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wutamess 12-11-2018 01:52 PM

Scandrick is...
 
The sole reason we've lost our 2 games and almost our 3rd.

Anyone else notice he could've put ALL 3 games away (Patriots, Rams & Ravens)? I know that's the reason he plays defense but I'm guessing he's going to be THAT ONE person that doesn't do SHIT until he gets the game wining pick in the SB to bring home the Lombardi!

Carry on!

Reerun_KC 12-11-2018 01:53 PM

Blame!!!!

Rasputin 12-11-2018 01:57 PM

Who was it for the Cowboys that didn't do shit during the season but had 3 interceptions in the Super Bowl (MVP) and got paid the next year by the Raiders was his name Brown? I don't know if my history is correct?

loochy 12-11-2018 01:58 PM

Yes, Larry Brown
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Hammock Parties 12-11-2018 01:59 PM

How did he lose the Pats game?

MahiMike 12-11-2018 02:10 PM

He's our Malcolm Butler!

DJ's left nut 12-11-2018 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13952211)
How did he lose the Pats game?

Yeah, that was Josh Shaw.

I don't recall Scandrick dropping anything critical in that game.

OKchiefs 12-11-2018 02:12 PM

I can think of a certain safety who's presence wouldn't have allowed tight ends to torch our defense in late game drives.

loochy 12-11-2018 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 13952248)
I can think of a certain safety who's presence wouldn't have allowed tight ends to torch our defense in late game drives.

Yeah, it would have been nice to sign Earl Thomas.
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Marcellus 12-11-2018 02:14 PM

The sole reason we have up 40 and 50 points?

Molitoth 12-11-2018 02:14 PM

I HATE dropped passes more than anything.

Scandrick can GTFO, and I don't care that's the reason he plays CB.
Shaquem Griffin would probably have more INT's than him.

Blick 12-11-2018 02:17 PM

Scandrick is right up there with the worst players on this defense.

I wish Sutton would give Smith or Ward some reps at corner.

ROYC75 12-11-2018 02:19 PM

Meh, so a few plays he's been off, he has played far better that any of us here expected of him to play!

Me thinks yur nit picking here!

htismaqe 12-11-2018 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blick (Post 13952262)
Scandrick is right up there with the worst players on this defense.

I wish Sutton would give Smith or Ward some reps at corner.

ROFL

alpha_omega 12-11-2018 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 13952272)
Meh, so a few plays he's been off, he has played far better that any of us here expected of him to play!

Me thinks yur nit picking here!

This. It could have been David Amerson.

DJ's left nut 12-11-2018 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blick (Post 13952262)
Scandrick is right up there with the worst players on this defense.

I wish Sutton would give Smith or Ward some reps at corner.

Nobody is as bad as Parker or Ragland. And Scandrick has been significantly better than Hitchens..

Let's give the worst players on this defense due credit - those ****ing guys suck.

Scandrick isn't in that conversation. He's just a JAG.

Spott 12-11-2018 02:35 PM

Fuller almost cost us the game in Denver when he dropped that interception that was thrown right to him. The very next play Keenum overthrew Thomas who was wide open for a touchdown that would have won the game.

BleedingRed 12-11-2018 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alpha_omega (Post 13952297)
This. It could have been David Amerson.

This makes me cringe

JakeF 12-11-2018 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wutamess (Post 13952192)
Scandrick is ...

still one of our better cornerbacks, we don't have much choice right now.

I want to know why our coaches and player personnel didn't work harder to find better options in our secondary? They didn't even seem to try this year. They traded Marcus Peters away, traded for Fuller and then took a nap like everything was fine.

They couldn't predict that Berry might get hurt. They couldn't predict that Murray and Sorenson might suck. Just common and logical possibilities that were completely ignored by the Chiefs.

Dorsey was right, we never should have given the huge contracts to Houston and Berry. They completely handcuffed the salary cap room for defense.

The 20 million per year for Houston would let us sign 3 really good starters on defense. 13 million for Berry isn't crazy but he is a continual injury risk every year. We should have let both walk and got the comp picks.

You spend money on offense and continually draft for defense.

You have to be able to draft and develop for Defense. We haven't been developing on Defense at the needed level.

TLO 12-11-2018 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13952298)

Scandrick isn't in that conversation. He's just a JAG.

He's just a just another guy.

The Franchise 12-11-2018 02:48 PM

Scandrick is....


the least of our problems on defense right now.

Blick 12-11-2018 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13952298)
Nobody is as bad as Parker or Ragland. And Scandrick has been significantly better than Hitchens..

Let's give the worst players on this defense due credit - those ****ing guys suck.

Scandrick isn't in that conversation. He's just a JAG.

Agreed except for Scandrick being significantly better than Hitchens. We've discussed the DL freelancing and not doing Hitchens any favors. What's the excuse for Scandrick?

He's slow, he's grabby, he gets flagged a lot, he gets beat outright all the time, bad tackling, poor ball skills. What does he do well?

He's up there in the conversation of worst defensive player after the obvious ones in Ragland and Parker. I wasn't saying he was the worst, I said "up there" on the list like 4th or 5th. He's one of the worst.

TLO 12-11-2018 02:50 PM

Scandrick is...

A nice person.

Chiefnj2 12-11-2018 02:52 PM

Scandrick is ... at least in position to make a play before the ball slips from his hands to the turf.

Hammock Parties 12-11-2018 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spott (Post 13952311)
Fuller almost cost us the game in Denver when he dropped that interception that was thrown right to him. The very next play Keenum overthrew Thomas who was wide open for a touchdown that would have won the game.

Crazy how this season has gone.

1. Thomas overthrow
2. 2nd and 30
3. Pass to Kelce against Oakland
4. 4th and 9

This team could be fighting for a WC spot right now.

CoMoChief 12-11-2018 02:53 PM

Scandrick has had an ok season.

But when he's been bad....holy shit it's bad.

KCUnited 12-11-2018 02:54 PM

Scandrick is...
 
frazod?

Hammock Parties 12-11-2018 02:55 PM

Scandrick leads the team in PD, interestingly enough.

Go Scandrick.

tyreekthefreak 12-11-2018 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blick (Post 13952262)
Scandrick is right up there with the worst players on this defense.

I wish Sutton would give Smith or Ward some reps at corner.

I never see Smith other then kickoffs......why is that??? Does he even play defense???

baitism 12-11-2018 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13952367)
Scandrick leads the team in PD, interestingly enough.

Go Scandrick.

When you get thrown at a lot, that happens.

loochy 12-11-2018 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13952367)
Scandrick leads the team in PD, interestingly enough.<br />
<br />
Go Scandrick.

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<br />
If you have several piles of dog shit, one of the piles will probably be bigger than the other piles.<br />

DJ's left nut 12-11-2018 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 13952354)
Scandrick is ... at least in position to make a play before the ball slips from his hands to the turf.

Look at the ratio of 'interceptable passes' to 'interceptions' and most of the time you're talking 40%.

4 of 10 balls that could be picked in this league are.

Scandrick's hands are below average even for a DB - sure. But this "he dropped a pick so he's the reason we lost" shit is just batty.

Everybody drops 'em and they drop 'em more often than they catch 'em.

It just is what it is. Scandrick, for everything he's not, IS a relatively reliable veteran that's done a hell of a lot more than what we're paying him. There aren't a lot of veteran FAs you can say that about in this league.

dj56dt58 12-11-2018 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13952357)
Crazy how this season has gone.

1. Thomas overthrow
2. 2nd and 30
3. Pass to Kelce against Oakland
4. 4th and 9

This team could be fighting for a WC spot right now.

I'd be willing to bet teams could say that every year. There are usually 2-4 games that could have easily gone the other way. That's what separates the great teams from the good teams. We used to be a good team..not anymore

Best22 12-11-2018 03:29 PM

Don’t overthrow Hunt, and don’t throw a bad RPO pass, and we’re 13-0...

Team game

wutamess 12-11-2018 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13952247)
Yeah, that was Josh Shaw.

I don't recall Scandrick dropping anything critical in that game.

Didn't he drop an would be INT to ice the game against them too on Brady's last drive?

JakeF 12-11-2018 03:34 PM

We could have won both games we lossed if our secondary had made a few key plays. It's almost like we need that 1 corner who makes a huge interception to change the flow of the game. ;)

DJ's left nut 12-11-2018 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wutamess (Post 13952443)
Didn't he drop an would be INT to ice the game against them too on Brady's last drive?

"I don't recall Scandrick dropping anything critical in that game."

Please see above.

If he did, I'll let you show me. I certainly don't recall it. Brady was pretty much on point that game except for the times we hit him. When we didn't get there, he didn't miss much.

RealSNR 12-11-2018 04:00 PM

I mean, when I think of the things that are wrong with this team, Scandrick's play doesn't immediately come to mind.

It doesn't mean he's a good player, and it doesn't mean we should bother keeping him next year. All it means is we're treading water with him.

That's better than a sharp stick in the eye. Or a Reggie Ragland in coverage.

DJ's left nut 12-11-2018 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13952487)
I mean, when I think of the things that are wrong with this team, Scandrick's play doesn't immediately come to mind.

It doesn't mean he's a good player, and it doesn't mean we should bother keeping him next year. All it means is we're treading water with him.

That's better than a sharp stick in the eye. Or a Reggie Ragland in uniform.

FYP.

He combines the coverage skills of Marvcus Patton with the hard-hitting tackling of Donnie Edwards.

Dude was getting dragged for an additional 4 yards after contact repeatedly last week.

SAUTO 12-11-2018 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13952357)
Crazy how this season has gone.

1. Thomas overthrow
2. 2nd and 30
3. Pass to Kelce against Oakland
4. 4th and 9

This team could be fighting for a WC spot right now.

We could just as easily be undefeated. Same as always

Titty Meat 12-11-2018 04:36 PM

I'm not a big Scandrick fan but he's played well this year.

loochy 12-11-2018 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13952541)
I'm not a big Scandrick fan but he's played well relative to his price this year.

FYP
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Rain Man 12-11-2018 04:52 PM

Scandrick was a pretty amazing last-minute pickup. He's dropped a couple of interceptions that hurt, but where would the team be without him? He's battled some pretty good receivers to a standstill this year.

suzzer99 12-11-2018 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13952357)
Crazy how this season has gone.

1. Thomas overthrow
2. 2nd and 30
3. Pass to Kelce against Oakland
4. 4th and 9

This team could be fighting for a WC spot right now.

We were probably 60% to win the game when we had the ball at midfield vs. the Rams late. And of course Scandrick.

So yeah were like 4-1 in games that hinge on one play.

raybec 4 12-11-2018 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blick (Post 13952349)
Agreed except for Scandrick being significantly better than Hitchens. We've discussed the DL freelancing and not doing Hitchens any favors. What's the excuse for Scandrick?

He's slow, he's grabby, he gets flagged a lot, he gets beat outright all the time, bad tackling, poor ball skills. What does he do well?

He's up there in the conversation of worst defensive player after the obvious ones in Ragland and Parker. I wasn't saying he was the worst, I said "up there" on the list like 4th or 5th. He's one of the worst.

Ah, the CP expertise. It amazes me how many of you ****ers know what everyone is assigned to do on every play.

Deberg_1990 12-11-2018 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wutamess (Post 13952192)
The sole reason we've lost our 2 games and almost our 3rd.

Anyone else notice he could've put ALL 3 games away (Patriots, Rams & Ravens)? I know that's the reason he plays defense but I'm guessing he's going to be THAT ONE person that doesn't do SHIT until he gets the game wining pick in the SB to bring home the Lombardi!

Carry on!

Yes! Because in every game it always comes down to 1 single play.

WhiteWhale 12-11-2018 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 13952317)
This makes me cringe

What makes me cringe is that Kc actually signed that burn victim to be a starter and were SHOCKED when he wasn't up to it.

Pretty ****ing amazing since Amerson was basically a bust who had one good season and was actually coming off of a TERRIBLE season.

Flying High D 12-11-2018 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 13952344)
still one of our better cornerbacks, we don't have much choice right now.

I want to know why our coaches and player personnel didn't work harder to find better options in our secondary? They didn't even seem to try this year. They traded Marcus Peters away, traded for Fuller and then took a nap like everything was fine.

They couldn't predict that Berry might get hurt. They couldn't predict that Murray and Sorenson might suck. Just common and logical possibilities that were completely ignored by the Chiefs.

Dorsey was right, we never should have given the huge contracts to Houston and Berry. They completely handcuffed the salary cap room for defense.

The 20 million per year for Houston would let us sign 3 really good starters on defense. 13 million for Berry isn't crazy but he is a continual injury risk every year. We should have let both walk and got the comp picks.

You spend money on offense and continually draft for defense.

You have to be able to draft and develop for Defense. We haven't been developing on Defense at the needed level.

Excellence in writing

Titty Meat 12-11-2018 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13952298)
Nobody is as bad as Parker or Ragland. And Scandrick has been significantly better than Hitchens..

Let's give the worst players on this defense due credit - those ****ing guys suck.

Scandrick isn't in that conversation. He's just a JAG.

Man this is why I have a problem with Veach. Those are his guys sans Parker which he brought back. Pat's talent will overcome this but I feel its Rodgers situation where the guy would win more with competent front office management. Flame away I'll give Veach another year but I do get the feeling he ain't it.

BlackOp 12-12-2018 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13953077)
Man this is why I have a problem with Veach. Those are his guys sans Parker which he brought back. Pat's talent will overcome this but I feel its Rodgers situation where the guy would win more with competent front office management. Flame away I'll give Veach another year but I do get the feeling he ain't it.

Shit...you're not the only one. The disconcerting thing is Veach's main focus this offseason was shoring up the run defense and becoming more physical.

They are dead last..32nd this year. They dedicated the entire draft to defense and moved up for Speaks. I'm not seeing anything too promising from this class...too early to wave the white flag but...

Chunt fired Dorsey because Berry started a national LR stink..and that led to a snowball of chaos...and shit falling apart.

Berry will be gone soon ...maybe as early as next year. Dorsey would have been here for a decade.

Just a major fail on all accounts....Chiefs had the framework in place for a dynasty.

Kelce, Jones, Schwartz, LDT, Hill, Peters, Hunt, Ford, Mahomes, Ware....FML.

Anyone remember when KC had 4 starting caliber safeties...that Dorsey picked off the scrap heap? Good times...

Iconic 12-12-2018 05:34 AM

If you're seriously counting on Scandrick of all people to make the game winning pick you're a ****ing dipshit. He's a decent role player and that's all you should be asking from him.

The game winning pick lol... how about you play a good game to where you don't need a ****ing street FA at the back end of his career to get you the game winner bud.

Marcellus 12-12-2018 05:51 AM

No longer having a QB to complain about has opened up a pandoras box of stupid on CP.

Chiefnj2 12-12-2018 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 13952383)
But this "he dropped a pick so he's the reason we lost" shit is just batty.

.

Not really. You can always go back and say "if we converted that third down in the second quarter ..." But you know that isn't how it works. Often, one play at the end of the game can decide the game. If your opponent is driving to take the lead with a minute left and you drop an easy pick, you could have sealed the game. End of story. Just like a kicker who misses a FG as time is running out. Sure, there are probably one hundred other plays during the game you can point to, but those are washed away if it comes down to a final play/drive where someone messes up.

Flying High D 12-12-2018 08:11 AM

Seems it would be hard to criticize players that actually play on game days.

scho63 12-12-2018 10:06 AM

https://i.imgflip.com/1ecs5h.jpg

NJChiefsFan 12-12-2018 05:24 PM

I agree with the general sentiment that, at the very least because of the crap around him, he isn't that bad.

Chris Meck 12-12-2018 05:35 PM

Scandrick is mediocre. Unfortunately, with the rules what they are, the difference between a very good CB and a mediocre one is minimal.

wutamess 12-14-2018 09:19 AM

clears throat...

FloridaMan88 12-14-2018 09:24 AM

There is a reason Scandrick was available to sign in late August... he was/is trash.

Scandrick is just a by product of Veach's failure to properly address the CB position during the offseason, specifically the starting CB position opposite Fuller after they traded Marcus Peters.

Red Dawg 12-14-2018 09:27 AM

We have nobody in our back 7 that any team needs to respect. No play makers at all. We need a new secondary all the way around and better than Ragland and Hitch at LB.
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