned Pro-Bowlers.

The Franchise 02-26-2018 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13439965)
You’re next, Sorenson

Hali should be next.

No way Sorensen should stay at his current number though. ****ing Dorsey man.

Gravedigger 02-26-2018 03:55 PM

It's funny that we've been waiting for Eric Berry to come back so badly and to give us the push we need on our defense to make it further into the playoffs, and he's the only one left in that secondary coming back.

Marcellus 02-26-2018 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 13439958)
We are going to have plenty of money to get whoever we want especially with the cap increasing $8-10 million this year.

I think they can definitely sign 1 or 2 impact FA for defense. They don't have to be All Pros but good productive starters.

Need a CB (obviously)

And DL help mostly.

Buehler445 02-26-2018 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13439904)
His cap hit is $7 million.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13439903)
He's not really cheap and was one of the worst performers on the team last year.

I think they can reasonably replace him.

Yeah. At 7M.... deuces yo.

notorious 02-26-2018 03:58 PM

If Veach turns this defense around it will be a minor miracle.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-26-2018 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13439964)
Because they are mostly cutting off expensive, shitty players?

Outside of Peters—yes.

I don’t think the defense will be worse statistically. I’d say it’ll be better by a decent bit. But the talking heads aren’t going to see the big picture. It’ll be labeled a rebuild even though really, the building was already in shambles.

Urc Burry 02-26-2018 03:59 PM

Outside of Colquitt who isn’t exactly in the clear.. are we even going to have a single 30 year old on this team? Obviously this is before FA, but I can’t think of a single one

MGRS13 02-26-2018 03:59 PM

Lots of cap to play with. To bad we have the worst GM in the game running the show. Say what you will about Dorsey's contracts, and mind you some of them were bad. But it's a good thing he was still in charge when we traded with buffalo. If Veach had been running the show our next 5 first rounders and all the gates BBQ locations would now be in the hands of the Bills.

The Franchise 02-26-2018 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urc Burry (Post 13439989)
Outside of Colquitt who isn’t exactly in the clear.. are we even going to have a single 30 year old on this team? Obviously this is before FA, but I can’t think of a single one

For the 1000th time this offseason......


Colquitt is a FA.

Buehler445 02-26-2018 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urc Burry (Post 13439989)
Outside of Colquitt who isn’t exactly in the clear.. are we even going to have a single 30 year old on this team? Obviously this is before FA, but I can’t think of a single one

Schwartz is over 30 right?

BryanBusby 02-26-2018 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13439987)
Outside of Peters—yes.

I don’t think the defense will be worse statistically. I’d say it’ll be better by a decent bit. But the talking heads aren’t going to see the big picture. It’ll be labeled a rebuild even though really, the building was already in shambles.

Fair enough.

Ming the Merciless 02-26-2018 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13439987)
Outside of Peters—yes.

I don’t think the defense will be worse statistically. I’d say it’ll be better by a decent bit.

I actually think Pugs is right here....theres not a whole lot of room to go down.

Maybe we will get less picks or turnovers but I bet our yards allowed goes DOWN and if anything points per game allowed stay around the same (mid level)

DaFace 02-26-2018 04:01 PM

I guess I'm good with this one, but we're going to have to find DB's at some point this offseason with limited cap space with which to do so.

DaneMcCloud 02-26-2018 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urc Burry (Post 13439989)
Outside of Colquitt who isn’t exactly in the clear.. are we even going to have a single 30 year old on this team? Obviously this is before FA, but I can’t think of a single one

He's not under contract

The Franchise 02-26-2018 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 13440003)
I guess I'm good with this one, but we're going to have to find DB's at some point this offseason with limited cap space with which to do so.

We really aren't "limited" a ton.

Right now we're at roughly $20 million. Cut Hali and we're at $28 million. Make Sorensen a June 1st cut and we're at almost $32 million.

We can get cap space.

BryanBusby 02-26-2018 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 13440003)
I guess I'm good with this one, but we're going to have to find DB's at some point this offseason with limited cap space with which to do so.

If they cut enough dead weight, they will have some real flexibility between cap space (40'ish range) and draft picks.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 02-26-2018 04:03 PM

****ing Great. Was a good find and filled an important role for 4 years, but he's done.

BlackHelicopters 02-26-2018 04:03 PM

Peace out, Ron.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 02-26-2018 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13439965)
You’re next, Sorenson

I'm down.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-26-2018 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 13440003)
I guess I'm good with this one, but we're going to have to find DB's at some point this offseason with limited cap space with which to do so.

Should have around $30M to spend I think as of now, assuming Hali’s release as well as Zombo

dirk digler 02-26-2018 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 13440003)
I guess I'm good with this one, but we're going to have to find DB's at some point this offseason with limited cap space with which to do so.

Cap space shouldn't be an issue at all. The NFL is projecting an $8-11 million dollar increase this year so we could be looking at $35-40 million in free cap space.

UChieffyBugger 02-26-2018 04:06 PM

The guy simply couldn't tackle and with no dead money for cutting him this was always on the cards. Now let's put a stud next to Berry and put some decent corners alongside them.

dirk digler 02-26-2018 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 13439973)
I think they can definitely sign 1 or 2 impact FA for defense. They don't have to be All Pros but good productive starters.

Need a CB (obviously)

And DL help mostly.

I agree but they are going to need quite a few new players along with our rookies. This is definitely a rebuild year.

The time is now though to do this with a cheap Mahomes contract and we will have plenty of money.

Bewbies 02-26-2018 04:08 PM

I liked Parker early on. Guys like him are a lot of fun to cheer on because they have to absolutely work their ass off to get anything.

Last year was bad though.

Hoover 02-26-2018 04:09 PM

Bring on the youth movement. If you are going to do it, don't do it half-assed.

raybec 4 02-26-2018 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13439956)
Step back year for the Chiefs? Seems likely on the surface but then again the defense wasn’t good last year anyways.

There's not much further back for the 29th ranked D to go!

TwistedChief 02-26-2018 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13439918)
For $5M in cap space, seems like an easy move. His play declined this year.

This. He noticeably seemed to regress last year. If we're going to re-tool the defense, let's burn it all down. :clap:

UChieffyBugger 02-26-2018 04:14 PM

The question I have is, how many teams who have built a young defense in the offseason, has managed to make a deep run In the playoffs? Is there a particular team who has done this in recent years?

Hog's Gone Fishin 02-26-2018 04:16 PM

We need to keep Sorenson. Also dropping Parker gives us space to bring in Manziel.

TambaBerry 02-26-2018 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13439890)
**** yes. Thank God.

This

Buehler445 02-26-2018 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 13440037)
Bring on the youth movement. If you are going to do it, don't do it half-assed.

I’ve said it before and I guess I’ll keep saying it.

In a capped sport it’s about efficiency rather than youth or whatever other metric. It’s about production per unit payroll. Parker was a guy that fit that mold. We got a lot of production or of him especially early on and he wasn’t necessarily young.

It’s not good to have the whole damn team be 23-25. Then their contracts all come up at the same time and you’re starting the **** over. A team needs a balance of guys and for them to not get bunched up to have consistent sustainable success.

All that stems from good personnel decisions and avoiding the hard busts both with draft equity and free agent payroll.

But yeah. A full on fire everybody youth movement isn’t as productive as you’d think. Good teams have middle tier free agent acquisitions that are efficient payroll dollars.

staylor26 02-26-2018 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 13440063)
I’ve said it before and I guess I’ll keep saying it.

In a capped sport it’s about efficiency rather than youth or whatever other metric. It’s about production per unit payroll. Parker was a guy that fit that mold. We got a lot of production or of him especially early on and he wasn’t necessarily young.

It’s not good to have the whole damn team be 23-25. Then their contracts all come up at the same time and you’re starting the **** over. A team needs a balance of guys and for them to not get bunched up to have consistent sustainable success.

All that stems from good personnel decisions and avoiding the hard busts both with draft equity and free agent payroll.

But yeah. A full on fire everybody youth movement isn’t as productive as you’d think. Good teams have middle tier free agent acquisitions that are efficient payroll dollars.

Moves like this will allow us to do just that this offseason and next.

Chiefnj2 02-26-2018 04:32 PM

A youth movement has its time and place. I'm not sure the year you start your inexperienced top 10 QB is the best. More bad than good if a young guy has to drop back a lot to play catch up.

Hog's Gone Fishin 02-26-2018 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 13440063)
I’ve said it before and I guess I’ll keep saying it.

In a capped sport it’s about efficiency rather than youth or whatever other metric. It’s about production per unit payroll. Parker was a guy that fit that mold. We got a lot of production or of him especially early on and he wasn’t necessarily young.

It’s not good to have the whole damn team be 23-25. Then their contracts all come up at the same time and you’re starting the **** over. A team needs a balance of guys and for them to not get bunched up to have consistent sustainable success.

All that stems from good personnel decisions and avoiding the hard busts both with draft equity and free agent payroll.

But yeah. A full on fire everybody youth movement isn’t as productive as you’d think. Good teams have middle tier free agent acquisitions that are efficient payroll dollars.

Well, we'll have Jones ,KPass and Houston up front. we'll have Ragland, Eligewe and probably KPL at LB. We'll have Berry, Fuller and maybe Sorenson in the backfield. So hitting on 3 draft picks on Defense every year is a good way to keep supplied. Stay young and fast. Bring in two DL in FA and we have to draft that damn punter from Texas with our 3rd.

Offense we just need a LG and a QB behind Mahomes and we're good there.

Sassy Squatch 02-26-2018 04:36 PM

I'm all in for the youth movement, but why are we keeping that fuccboi Bob Sutton around to run it on the field?

smithandrew051 02-26-2018 04:36 PM

I want to see Ron Parker hug his new head coach. I bet his hugs are just chest bumps though...he was never known for wrapping up.

smithandrew051 02-26-2018 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13440101)
I'm all in for the youth movement, but why are we keeping that fuccboi Bob Sutton around to run it on the field?

So we can draft higher and get better players for the next regime?

chiefzilla1501 02-26-2018 04:38 PM

I'm a fan of this move. Also makes me wonder if Sutton is under pressure to run a bigger, tougher defense. Which makes me also wonder if he'll reconsider running Dime.

notorious 02-26-2018 04:39 PM

This team had maybe the worst safety play in the NFL this past season. Jettison all participants not named after a fruit.

KChiefs1 02-26-2018 04:41 PM

Good.

When is Sorensen next?

TRR 02-26-2018 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 13440092)
Well, we'll have Jones ,KPass and Houston up front. we'll have Ragland, Eligewe and probably KPL at LB. We'll have Berry, Fuller and maybe Sorenson in the backfield. So hitting on 3 draft picks on Defense every year is a good way to keep supplied. Stay young and fast. Bring in two DL in FA and we have to draft that damn punter from Texas with our 3rd.

Offense we just need a LG and a QB behind Mahomes and we're good there.

That list of names is hard to get excited about. Jones and Berry will be coming off injuries, and Elegwe and Kpass barely saw the field last season. Sorenson is no better than a 3rd/4th safety at best.

Veach will need to be strategic, but aggressive in Free Agency if KC plans on not taking a large step back next season. I believe the offense needs more than just a LG and a backup QB. I would add a veteran WR to the list (they were able to get away with a young WR Corp last season with a veteran QB) and a proven #2 TE along with that LG. Defense is in complete overhaul mode.

NJChiefsFan 02-26-2018 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 13439983)
If Veach turns this defense around it will be a minor miracle.

What's your idea of a major one?

Hog's Gone Fishin 02-26-2018 04:47 PM

Sorenson is the type player every team needs as solid depth.

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Ming the Merciless 02-26-2018 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 13440145)
What's your idea of a major one?

ROFL

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AssEaterChief 02-26-2018 04:49 PM

Not a surprise…that contract they gave him was a tad too much

RealSNR 02-26-2018 04:50 PM

Get the **** out, Tamba.

MGRS13 02-26-2018 04:51 PM

What is the cap hit if they trade Berry. No reason to keep him around. I doubt he wants to be here now anyways. Surely Veach's dumb ass could get a conditional 7th for him.

NJChiefsFan 02-26-2018 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 13439983)
If Veach turns this defense around it will be a minor miracle.

What's your idea of a major one?

Hog's Gone Fishin 02-26-2018 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MGRS13 (Post 13440168)
What is the cap hit if they trade Berry. No reason to keep him around. I doubt he wants to be here now anyways. Surely Veach's dumb ass could get a conditional 7th for him.

I'm trying to think of something to say about your Mom. Give me a minute.

ToxSocks 02-26-2018 05:00 PM

Veach taking a sledgehammer to this defense.

Best22 02-26-2018 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 13440053)
The question I have is, how many teams who have built a young defense in the offseason, has managed to make a deep run In the playoffs? Is there a particular team who has done this in recent years?

We haven't made a "deep run" since 1993. And this group sure wasn't going to do it

Change is good, bring on the new kids!

staylor26 02-26-2018 05:01 PM

Good. Now go get Fuller and Norwell in free agency


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