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T-post Tom 07-19-2018 12:51 AM

Jurrell Casey plans to protest on field during anthem
 
Tennessee Titans defensive end Jurrell Casey says he plans to protest social injustice on the field during the national anthem before games this season and "take my fine."

"I'm going to take a fine this year, why not?" Casey told CNN at an NFL promotional event in London. "I'm going to protest during the flag. That's what I'm going to say now.

"... It is what it is, I ain't going to let them stop me from doing what I want to do. If they want to have these battles between players and organizations, this is the way it's going to be."

The Titans did not comment on Casey's remarks.

The NFL approved a new national anthem policy in May requiring players and league personnel on the sideline to stand. Players and personnel also have the option to remain in the locker room if they choose not to stand during the anthem.

Under the change, individual clubs have the power to set their own policies to ensure the anthem is being respected during any on-field action. If a player chooses to protest on the sideline the NFL will fine the team. Players could also be fined by their teams, per the policy.

Colin Kaepernick's decision to protest social inequality against minorities by taking a knee during the playing of the national anthem before a preseason game in 2016 spurred other players to protest. President Donald Trump has sharply criticized the actions of protesting players and called on team owners in September to "fire" them. The following week, players and team owners across the league took part in displays of solidarity during the national anthem. Some players continued their on-field protests for the rest of the season.

Casey told CNN his protests in 2018 will be a "continuation" of what he did last season when he raised a fist during the playing of the anthem.

"Around the NFL, guys are definitely not happy about it," Casey said about the policy. "I feel it's not right, I don't think it was a good decision for the NFL to come up with that ruling. But they have their reasons for what they've done."

Casey said he was prepared to face "blowback" from people who disagree with his decision.

"It is what it is, at the end of the day, I don't pay no mind to it. I'm going to do what I do that's going to bring light to my community. ... I will continue to use my platform to keep on speaking up."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000940855/article/jurrell-casey-plans-to-protest-on-field-during-anthem

Flying High D 07-19-2018 01:05 AM

http://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/...b3&oe=5BD758CA

ILChief 07-19-2018 05:43 AM

I'm so over this from all sides

Hog's Gone Fishin 07-19-2018 06:16 AM

They should just go ahead and cut his ass.

BigCatDaddy 07-19-2018 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 13634922)
They should just go ahead and cut his ass.

This. The only way to clean up this mess is send these guys packing to the cfl.

Why Not? 07-19-2018 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Flying High D (Post 13634875)

This

WhawhaWhat 07-19-2018 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 13634925)
This

It's been that way for a long, long time.

MarkDavis'Haircut 07-19-2018 06:36 AM

Who?

Mecca 07-19-2018 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Flying High D (Post 13634875)

Anyone with a public profile is going to be taken as being somewhat important. That's just how life works.

SuperBowl4 07-19-2018 06:37 AM

What does Pappa John think about this?

Mecca 07-19-2018 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Carr4MVP (Post 13634930)
Who?

If in reality you don't know who he is, then you don't pay much attention.

Skyy God 07-19-2018 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperBowl4 (Post 13634932)
What does Pappa John think about this?

Probably has something to do with Casey being dragged by a truck back in the day.

Red Dawg 07-19-2018 06:40 AM

Football players are so stupid. Really stupid. Always in the news for some bullshit.

MarkDavis'Haircut 07-19-2018 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13634933)
If in reality you don't know who he is, then you don't pay much attention.

Honestly, his name doesn't ring a bell but I have also scaled back my NFL involvement. A decade ago, I knew almost every player in the league.

Mecca 07-19-2018 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Carr4MVP (Post 13634941)
Honestly, his name doesn't ring a bell but I have also scaled back my NFL involvement. A decade ago, I knew almost every player in the league.

Dude he's a defensive tackle that gets sacks...how many DT's have 40 career sacks? he does.

SuperBowl4 07-19-2018 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 13634934)
Probably has something to do with Casey being dragged by a truck back in the day.

Will the Titans take away this guys "platform"?

Mecca 07-19-2018 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperBowl4 (Post 13634943)
Will the Titans take away this guys "platform"?

I'll go with probably not, his contract makes him hard to cut and well honestly he's one of their best players.

MarkDavis'Haircut 07-19-2018 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13634942)
Dude he's a defensive tackle that gets sacks...how many DT's have 40 career sacks? he does.

Like I said, I have been out of the loop. I probably heard it and just forgot. Outside of the Raiders-Titans game last year, I didn't watch a single Titans matchup. The NFL has lost some of its luster.

Spott 07-19-2018 07:12 AM

Meh, I could care less about the political beliefs of someone that I’ve never met and never will. Hell, I don’t care about what anyone thinks about politics because it’s completely irrelevant to anything going on in my life.

sully1983 07-19-2018 07:15 AM

This dumb meat head doesn't even know what exactly he's protesting . "Social injustices " ?

loochy 07-19-2018 07:17 AM

Never heard of her
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Reerun_KC 07-19-2018 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Spott (Post 13634977)
Meh, I could care less about the political beliefs of someone that I’ve never met and never will. Hell, I don’t care about what anyone thinks about politics because it’s completely irrelevant to anything going on in my life.

This.

Nzoner 07-19-2018 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 13634922)
They should just go ahead and cut his ass.

:thumb:

This just gives me more willpower in taking a giant step away from this league.

jjchieffan 07-19-2018 07:29 AM

It says in the article that last year he would raise his fist during the anthem as his protest. It also says that he will continue his protest this season. If he is standing and raising his fist, then I guess that he's obeying the new NFL policy right? They just require players to stand I believe.

stevieray 07-19-2018 07:31 AM

...his platform?

:rolleyes:

loochy 07-19-2018 07:33 AM

Nothing will change his old neighborhood quite like raising a fist. Boy, that'll get things done. :rolleyes:
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Hog Rider 07-19-2018 07:36 AM

Doesn't the team pay the fine instead of the player?

loochy 07-19-2018 07:37 AM

Maybe he gets "injured" and placed on IR for a week or 2.
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Nzoner 07-19-2018 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 13635010)
Nothing will change his old neighborhood quite like raising a fist. Boy, that'll get things done. :rolleyes:
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:clap:

Hoopsdoc 07-19-2018 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Rider (Post 13635013)
Doesn't the team pay the fine instead of the player?

I don’t think that’s specified but I imagine most teams will pay the fines.

Strongside 07-19-2018 07:55 AM

These protests have moved past the point of “shedding light on one’s community.” They represent something drastically different to the general public now. The original message has been so muddied up that it’s become moot. My issue is that I’ve not heard one person explain to me what the end game is. What’s the desired outcome? “Shedding light on your community” is great, but what do you WANT to see happen to satisfy your protest?

Protests are the sister of demand. If you can’t clearly, or even loosely, define what your demands are, then your protest is simply an act of rebellion. Rebellion is fine, but it’s no way to shift public perception or opinion without a stated goal.

The one thing that irked me abou Peters’ protests last year is that he REFUSED to talk about it. If you’re trying to raise awareness, but then you don’t use your voice in your unique public stage, that’s a huge miss. It comes off as incredibly self-serving.

displacedinMN 07-19-2018 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 13635019)
I don’t think that’s specified but I imagine most teams will pay the fines.

Until 25 players protest and the NFL fines each of them 5000 a game.

displacedinMN 07-19-2018 08:02 AM

Talking about it on the radio today. Michelle Tafoya is on KQRS Minneapolis in the mornings.

The other host Tom Barnard said "What if the network just does not show the anthem or any of the protests?"

She said "We have to document what we see. If someone is doing this-we show it. We have to."

It will be posted on KQRS soon. Started talking about it about 8:35 am.

It sounds like Tafoya is tired of the whole thing too.

Nzoner 07-19-2018 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 13635028)
These protests have moved past the point of “shedding light on one’s community.” They represent something drastically different to the general public now. The original message has been so muddied up that it’s become moot. My issue is that I’ve not heard one person explain to me what the end game is. What’s the desired outcome? “Shedding light on your community” is great, but what do you WANT to see happen to satisfy your protest?

Protests are the sister of demand. If you can’t clearly, or even loosely, define what your demands are, then your protest is simply an act of rebellion. Rebellion is fine, but it’s no way to shift public perception or opinion without a stated goal.

The one thing that irked me abou Peters’ protests last year is that he REFUSED to talk about it. If you’re trying to raise awareness, but then you don’t use your voice in your unique public stage, that’s a huge miss. It comes off as incredibly self-serving.

Very well put and 100% agree

My opinion(especially with guys like Peters) **** them and **** this league

loochy 07-19-2018 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 13635040)
She said "We have to document what we see. If someone is doing this-we show it. We have to."

No, you don't. It's just like how they never show field streakers.
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displacedinMN 07-19-2018 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 13635048)
No, you don't. It's just like how they never show field streakers.
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NBC.

They could stop showing the anthem or just show the flag for a minute.

Strongside 07-19-2018 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 13635048)
No, you don't. It's just like how they never show field streakers.
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Great comparison.

Networks be like: “we will not show fans that run into the field. We don’t want to glorify criminals.”

Also networks: “Here’s 50 photos and the life story of this mass shooter. We have to show this!”

KChiefs1 07-19-2018 08:17 AM

I'm so sick of this whole thing.

DJJasonp 07-19-2018 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 13635057)
Great comparison.

Networks be like: “we will not show fans that run into the field. We don’t want to glorify criminals.”

Also networks: “Here’s 50 photos and the life story of this mass shooter. We have to show this!”

Bingo. Wouldnt want to miss out on a little controversy/drama would they?

Media are whores.

Valiant 07-19-2018 08:49 AM

Agreed, if the mediA just shows the flag and singer the issue goes away.

Also, don't have the players out there. They didn't use to be until the military paid the league to have them out there.

If they stay out there, eventually the team will take action as the league would just keep increasing the fine until it hurts.

KChiefs1 07-19-2018 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strongside (Post 13635057)
Great comparison.



Networks be like: “we will not show fans that run into the field. We don’t want to glorify criminals.”



Also networks: “Here’s 50 photos and the life story of this mass shooter. We have to show this!”



I don't watch the news anymore.

smithandrew051 07-19-2018 09:43 AM

My theory.

The NFL loves the anthem protest, because controversy creates cash. They announced the new rule after the draft and before camp. They found a way to stay in the news during a dead period.

They could’ve squashed this whole thing before it started if they were concerned with it. The first time Kaep sat through the anthem, they could’ve settled it then. They could’ve instructed their announcers, film crew, pregame shows, etc to not talk about it at all. Don’t give it any press and it will go away eventually. I would assume the NFL has decent leverage with ESPN as well. They probably could’ve made sure ESPN didn’t cover it either.

In the end, anthem protests won’t kill the NFL. CTE possibly will unless there is some sort of major breakthrough to prevent/treat it. Anything that distracts from that helps.

I’ll take off my tinfoil hat now.

BWillie 07-19-2018 09:44 AM

Look at me, look at me, I want attention, look at me.

Eleazar 07-19-2018 09:55 AM

Fine the first time, and then suspensions without pay will start. I'm guessing his qualms about America will subside after that.

tooge 07-19-2018 09:58 AM

And this is why this shit continues. Let it go. Don't report it. Don't talk about it. Don't show it on TV. It'll fade away.

fan4ever 07-19-2018 10:07 AM

At this point I'd imagine his "protest" has more to do with the league telling him what he can or can't do versus any social commentary.

BWillie 07-19-2018 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tooge (Post 13635246)
And this is why this shit continues. Let it go. Don't report it. Don't talk about it. Don't show it on TV. It'll fade away.

The news networks are trying to piss you off, it makes you tune in and get ratings.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 07-19-2018 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 13634866)
"It is what it is, at the end of the day, I don't pay no mind to it. I'm going to do what I do that's going to bring light to my community. ... I will continue to use my platform to keep on speaking up."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000940855/article/jurrell-casey-plans-to-protest-on-field-during-anthem

Social consciousness is wonderful if done correctly. The audience he seems to thrive for would probably respond better to a different approach. He is in country music mecca & this not the right way to go

Chiefnj2 07-19-2018 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 13635010)
Nothing will change his old neighborhood quite like raising a fist. Boy, that'll get things done. :rolleyes:
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"Already, the two have created the Casey Fund, a nonprofit organization dedicated to raising money for re-entry programs, inner-city youth programs, mentoring, halfway houses and other projects."

Looks like he's trying to arrange awareness in a multitude of ways.

loochy 07-19-2018 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 13635309)
"Already, the two have created the Casey Fund, a nonprofit organization dedicated to raising money for re-entry programs, inner-city youth programs, mentoring, halfway houses and other projects."

Looks like he's trying to arrange awareness in a multitude of ways.

That's good. Does his fist or belligerence tell me how or make me want to donate?
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vailpass 07-19-2018 11:18 AM

BFD.
Just don't televise the anthem this year. Or, when the anthem is playing keep the camera focused on the stadium flag.

Chiefs4TheWin 07-19-2018 03:38 PM

Good for him. Moving on.

Flying High D 07-19-2018 04:33 PM

How would like to wake up with his butt in your face?

BigCatDaddy 07-19-2018 04:38 PM

Looks like the Fins are laying the smack down.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2...cording-report

New World Order 07-19-2018 04:42 PM

Go Dolphins

Pablo 07-19-2018 04:46 PM

I just want them to cast Jurrell as the lead in 'Roseanne' and let him use that show as his social platform. Everybody wins!

Kiimo 07-19-2018 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 13635376)
BFD.
Just don't televise the anthem this year. Or, when the anthem is playing keep the camera focused on the stadium flag.

Or stop playing the anthem for absolutely no discernible reason before football games.

Pablo 07-19-2018 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 13635856)
Or stop playing the anthem for absolutely no discernible reason before football games.

I bet you wish they'd stop doing the 'Budweiser Hero of the Game' camera too, huh??

Otter 07-19-2018 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 13635376)
BFD.
Just don't televise the anthem this year. Or, when the anthem is playing keep the camera focused on the stadium flag.

That would work if there weren't 80k ish fans in the stadium that payed a couple hundred dollars to view their team play football. These assholes need to leave their personal life at home just like everyone else.</br></br> Incremental fines, punishment with eventual dismissal from the league without compensation.

Pablo 07-19-2018 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter (Post 13635859)
That would work if there weren't 80k ish fans in the stadium that payed a couple hundred dollars to view their team play football. These assholes need to leave their personal life at home just like everyone else.</br></br> Incremental fines, punishment with eventual dismissal from the league without compensation.

Do they not play the game anymore if a player protests? This a new thing for 2018?

Otter 07-19-2018 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 13635862)
Do they not play the game anymore if a player protests? This a new thing for 2018?

Sure do.</br></br>And their employer, the NFL, who asked them to stop protesting pays them handsomely to play.</br></br>I'm not going to play ring around the rosie on this subject again. Find a new employer if you don't like the rules of the guy who signs your paycheck.

petegz28 07-19-2018 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 13635040)
Talking about it on the radio today. Michelle Tafoya is on KQRS Minneapolis in the mornings.

The other host Tom Barnard said "What if the network just does not show the anthem or any of the protests?"

She said "We have to document what we see. If someone is doing this-we show it. We have to."

It will be posted on KQRS soon. Started talking about it about 8:35 am.

It sounds like Tafoya is tired of the whole thing too.

No, they don't HAVE TO.....what a dumb thing for her to say

ThaVirus 07-19-2018 05:33 PM

As long as tens of millions of pussies are getting hurt over this issue, they'll keep reporting it.

You made this bed, snowflakes. Now lie in it.

Rain Man 07-19-2018 05:36 PM

Maybe while he's kneeling, he can read a grammar book.

WhawhaWhat 07-19-2018 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter (Post 13635866)
Find a new employer if you don't like the rules of the guy who signs your paycheck.

Those rules have to be collectively bargained and this rule was not.

Chief Roundup 07-19-2018 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 13635849)
Looks like the Fins are laying the smack down.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2...cording-report

Read a little more.

Miami Dolphins players who protest on the field during the national anthem reportedly could be suspended for up to four games under a team policy issued this week.

The "Proper Anthem Conduct" section is just one sentence in a nine-page discipline document provided to The Associated Press by a person familiar with the policy who insisted on anonymity because the document is not public. It classifies anthem protests under a large list of "conduct detrimental to the club," all of which could lead to a paid or unpaid suspension, a fine, or both.


In a statement, the Dolphins confirmed they sent the NFL the document, without offering specifics on what plains it laid out.

"The NFL required each team to submit their rules regarding the anthem before their players reported to training camp," the team said. "We will address this issue once the season starts. All options are still open.''

Sources told ESPN's Jeff Darlington that the Dolphins have not made any internal decisions about the extent to which players will be disciplined for those protests. In addition, a league source said that the Dolphins' submission of potential discipline is standard protocol followed by every team before training camp opens. The Dolphins are among the first to have players (rookies, in this case) report to camp, and so they were among the first to be required to submit the mandatory paperwork.

On the Dolphins' side, sources say that by submitting the paperwork, they are merely delaying their decision on how to handle player discipline for protesting during the anthem. By submitting maximum penalties, they can easily tailor those back. But once the paperwork is submitted, it is the team's understanding that you can't increase potential discipline for conduct detrimental. One source said there is no expectation that a player will be suspended four games -- listed as the maximum possible penalty -- for protesting during the anthem.

Miami's anthem policy comes after the NFL decided in May that teams would be fined if players didn't stand during the national anthem while on the field. The league left it up to teams on how to punish players. None of the team policies has been made public.

The NFL rule forbids players from sitting or taking a knee if they are on the field or sideline during the anthem, but allows them to stay in the locker room if they wish. The new league rules were challenged this month in a grievance by the players union.

Any team that wants to discipline its players would have to do so under the "conduct detrimental" portion of the collective bargaining agreement.
Miami Dolphins Arian Foster (29), Kenny Stills (10) and Michael Thomas (31) kneel during the national anthem before a game against the New England Patriots in 2016. AP Photo/Steven Senne, File

The specific punishment that a team would be able to hand out according to the CBA states, "Conduct detrimental to Club -- maximum fine of an amount equal to one week's salary and/or suspension without pay for a period not to exceed four (4) weeks."

Wide receiver Kenny Stills, safety Michael Thomas and tight end Julius Thomas knelt during the anthem several times during the 2017 season. Only Stills is with the team now, as Michael Thomas signed with the New York Giants and Julius Thomas was released. The Dolphins also added defensive end Robert Quinn in a trade with the Los Angeles Rams in March. Quinn has raised his fist in protest during the anthem the past two years.

The NFL declined to comment to the Associated Press.

The NFLPA said earlier this month that the NFL policy, which the league imposed without consultation with the players union, is inconsistent with the collective bargaining agreement and infringes on player rights. The filing will be heard by an independent arbitrator, an NFLPA spokesman said.

When the league announced the policy, commissioner Roger Goodell called it a compromise aimed at putting the focus back on football after a tumultuous year in which television ratings dipped nearly 10 percent.

The union said when it filed the grievance that it proposed having its executive committee talk to the NFL instead of litigating. The union said the NFL agreed to those discussions.

Each of the league's 31 other teams will also need to submit similar paperwork in the coming days.

Chief Roundup 07-19-2018 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter (Post 13635866)
Sure do.</br></br>And their employer, the NFL, who asked them to stop protesting pays them handsomely to play.</br></br>I'm not going to play ring around the rosie on this subject again. Find a new employer if you don't like the rules of the guy who signs your paycheck.

The NFLPA said earlier this month that the NFL policy, which the league imposed without consultation with the players union, is inconsistent with the collective bargaining agreement and infringes on player rights. The filing will be heard by an independent arbitrator, an NFLPA spokesman said.

I think you need to learn a little more about a persons rights in the constitution. No employer can infringe on a employees personal rights.

Al Bundy 07-19-2018 06:08 PM

Great another bunch of faux outrage from out of shape racist white guys. If you that bothered by someone kneeling during a song go **** right off.

Flying High D 07-19-2018 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 13635918)
The NFLPA said earlier this month that the NFL policy, which the league imposed without consultation with the players union, is inconsistent with the collective bargaining agreement and infringes on player rights. The filing will be heard by an independent arbitrator, an NFLPA spokesman said.

I think you need to learn a little more about a persons rights in the constitution. No employer can infringe on a employees personal rights.

Somebody hasn’t served in the military. You have right to free speech. How does your employer feel about that? You have the right. You also have can suffer the consequences of those rights.

Flying High D 07-19-2018 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 13635895)
Maybe while he's kneeling, he can read a grammar book.


http://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/...15&oe=5BD17AC3

Kiimo 07-19-2018 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 13635858)
I bet you wish they'd stop doing the 'Budweiser Hero of the Game' camera too, huh??

ban budweiser

Chiefs4TheWin 07-19-2018 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 13635938)
ban budweiser

I don't think there's too many people that'd disagree with that statement lol!

Al Bundy 07-19-2018 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter (Post 13635859)
That would work if there weren't 80k ish fans in the stadium that payed a couple hundred dollars to view their team play football. These assholes need to leave their personal life at home just like everyone else.</br></br> Incremental fines, punishment with eventual dismissal from the league without compensation.

Those people need to get over it and look solely at the flag. Instead of what most fans do and drink beer and yell the teams name at the end of the anthem.

ChiTown 07-19-2018 06:23 PM

Interestingly enough, this won’t affect my viewing of any NFL Games one iota. So, ZFG.

Chief Roundup 07-19-2018 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flying High D (Post 13635931)
Somebody hasn’t served in the military. You have right to free speech. How does your employer feel about that? You have the right. You also have can suffer the consequences of those rights.

And they can be sued and will settle the dispute quickly.

vailpass 07-19-2018 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otter (Post 13635859)
That would work if there weren't 80k ish fans in the stadium that payed a couple hundred dollars to view their team play football. These assholes need to leave their personal life at home just like everyone else.</br></br> Incremental fines, punishment with eventual dismissal from the league without compensation.

I did a bad job there of simply saying they shouldn’t show the “protesters” on tv while they are kneeling.

vailpass 07-19-2018 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 13635856)
Or stop playing the anthem for absolutely no discernible reason before football games.

Kalifornia values. Nice.

JakeF 07-19-2018 07:10 PM

It's not HIS PLATFORM, its the America platform. America was built on the platform of peaceful protest. People always seem to want Freedom of Expression for things they approve of but not for things they don't.

bdj23 07-19-2018 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nzoner (Post 13634991)
:thumb:

This just gives me more willpower in taking a giant step away from this league.

This

If i wasn't a FF comish and the champion of two of my leagues, id kiss the NFL goodbye.

This franchise aint ever winning anything anyway.

HemiEd 07-20-2018 04:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nzoner (Post 13634991)
:thumb:

This just gives me more willpower in taking a giant step away from this league.

Yep.

The NFL is losing out with the younger generations to watching video game competition.

Now they are going to continue to piss off us old farts.

It is eating itself with this crap.


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