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DaFace 11-23-2018 06:19 PM

Your expectations for Eric Berry's (hopeful) return
 
It sounds like the Chiefs are expecting EB to practice next week (though that doesn't necessarily mean he'll actually play in a game yet). Just thought it'd be interesting to check the pulse of ChiefsPlanet in terms of expectations.

raybec 4 11-23-2018 06:23 PM

I don't expect him to make a meaningful impact. Even if he has the surgery in the off-season it could mean another torn Achilles.

Jewish Rabbi 11-23-2018 06:25 PM

Super. Bowl. Champs.

TinyEvel 11-23-2018 06:26 PM

Hopefully it's even 1% better than Sorenson's effect after returning. Dan wasn't;t that great to begin with but he's super meh now.

Bugeater 11-23-2018 06:28 PM

He'll never have a meaningful impact on a game again.

DaFace 11-23-2018 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TinyEvel (Post 13911149)
Hopefully it's even 1% better than Sorenson's effect after returning. Dan wasn't;t that great to begin with but he's super meh now.

That's kind of where I'm at. I don't expect Berry to ever play at a pro bowl level again, but his smarts are good enough to be better than Sorensen and Parker at least. I went with "make a minor difference in the playoffs" personally.

chiefzilla1501 11-23-2018 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TinyEvel (Post 13911149)
Hopefully it's even 1% better than Sorenson's effect after returning. Dan wasn't;t that great to begin with but he's super meh now.

Well, that's what happens when we have it out guarding receivers one on one on outside coverage. Sorenson will benefit big time from berry coming back.

Rasputin 11-23-2018 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 13911148)
Super. Bowl. Champs.

This is doable.



If he can play then he is going make a big impact.

Rasputin 11-23-2018 06:34 PM

I know every other team we face are scared of Berry return and the playoff contention teams don't want him back.

Rasputin 11-23-2018 06:37 PM

The big impact is his on the field leadership getting guys in position where they need to be to make plays.


I think his presence will boost Houston the most and energize this defense.

Jerok 11-23-2018 06:38 PM

Injured, bone-spurred cancer-ridden non-practicing Eric Berry is still at least 50% better than our current safeties.

Demonpenz 11-23-2018 06:40 PM

I expect him to be carted off

oldman 11-23-2018 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 13911153)
That's kind of where I'm at. I don't expect Berry to ever play at a pro bowl level again, but his smarts are good enough to be better than Sorensen and Parker at least. I went with "make a minor difference in the playoffs" personally.

I agree. The only question I have is for how long? I can see him being an upgrade, but can he stay healthy?

Rasputin 11-23-2018 06:44 PM

A Phylis interception for a pick 6

TinyEvel 11-23-2018 06:52 PM

I mean, has there been any new of Berry even working out? While he was getting his cancer treatments, he had famously never stopped working out and had regressed very little during that year.

Any news of similar conditioning upkeep? Hopefully he doesn't look below the sweatsuit like he does in the beard/hair.

Bewbies 11-23-2018 06:52 PM

He makes the key play in the SB and is forever a KC icon.

DaFace 11-23-2018 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TinyEvel (Post 13911168)
I mean, has there been any new of Berry even working out? While he was getting his cancer treatments, he had famously never stopped working out and had regressed very little during that year.

Any news of similar conditioning upkeep? Hopefully he doesn't look below the sweatsuit like he does in the beard/hair.

I can't remember for sure which player it was, but I definitely remember listening to an interview with a player (maybe Tyreek?) who said that EB has been working out with them all season.

EDIT: It was Dee Ford.

007 11-23-2018 07:00 PM

Play a few downs and have a season ending injury

Molitoth 11-23-2018 09:07 PM

He better be a freaking beast for the amount of money he is making.

SuperBowl4 11-23-2018 09:35 PM

Darryl Strawberry has a better chance of playing this season for the CHIEFS

Reerun_KC 11-23-2018 09:37 PM

IF he plays. Minor to zero difference. Too much youth on the team, brokendick vets will struggle in comparison.

pugsnotdrugs19 11-23-2018 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 13911300)
IF he plays. Minor to zero difference. Too much youth on the team, brokendick vets will struggle in comparison.

Tough scene.

carcosa 11-23-2018 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi (Post 13911148)
Super. Bowl. Champs.

YES!!!!!

alpha_omega 11-23-2018 10:04 PM

Nothing really, but not expecting to see him.

Love the guy but I’m ready to move on.

GloryDayz 11-23-2018 10:16 PM

If he'll take the shots he'll be an upgrade.

PAChiefsGuy 11-23-2018 10:31 PM

If he can stay healthy I think he'll be rusty then gradually get better and come playoff time be close to what he once was. Dudes a baller....

George Liquor 11-23-2018 11:15 PM

Re-injure himself then retire

BossChief 11-23-2018 11:16 PM

We need him to be able to cover these guys:

Eric Ebron
Vance McDonald
Rob Gronkowski
Jesse James

If he can do that and help in run support, he might get a chance to hoist the Lombardi.

Naptown Chief 11-23-2018 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 13911178)
I can't remember for sure which player it was, but I definitely remember listening to an interview with a player (maybe Tyreek?) who said that EB has been working out with them all season.

It was the Dee Ford interview

DaFace 11-23-2018 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwwataz (Post 13911393)
It was the Dee Ford interview

Ah, yes, that's right. Thanks.

RippedmyFlesh 11-23-2018 11:24 PM

I don't care what fans think I just hope the team doesn't count on this that much.
Almost 2 full years of not playing is going to show he's human. If he comes back great but you're good without him. Don't pin hopes on this let it just be a bonus.

DTVietnam 11-23-2018 11:50 PM

hes going to running around all over the field making plays and laying big hits..

he'll be ready. . i think our success (9-2 record) and the type of injured allowed him to be patient. .

when hes on the field he'll bring it. .

if im on offense id be scared of a fresh Eric Berry in week 13 or 14. .

crayzkirk 11-24-2018 04:20 AM

My heart says he will make a difference, my head says he won't finish the season and will rupture the second achilles tendon due to lack of actual playing time.

BlackOp 11-24-2018 04:33 AM

Unless this was a scripted "cancer survivor returns from the ashes to lead KC to first SB in 49 years" narrative...I fully expect Berry to be another plaque hung on the infamous "what if" wall of Chief's ineptitude.

Why Not? 11-24-2018 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperBowl4 (Post 13911298)
Darryl Strawberry has a better chance of playing this season for the CHIEFS

This

Imon Yourside 11-24-2018 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 13911170)
He makes the key play in the SB and is forever a KC icon.

All those Haglund T-shirts will sell like hotcakes, i'm investing now.

FlaChief58 11-24-2018 06:11 AM

He'll keep playing cheerleader, collect his sb ring, get cut, then sign with the faid next year.

dannybcaitlyn 11-24-2018 06:24 AM

He’s going to come back with a vengeance and shut all his haters up!! He’ll have a family reunion in Georgia when we are representing the AFC in the Super Bowl! Then he’s going to be pimping the Cadilac he wins for game MVP while saying “keep doubting me Mother****ers!”

Chiefs Moon 11-24-2018 06:58 AM

Zero expectations. If he plays well one game, the tendonitis may return and he'll sit two. Who knows? Until Berry gets surgery, the tendonitis will be an issue.

New World Order 11-24-2018 07:45 AM

I have no clue.

I think he'll come back and play but who knows how long he'll last. Could come back and be a solid contributor or last for a quarter.

I'm 50/50

Randallflagg 11-24-2018 08:34 AM

I sincerely *hope* that he plays and that he plays at a high level. Unfortunately, I don;t think it’s going to happen. Time will tell and I hope to hell that I’m wrong... :(

Jewish Rabbi 11-24-2018 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannybcaitlyn (Post 13911516)
He’s going to come back with a vengeance and shut all his haters up!! He’ll have a family reunion in Georgia when we are representing the AFC in the Super Bowl! Then he’s going to be pimping the Cadilac he wins for game MVP while saying “keep doubting me Mother****ers!”

He’s going to get all the Escalades for our Super Bowl win.

Hammock Parties 11-24-2018 09:01 AM

If he can get through practice this week I think he'll be a major factor, especially in the red zone and cleaning up the run defense.

If he can't, waste of time.

Deberg_1990 11-24-2018 09:05 AM

Extremely low

baitism 11-24-2018 09:36 AM

Tears his labia in practice. Out for the year.

GloryDayz 11-24-2018 09:51 AM

I hope the NFL has queued-up/scripted a Rocky style ending where the Chiefs screaming our version of "Adrian, ADRIAN", somebody has to cut the swelling above our eye, but we, bloodied to a pulp, seeing out of one eye deliver a punch in the final round for a SB victory.

Sorce 11-24-2018 10:00 AM

He'll come in make a big play then have a season ending injury.

TwistedChief 11-24-2018 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TinyEvel (Post 13911168)
I mean, has there been any new of Berry even working out? While he was getting his cancer treatments, he had famously never stopped working out and had regressed very little during that year.

Any news of similar conditioning upkeep? Hopefully he doesn't look below the sweatsuit like he does in the beard/hair.

Do you really think just because there haven’t been reports of his working out (outside of the Dee Ford interview) that he likely hasn’t been? The guy worked out during cancer treatment but he’s been sitting on his ass drinking beer for the last several months knowing that he might get another shot to play again this season on a run to the Super Bowl?

His comeback from cancer was a major news story for the Chiefs and the NFL and the leakage/release of those workout stories would make sense to help with the feel-good factor around it. Incredibly different situation.

I think the fact that he came back from cancer and did so quickly should make people more optimistic regarding his impact over the remainder of the season, but it seems most people here aren’t giving him any credit for that.

Time will tell, but in my view the bar is very low given our safety play.

oldman 11-24-2018 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 13911599)
I hope the NFL has queued-up/scripted a Rocky style ending where the Chiefs screaming our version of "Adrian, ADRIAN", somebody has to cut the swelling above our eye, but we, bloodied to a pulp, seeing out of one eye deliver a punch in the final round for a SB victory.

As I said before, I think he'll be an upgrade, but for how long. I'm going to go with GloryDayz's scenario and the team will win one for the Berryier (see the 1940 classic "Knute Rockne,All-American" if you don't get the reference).

Wallcrawler 11-24-2018 11:26 AM

I really believe our record is what has kept Berry out. If he was really bad off he would have been placed on IR. There hasnt been a need to rush him back, and extra recovery time is going to be a positive.

Couple games to get his rust knocked off and his wind back, and he willl be a beast for us in the playoffs.

Yeah, hes making a ton of money, and we want to see him out there, but if holding him out longer, and all but guaranteeing a healthy Eric Berry for a superbowl push gets it done, then its all worth it.

Everyone shitting on Berry seems to easily forget what a game changer he is. He put us over the top against the Panthers, and Falcons in his comeback year, and then completely shut down Gronk in the opener in which we destroyed the pats before getting hurt.

Berry is a beast, and will impact our defense in a big way.

GloryDayz 11-24-2018 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 13911672)
I really believe our record is what has kept Berry out. If he was really bad off he would have been placed on IR. There hasnt been a need to rush him back, and extra recovery time is going to be a positive.

Couple games to get his rust knocked off and his wind back, and he willl be a beast for us in the playoffs.

Yeah, hes making a ton of money, and we want to see him out there, but if holding him out longer, and all but guaranteeing a healthy Eric Berry for a superbowl push gets it done, then its all worth it.

Everyone shitting on Berry seems to easily forget what a game changer he is. He put us over the top against the Panthers, and Falcons in his comeback year, and then completely shut down Gronk in the opener in which we destroyed the pats before getting hurt.

Berry is a beast, and will impact our defense in a big way.

The story we're hearing is that he really wants to play, but medically can't. Are you suggesting that you think he could play, but is saving himself? If he could have played but optionally missed, and we could realistically be 11-0, then I'd be rather angry.

Rasputin 11-24-2018 01:09 PM

You gotta ask yourself this question.


Eric Murray

or

Haglund's deformity Eric Berry

?

Who would you want on the field come playoffs?

Shaid 11-24-2018 01:17 PM

When they realized he had this in pre-season they should have want in and shaved that born spur off. Even if it was a 8-12 week recovery, we'd have still been better off.

Imon Yourside 11-24-2018 01:19 PM

I was somewhat disheartened to learn Berry was actually playing in our 45-44 playoff loss to the Colts.

Hammock Parties 11-24-2018 01:19 PM

I can't wait until Berry does something heroic in a game and it comes to be known as "The Haglund Maneuver"

wazu 11-24-2018 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13911793)
I can't wait until Berry does something heroic in a game and it comes to be known as "The Haglund Maneuver"

Prepare to be DEFORMED!

pugsnotdrugs19 11-24-2018 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaid (Post 13911790)
When they realized he had this in pre-season they should have want in and shaved that born spur off. Even if it was a 8-12 week recovery, we'd have still been better off.

They’d have to manually tear the Achilles in order to shave the bone down, thus his season would have ended in that scenario.

jaa1025 11-24-2018 01:44 PM

He is a significant upgrade. Baring any significant injury to the rest of the team this makes the Chiefs SB favorites.

Otter 11-24-2018 01:51 PM

Dear Eric Berry;

Shit or get off the pot already.

Sincerely,

Chiefs Fans

Shaid 11-24-2018 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13911825)
They’d have to manually tear the Achilles in order to shave the bone down, thus his season would have ended in that scenario.

hmm, don't know if that would be better or not. Yes, his season would be over but he's constantly had it bothering him and it's not like it'll improve.

old_geezer 11-24-2018 01:58 PM

He should be a minimal upgrade (Hell, a dead possum placed on the 50 yard line would be an upgrade over our current starters) but I don't expect him to be all that good after almost 2 years of non-action. I honestly expect him to come up injured in the first 1-2 games back. :shrug:

Otter 11-24-2018 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by old_geezer (Post 13911851)
He should be a minimal upgrade (Hell, a dead possum placed on the 50 yard line would be an upgrade over our current starters) but I don't expect him to be all that good after almost 2 years of non-action. I honestly expect him to come up injured in the first 1-2 games back. :shrug:

At least the starters are playing and not taking up a roster spot as dead weight for close to 2 years.

CoMoChief 11-24-2018 02:17 PM

I say he practices light but then I don't think he plays til wk 16 or 17.

But who knows...guess that will the be 1st 2nd 3rd - 100th question on everyone's mind once Chiefs practice resumes next Mon and he gets out onto the field and tests his foot out.

Frustratingly the Chiefs will probably be as cliche and beat around the bush as they can possibly be, without really answering anything.

I certainly wouldn't think the Chiefs would trot Berry out there 1st game back being a playoff game. That's a disaster waiting to happen. I would think the Chiefs would want a couple warm up games to get him back into the swing of things, get out on the field w/ the other guys, build whatever chemistry he can etc.

NJChiefsFan 11-24-2018 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 13911762)
The story we're hearing is that he really wants to play, but medically can't. Are you suggesting that you think he could play, but is saving himself? If he could have played but optionally missed, and we could realistically be 11-0, then I'd be rather angry.

What if we still get the 1 seed and he is ready to go for the playoffs? Will you be ok with how things played out?

KChiefs1 11-24-2018 03:23 PM

https://youtu.be/E1tMxUrFpI4

Frazod 11-24-2018 03:25 PM

I went with Option 2. Just too pessimistic about him at this point. I'm afraid that if he does play, he's going to break again.

Would be thrilled to be proven wrong.

JakeF 11-24-2018 03:42 PM

If recent history is any indication, Berry will come back only to reinjure himself in his first game back.

GloryDayz 11-24-2018 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by old_geezer (Post 13911851)
He should be a minimal upgrade (Hell, a dead possum placed on the 50 yard line would be an upgrade over our current starters) but I don't expect him to be all that good after almost 2 years of non-action. I honestly expect him to come up injured in the first 1-2 games back. :shrug:

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GloryDayz 11-24-2018 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 13911923)
What if we still get the 1 seed and he is ready to go for the playoffs? Will you be ok with how things played out?

If I found out he could have been playing, no. At least not without some very honest explanation.

I don't like "ifs" with this team.

Easy 6 11-24-2018 05:07 PM

Went with minor upgrade, I'm obviously hoping for more... but the way things have went with him the last couple years, dont try and guilt trip me for being skeptical

NJChiefsFan 11-24-2018 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 13912053)
If I found out he could have been playing, no. At least not without some very honest explanation.

I don't like "ifs" with this team.

Ok. I get that. Hypothetically if we finish with the 1 seed without him and medical professionals told you him sitting out increased his chances of lasting through the playoffs would that change anything?

I know I'm proposing best case scenario to defend Berry here but when I look at this, since it hasn't played out fully, the above is a possibility. Until it isn't I'm not gonna get too angry.

If we lose HFA then I'll start to change my tune, very much so if we lose on the road.

GloryDayz 11-24-2018 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 13912065)
Ok. I get that. Hypothetically if we finish with the 1 seed without him and medical professionals told you him sitting out increased his chances of lasting through the playoffs would that change anything?

I know I'm proposing best case scenario to defend Berry here but when I look at this, since it hasn't played out fully, the above is a possibility. Until it isn't I'm not gonna get too angry.

If we lose HFA then I'll start to change my tune, very much so if we lose on the road.

Happy the non-Haglunds got us to the playoffs and got us HFA, sure I'd be happy. In fact I'd be thrilled! And if Haglund comes back and tears it up (however that's defined [kanda subjective]), I'd be happy too. But I would sure want to know why they kept it a secret, which is why I'm pretty sure they'd never do that, even if true.

If we lose HFA, go into NE or Pitt and lose to Tom or Ben and their band of zebras, do you go off on Haglund? Not that Tom or Ben won't bring their zebras with them, look no further than last year's raping of the Chiefs in Arrowhead, but I think it's a little tiny bit harder.

King_Chief_Fan 11-24-2018 06:15 PM

I think he should stay home and nurse his owie.
He can be part of this championship by default and live with the fact that he added no value this year

Bump 11-24-2018 06:15 PM

I will be expecting pick sixes all day every day

NJChiefsFan 11-24-2018 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 13912095)
If we lose HFA, go into NE or Pitt and lose to Tom or Ben and their band of zebras, do you go off on Haglund? Not that Tom or Ben won't bring their zebras with them, look no further than last year's raping of the Chiefs in Arrowhead, but I think it's a little tiny bit harder.

You think last year was deliberate? Why would the league favor TEN over us? Tripplett is just an awful ref that got a reward by the league to ref that game. Reckless and unacceptable by the league, yes. Intentionally trying to let TEN win, I don't see why the possibly would want that. Nobody looked forward to the TEN vs. NE game.

tmh 11-24-2018 07:57 PM

I think rusty 2 games then great through AFC champ where he again gets hurt. SB will be shootout

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BottomShelfBoose 11-24-2018 08:00 PM

Berry's gonna come back and grape.

GloryDayz 11-24-2018 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 13912179)
You think last year was deliberate? Why would the league favor TEN over us? Tripplett is just an awful ref that got a reward by the league to ref that game. Reckless and unacceptable by the league, yes. Intentionally trying to let TEN win, I don't see why the possibly would want that. Nobody looked forward to the TEN vs. NE game.

I'm still sick about the TEN game. Probably because I'm with you when it comes to the "why" part, but I definitely think Triplette is/was more than an incompetent ****. He's certainly a ****er, there's no denying that, but I don't know what he has against the Chiefs. But I 100% think he did. I think he was dirty, very dirty.

I'll say again, even now, nothing too bad can happen to that ****ing piece of shit.

DTVietnam 11-24-2018 09:05 PM

when do the Chiefs go back to practice?

DTVietnam 11-24-2018 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 13912200)
I'm still sick about the TEN game. Probably because I'm with you when it comes to the "why" part, but I definitely think Triplette is/was more than an incompetent ****. He's certainly a ****er, there's no denying that, but I don't know what he has against the Chiefs. But I 100% think he did. I think he was dirty, very dirty.

I'll say again, even now, nothing too bad can happen to that ****ing piece of shit.

the only game in recent history that i havent watched the highlights after. .

that one hurt too much

not only the bad calls..the complete inability to stop the RB..the self TD that Revis gifted them..its all too painful


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