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Hog's Gone Fishin 10-01-2018 05:58 AM

Ben Niemann Ready to play
 
Looks like he was full practice last 3 days. This changes everything. 2 picks for him tonight.

BigBeauford 10-01-2018 06:24 AM

We need linebackers who can cover. He might fit the bill.

carcosa 10-01-2018 06:48 AM

Oh baby I hope he's a game changer!!;

CaliforniaChief 10-01-2018 07:07 AM

Niemann's a nice surprise. Glad he's back.

oldman 10-01-2018 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBeauford (Post 13777180)
We need linebackers who can cover. He might fit the bill.

And can tackle.

htismaqe 10-01-2018 07:20 AM

Niemann and Hitchens out there together...go Hawks!

Chiefs Moon 10-01-2018 07:23 AM

Add O'Daniel and we might have the speed to cover the middle of the field.

htismaqe 10-01-2018 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs Moon (Post 13777255)
Add O'Daniel and we might have the speed to cover the middle of the field.

Eric Murray says hello...

old_geezer 10-01-2018 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by oldman (Post 13777237)
And can tackle.

I've been angry all season about the Chief's inability to tackle. As I was flipping channels yesterday watching several games I realized it isn't a Chiefs problem, it's a league-wide problem. They (the NFL) need to get back to basics. To paraphrase Casey Stengel, "Can't anybody in this league tackle?".

nychief 10-01-2018 07:41 AM

Great white hype.

prhom 10-01-2018 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by old_geezer (Post 13777279)
I've been angry all season about the Chief's inability to tackle. As I was flipping channels yesterday watching several games I realized it isn't a Chiefs problem, it's a league-wide problem. They (the NFL) need to get back to basics. To paraphrase Casey Stengel, "Can't anybody in this league tackle?".

I watched another team give up 3rd and 18 or something like that on a play where the TE caught the ball 8 yds short of the marker and converted it thanks to at least 3 missed tackles. I get what you mean. I thought that kind of play was a KC special, but there are other teams doing the same damn thing.

cabletech94 10-01-2018 07:48 AM

Yuuuuuuge Boner Mode on standby......

htismaqe 10-01-2018 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prhom (Post 13777302)
I watched another team give up 3rd and 18 or something like that on a play where the TE caught the ball 8 yds short of the marker and converted it thanks to at least 3 missed tackles. I get what you mean. I thought that kind of play was a KC special, but there are other teams doing the same damn thing.

Every team does it.

In his game yesterday, Trent Green chastised a team because they DIDN'T do it, the WR got behind the pressure defense and scored to ice the game (pretty sure it was Cincinatti).

carcosa 10-01-2018 08:11 AM

Dude ran a 4.6 40. We should call him Mike Fastlowski.

Sassy Squatch 10-01-2018 08:15 AM

Swap Niemann in for Ragland, Watts in for Murray, and ODaniel in for Smith. Learn by fire while the offense is still rolling.

htismaqe 10-01-2018 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13777391)
Swap Niemann in for Ragland, Watts in for Murray, and ODaniel in for Smith. Learn by fire while the offense is still rolling.

:clap::clap::clap:

smithandrew051 10-01-2018 08:19 AM

Big Dick Ben!

Hog's Gone Fishin 10-01-2018 08:28 AM

I think our defense will just get a little better every week

Titty Meat 10-01-2018 08:37 AM

Hell yeah brother! Cheers from Iraq.

O.city 10-01-2018 08:42 AM

He needs to add bulk obviously, but he's shown more than Ragland IMO in the preseason.

Iconic 10-01-2018 12:04 PM

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Pitt Gorilla 10-01-2018 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13777391)
Swap Niemann in for Ragland, Watts in for Murray, and ODaniel in for Smith. Learn by fire while the offense is still rolling.

Murray played better in Game 3. I wouldn't give up on him quite yet.

Iconic 10-01-2018 12:12 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The highest graded linebackers in the NFL this preseason. <a href="https://t.co/jbhpwPJ5N7">pic.twitter.com/jbhpwPJ5N7</a></p>&mdash; Pro Football Focus (@PFF) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1034829791189524481?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 29, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Iconic 10-01-2018 12:13 PM

I'm calling it now he's our future Luke Kuechly

Halfcan 10-01-2018 12:14 PM

I like this kid. He knows how to hit!

Halfcan 10-01-2018 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 13778060)
I'm calling it now he's our future Luke Kuechly

Ben is obviously football smart like Luke after growing up with a football dad.

htismaqe 10-01-2018 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 13778064)
I like this kid. He knows how to hit!

You'll see one of his teammates on the other side of the ball tonight. Him and Josey Jewell were pretty darn good college linebackers. Smart, disciplined, fundamentally sound. I think Ben could be a real find for the Chiefs honestly. He's no frills, no nonsense. Just a straight up good football player.

ct 10-01-2018 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13777391)
Swap Niemann in for Ragland, Watts in for Murray, and ODaniel in for Smith. Learn by fire while the offense is still rolling.

i approve this message:thumb:

Chris Meck 10-01-2018 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13778070)
You'll see one of his teammates on the other side of the ball tonight. Him and Josey Jewell were pretty darn good college linebackers. Smart, disciplined, fundamentally sound. I think Ben could be a real find for the Chiefs honestly. He's no frills, no nonsense. Just a straight up good football player.

god I hope so.

Simply Red 10-01-2018 12:19 PM

Man him at LB and our new safety Thom..... oh... !!

ptlyon 10-01-2018 12:20 PM

Oh, hi Newman

FAX 10-01-2018 12:21 PM

If you zero-out the physical aspect of the game, defense is about preparation, instinct, and reaction speed.

I have no idea whether or not this guy is good or whatever. Preseason is a completely different game. I do think, however, he's an instinctive player. His past coaches have all said that, Wally has said that, and you can see it in his game.

As a coach's son, he probably knows how to prepare, also. It will be interesting to see how (or if) he takes advantage of his opportunities.

FAX

Simply Red 10-01-2018 12:23 PM

I suspect he'll pick off Denver's QB around 7 or 8 times tonight.

Hog's Gone Fishin 10-01-2018 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 13778087)
Oh, hi Newman



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Sassy Squatch 10-01-2018 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 13778054)
Murray played better in Game 3. I wouldn't give up on him quite yet.

Nah. He's dead to me.

carcosa 10-01-2018 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 13778056)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The highest graded linebackers in the NFL this preseason. <a href="https://t.co/jbhpwPJ5N7">pic.twitter.com/jbhpwPJ5N7</a></p>&mdash; Pro Football Focus (@PFF) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1034829791189524481?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 29, 2018</a></blockquote>
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YAsssss!!

Simply Red 10-01-2018 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 13778132)
YAsssss!!

please read underrated post#33 and reflect.

Hog's Gone Fishin 10-01-2018 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 13778105)
I suspect he'll pick off Denver's QB around 7 or 8 times tonight.

Dude, he's better than that! You only think he'll be in for 8 plays er wut?

oldman 10-01-2018 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13777391)
Swap Niemann in for Ragland, Watts in for Murray, and ODaniel in for Smith. Learn by fire while the offense is still rolling.

Works for me.

IowaHawkeyeChief 10-01-2018 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by old_geezer (Post 13777279)
I've been angry all season about the Chief's inability to tackle. As I was flipping channels yesterday watching several games I realized it isn't a Chiefs problem, it's a league-wide problem. They (the NFL) need to get back to basics. To paraphrase Casey Stengel, "Can't anybody in this league tackle?".


It's hard to practice tackling when you have little to no contact at practices anymore... The tackling seems to get better in week 6 on... but you can't replicate full contact.

Pitt Gorilla 10-01-2018 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13778125)
Nah. He's dead to me.

Why?

Imon Yourside 10-01-2018 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 13778031)
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That hit looks illegal in todays NFL though.

Iowanian 10-01-2018 02:19 PM

he's not a superior freak athlete and he's not going to hit like a monster but he'll find the ball and put a hit on people.


HTisbbq is right that Josey Jewell is a good player and I hated that he went to Denver, but Niemann can play ball. He'll help the Chiefs.

O.city 10-01-2018 02:20 PM

He's pretty small, but damn he does seem to have good instincts. I wanted the Chiefs to pick up Dylan Cole from MSU, local kid from here in Springfield. Dude was undersized but a freak athlete with good instincts.

Seems that's a much bigger deal at ILB than I thought.

carcosa 10-01-2018 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 13778461)
he's not a superior freak athlete and he's not going to hit like a monster but he'll find the ball and put a hit on people.


HTisbbq is right that Josey Jewell is a good player and I hated that he went to Denver, but Niemann can play ball. He'll help the Chiefs.

4.6 40 for Niemann though... so pretty good athleticism still

O.city 10-01-2018 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 13778461)
he's not a superior freak athlete and he's not going to hit like a monster but he'll find the ball and put a hit on people.


HTisbbq is right that Josey Jewell is a good player and I hated that he went to Denver, but Niemann can play ball. He'll help the Chiefs.

Nieman needs an offseason to bulk up, but he just seems to always be in the right spot.

Theres value there.

Simply Red 10-01-2018 02:51 PM

He's not small or undersized, dude - he's an inch shorter than Luke Kuechly and outweighs him by 1 lb. That's plenty of size to be effective at that position.

Simply Red 10-01-2018 02:59 PM

Ray Lewis and Patrick Willis were both 6' 1" and 240

Niemann is 6' 2" 236
Kuechly is 6' 3" 235

Kiimo 10-01-2018 03:01 PM

I admit he looks a lot smaller than those guys but I think it may just be an illusion. If that's his height and weight then good news he has room to build on that frame.

Chris Meck 10-01-2018 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13777391)
Swap Niemann in for Ragland, Watts in for Murray, and ODaniel in for Smith. Learn by fire while the offense is still rolling.

I'd like to see all three get a lot of rotational snaps for sure.

Simply Red 10-01-2018 03:05 PM

the team site has him as 6' 3" 233 - weird. I pulled my first# from NFL.com

Kiimo 10-01-2018 03:05 PM

Now that Eric Reid and Earl Thomas and Bashaud Breeland are no longer options the best we can hope for is one of those guys becomes something.

Simply Red 10-01-2018 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 13778615)
Now that Eric Reid and Earl Thomas and Bashaud Breeland are no longer options the best we can hope for is one of those guys becomes something.

The video above was only one of about 3 or 4 splash plays this Caucasian had in pre-season.

Sassy Squatch 10-01-2018 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 13778420)
Why?

Because he's ****ing awful.

Kiimo 10-01-2018 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 13778619)
The video above was only one of about 3 or 4 splash plays this Caucasian had in pre-season.

Hey man I'm in. Whether he's 6'2 or 6'3 whatever, if he's about 240 and runs a 4.6 AND he's a playmaker...

why the hell was this guy not drafted? I'm hoping he's a diamond.

Because I like how Ragland hits but that guy can NOT cover.

nychief 10-01-2018 03:10 PM

wow... from earl thomas to Ben Iowawhiteguy... we have a new savior.

Simply Red 10-01-2018 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 13778626)
Hey man I'm in. Whether he's 6'2 or 6'3 whatever, if he's about 240 and runs a 4.6 AND he's a playmaker...

why the hell was this guy not drafted? I'm hoping he's a diamond.

Because I like how Ragland hits but that guy can NOT cover.

Give Reg until NE game - he'll get caught up. He is too talented - watched RR a lot in college - he's got the goods - he's literally half a camp behind.

ToxSocks 10-01-2018 03:15 PM

Don't know much about the dude other than he has a knack for making the play.

Lunch pale guy.

Cerebral.

High Motor.

CoMoChief 10-01-2018 03:17 PM

ANYONE other than Terrence ****ing Smith.

Simply Red 10-01-2018 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 13778642)
Don't know much about the dude other than he has a knack for making the play.

Lunch pale guy.

Cerebral.

High Motor.

He's not cute for sure - but he's not ugly.

CoMoChief 10-01-2018 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 13778642)
Don't know much about the dude other than he has a knack for making the play.

Lunch pale guy.

Cerebral.

High Motor.

Rich

****ing

Scanlon

v2.0


Fellas....we're about to have the #1 defense in the history of football.

Kiimo 10-01-2018 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nychief (Post 13778629)
wow... from earl thomas to Ben Iowawhiteguy... we have a new savior.

Ya know I don't mind a white guy at linebacker because...some of the best ones are white.

I buy that way more than a skill position. 4.6 is 4.6

carcosa 10-01-2018 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 13778642)
Don't know much about the dude other than he has a knack for making the play.

Lunch pale guy.

Cerebral.

High Motor.


Lunch PALE guy? Lol

nychief 10-01-2018 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 13778658)
Ya know I don't mind a white guy at linebacker because...some of the best ones are white.

I buy that way more than a skill position. 4.6 is 4.6



Sure. But an UDFA isn’t saving our defense.

Simply Red 10-01-2018 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 13778687)
Lunch PALE guy? Lol

racial

ToxSocks 10-01-2018 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 13778687)
Lunch PALE guy? Lol

hahahaha my bad, but even better.

carcosa 10-01-2018 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nychief (Post 13778697)
Sure. But an UDFA isn’t saving our defense.

But what if he's really really good

Simply Red 10-01-2018 03:37 PM

I think Ben Niemann may wind up being the best LB to ever play football on planet Eart!

htismaqe 10-01-2018 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nychief (Post 13778697)
Sure. But an UDFA isn’t saving our defense.

He might make it better. That's about all we can hope for at this point.

ToxSocks 10-01-2018 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13778729)
He might make it better. That's about all we can hope for at this point.

He has to be better than Terrance Smith.

Right?

right...?

Simply Red 10-01-2018 03:40 PM

I bet they put Sanders outside a lot tonight and I bet Sutton throws Fuller out there w/ him.

Iowanian 10-01-2018 03:41 PM

I'd rather go this far....

Niemann will be an improvement to the ILB depth, will get some productive snaps and make more positive plays than not when he's in the game.

If Ragland is nursing a knee or whatever his issue is that has resulted in his regression, Niemann can do an acceptable job in that spot if needed. His ceiling is taking the position as his own.
I definitely think he's better than Smith or will be with some game reps.

Simply Red 10-01-2018 03:41 PM

sorry a little off-topic

ToxSocks 10-01-2018 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 13778735)
I bet they put Sanders outside a lot tonight and I bet Sutton throw Fuller out there w/ him.

I think it's interesting to note that now that Peters is gone the Chiefs have been moving their corners around.

Not sure if this new development has anything to do with Peters, but interesting still.

Simply Red 10-01-2018 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 13778741)
I think it's interesting to note that now that Peters is gone the Chiefs have been moving their corners around.

Not sure if this new development has anything to do with Peters, but interesting still.

Sutton did that to essentially make the field cut into half - now he's like '**** it - we can't cover shit, either way'

ROFL

booger 10-01-2018 03:43 PM

Ben has been a pleasant surprise. Plays like he has chipmunks constantly biting his nipples

Kiimo 10-01-2018 03:44 PM

https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2018...b-ben-niemann/


What's this 4.6 speed talk? He wasn't invited to the combine and his pro day 40 was 4.75?

Chris Meck 10-01-2018 03:46 PM

well, I mean, at this point barring a miracle trade, our only hope of the defense getting better is that the rookies start to see more snaps. At least we'll see what we need to draft NEXT YEAR.

Which looks at least like: CB, S, and OLB. AGAIN. Is it Sutton or the players? chicken or the egg? Does it matter? Not really. At least play the kids and see what we have. ****ing Eric Murray is terrible. Terrance Smith is terrible. Ragland can't cover anybody. Parker should be a 3rd safety. Whatever. We're actually praying for Sorensen to return, and he's lousy too.

carcosa 10-01-2018 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 13778756)
https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2018...b-ben-niemann/


What's this 4.6 speed talk? He wasn't invited to the combine and his pro day 40 was 4.75?

https://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sp...day/460225002/

Simply Red 10-01-2018 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 13778756)
https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2018...b-ben-niemann/


What's this 4.6 speed talk? He wasn't invited to the combine and his pro day 40 was 4.75?


what they meant was - he's actually 46 yrs old.


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