Perspective
 

The first thread I ever started was after the Patriots game and had the same title. This loss is infinitely more painful and I feel physically ill, but:

1/ We still control our own destiny.
2/ The entire mood on CP would be different had we gotten one simple stop on that last drive.
3/ We almost lost to the Ravens last week and pulled that out of nowhere. I viewed that as a gutsy win and still do. My guess is many of you now view that as a fluke-ish win simply because we lost by 1pt today.
4/ We still have Mahomes and he's still 23 and I'd rather be the Chiefs than any other team in the AFC heading into the playoffs.
5/ I won't let our history in prior years overwhelm me right now. I think things are different and the future can prove me wrong in the playoffs.
6/ We're 11-3. Pretty sure no one expected us to be here at this point in the season.
7/ Mahomes.

Water is wet and this defense is what we thought it was. I want to punch all the people in the face who were happy we didn't give up a draft pick or two to pick up some defensive help, and I'm not sure why Berry wasn't on the field the entire second half (maybe the telecast had an explanation?). But I'm not going to melt down as if this were a playoff game that completely destroyed any hope of our winning a Super Bowl this season.

I still believe this team is different.

Perspective: This defense just saved me at least $500 on a ticket to the AFC Championship Game.

Perspective- the NFL is going to gift dickface Rivers a SB and they don't care if everyone knows that games are rigged.

Chsrgers are in the driver seat.

Mahomes is the only thing different this year. It's been proven 3 times this year that it's most likely not enough.

1. Sure, but we go to a traditionally hostile place to play against a team that absolutely has the offensive scheme best suited to beat us

2. NFL. Most games between decent or better teams can be explained with the same logic you used on this point.

3. Agreed

4. Yes, but I'll tell you who we also still have....Fat Andy

5. Sure

6. Yes but expectations have changed

7. Indeed

Our entire history from the 1971 triple OT, to Szott's holding call on Okoye's run into FG range, to Lin Eliot, to Gonzo pushed OOB against the Broncos, to a single punt in the game against Manning, to a 28 pt 2nd half lead in Indy, to clock management in NE, to Fisher's holding call in Pitt, to a double digit lead against TN, and any number of others all along the line, would be different.

We have a great history when we finish 13-3. Then again, we just suck in the playoffs.

Still the #1 seed, still the division leader, still the favourite to take both of those and even in the worst case scenario, I'll take my chances with Mahomes in this AFC out of the #5 seed.

Yeah, I'm still all right with this season right now.

Perspective... instead of sealing the deal tonight, the Chiefs now face a must win game in Seattle.

Just a massively blown opportunity.

Our offense plays better on the road.

But our defense is stronger (less weak) at home

No they're not.

HFA will not matter to this team. The defense is too much of a liability.

Because playing the Ravens and Broncos is clearly easier than the Seahawks and Raiders?

If we're favored there it will only be by 1 or 2 points.

Perspective: Looks like an Andy Reid team that's slowing down at the end of the season.

Again.

Real talk.

Because we're not undefeated and have 3 losses by a total of 7 points?

There's been no team in recent history that's won a SB that hasn't had holes or some of these similar losses. It's not like we just didn't show up today.

Our defense was actually pretty good - until the last two Charger drives. Part of that falls on defensive scheming

The simple difference is Mahomes is young, as is most of the offense. They have time, not much, but time.

The Chiefs achilles heal is never fielding a complete team. One squad has ALWAYS had to carry the other. Until this changes, nothing will.

Veach found Mahomes, but he won't prove his worth till he drafts AND starts better defensive leaders/players on the back seven.

The playoffs will be about individual match ups, not past successes or failures.

I agree. Chiefs could lose the Seattle game (I doubt it, but it's a tough place to play), but the Chargers could also clearly lose either of their next two against teams playing for the playoff lives.

Yep zero perspective.


We lost cause we’re cowards.


We’re behind LAC

Perspective: This defense is all time bad. Worse than 2003 Greg Robinson defense. Andy will never put his foot on the other teams throat when we have a lead. We are destined to keep games close that shouldn't be. We aren't winning shit in the post season.

I would imagine the Chiefs will only be -1 or -2 at the very most in Seattle. Seattle is playing well right now and their losses have been close

You're right -- we have a good of a chance as anyone does. Problem is with our weapons on offense and Pat Mahomes, every game against a decent team shouldn't be a coin flip. Bob Sutton has been absolutely dreadful in the playoffs, and this year's D is historically bad. You really think we will make it through the playoffs with the offense playing absolutely flawlessly every game? That's what it's going to take.

Perspective - the offensive line is ****ing trash.

The Broncos will be dead by Week 17. Interestingly, we're going to be pinning our hopes on the Ravens to beat the Chargers.

Perspective - this team is one of the best in the AFC - our big weakness is our defense but it’s been our weakness for years - Reid is a loyal person and we’ll soon find out if it costs us a Super Bowl appearance. If it does I truly believe he fires Sutton. If not then Reid may not ever find himself with a Lombardi trophy.

This team is a perpetual one-and-done in the playoffs until Bob Sutton is fired. Prove me wrong.

FYI: if Seattle beats the Niners on Sunday, they lock up the #5 seed and can do no better or no worse. So that might be a little bit of a saving grace for the Chiefs.

Seattle will basically be playing a pre-season game against the Chiefs (assuming they win Sunday) and have absolutely nothing to play for. Maybe they will rest some key starters?

Because Chiefs, no. They will run it up our soft ass defense.

Interesting point. Didn't know that.

My mental image of the rest of the fanbase watching the team working so hard to squander Mahome's season last night

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Actually you want some perspective...we couldn't stop Lamar Jackson from scoring 24 on us at Arrowhead...and that offense is the discount version of Seattle's.

We might need 40 in Seattle.

Wild-card weekend will be fun.

Probably true, yes.

But at least they won’t be extra motivated to run it up our soft ass defense.

Maybe that’s enough for Pat and the offense to bail us out???



(trying to find the silver lining)

Well, that's interesting. I'm rooting for the Seahawks, then. I want them to be fat and lazy coming in, just like our philosophy of protecting a lead.

Sorry, but not even Mahomes can save this team. This defense is too bad.

Having to potentially play at Pittsburgh or Baltimore as the #5 seed... #blownopportunity.

If your glass is half full, I believe we've lost all 3 games by a combined 7 points, so we coulda almost been 14-0

WRONG! CHIEFS lead the division and own the tie breaker over the cHsrgers with two games remaining in the season.

I almost think we have a better shot on the road than at home. I know that's crazy, but if we rematch the Chargers in the playoffs I wouldn't mind going to StubHub Center at ALL.

So bad they got blown out by one point ROFL

I've heard all week by the national media that "the Chiefs can't win big games" and as much as I wanted to plug my ears and think (but Mahomes!)... I can't argue with anyone about the statement.

It's true. As soon as the Chiefs have momentum and hit a national spotlight game... flop.
I thought we were winning the Super Bowl this season... it has felt magical at times. The other times have felt like the same ol Because Chiefs.

This is true.

BINGO

But we didn't. We lost a big game how we lose playoff games. Again. The mood is justified.

Mahomes can't help from the sidelines. All the other Playoff teams KNOW this. That's why the Chargers went for 2 pts.

And the younger fans here on the board wonder why us ol timers are still skeptical and pessimistic. :rolleyes:

Takes a better defense to win the Super Bowl. Last night was a prelude to the playoffs.

I certainly understand the frustration, and I get that it's cumulative. But did anyone really think that the Chiefs would be 11-3 at this point in Mahome's first season as a starter?

People seem to be gnashing teeth that "we won't get to the Superbowl this year." That seems a little nuts to me.

Most of you sound like whiny little girls. I get that the outcome sucked. I get that it's not the first time we've been gut punched.

But everything we want is still there for the taking. Just need to win the next one, which is fairly likely. Even if that doesn't happen, there's a solid chance the Chargers lose another.

Berry's back and will be a boost. Watkins will return soon, along with hopefully LDT and Erving. Hopefully Fuller won't be out long.

I'm hungover today.

Soren Petro going off on Andy.

It's also nuts to proclaim no shot at the Super Bowl. The only team that can really be argued to have a better shot is the team that trailed us 28-14 with a few minutes remaining last night. KC has a great shot to reach and/or win the SB.

The Baltimore win proves that our offense does magical things in the 4th quarter when Andy Reid lets them attack. We saw it in NE, Denver, Baltimore. Bc there's nothing for Reid to manage - we have to aggressively score, we have to aggressively make stops. Simple.

Our offense looks sluggish when Reid chooses to protect the lead. We let SD, Pitt catch up to a huge lead early in the season. We were frustratingly inefficient on offense in the 2nd half vs. Jax, Denver (game 2), SF.

Considering the "protect the lead" ineffectiveness has affected us all year, I'm not convinced whatsoever that Reid fixed the problems that led to 2 playoff losses that were literally historically embarrassing.

With this defense, they've got two chances

Bob Sutton is still employed as DC so the primary problem has not been fixed.

It's a 2-way street. Historically bad D (which I think has some to do with situational playcalling too). But it also doesn't change that an offense that dominates the first half has CONSISTENTLY looked totally off in the second half when they're protecting the lead.

We're not going to fix Bob this season. Lost cause. But we can get our offense to stay aggressive and not put the game in our Defense's hands. That is actually fixable if Reid gets out of his own damn way.