Chiefs updated cap
 

What are we looking at here? Per this tweet from Terez, we rolled over $2.6 million.

https://mobile.twitter.com/TerezPayl...02439328346112

Per OTC, we had $12,594 this year, so the rollover would still make it $2.6 million.

Here’s the money we’d save from moves we’ve made:

Alex trade-$17 million
Peters trade-$1.7 million
DJ-$0 (voided contract)
Parker cut-$4.9 million

So as of now I believe that should put us at $26.2 million (if this is not accurate let me know).

Other potential moves coming:

Tamba cut-$7.6 million
Nelson trade?-$1.9 million
Sorenson cut-$3.8 million (post June 1st)
Bailey cut-$5.9 million
Ford 5th yr option TBD-$8.7 million

That’s....a lot of money to spend. And it’s not counting the cap rise

We should keep Bailey and Sorenson

We need to lock up Albert

Impossible. Dorsey screwed the cap beyond belief.

Sign Kyle Fuller

Hali, Bailey, and Ford...
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If I am ever fired I hope Vince does it

How much does Parker save?

Wtf is this Nelson trade crap? Are we serious. Is Fuller gonna play three positions at once??!!!!

Neither the Rams cap or draft capital will even notice anything went missing for the Peters trade. I think the Rams owe us a fruit basket or something.

4.9m. I know because it says so right up there.

Well, Clark is going to pay a metric **** ton of dead money this year. He was already paying almost $6 million to Jeremy Maclin and Jah Reid before any moves from this offseason were made.

Well, a few things:

1. For the love of God, use this website: https://overthecap.com/calculator/kansas-city-chiefs/

2. "not counting the cap rise". Actually, ti does. The OTC website I liked estimates the cap at $179.6M, which is a reasonable but not very conservative estimate.

3. Cutting the above players, ignoring the Ford option impact, results in the Chiefs having nearly $40 million of cap space. Quite alot, but need to set aside some for draft picks and mid-year flexibility. Will also need to be mindful that if Mahomes performs very well, he is going to be looking for a substantial bump and extending him next offseason might be alot cheaper than waiting for him to complete his fourth year.

But yeah, some bucks to spend it looks like.

Maclin will be available if Reid wants him back.

ChUNT doesn’t like to pay for nothing. Reason Dorsey was fired.

$4.9 million is the net number if he's cut, as there is $2M that will hit the cap as dead money.

:facepalm:

$80 million in Dead Money

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Hmmm what is the $5 million disparity from?

I think you keep Ford in the hopes he plays an entire year so that we get a higher comp pick in the future.

But yeah, I think I'd cut Bailey at this point, Hali is a goner, and I hate Sorenson, but he might stick for another year.

I'm excited to have SOME space obviously, but the Chiefs are still bottom 10 in the league in cap space, and it's pretty likely that a third of that cap space will go toward replacing Peters if we have to bring in a FA to do it.

Yeah, much as we all want them to, it's a good idea to not spend it like wild men and get this shit in order.

Bring in some bargains, hope to draft well and see what happens I guess.

Might be wise to roll over as much 2018 space as possible and go all in for 2019/2020 FA with Mahomes on the rookie deal.

I don't agree.

I have no idea what the FA class is like, but if there's guys in this class that you identify as long-term solutions, you sign them now.

This team can contend for the division this year if they stay true with their commitment to a younger, faster, attacking defense.

Geoff Schwartz brought it up and made a similar point. Even if you wanna rebuild for 2019, get as many of the guys you want in here now and let them all build together.

The rolling over cap space isn't something that should be part of any plan. Sign who you think fits what you want to do. The cap is going up 10 million this year and will likely continue to rise next year. It's great to roll over a lot of space when you don't have significant holes and a defense that needs immediate fixing.

Is it worth it to trade Houston?

1 more cut and we bring in Malcolm Butler baby.

Good point. I’m honestly not ready to completely chalk up 2018 as a transition year yet. The offense has too much potential.

But we certainly don’t want Veach to get stupid with the new found cap space. I guess that’s what I meant originally.

Yea it couldn't have been his spotty drafting record and his shitty contract history.

Sure if yo can find a team dumb enough to eat that contract. Ain't happening.

Why would we trade Nelson?

Can’t extend a player after just 2 seasons, I think, under the CBA.

The earliest the Chiefs can extend Mahomes is 2020

I feel like we will finally be an Andy Reid team, lots of talent on offense, a lot of work to do on defense. While the defensive rebuild will take time, its nice that we will be distracted by a young QB with an amazing arm and playmaking ability. I laugh at all those pissed off fans. The next few years is going to be a lot of fun!

Hate to see Bailey go

If Bailey and Nelson go, that's gonna be a full defense to rebuild. Damn.

Oh well.

We were a dumpster fire on D last year. The writing was on the wall.

The whole "Nelson being traded" story was from a Rappoport report. Apparently after trading for Fuller and signing Amerson the Chiefs thought about trading Nelson before deciding to trade Peters instead. Not sure they're still trying to trade Nelson now that Peters is gone. Who knows though.

Kendall Fuller plays his position on 3rd down. Nelson isn’t a true outside corner either.

Seems expendable

Not right now he doesn't. When we go nickle....who are you putting on the outside? Amerson is one side but who's on the other?

Kyle Fuller hopefully.

We damn well better have some cap room after firing a third of the team. We have a lot of holes to fill.

He's cheap and has shown he's versatile. Unless you can get something valuable back, keep him around.

I'm not excited about potentially having to sign some old **** off the street in week 12 again.

Right now we have: Fuller, Amerson and Nelson.

If we can get a Fuller or Melvin in FA.....then I'd be all for it. If not....then I'd bring back Mitchell and draft a CB in the 3rd round as depth. It's not ideal but it's not going to be possible to fill every hole on this defense in one offseason.

They're gonna have to add someone. I'd love the FUller's together with Amerson and Nelson then add some better safety play.

I'm not sure that Nelson will be gone but so far, the only true surprise has been trading Peters.

The rest of these players (Hali, DJ, Parker, Sorensen, Bailey, etc.) were all speculated to be cut for months.

I'm thrilled that Veach is remaking the defense and I'm also thrilled that old coaches were let go in favor of young guys in their 30's because they'll be able to communicate better with a new bunch of 21-23 year olds.

Think this is Sutton's last season?

I think that Veach is just getting started in remaking the defense.

If the Chiefs defense is still ranked in the bottom 5 after massive changes to personnel and the firings of several defensive coaches, I think that Andy will have no choice but to fire him in 2019.

That said, Sutton has had some very good defenses when he had healthy players.

The lack of depth on the roster really caught up with them in 2017, so if they show major signs of improvement, I imagine he'll be around next year.