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Hammock Parties 10-11-2018 06:06 PM

Alex Smith's Garbage MNF Showing Proves Chiefs Were Right to Get Rid of Him
 
https://www.12up.com/posts/6192623-a...partners/40920

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In case you weren't convinced yet, Monday night's primetime game between the ​Washington Redskins and New Orleans Saints proved that the Kansas City Chiefs made the right decision in moving on from quarterback Alex Smith. The Redskins got walloped 43-19, and Smith's performance was predictably bland. This wasn't just some game for the Skins, either-- this was a "prove it" matchup against a ferocious opponent.

Washington entered best in the NFC East and boasting one of the best defenses in the league, and to make things even more intense, the game was smack in the middle of primetime. And Smith posted 275 yards on 23-39 passing with zero touchdowns and an interception against a New Orleans team ranked 28th in the league in scoring defense.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Classic Alex Smith. Take 4 seconds and then stare down your checkdown so he gets killed before he can catch the ball <a href="https://t.co/U40e9upbem">pic.twitter.com/U40e9upbem</a></p>&mdash; Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/SharpFootball/status/1049455268378157056?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 9, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Meanwhile, in Kansas City, Patrick Mahomes is lighting up the league in Smith's place. The young gun leads the league in touchdown passes with 14 and has been electric from the jump. Of course, the Chiefs moved Smith to Washington after last season not just because they really liked what they had in Mahomes, but because they knew what they didn't have in Smith. And they were entirely right.

Smith is a game manager. He doesn't make a ton of mistakes. He can move a bit. He hits on some deep balls. But what Smith cannot do is take over a game. His arm talent can't hold a candle to that of Mahomes. He can't fire a bullet on the run. He most certainly cannot carry an offense. KC knew that and interpreted his excellent statistics last season as more of a reflection of their offensive scheme and alternative playmakers. While they didn't know that the young Mahomes would be quite this good so early, they were confident enough that he could operate well in their fantastic system. He was younger, cheaper, and from what they saw, more dynamic.

The choice was simple.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Patrick Mahomes is the first quarterback to throw for 300+ yards in the regular season against Jacksonville since last October, snapping a streak of 15 consecutive games.</p>&mdash; Matt McMullen (@KCChiefs_Matt) <a href="https://twitter.com/KCChiefs_Matt/status/1049017904077922304?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 7, 2018</a></blockquote>
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The move paid off with unforeseen levels of success. Mahomes is the leading candidate for MVP thus far, and Smith has as many touchdowns as he has games played (4). There's no debating it. Smith is no franchise quarterback. He won't be carrying anybody to anything. If you want to win with him, you'll have to have everything else on your team be near-perfect.

Whether Mahomes can be the man come the postseason is yet to be seen. But so far, he's making the Kansas City brass look like geniuses for shipping Smith out of town.

TribalElder 10-11-2018 06:17 PM

ROFL it was sad watching that game

SAUTO 10-11-2018 06:20 PM

I watched that game rooting for Smith. He let me down once again

Coochie liquor 10-11-2018 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 13808013)
ROFL it was sad watching that game

Sad I’m the most awesome way possible!

Coochie liquor 10-11-2018 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 13808018)
I watched that game rooting for Smith. He let me down once again

Me too broski!

New World Order 10-11-2018 06:26 PM

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Chiefspants 10-11-2018 06:27 PM

It’s a game we’ve watched several times (@Pitt in 2016 burns the brightest), but once Smith is down by 2 scores - you don’t see his back against the wall, you see the checkdowns continue like business as usual.

stevieray 10-11-2018 06:27 PM

Redskins Planet.

MVChiefFan 10-11-2018 06:27 PM

I’m so glad that all of the media idiots that bashed us for moving Alex are eating massive fistfuls of crow. It makes the Chiefs look like they know exactly what they’re doing.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-11-2018 06:29 PM

His performance has really amplified how much Reid did to elevate him (and has likely done with Mahomes as well). He truly is a QB's best friend.

FloridaMan88 10-11-2018 06:29 PM

ROFL

Credit to Redskins fans for not buying into the Baby Lee-ish bullshit that Alex Smith is a “winner”, highlighted by the fact the Redskins’ stadium was half empty for their season opener earlier this season.

They know Alex Smith=No Hope.

TribalElder 10-11-2018 06:36 PM

Redskins brought in Alex to teach the QB they will be drafting ROFL

Hammock Parties 10-11-2018 06:42 PM

This one's good, too. Regression to the mean.

Alex Smith can help the Redskins win a lot of games. But he’s not going to carry them.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...=.4b31ceabdb47

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The Washington Redskins made a bold call when they decided that Kirk Cousins wasn’t worth the huge contract he was chasing and instead traded for Alex Smith to lead their offense. Smith currently has a grade of 67.7, good for 25th among quarterbacks in Pro Football Focus’ rankings, compared to Cousins’s 83.9, which ranks 10th.

With only five weeks of the season played, that number alone does not tell us whether the team made the right call (nor can it get into Cousins’s role in his departure from Washington to the Minnesota Vikings, or the financial advantages to the Redskins of having Smith over Cousins).

But it does give us a sense of Smith’s shaky start with his new team, and a deeper dive into the stats reveals a truth that has been apparent for much of Smith’s career: He has the ability to help his team win a lot of games, but he is unlikely to be able to carry it.

Smith is coming off the worst game of his Washington career, struggling badly against the Saints on Monday night, earning a grade of 60.1, the lowest of his season.

The outcome was reflective of one of the main differences between Smith and Cousins. While both recorded remarkably similar grades over the three previous seasons — Cousins earned an 80.5 in Washington, while Smith recorded a 79.9 in Kansas City — they got there in different ways. Cousins is a far more volatile player, while Smith is a very conservative passer who excels in the game-manager role.

There is strategy to that dynamic for teams to consider. At times, the guy who is less likely to cost you the game with mistakes is the more desirable leader of your offense. The problem comes in games such as Monday night’s, and that player then finds himself behind on the scoreboard without the ability to cut into the deficit.

When Smith and the Redskins went three scores down against the Saints, despite the fact that it happened in the second quarter, the game was more or less over, because Smith simply isn’t the kind of quarterback who excels in a shootout — it goes against his style of play. Cousins, on the other hand, has already shown this year with the Vikings that he is capable of executing that kind of comeback, bringing his team back from 17 points down against the Packers in a game that eventually ended in a tie.

For Smith and the Redskins to be successful, they need a specific type of game — and it can’t be a shootout. Since the start of the 2015 season, Smith’s overall grade is 79.9, good for 20th in the NFL. But when he falls behind by seven or more points, that grade plummets to 53.1, which ranks 33rd.

Perhaps the most interesting season of Smith’s career was last year in Kansas City, when he was more aggressive in pushing the ball downfield and achieved a high level of efficiency on those deep throws. He led the NFL in passer rating on throws of 20 or more yards with a 131.4 — 20 points higher than the second-place Drew Brees.

Because he was so successful on those deep shots, it may have looked like Smith had become a completely different quarterback, but in reality, he didn’t actually ramp up the frequency all that much. In 2016, Smith went deep on 9.4 percent of his pass attempts, which was 31st in the league. Last season he was at 12.3 percent, which only moved him up to 14th. He was notably more aggressive, but he was still only league-average in that area — it was his efficiency on those deep throws that stood out, and to an unsustainable degree.

This season, the production on those deep attempts hasn’t been as strong but the frequency hasn’t actually regressed all the way to his earlier career levels. He is currently taking a deep shot on 11.1 percent of his attempts, good for 22nd in the league. That’s some way short of last season, but still a notable uptick on his previous career baseline.

The bottom line with Smith is that he hasn’t been as aggressive and efficient as he was a season ago, but that was never really likely. What he has done so far in Washington is split the difference between that one outlier season for the Chiefs and his previous career baseline when it comes to aggression and shifting his style as a quarterback. That has the effect of actually improving the number of games he can play a significant part in winning for this team, but as was clear on Monday, it isn’t enough to transform him into the kind of quarterback capable of elevating his team to victory in a shootout.

Eleazar 10-11-2018 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 13808018)
I watched that game rooting for Smith. He let me down once again

You should ask for Alex Smith to be your undertaker...

tk13 10-11-2018 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 13808038)
His performance has really amplified how much Reid did to elevate him (and has likely done with Mahomes as well). He truly is a QB's best friend.

That's really the lesson there. He'd look better under Reid, I'd guarantee it. Reid gets the most out of his QBs... as well as anyone in the league.

ThaVirus 10-11-2018 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 13808018)
I watched that game rooting for Smith. He let me down once again

Same. I'll root for the guy as long as he's not playing the Chiefs.

It's hilarious given his draft position, but he's almost got this underdog air to him.. and I like rooting for the underdog.

Easy 6 10-11-2018 06:54 PM

Lets not go here again

Some of us recognized old traits in Smith last week, and it recalled bad memories... no hate here, still wish him the best

Yes we're glad to move on with Money, but going back to this tired old saw is pointless... the new look KC Chiefs only look forward

HemiEd 10-11-2018 06:55 PM

I commented in the gambling thread after betting on Alex that I tuned in just in time to see his two consecutive drives for field goals to start the game.

I ****ing loved it, so appropriate.

Titty Meat 10-11-2018 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 13808038)
His performance has really amplified how much Reid did to elevate him (and has likely done with Mahomes as well). He truly is a QB's best friend.

OTW once said that Reid being great at coaching up QBs was a myth.

Hammock Parties 10-11-2018 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 13808086)
Lets not go here again

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Pablo 10-11-2018 06:59 PM

Bigger sack of runny dog shit: Alice or Eli?

Deberg_1990 10-11-2018 07:01 PM

Redskins defeat the Chiefs in Super Bowl

Because Chiefs.....

tk13 10-11-2018 07:09 PM

The funny part is people are so obsessed with going deep. Arm strength is important for being able to throw the ball into tight windows. This whole idea that the ability to throw deep is the most important thing is such a myth. Alex Smith had as many passes completed beyond 30 yards last year as Tom Brady has in the last 3 years combined. Peyton Manning's arm was shot his final year when he won a Super Bowl. Ain't nobody taking Alex Smith over either of them. But it's all you read about in these articles, on Twitter, fan boards, etc. You need to be able to threaten vertically but it doesn't equate to championships... Alex Smith was great last year at actually completing passes deep and it didn't mean squat.

The difference is in that 11-20 yard pass range. Brady, Matt Ryan, Mahomes, etc... kill it in that range. Alex Smith doesn't. But I guess it depends on what you classify as a deep pass.

Hammock Parties 10-11-2018 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 13808122)
The funny part is people are so obsessed with going deep. Arm strength is important for being able to throw the ball into tight windows. This whole idea that the ability to throw deep is the most important thing is such a myth.

Deep passing played a huge part in winning the Super Bowl.

The threat of the deep pass opens up everything else.

It's not the only thing but it is a big thing.

-King- 10-11-2018 07:14 PM

No shit? Breaking news here
Posted via Mobile Device

TwistedChief 10-11-2018 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 13808105)
Redskins defeat the Chiefs in Super Bowl

Because Chiefs.....

I love this. ROFL

Pants 10-11-2018 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 13808122)
The funny part is people are so obsessed with going deep. Arm strength is important for being able to throw the ball into tight windows. This whole idea that the ability to throw deep is the most important thing is such a myth. Alex Smith had as many passes completed beyond 30 yards last year as Tom Brady has in the last 3 years combined. Peyton Manning's arm was shot his final year when he won a Super Bowl. Ain't nobody taking Alex Smith over either of them. But it's all you read about in these articles, on Twitter, fan boards, etc. You need to be able to threaten vertically but it doesn't equate to championships... Alex Smith was great last year at actually completing passes deep and it didn't mean squat.

The difference is in that 11-20 yard pass range. Brady, Matt Ryan, Mahomes, etc... kill it in that range. Alex Smith doesn't. But I guess it depends on what you classify as a deep pass.

Obviously it's just my stupid opinion, but I never felt like Alex's arm was his limiting factor. It's average. It's not horrible.

Alex's biggest issue is not being able to deal with pressure, both real and imagined. It stops him from making his progressions and oftentimes leads to "safe" drive-killing decisions.

He also doesn't have that "IDGAF, I have to win no matter what" attitude that every elite quarterback has.

Mahomes, on the other hand, seems to have it all.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-11-2018 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 13808018)
I watched that game rooting for Smith. He let me down once again

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 13808021)
Me too broski!

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 13808081)
Same. I'll root for the guy as long as he's not playing the Chiefs.

It's hilarious given his draft position, but he's almost got this underdog air to him.. and I like rooting for the underdog.

And now I will vomit.

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 13808039)
ROFL

Credit to Redskins fans for not buying into the Baby Lee-ish bullshit that Alex Smith is a “winner”, highlighted by the fact the Redskins’ stadium was half empty for their season opener earlier this season.

They know Alex Smith=No Hope.

Sanity, sweet sanity. ^^^^

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 13808086)
Lets not go here again

No, let's GO here again. Soooooo ****ing sick of hearing that "Alex is just one guy/ it's a team effort"-bullshit for far too ****ing long. No, he wasn't Cassel but he might as well have been for the HUGE and GAPING vagina-hole in talent he created for this team, losing many an important game that could have easily been won by a FIRST YEAR ****ING STARTER.

Just...**** that guy and his dipshit fan club too.

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 13808126)
No shit? Breaking news here
Posted via Mobile Device

:LOL: See above.

Ming the Merciless 10-11-2018 08:02 PM

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Flying High D 10-11-2018 08:57 PM

I like AlEx a lot better as a Skin than as a Chief.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-11-2018 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Flying High D (Post 13808448)
I like AlEx a lot better as a Skin than as a Chief.

Word. God bless that poor, reeruned tribe.

FloridaMan88 10-11-2018 09:09 PM

Alex Smiff the worst scourge to inflict Redskins since smallpox.

WhiteWhale 10-11-2018 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13808124)
Deep passing played a huge part in winning the Super Bowl.

The threat of the deep pass opens up everything else.

It's not the only thing but it is a big thing.

It's not just that.

"Deep passing' is more than 50 yard bombs over a defense. IT's also taking those big chunk 28 yard posts that you NEVER saw Alex even attempt. Good lord, there's a whole area between slants/screens/swings and bombs over the defense that Alex ALSO largely ignores. It's where Mahomes has been purging demons all season. I don't think he's completed a single 'deep pass' over the top yet.

jjchieffan 10-11-2018 09:15 PM

Clay, are you doing a highlight video this week?

Best22 10-11-2018 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 13808484)
It's not just that.

"Deep passing' is more than 50 yard bombs over a defense. IT's also taking those big chunk 28 yard posts that you NEVER saw Alex even attempt. Good lord, there's a whole area between slants/screens/swings and bombs over the defense that Alex ALSO largely ignores. It's where Mahomes has been purging demons all season. I don't think he's completed a single 'deep pass' over the top yet.

He hit one to Hill vs the Niners

Would've had another if Sherman didn't interfere

WhiteWhale 10-11-2018 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 13808499)
He hit one to Hill vs the Niners

Would've had another if Sherman didn't interfere

Yeah, it was deep, but there was still a safety over the top when Hill caught it.

Buehler445 10-11-2018 09:21 PM

ANNNNNNNNND The Sun Comes up in the East.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-11-2018 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 13808481)
Alex Smiff the worst scourge to inflict Redskins since smallpox.

Alex "heap bad blanket trade" Smith.

TribalElder 10-11-2018 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13808063)
when he falls behind by seven or more points, that grade plummets to 53.1, which ranks 33rd

ROFL

how many teams are there :hmmm:

he ranks 33 :hmmm:

New World Order 10-11-2018 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 13808559)
ROFL

how many teams are there :hmmm:

he ranks 33 :hmmm:

LMAO

Valiant 10-11-2018 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 13808122)
The funny part is people are so obsessed with going deep. Arm strength is important for being able to throw the ball into tight windows. This whole idea that the ability to throw deep is the most important thing is such a myth. Alex Smith had as many passes completed beyond 30 yards last year as Tom Brady has in the last 3 years combined. Peyton Manning's arm was shot his final year when he won a Super Bowl. Ain't nobody taking Alex Smith over either of them. But it's all you read about in these articles, on Twitter, fan boards, etc. You need to be able to threaten vertically but it doesn't equate to championships... Alex Smith was great last year at actually completing passes deep and it didn't mean squat.

The difference is in that 11-20 yard pass range. Brady, Matt Ryan, Mahomes, etc... kill it in that range. Alex Smith doesn't. But I guess it depends on what you classify as a deep pass.

Last year was an aberration. He was throwing deep to hill.

His accuracy normally past 5 to 10 yards drops a bunch outside of last year. He has neither the consistent arm strength or accuracy on deep throws. Just go man and he will look for check down if he didn't start with it.

He is horrible down 7 to 20 pts. Plays too conservative to bring most games back on his own. Go for the safe 5 yard pass on 3rd and 8 instead of 1st down throw.

But somehow once he gets down 21plus he starts opening up the throws. He gets his garbage time TDs and yards.

The skins would have been better with a rookie or some cheap backup starting.

Like how rbs are dime a dozen now. I think teams need to grab qbs and limit them like Smith limits himself. Same production for minimum.

Best22 10-11-2018 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 13808559)
ROFL

how many teams are there :hmmm:

he ranks 33 :hmmm:

Probably because there are numerous quarterbacks who start. For example, Bills have had 2 starters

htismaqe 10-11-2018 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 13808575)
Probably because there are numerous quarterbacks who start. For example, Bills have had 2 starters

If both of the Bills QBs (one of whom is Nathan freaking Peterman) are ahead of him... :facepalm:

007 10-12-2018 01:19 AM

PTSD plain and simple

Sannyasi 10-12-2018 01:25 AM

Smith was a bum. The only reason some Chiefs fans were patient with him was because we had even worse bums before him.

jaa1025 10-12-2018 01:37 AM

Not sure how there ever was a doubt? I wanted him gone after his second season.

Rasputin 10-12-2018 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by MVChiefFan (Post 13808035)
I’m so glad that all of the media idiots that bashed us for moving Alex are eating massive fistfuls of crow. It makes the Chiefs look like they know exactly what they’re doing.

I got sick of talking to Chiefs fans saying we should have kept Alex another year. Ignorance is unbound :shake:

Rasputin 10-12-2018 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jaa1025 (Post 13808717)
Not sure how there ever was a doubt? I wanted him gone after his second season.

I did not want him in the first place and let everyone know i wasn't happy about trading for him and my biggest fear of 5 years of mediocrity came true.

Coogs 10-12-2018 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo (Post 13808743)
I got sick of talking to Chiefs fans saying we should have kept Alex another year. Ignorance is unbound :shake:

I dare somebody to call KK and say they were not a fan of the Mahomes pick, with all of his losses against good teams at TT. That we already had Alex Smith and we should have drafted him more help. And that We should have kept Alex this year and let Mahomes develop for another year. And that Mahomes was throwing INT's in training camp, and that was going to carry over into the season. I was right there with you Kevin on all of these points.

Then listen to the the backtrack by KK. ROFL

Flying High D 10-12-2018 05:00 AM

Alex taught Patrick every throw Pat throws. Just the way Slex throws it.

Red Dawg 10-12-2018 05:49 AM

I just can't wrap my head around how anyone thought we should have kept Smith. How many games of him not getting tds do you have to see before you pull the plug. He isn't good enough in today's game.

SuperBowl4 10-12-2018 05:53 AM

Alex Smith is just a little bit better than Matt Cassel.

Chiefnj2 10-12-2018 05:59 AM

Not only did they downgrade at QB, they gave Smith 71 mil guaranteed!! They are stuck with him for three years with a cap hit of about 20 mil per year for the next three years. He's only going to get slower and more cautious each game. Colt McCoy is going to be the most popular player in Washington.

RealSNR 10-12-2018 05:59 AM

Alex Smith really bad and really good

We all know the really good so here's the really bad:

****ING EVERYTHING

notorious 10-12-2018 06:26 AM

Not our problem anymore.

We are the rest of the leagues problem, now.

BigRedChief 10-12-2018 06:40 AM

Alrighty then. Smith sucks. Thats news to who?

At this point, bitching about Smith sucking does as much good as slamming Grbac, Cassell etc. JUST MOVE ON!

arrwheader 10-12-2018 06:59 AM

I need to print this and plaster it all over every dipshits desk at work that tried to argue with me it was the right move.

rtmike 10-12-2018 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 13808256)

He also doesn't have that "IDGAF, I have to win no matter what" attitude that every elite quarterback has.


Jimmy Grapes says Hello, lol.

Rasputin 10-12-2018 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13808769)
Alex Smith really bad and really good

We all know the really good so here's the really bad:

****ING EVERYTHING

Alex really good at being really bad.

Flying High D 10-12-2018 07:11 AM

This would of been Alex’s year. We drafted the missing piece in Breland Speaks.

RealSNR 10-12-2018 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 13808783)
Alrighty then. Smith sucks. Thats news to who?

At this point, bitching about Smith sucking does as much good as slamming Grbac, Cassell etc. JUST MOVE ON!

No.

jjchieffan 10-12-2018 08:09 AM

Eh, I don't really care what he does in Washington. He's not our quarterback anymore. Other than making the haters on here miserable if he does well, I have no reason to care. Patrick Mahomes is playing lights out for the Chiefs. That's fantastic! Alex served his purpose here. Now the Redskins can care.

wazu 10-12-2018 08:14 AM

I didn’t need that MNF game to prove anything. If Alex were playing his best and leading Washington to wins I would still be so glad he’s gone.

Chiefnj2 10-12-2018 08:19 AM

The Chiefs could be 0-5 right now and it would still have been the correct decision.

Dayze 10-12-2018 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 13808873)
I didn’t need that MNF game to prove anything. If Alex were playing his best and leading Washington to wins I would still be so glad he’s gone.

That.

Deberg_1990 10-12-2018 11:48 AM

Glad we have Mahomes but I’ve got zero problems with Alex Smith. He was the right QB at the right time for the Chiefs. He doesn’t get enough credit for leading the Chiefs out of dark times.

Overall he was probably the most successful Chiefs QB since Dawson. (Depends on how you feel about Montana and Trent Green eras)

htismaqe 10-12-2018 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 13809398)
Glad we have Mahomes but I’ve got zero problems with Alex Smith. He was the right QB at the right time for the Chiefs. He doesn’t get enough credit for leading the Chiefs out of dark times.

Overall he was probably the most successful Chiefs QB since Dawson. (Depends on how you feel about Montana and Trent Green eras)

Green was absolutely better.

The defense carried this team for most of Alex's tenure.

Deberg_1990 10-12-2018 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13809443)
Green was absolutely better.

The defense carried this team for most of Alex's tenure.

Better how? Stats? Regular seasons wins? Playoff wins or appearances?

Depends on how you look at it.

BigCatDaddy 10-12-2018 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 13809453)
Better how? Stats? Regular seasons wins? Playoff wins or appearances?

Depends on how you look at it.

Looking at it with your eyes open would tell you Geeen was significantly better.

htismaqe 10-12-2018 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 13809462)
Looking at it with your eyes open would tell you Geeen was significantly better.

Yep.

Discuss Thrower 10-12-2018 12:39 PM

Green only got two seasons as a Chief of the pussified pass defense rules that Smith's had his entire career, too.

stevieray 10-12-2018 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13809443)
Green was absolutely better.

The defense carried this team for most of Alex's tenure.

Not with leads in the the playoffs

Imon Yourside 10-12-2018 12:46 PM

I didn't need confirmation, Smiff gonna Smiff.

BigBeauford 10-12-2018 02:41 PM

After hating the trade from the get go, this is a nice consolation prize. And yes, we could have picked up any schmuck to put up his 3400 yards and 19 TDs he averaged his first 4 seasons.

Valiant 10-12-2018 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 13809453)
Better how? Stats? Regular seasons wins? Playoff wins or appearances?

Depends on how you look at it.

A better qb. Period. While a Chief.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-12-2018 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperBowl4 (Post 13808765)
Alex Smith is just a little bit better than Matt Cassel.

Correct. And this was my prediction from DAY ONE. Cassel II: Battery-Powered Suck-a-Poo.

And so it was, and so it shall forever be.

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13808769)
Alex Smith really bad and really good

We all know the really good so here's the really bad:

****ING EVERYTHING

LMAO

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 13808778)
Not our problem anymore.

We are the rest of the leagues problem, now.

Goddamn right, Skippy.

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 13808865)
Other than making the haters on here miserable if he does well, I have no reason to care.

How's that working out for you, Sally? At least Mahomes has wiped Smith's putrid stench away prior to mid season, yes.

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 13809462)
Looking at it with your eyes open would tell you Geeen was significantly better.

LMAO

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Originally Posted by BigBeauford (Post 13809851)
After hating the trade from the get go, this is a nice consolation prize. And yes, we could have picked up any schmuck to put up his 3400 yards and 19 TDs he averaged his first 4 seasons.

Is the consolation prize Smith destroying another native-themed franchise? Or is it picking up Mahomes who has power-sprayed Smith's doo-doo from the sidewalk of our minds?

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Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 13810056)
A better qb. Period. While a Chief.

ROFL

(It's not rocket surgery, is it?)

smithandrew051 10-12-2018 06:54 PM

You can’t understand what it’s like to have Alex Smith as your team’s QB, until it happens.

People constantly defend his stats, but it’s obvious when you watch him that he can’t lead your team. The helpless feeling of knowing you’ll be let down is hard to describe. It’s like watching a movie with a sad ending and constantly hoping the ending will be different this time.

WhiteWhale 10-12-2018 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Claysexual (Post 13810102)
Correct. And this was my prediction from DAY ONE. Cassel II: Battery-Powered Suck-a-Poo.

I mean, I still don't agree.

Matt Cassel is unusually awful at throwing the football and a turnover machine.

Cassel led the NFL in turnovers one year and was leading the NFL in turnovers another year he injured his pussy and we were subjected to Tyler Palko.

Don't consider that a defense of Alex. Alex is a legit lower tier starter, which sucks. Cassel is a complete fraud. I'm not sure how the hell he's even employed as a back up. I"ll never forget his failed 30 yard hail mary. Good god.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-12-2018 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 13810187)
I mean, I still don't agree.

Matt Cassel is unusually awful at throwing the football and a turnover machine.

Cassel led the NFL in turnovers one year and was leading the NFL in turnovers another year he injured his pussy and we were subjected to Tyler Palko.

Don't consider that a defense of Alex. Alex is a legit lower tier starter, which sucks. Cassel is a complete fraud. I'm not sure how the hell he's even employed as a back up. I"ll never forget his failed 30 yard hail mary. Good god.

I look at it like this:

Alex Smith is 1/2 suck.
Matt Cassel is 2/3 suck.

Alex Smith and Matt Cassel are both fractions.

Does that help? Somewhat? :)

smithandrew051 10-12-2018 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 13810187)
I mean, I still don't agree.

Matt Cassel is unusually awful at throwing the football and a turnover machine.

Cassel led the NFL in turnovers one year and was leading the NFL in turnovers another year he injured his pussy and we were subjected to Tyler Palko.

Don't consider that a defense of Alex. Alex is a legit lower tier starter, which sucks. Cassel is a complete fraud. I'm not sure how the hell he's even employed as a back up. I"ll never forget his failed 30 yard hail mary. Good god.

I completely forgot about the Haily Mary off the crossbar from 30 yards. I had to watch that on YouTube. Freaking hilarious.


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