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'Hamas' Jenkins 07-30-2018 05:36 PM

****Official 2018 Missouri Tigers Football Thread****
 
The beginning of the 2018 season is a little under five weeks away. Missouri enters the year projected to finish 4th in the East, and may be a borderline Top 25 team according to some projection systems. After a disappointing recruiting cycle last year, pressure is on Odom to restock the cupboard after the senior years of Lock and Beckner, who will go down as two of the better Tigers in history and likely first round draft picks.

Schedule:

Spoiler!


Recruiting:

Spoiler!


At this point, the class is ranked 68-69 nationally by Rivals and 24/7. Odom is going to have to rely on Pinkel's diamond-in-the-rough approach. It looks like they've pulled back considerably from Georgia, focusing more upon Texas, which is what they should have always done. Unfortunately, they've done horrific in-state, and I think that will likely end up being the nail in Odom's coffin after the 2019 season.

12/19 Update: A strong finish late in the cycle moved the class up significantly. Securing commitments from grad transfer Kelly Bryant and TCU transfer Shawn Robinson has solidified the QB position in the short and intermediate term. A class that was ranked in the 60's at the beginning of the season is now a top 20-30 class factoring in transfers.

Hamas' Crystal Ball: 8-4; 4-4 in the SEC (wins vs. Ark, Tenn, Vandy, Kentucky)

Simply Red 07-30-2018 05:38 PM

UGA is relatively concerned about having to go to Columbia. I heard it on the radio a few times.

Spott 07-30-2018 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 13650915)
UGA is relatively concerned about having to go to Columbia. I heard it on the radio a few times.

They are probably just worried that they’ll show up in the wrong Columbia.

banecat 07-30-2018 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spott (Post 13650948)
They are probably just worried that they’ll show up in the wrong Columbia.

Their mascot would be either kidnapped and held for ransom, or eaten once they landed in Bogota

Sassy Squatch 07-30-2018 06:03 PM

Don't have any hope for this team after that abortion against Texas.

BryanBusby 07-30-2018 06:07 PM

5 wins

First 2 games, Memphis, Vandy and Arky. Odom is fired. They got lucky with a run of teams that had packed it in.

Dooley a downgrade at OC.

Priest31kc 07-30-2018 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13650954)
Don't have any hope for this team after that abortion against Texas.

That game was a real downer. Really wanted to beat those ****ers.

Sassy Squatch 07-30-2018 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Priest31kc (Post 13650964)
That game was a real downer. Really wanted to beat those ****ers.

The ****ing PUNTER got MVP. What a Mizzou way to **** things up. Hopefully the interim piece of shit who called plays for that game was fired on the spot.

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-30-2018 06:25 PM

I don't have a ton of faith in Dooley, but I think that Lock, his weapons, and the DL is good enough to get this team to .500 in conference. Next year is the year where I think it bottoms out with a 2-3 win season.

Titty Meat 07-30-2018 09:23 PM

****ing pumped for this season.

IMO you let the wrong coach go to UCF. Odom should have gone and made Huepel your HC.

Best22 07-30-2018 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13651229)
****ing pumped for this season.

IMO you let the wrong coach go to UCF. Odom should have gone and made Huepel your HC.

Nah, we should have just hired Saban

DJ's left nut 07-30-2018 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13651229)
****ing pumped for this season.

IMO you let the wrong coach go to UCF. Odom should have gone and made Huepel your HC.

By many MANY accounts, Huepel is a massive asshole. Anybody that talks about him around town can barely stand him.

That's fine for a coordinator but it won't work for a HC.

Pitt Gorilla 07-30-2018 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 13650989)
I don't have a ton of faith in Dooley, but I think that Lock, his weapons, and the DL is good enough to get this team to .500 in conference. Next year is the year where I think it bottoms out with a 2-3 win season.

lock’s weapons are significant. The RBs and TE are outstanding. The line and WR are very good. Only safety, CB, and to some extent, DE worry me.

patteeu 07-31-2018 06:03 AM

My Tennessee friends are feeding me a lot of negativity about Derek Dooley. Does anyone know anything about what he did or how good he was at it before he became the Volunteers head coach?

Spott 07-31-2018 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 13651428)
My Tennessee friends are feeding me a lot of negativity about Derek Dooley. Does anyone know anything about what he did or how good he was at it before he became the Volunteers head coach?

IIRC, he was the coach at Louisiana Tech before going to coach at UT right after Fulmer left. There seemed to be a lot of criticism about the hire when it happened.

bowener 07-31-2018 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 13650915)
UGA is relatively concerned about having to go to Columbia. I heard it on the radio a few times.

Why? They are stacked and their future is ****ing disgusting. They are going to end up with at least 10 recruits in the top 100 this year. I think their backfield is currently average 5 stars, and I'm not actually joking. If they don't win a championship in the next 3 years it should be a disappointment.

edit:

If Odom underperforms this year, what does his future look like and what does the teams?

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-31-2018 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 13651428)
My Tennessee friends are feeding me a lot of negativity about Derek Dooley. Does anyone know anything about what he did or how good he was at it before he became the Volunteers head coach?

He's a clown

alpha_omega 07-31-2018 09:47 AM

Ouch. At Alabama on Homecoming.

BryanBusby 07-31-2018 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spott (Post 13651465)
IIRC, he was the coach at Louisiana Tech before going to coach at UT right after Fulmer left. There seemed to be a lot of criticism about the hire when it happened.

The hire was made simply because UT wanted an anti-Fulmer. He was far from qualified.

He than got a lot of of shit for wearing orange slacks on gamedays, looking like a cartoon character. They still have yet to dig themselves out of the hole that he and late era Fulmer put them in.

jjchieffan 07-31-2018 12:51 PM

That's a great birthday present for me. Gettyto watch my Tigers get embarrassed by Crimson Tide. Ugh! I think that I will have better things to do on my birthday than watch that. I bet they lose by 50 points.

'Hamas' Jenkins 08-01-2018 10:13 PM

Hopefully Meyer's shitshow at tOSU convinces Washington to commit to Mizzou.

Pitt Gorilla 08-01-2018 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 13655286)
Hopefully Meyer's shitshow at tOSU convinces Washington to commit to Mizzou.

Honestly, I think he was already coming to Mizzou.

Titty Meat 08-02-2018 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13651300)
By many MANY accounts, Huepel is a massive asshole. Anybody that talks about him around town can barely stand him.

That's fine for a coordinator but it won't work for a HC.

The more I think about this I have to challenge it. You obviously live around there and follow the program more closely but an asshole in what sense? Like it would destroy recruiting? Though I'd argue Odoms recruiting has been mediocre at best.

Coaches that come to mind who were assholes: Leach, Pelini, Mangino, Miles and PJ Fleck. All had success.

I hate to bring this up but is it a campus culture thing from the protest a few years ago?

At any rate Huepel did alot with Mizzous offense and I think he has a Heisman candidate with Milton. He also has Randy Shannon as his DC. As a MU fan I'd take that over the current regime.

OmahaChief 08-02-2018 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13655398)
The more I think about this I have to challenge it. You obviously live around there and follow the program more closely but an asshole in what sense? Like it would destroy recruiting? Though I'd argue Odoms recruiting has been mediocre at best.

Coaches that come to mind who were assholes: Leach, Pelini, Mangino, Miles and PJ Fleck. All had success.

I hate to bring this up but is it a campus culture thing from the protest a few years ago?

At any rate Huepel did alot with Mizzous offense and I think he has a Heisman candidate with Milton. He also has Randy Shannon as his DC. As a MU fan I'd take that over the current regime.

A few things here. Heupel is an asshole. This is coming from a buddy of mine that was an Assistant Athletic Director while Josh was at OU. Complete douche to most people is what I am told.

As for Randy Shannon. He has not been relevant in years and there are reasons why. He fails to evolve with the times. He used to be a decent DC but is a shell of what he once was. There is a reason he is where he is.

Archie Bunker 08-02-2018 02:31 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">177% COMMITTED❗️<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SHOWME?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SHOWME</a>�� <a href="https://t.co/glzZwO4ugj">pic.twitter.com/glzZwO4ugj</a></p>&mdash; Thalen Robinson (@RobintheThalen) <a href="https://twitter.com/RobintheThalen/status/1025093931237892097?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 2, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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Jewish Rabbi 08-02-2018 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archie Bunker (Post 13656554)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">177% COMMITTED❗️<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SHOWME?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SHOWME</a>�� <a href="https://t.co/glzZwO4ugj">pic.twitter.com/glzZwO4ugj</a></p>&mdash; Thalen Robinson (@RobintheThalen) <a href="https://twitter.com/RobintheThalen/status/1025093931237892097?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 2, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<iframe width="300" height="150" frameborder="1" src="https://n.rivals.com/content/prospect_cards/211457"></iframe>

I’m not sure about his math skills.

patteeu 08-02-2018 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archie Bunker (Post 13656554)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">177% COMMITTED❗️<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SHOWME?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SHOWME</a>�� <a href="https://t.co/glzZwO4ugj">pic.twitter.com/glzZwO4ugj</a></p>&mdash; Thalen Robinson (@RobintheThalen) <a href="https://twitter.com/RobintheThalen/status/1025093931237892097?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 2, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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What happened to the other 13%?!!

BryanBusby 08-02-2018 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 13656568)
I’m not sure about his math skills.

Looks SEC-worthy to me

DJ's left nut 08-02-2018 03:49 PM

I think I read that dude is something like 6'8'', 300 lbs.

That's a damn mountain of a human being...

EDIT: Okay, so the Rivals thing says 6'7'' 315; reading is fundamental. Still - that's massive.

Archie Bunker 08-02-2018 03:55 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Due to everything happening in college football right now my family &amp; I have decided it’s best I delay my commitment date and reopen my recruitment fully....</p>&mdash; Marcus Washington (@_MarcusW11) <a href="https://twitter.com/_MarcusW11/status/1025126081639211009?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 2, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

And now time for the nut punch

DJ's left nut 08-02-2018 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archie Bunker (Post 13656728)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Due to everything happening in college football right now my family &amp; I have decided it’s best I delay my commitment date and reopen my recruitment fully....</p>&mdash; Marcus Washington (@_MarcusW11) <a href="https://twitter.com/_MarcusW11/status/1025126081639211009?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 2, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

And now time for the nut punch

That's good news.

Because if hes re-opening his commitment, it wasn't Mizzou.

Maybe this gets us back in the door.

'Hamas' Jenkins 08-02-2018 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13656879)
That's good news.

Because if hes re-opening his commitment, it wasn't Mizzou.

Maybe this gets us back in the door.

But if he's re-opening, Mizzou wasn't #1, and isn't a strong enough #2 for him to make a commitment.

OKchiefs 08-02-2018 09:16 PM

Don't need anyone dumb enough to seriously consider OSU. Ezekiel Elliot turned out to be a dumbass, I expect no different here.

BryanBusby 08-02-2018 10:57 PM

Way too much effort being spent predicting what a dumbass kid is thinking.

Get tore up->pussy. The End.

Titty Meat 08-02-2018 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13657301)
Way too much effort being spent predicting what a dumbass kid is thinking.

Get tore up->pussy. The End.

Calling the kid a dumbass is harsh. Cameron Brown for example committed to Mike Riley and then Urban Meyer. I feel sorry for the kid because he can play on Sundays. Maybe it's the folks guiding these kids that are the dumbasses?

BryanBusby 08-03-2018 03:26 AM

All kids are dumb.

DJ's left nut 08-03-2018 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 13657206)
But if he's re-opening, Mizzou wasn't #1, and isn't a strong enough #2 for him to make a commitment.

That's my point, though. If things stayed on that course, Mizzou was out. Yeah, it would be better to just hear that he committed but at least this keeps them alive.

That said - I'm pretty sure he was just attention whoring. If he was so gung-ho about OSU that when shit hit the fan he didn't turn to his #2 but rather just re-opened recruiting, that tells me his #2 was just a token #2. The only reason he built it up the way he did was to get the local media more interested.

If he'd have said it was coming down to OSU and, say, Alabama - nobody in the STL area would've really given a shit. He included Mizzou in the 'race' so he could get attention from the hometown paper, IMO.

Archie Bunker 08-03-2018 01:42 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WAIT IS OVER ...... 210% committed 1st in the family 2 do.. it love you momma �� <a href="https://t.co/KliMyU7IEY">pic.twitter.com/KliMyU7IEY</a></p>&mdash; FAC✖️TOR (@xfactormaurice) <a href="https://twitter.com/xfactormaurice/status/1025465409645039618?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 3, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Good news

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BWillie 08-03-2018 02:41 PM

I just snorted a line of coke off of a stripper named Destiny's ass with Matty Mauk. He talked me into flying to Utah to have some Shirley temples with Quin Synder. We'll get him off his Mormon highhorse and into relapse.

Simply Red 08-03-2018 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bowener (Post 13651480)
Why? They are stacked and their future is ****ing disgusting. They are going to end up with at least 10 recruits in the top 100 this year. I think their backfield is currently average 5 stars, and I'm not actually joking. If they don't win a championship in the next 3 years it should be a disappointment.

edit:

If Odom underperforms this year, what does his future look like and what does the teams?


Don't really know - Just saying what I'd heard them discussing - I think they're concerned about Lock going downfield over and over.

DJ's left nut 08-03-2018 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13655398)
The more I think about this I have to challenge it. You obviously live around there and follow the program more closely but an asshole in what sense? Like it would destroy recruiting? Though I'd argue Odoms recruiting has been mediocre at best.

Coaches that come to mind who were assholes: Leach, Pelini, Mangino, Miles and PJ Fleck. All had success.

I hate to bring this up but is it a campus culture thing from the protest a few years ago?

At any rate Huepel did alot with Mizzous offense and I think he has a Heisman candidate with Milton. He also has Randy Shannon as his DC. As a MU fan I'd take that over the current regime.

No, just that he was extremely smug and haughty. Acted like his shit didn't stink and that he was simply better than having to re-group like this after being let go at OU.

He wasn't in the Bobby Knight school of ferocious red-asses. He was more in that Lane Kiffin vein of condescending pricks.

It was said to be wearing thin within the organization.

'Hamas' Jenkins 08-03-2018 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13657558)

That said - I'm pretty sure he was just attention whoring. If he was so gung-ho about OSU that when shit hit the fan he didn't turn to his #2 but rather just re-opened recruiting, that tells me his #2 was just a token #2. .

We're not disagreeing on that at all. That's what I found disconcerting about it. It wasn't that Mizzou was a solid #2, but a token #2.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-01-2018 02:05 PM

Well, times up, let's do this...

https://i.imgur.com/3L9vyNi.gif

KChiefs1 09-01-2018 02:27 PM

Should win by 60...if they don’t they have major problems.

Sassy Squatch 09-01-2018 02:29 PM

LMAO That stat line they showed for Mizzou vs. winning teams and losing teams was horrific.

Sassy Squatch 09-01-2018 02:33 PM

Jesus. A 34 year old punter and he's ****ing awful.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-01-2018 02:36 PM

Mizzou guys might need new cleats. They are slipping like mother****ers in their cuts.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-01-2018 02:48 PM

Offense looks competent, which is all you can hope for in a game like this.

Pitt Gorilla 09-01-2018 02:57 PM

Mizzou is looking good. Compared to how they started last year, it’s like night and day.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-01-2018 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 13703933)
Mizzou is looking good. Compared to how they started last year, it’s like night and day.

With the size and experience of the OL, I like that they are scaling back the bomb chucking, running shorter routes, and running downhill. It obviously remains to be seen how it will work against higher end talent, but it's certainly better than Joe Jon Cousin****er.

Pitt Gorilla 09-01-2018 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 13703937)
With the size and experience of the OL, I like that they are scaling back the bomb chucking, running shorter routes, and running downhill. It obviously remains to be seen how it will work against higher end talent, but it's certainly better than Joe Jon Cousin****er.

Eh, just let Lock call the plays.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-01-2018 03:14 PM

That was a perfect throw to Hall and he didn't even step into it.

Pitt Gorilla 09-01-2018 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 13703957)
That was a perfect throw to Hall and he didn't even step into it.

Hall's juggling act cost him the TD.

Frazod 09-01-2018 03:41 PM

****, forgot this was on. :cuss:

Pitt Gorilla 09-01-2018 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 13704031)
****, forgot this was on. :cuss:

Going to be a lot of backups in the second half, given the new redshirt rule.

BryanBusby 09-01-2018 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 13703933)
Mizzou is looking good. Compared to how they started last year, it’s like night and day.

Steckel had a hell of a lot to play for in that game. Tennessee-Martin just has a lovely payday to secure.

KChiefs1 09-01-2018 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 13704057)
Going to be a lot of backups in the second half, given the new redshirt rule.


Anyone special to keep an eye on?

Pitt Gorilla 09-01-2018 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 13704065)
Anyone special to keep an eye on?

Badie and Gicento, but both have already played. Young linebackers are good and backup safeties should be interesting. Backup QB will be interesting as well.

Badie and Gicento, interestingly enough, were both ** recruits playing as true freshmen. THAT is what Mizzou does well.

Frazod 09-01-2018 04:03 PM

Damn that was pretty.

Pitt Gorilla 09-01-2018 04:05 PM

And Cam Scott, evidently.

Archie Bunker 09-01-2018 04:39 PM

These freshman receivers are fun.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-08-2018 05:45 PM

OL has not played as well as you would hope to start the year, which has made it hard for the backs to get anything going.

This Wyoming offense is not good, but the defense is displaying good discipline and tackling. I have not cared for Mizzou's situational playcalling/decisions to this point.

TomBarndtsTwin 09-08-2018 06:01 PM

So, people were right about Derek Dooley. He’s sucks as an OC. Terrible play calling so far in this one. Mizzou should be up at least 17-0 by now . . . .

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-08-2018 06:04 PM

It's a good thing their QB sucks.

BryanBusby 09-08-2018 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 13715525)
So, people were right about Derek Dooley. He’s sucks as an OC. Terrible play calling so far in this one. Mizzou should be up at least 17-0 by now . . . .

That was the easiest thing to figure out all year. There was a reason Dooley was nothing more than a position coach after Tenn fired him.

Perineum Ripper 09-08-2018 06:08 PM

Watching the game in person makes me really happy I got the tickets for free

Offense has been bad, defense has done decent, our kicker can’t kick a field goal to save the Virgin Mary

Sassy Squatch 09-08-2018 06:09 PM

That should've been gone.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-08-2018 06:13 PM

Good drive. Nice to see them get more aggressive with intermediate and deeper routes there rather than waiting to run twice and put themselves in 3rd and long.

BryanBusby 09-08-2018 06:17 PM

Wyoming was too aggressive on D when they had Mizzou pinned deep

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-08-2018 06:29 PM

Hall is going in for dry anal on the Wyoming CBs.

dirk digler 09-08-2018 06:32 PM

Nice TD

Lol what a wild play on that busted XP

Sassy Squatch 09-08-2018 06:33 PM

What the **** was that?

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-08-2018 06:34 PM

Kicking game has been atrocious today.

BryanBusby 09-08-2018 06:34 PM

WatchESPN refuses to let me watch anymore

Oh well

dirk digler 09-08-2018 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13715579)
What the **** was that?

KU football

Frazod 09-08-2018 06:40 PM

The "We've Got A Game Today?" award definitely goes to the Missouri offense. At least they finally woke up late in the second quarter. :shake:

BryanBusby 09-08-2018 06:46 PM

well someone let me know what the end result is since I can't watch tia

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-08-2018 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 13715599)
The "We've Got A Game Today?" award definitely goes to the Missouri offense. At least they finally woke up late in the second quarter. :shake:

You're obviously not checking in on the Cards game.

Frazod 09-08-2018 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 13715627)
You're obviously not checking in on the Cards game.

No. I've pretty much accepted that the wheels have fallen off.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-08-2018 07:04 PM

I don't think the OL is good enough at run blocking to use it to set up the pass, but the passing offense is good enough to protect Lock and get the gains necessary to set up the run, which is how their offense should be predicated.


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