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Daru 12-04-2018 01:21 PM

Question why is LUCAS no snaps?
 
Not understanding. Parker and Sorenson both slow trash. Lucas before has some strike but no snaps lately. Benched yes why??

Shaid 12-04-2018 01:23 PM

Saving him for the playoffs and then we release our secret weapon!

Titty Meat 12-04-2018 01:23 PM

Hes day to day

htismaqe 12-04-2018 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaid (Post 13935262)
Saving him for the playoffs and then we release our secret weapon!

You have LUCAS confused with BERRY. :)

O.city 12-04-2018 01:25 PM

DJ brought it up and I think it probably rings true here.

Those guys suck but it's more devil I know kind of thing. They trust those guys to suck not awful hard. They dont' trust Lucas to do that.

Sassy Squatch 12-04-2018 01:26 PM

Sutton.

Direckshun 12-04-2018 01:27 PM

His tackling is not very good.

That's the only complaint I can muster with him so far. But that rings as hollow as ever with Eric Murray's atrocious performance against the Raiders.

New World Order 12-04-2018 01:27 PM

KC is paying Sorensen almost 4 million dollars

Think about that for a second

Chiefs Moon 12-04-2018 01:33 PM

Lucas should get snaps for no other reason than to send a message to the garbage safeties that are starting.

Warpaint69 12-04-2018 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 13935277)
His tackling is not very good.

That's the only complaint I can muster with him so far. But that rings as hollow as ever with Eric Murray's atrocious performance against the Raiders.

If Lucas isn’t very good at talking, what’s that make Murray’s lack of tackling ability?

RINGLEADER 12-04-2018 01:38 PM

Evidently making plays < Sutton's confidence in the player being in the right place on the field to not make a play.

htismaqe 12-04-2018 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 13935308)
Evidently making plays < Sutton's confidence in the player being in the right place on the field to not make a play.

Lucas didn't make all that many plays. The defense was still really bad even with him playing.

The Franchise 12-04-2018 01:46 PM

How in the **** do ALL of our safeties suck this bad? Jesus.

htismaqe 12-04-2018 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Pest (Post 13935323)
How in the **** do ALL of our safeties suck this bad? Jesus.

Organizational failure. Bad coaching, bad scouting, bad everything.

Eleazar 12-04-2018 01:51 PM

He not fail Daru

O.city 12-04-2018 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13935325)
Organizational failure. Bad coaching, bad scouting, bad everything.

But they've always been able to have journey men play well back there before.

It's weird. I don't really know what has happened.

tooge 12-04-2018 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13935350)
But they've always been able to have journey men play well back there before.

It's weird. I don't really know what has happened.

No more have swag. Confidence has lost

O.city 12-04-2018 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tooge (Post 13935353)
No more have swag. Confidence has lost

Has had have had once.

O.city 12-04-2018 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tooge (Post 13935353)
No more have swag. Confidence has lost

My day was filled with extractions that had to be referred out because of whatever reason and cancellations. I'm angry.

wazu 12-04-2018 02:11 PM

Agree with Daru. This is the most perplexing personnel decision on defense this year. Lucas looked like he had potential when he got some playing time earlier this year. Sutton prefers incompetent veterans.

htismaqe 12-04-2018 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13935350)
But they've always been able to have journey men play well back there before.

It's weird. I don't really know what has happened.

Were they ever really that good without Berry back there?

The Franchise 12-04-2018 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13935371)
Were they ever really that good without Berry back there?

That's my thought. When Berry was an All-Pro...it was pretty easy to find one safety to do at least a mediocre job. When you're trying to find two safeties.....it's apparently impossible.

O.city 12-04-2018 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13935371)
Were they ever really that good without Berry back there?

True.

farmerchief 12-04-2018 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 13935277)
His tackling is not very good.

That's the only complaint I can muster with him so far. But that rings as hollow as ever with Eric Murray's atrocious performance against the Raiders.

The way Murray got juked out of his jock in the backfield last game, Id rather see Lucas get the snaps and get some experience! At least he looks fast!

tooge 12-04-2018 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13935366)
My day was filled with extractions that had to be referred out because of whatever reason and cancellations. I'm angry.

because of referrals suck days

jjchieffan 12-04-2018 04:26 PM

I know. When Murray got into that scuffle I was hoping that he would be ejected so that Lucas could play.

RealSNR 12-04-2018 05:46 PM

Was Markus Golden this bad, too?

I have a feeling we could have used him this season.

ToxSocks 12-04-2018 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13935274)

Those guys suck but it's more devil I know kind of thing. They trust those guys to suck not awful hard. They dont' trust Lucas to do that.

This.

TinyEvel 12-04-2018 07:25 PM

The whole secondary really is that bad, and no confidence nor swagger at all. When is the last time you saw a Chiefs DB get an interception? I honestly couldn’t tell you. Rams game it was Chris Jones. I was at the Raiders game and just watching these guys play... no gas, no spark, no motor. Carr could have just thrown it to Jordy Nelson on the right all game and had 500 yards.

KCUnited 12-04-2018 07:28 PM

Only 2 more seasons until he learns when to tackle in Sutton’s scheme.

IA_Chiefs_fan 12-04-2018 07:56 PM

I had difficulty reading the OP, until I read it in Yoda voice.

ILChief 12-04-2018 07:56 PM

Eric Murray may be the worst player in the NFL. Will some reporter ask Reid or Sutton why Lucas isn't playing

WhiteWhale 12-04-2018 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 13935277)
His tackling is not very good.

That's the only complaint I can muster with him so far. But that rings as hollow as ever with Eric Murray's atrocious performance all season long

FYP

WhiteWhale 12-04-2018 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 13935648)
I know. When Murray got into that scuffle I was hoping that he would be ejected so that Lucas could play.

My brother was over during the game and he was like "Eject them both!"

It's a 2 way win for the Chiefs. Murray is out and the Raiders best offensive weapon is out.

NJChiefsFan 12-04-2018 11:07 PM

Murray had 2 horrific missed tackles Sunday. Not sure what he did beyond that but man those two were really bad.

Iconic 12-04-2018 11:12 PM

Holy **** posting in a Daru thread. I think our luck is about to change for the better. SB bound baby.

MVChiefFan 12-04-2018 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13935799)
Was Markus Golden this bad, too?

I have a feeling we could have used him this season.

Yeah, I’m not sure what happened there. But, Golden asked for his release. Maybe he looked at the trash playing in front of him and said “I gotta get the hell outta here!”

JakeF 12-05-2018 12:04 AM

I think Sutton was having such problems preventing breakdowns in assignments that he didn't think he could afford to teach Lucas at the same time. Reid prefers dependable mediocrity.

ILChief 12-05-2018 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 13936426)
I think Sutton was having such problems preventing breakdowns in assignments that he didn't think he could afford to teach Lucas at the same time. Reid prefers dependable mediocrity.

Mediocrity would be an improvement

T-post Tom 12-05-2018 03:27 AM

Here is some heresay for you: Emmitt Thomas is 75 years old. HOF career but maybe the game has passed him by? Is it ageism to question whether a 75 year old man should still be coaching millennials at the NFL level? (Especially as a position coach.) Has he been kept on for 8 years out of respect for his career as a player?

scho63 12-05-2018 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 13935277)
His tackling is not very good.
.

So he fits in perfectly with our starting secondary.

jaa1025 12-05-2018 06:59 AM

Question that has been asked since the Cleveland game? He's the best safety that has played this season on the team and I don't think it's particularly close.

Aspengc8 12-05-2018 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaa1025 (Post 13936526)
Question that has been asked since the Cleveland game? He's the best safety that has played this season on the team and I don't think it's particularly close.

Lucas is having issues with his assignments. You can have a choice of a guy that doesn't know where he's supposed to be, or a guy that can't tackle but knows his assignment..

rtmike 12-05-2018 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Pest (Post 13935323)
How in the **** do ALL of our safeties suck this bad? Jesus.

How long ago was it we was trading away Safeties?

One went to Tampa Bay. ONe in Seattle or was that the same guy? McQuay or something was one of them I think?

O.city 12-05-2018 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aspengc8 (Post 13936564)
Lucas is having issues with his assignments. You can have a choice of a guy that doesn't know where he's supposed to be, or a guy that can't tackle but knows his assignment..

Then teach him? Maybe he can't learn ?

The safety play is so damn frustrating. It torpedoes the d.

farmerchief 12-05-2018 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rtmike (Post 13936602)
How long ago was it we was trading away Safeties?

One went to Tampa Bay. ONe in Seattle or was that the same guy? McQuay or something was one of them I think?

We had the KU safety, Bradley McDougald for awhile, don’t know why we let him go? He seems to be doing pretty well at Seattle

RunKC 12-05-2018 09:49 AM

He isn’t that great. He looked good against Bortles FFS. I get it but he’s not got much experience and he got beat pretty badly in games that followed.

I know everyone will pin this one Sutton, but Eric Berry makes everything so much easier on this defense.

That’s the biggest reason we were able to have lower level talent in the backend doing well.

htismaqe 12-05-2018 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13936688)
He isn’t that great. He looked good against Bortles FFS. I get it but he’s not got much experience and he got beat pretty badly in games that followed.

I know everyone will pin this one Sutton, but Eric Berry makes everything so much easier on this defense.

That’s the biggest reason we were able to have lower level talent in the backend doing well.

Yep. This is the truth, unfortunately.

Rasputin 12-05-2018 10:14 AM

Not if sure Smed1065 :hmmm:

Toad 12-05-2018 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Pest (Post 13935323)
How in the **** do ALL of our safeties suck this bad? Jesus.

Great question. The follow up question: What is the organization going to do about it in the off season?

WhiteWhale 12-05-2018 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13936688)
He isn’t that great. He looked good against Bortles FFS. I get it but he’s not got much experience and he got beat pretty badly in games that followed.

I know everyone will pin this one Sutton, but Eric Berry makes everything so much easier on this defense.

That’s the biggest reason we were able to have lower level talent in the backend doing well.

The first year Berry was injured back in, I think, 2014 KC had a top 5 passing defense.

OF course that season Justin Houston was an unblockable animal. Also Abdullah was a good player.

Rasputin 01-14-2019 08:02 AM

He is getting some playing time now and it is paying off. Keep him in the lineup starting defense.

Simply Red 01-18-2019 05:02 PM

Anyone seen Daru?


Daru, They start your guy - quick strike in coverage, zone or any of those.

Lucas play strong like tiger at sundown.

Dr. Yu Weed Tard 01-18-2019 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaid (Post 13935262)
Saving him for the playoffs and then we release our secret weapon!

Boom.

bricks 01-18-2019 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 14050784)
Anyone seen Daru?


Daru, They start your guy - quick strike in coverage, zone or any of those.

Lucas play strong like tiger at sundown.

He throw paw at Brady

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-18-2019 07:26 PM

Daru happy now. Much sunshine.

MahiMike 01-18-2019 07:57 PM

He's good. And Charcandrick too!


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