Mahomes vs Mayfield
 

What a fun game to watch. We'll see the NFL version this season. And just think, John Dorsey drafted both of them.

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I almost wanted Denver to take Mayfield. I saw them as very similar players. Luckily the Donks have no QB on their staff to compete with our guy.

This is an OU highlight reel - they don't even show the TT scoring plays, only the good OU defensive plays. Gotta be a better video out there.

There's one that only shows mahomes. Or the whole game. Its a good one

The video seems to go out of its way to show bad plays by Mahomes and good plays by Mayfield.

The ease in which Mayfield throws seam routes is impressive. He seems to have a natural power to his throws that make them seem effortless. I hope for Cleveland's sake that he turns out to be a good one.

I still think that Dorsey screwed up by passing on Chubb for Ward.

I think Dorsey should’ve gone with Barkley at 1, Chubb at 4, and traded back into the late first for Lamar Jackson. I’d take those 3 over Ward and Mayfield any day.

Lamar Jackson, do you mean CB Josh Jackson? (Why would they take two QBs?)

Baker Mayfield
Bradley Chubb
Josh Jackson
Nick Chubb

Would have been a quality first two rounds.

It's a Sooner fan highlight video. He doesn't want to show the carnage Mahomes did to his defense and who could blame him

He's saying they should have passed on Mayfield. Barkley at #1 and Chubb at #4 then trade back into the 1st round and take Lamar Jackson.

Thanks. For some reason, my brain flashed to Matt Barkley.


Derp

Did you even read the post? Barkley at 1 and Chubb at 4 means only 1 quarterback (Jackson) in that scenario.

I’m going to watch it this weekend when I have time.

Mayfield is throwing to wide-open guys while Mahomes' targets tend to have guys draped all over them.

Mahomes will ****ing pwn his ass!!!

Yeah, and add to the argument Mahomes basically had that albatross of a defense that he had to carry...

At this point it's redundant

2:29min mark where Mahomes launches a 52yd bomb off of his back foot with a DT right up his ass is a BEAUTIFUL pass. Dropped it right in the bread basket of his WR.

That would have been a 40yd duck >> interception had that been Alex Smith throwing the ball. And really the more I think about it, Smith is too conservative to even think about making that pass, probably holds onto the ball too long, gives up and takes the sack.

The major difference between Mahomes and Smith will be no more of the 4-5yd dump offs and passes into the flats on 3rd n long. Mahomes is competitive, comes from a pass happy scoring offense at TTU, the guy wants to put his arm to test and wants to score each time he goes out there. Alex Smith just wants to put the team in positions to win, and that's fine, in large part it worked. But there are those QB who elevate those around them. With Smith, it was the other way around.

Mahomes has the luxury of having some pretty darn good weapons across the board. Still pissed KC didn't draft Christian Kirk, would've made the perfect slot guy. But Hill/Watkins/Kelce/Hunt, and with Conley coming back, is def nothing to complain about. Hopefully if Conley gets back 100% healthy he can better contribute w/ Mahomes giving him the ball. But I also think the Chiefs overpaid for Watkins perhaps because they desperately needed a #2WR and maybe don't think Conley will be back to pre-inj form? Either way more weapons the better.

who is this smith person you speak of? what position does he play? :D

That was a great game to watch.

I remember, as a OU fan, that OU was a better team....BUT Mahomes kept TT in the game.

Never felt assured of the win until the clock read 00:00.

you are not wrong in this assessment as i watched this game for the first time recently. it was actually a quite boring game the first half. was thinking to myself that 'is this the game everyone kept talking about?' but man, the second half...

:thumb:

Cleveland has chosen that strategy the past many years. Who knows, it may amount to some good now that they've added a team with some halfway decent pieces to work with like Miles Garrett, but as far as passing on all the QBs like they did last year, that was simply not in the cards for Dorsey.

Mahomes is more talented but they're one in the same as far as sheer will to win goes. I'm a non OU fan in the sooner state, and as badly as I don't want to admit it mayfields a baller. He definately had more talent on the field around him in this game though.

Yep. Just like he did when they both were at Texas Tech.

That's the thing that stuck out to me. All the times Mayfield had a clean pocket to throw to and shit Mixon had 263 rushing hards.

Then look at Mahomes, most of the time I saw his OL break down quickly. Plus Mahomes led his team in rushing too lol.

Mahomes single handily kept that game close, its crazy.

Jesus there was some awful defense in that game though...I mean like, "**** I hate this team if I were a fan" bad...

I totally egregious, popo

I can''t believe this guy is on OUR team. Still seems surreal.

LMAO

I’d take Lamar Jackson over Case ****ing Keenum

I actually said something similar in the draft thread before the draft started. I'd like to have seen Cleveland trade #1 to the Pats(who did want Mayfield) for their 2 firsts and 2 seconds. Trade 4 to Buffalo for their two firsts and I think they had 2 seconds...

They'd have had 4 1st round picks, 7 second round picks, and what, 2-3 3rd round picks? They could have built damn near an entire roster in one off-season. Then again, I'm not a GM and I may have proposed the worst take all year.

Still beating off to that 52yd bomb from the back foot.

Defense is lava...

I have a feeling we will all be beating off a lot this season. In fact, on opening day, Arrowhead Stadium may morph into a giant circle jerk. :whackit::whackit::whackit:

I am very happy Dorsey went with Mayfield. The Broncos will have an insane defender again, but as long as they don’t find their QB it means nothing. Mayfield might legit be the best guy in he draft.

I think it’s him or Rosen.

My thoughts exactly. I was just hoping they would not grab Darnold or Mayfield but them not grabbing any QB is great news. They will be irrelevant as long as they don't find a better QB.

Every time Mahomes got the score close for TT the defense would lay an egg and OU would score. The backbreaker in the game was the score OU got right before halftime and got the ball again after the half, only to score again...:#

Mayfield really changed his game after his freshman year at Tech. He was nothing but a turnover machine that year. He never grew up off the field though.

Mahomes has a better arm & a better attitude. I think he'll be the better QB in the long run.

did you watch it? It showed several TT touchdowns.. :eek:

Same here, and I'm a K-State fan. I never felt assured of the K-State win in 2017 until that clock hit 00:00, and TT had the ball on a onside kick recovery.

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Mahomes is taller, bigger, and does not have the baggage.

On February 25, 2017, Mayfield was arrested in Washington County, Arkansas on public intoxication and fleeing charges.[44] The charges included public intoxication, disorderly conduct, fleeing and resisting arrest. At 2:29 a.m. that Saturday, a police officer was flagged down on an assault and battery report. The person who flagged the officer was yelling at Mayfield. The preliminary police report described Mayfield as unable to walk straight, having slurred speech and food covering the front of his shirt. When he was asked to stay so the police could get a statement, Mayfield began shouting obscenities and "causing a scene". Mayfield was booked at 8:21 a.m. local time on the misdemeanor charges. He had a court date on April 7 for the public intoxication charge, he pleaded not guilty to all charges.[45] On June 15, 2017, the University of Oklahoma ordered Mayfield to undergo 35 hours of community service along with completing an alcohol education program.[46]

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Mahomes vs Mayfield may end up being an epic battle for years to come. Im looking forward to that Browns game assuming Mayfield is starting by then.

I think the NFL has seen an injection of young QB's over these past 2-3 seasons. They badly needed it as the old guard gets pushed out.

Oh, and LMAO LMAO LMAO @ the Donks who are still hitching their wagon to Paxton Lynch.

I ABSOLUTELY wanted that douchebag bust in Denver. AMAZING entertainment value for at least two seasons.

Did any DB coach still have a job after that game?

I remember being upset when the donkos traded ahead of us for lynch. Not because I loved him but just because he was a qb.

It would be fun to watch a dual "air raid" attack at the NFL level... doubt it happens, but shootouts are fun.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-foo...d-quarterbacks

https://www.sbnation.com/2017/4/25/1...nfl-transition

Air raid is for girls.

Well, if you like watching pass happy offenses as I do... it's a fun offense to watch. It hasn't translated well at all. Foles did just win a SB, even if he was the backup and ran the team for a short while down the stretch, but they can add that to their fairly limited resume.

Maybe Denver can implement some of that with the weapons they have now... blending some of those nuances and schemes would be good for the NFL. It's a QB/Pass happy league.

Good way to get your offensive skill players killed.
No thanks, I like pro set football. Even in college air raid is gimmicky, just not my thing.

https://forums.jetnation.com/uploads...70531263a2.jpg I disagree

Yeah it's a totally subjective thing. Some people like to watch that air raid thing, some like traditional football. I'm not saying anyone is wrong, just my view. I used to really enjoy watching the wishbone offense.

So, your team is still searching for a QB?

Wow. You should be a GM. That would have been amazing.

Can you imagine Saqaun Barkley and Lamaar Jackson on the same offense? Unstoppable

Going to be a fun rivalry for years

LMAO

You are so predictable with your shit stirring schtick it is ridiculous.

DeBerg...

and the better leader today is who?

Mahomes > Mayfield

I'd probably take Mahomes if I had the choice.

It's similar to the long-running debate between you and JakeF and Red Dawg and OKChiefs for worst poster on a message board of tens of thousands.

It's "fun."

Deberg is self aware. That disqualifies him, at least in my mind. He knows what he's doing And he's pretty ****ing good at it if the reactions he constantly gets are any indication.

Mayfield vs. Mahomes is sort of like comparing Elliot Page to Scarlett Johansson.

The 1 play possession to Tyreek for 75 yards. May have gotten into Mayfields' head on his INT.

I wonder if pete is in GD chat. Because, Jesus, he's a downer in there.

Nah. I can't give him credit for that. He's too much of a caricature of himself. We all know he tries too hard. Literally all of us.

Mmm. There is something to that as well, I suppose. But worst poster on the board? Nah.

Mayfield is really, really good, but he's nowhere NEAR Pat.

Can we just knock off all this stupid horse****?

Mayfield has a torn Labia


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Browns?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Browns</a> QB Baker Mayfield, who has been wearing a shoulder harness to play, suffered a partially torn labrum in his left shoulder on Sept 19 vs the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Texans</a>, sources say. No surgery needed as of now. He was listed on the report after the injury and hasn’t missed a practice snap.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1446106414653583362?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 7, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Depending on what that means, it can be worse than a true tear.

My right shoulder is hamburger from baseball, dodgeball (yeah, that happened) and skiing accidents. Part of it is about 12 micro-tears throughout my labrum. Doctor has said he could do surgery on it but I'd end up with a billion little pieces being sewn back together and its unlikely to actually help much.

I pretty much just need to work really hard to warm it up before I throw and I still don't have the oomph behind it I used to.

Now if Baker just has a couple in there, he should be fine. They don't really progress from use, they're kinda one-off sorts of things that will get better with time provided they haven't sorta scarred over. But if he's developing any kind of chronic inflammation in there, it's not gonna go away and eventually it will impact his effectiveness even if he can manage the pain well.


EDIT: Oh wait - it's his non-throwing shoulder. Lord, who gives a shit? That shouldn't impact him much at all. Nut up, pussy. It's just a little discomfort.

My favorite football injury was back when Alex had a lacerated spleen.

It sounds like a joke injury. Like it’s a punchline in a Calvin and Hobbes cartoon where Calvin is trying to get out of class, so he smears ketchup under his shirt and asks, “Miss Wormwood? May I be excused? I think I have a lacerated spleen.”

"I have an enlarged prostrate"

This debate is over.

there never truly was one.