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Prison Bitch 01-02-2019 10:46 PM

2019 Cap Space
 
Avg=$44.2m


1. Colts 123m
5. Fade 83.6m
12. Donkeys 46.
14. Chiefs 44.8m
21. Chargers 28
32. Eagles (10.3m)


Notable free agents: Chris Jones, Dee Ford, Steven Nelson

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/

SAUTO 01-02-2019 10:48 PM

Do the colts only have luck and 3 guys under contract?

Hoover 01-02-2019 10:48 PM

I'm shocked the Broncos don't have 99m or something stupid like that.

In58men 01-02-2019 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 14003932)
I'm shocked the Broncos don't have 99m or something stupid like that.

ROFL

KChiefs1 01-02-2019 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 14003927)
Avg=$44.2m





1. Colts 123m

5. Fade 83.6m

12. Donkeys 46.

14. Chiefs 44.8m

21. Chargers 28

32. Eagles (10.3m)





Notable free agents: Chris Jones, Dee Ford, Steven Nelson



https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/



Ballard has set them up nice.



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Prison Bitch 01-02-2019 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14003930)
Do the colts only have luck and 3 guys under contract?

Essentially yes

pugsnotdrugs19 01-02-2019 10:55 PM

Jones isn’t a FA

Hoover 01-02-2019 10:55 PM

Colts are going to load up. With Luck back, they are sitting pretty.

Prison Bitch 01-02-2019 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 14003932)
I'm shocked the Broncos don't have 99m or something stupid like that.

Taking it up the arse on Keenum - $21m cap hit

ROFL

Hoover 01-02-2019 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 14003938)
Essentially yes

No. Not really.
They have a lot of young Oline talent, young running backs, TY Hilton, Ebron, Doyle, I don't think they need to spend crazy money to improve. They are going to spend money on a some playmakers on both sides of the ball.

Prison Bitch 01-02-2019 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14003940)
Jones isn’t a FA

My bad

Prison Bitch 01-02-2019 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 14003946)
No. Not really.
They have a lot of young Oline talent, young running backs, TY Hilton, Ebron, Doyle, I don't think they need to spend crazy money to improve. They are going to spend money on a some playmakers on both sides of the ball.

They spend about the same 80 we do on offense,but we spend 70 on defense they spend 30

KChiefs1 01-02-2019 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 14003946)
No. Not really.
They have a lot of young Oline talent, young running backs, TY Hilton, Ebron, Doyle, I don't think they need to spend crazy money to improve. They are going to spend money on a some playmakers on both sides of the ball.


Bell at RB?


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chiefzilla1501 01-02-2019 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 14003956)
They spend about the same 80 we do on offense,but we spend 70 on defense they spend 30

Yup. That's what happens when you build a team around Alex Smith. That should change soon. Our old guys will be restructured or cut. I'm guessing we'll make some D cuts over the next few years that will hurt. We will build our D through the draft, not free agency. So that makes decisions like Dee Ford and Chris jones and Allen Bailey and Kendall fuller over the next few years really really interesting.

I'd bet next year at the very least we'll restructure and extend Houston, franchise Ford, let Bailey and sorenson go. Keep Nelson and scandrick only if cheap.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-02-2019 11:14 PM

Well yeah the Colts are a lot cheaper on defense right now but look at their players on that side of the ball.

Darius Leonard (cheap), Malik Hooker (cheap), and basically a bunch of JAGs.

Hoover 01-02-2019 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 14003960)
Bell at RB?


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If they want to pay the freight...

I could see them getting guys like Mark Ingram, Golden Tate, and Clowney

pugsnotdrugs19 01-02-2019 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 14003971)
If they want to pay the freight...

I could see them getting guys like Mark Ingram, Golden Tate, and Clowney

For sure and that’s scary.

The Colts are going to be KCs biggest competition in the AFC the next 5 years as long as Luck is healthy.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-02-2019 11:20 PM

Clowney is a major buyer beware tag for me because even though he has stayed somewhat healthy lately, that’s bound to end sooner than later. His first couple of years he couldn’t stay on the field at all.

I’m surprised there isn’t more talk of Houston tagging him.

RunKC 01-02-2019 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14003974)
For sure and that’s scary.

The Colts are going to be KCs biggest competition in the AFC the next 5 years as long as Luck is healthy.

For the next generation, the AFC power teams will be Chiefs, Colts and Browns.

All the GM’s that used to be here together 2 years ago.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-02-2019 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14003984)
For the next generation, the AFC power teams will be Chiefs, Colts and Browns.

All the GM’s that used to be here together 2 years ago.

Yeah the AFC is pretty loaded with young QBs that have high potential. Hopefully that balances out here in the next couple of years.

Trevor Lawrence is gonna be really good IMO, don’t want him in the AFC. Main thing is hopefully our division rivals struggle to find answers at QB.

BryanBusby 01-02-2019 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 14003930)
Do the colts only have luck and 3 guys under contract?

When you have a literal reerun drafting (Grigson), not a lot of guys on 2nd contracts.

scho63 01-02-2019 11:49 PM

The Patriots will have $2.3 million in cap space yet somehow sign the best FA's.

tk13 01-02-2019 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14004002)
When you have a literal reerun drafting (Grigson), not a lot of guys on 2nd contracts.

Have to look at the actual depth chart, but offhand I'm not sure if they have a single defensive starter that Ballard himself didn't acquire in the last two years.

The offense isn't much different. Basically Luck, Hilton and a couple linemen. Basically gutted the rest of the team and started over.

OKchiefs 01-03-2019 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14003969)
Well yeah the Colts are a lot cheaper on defense right now but look at their players on that side of the ball.

Darius Leonard (cheap), Malik Hooker (cheap), and basically a bunch of JAGs.

So basically shitstain Eric Berry makes almost as much as their entire defense. Wonderful.

Titty Meat 01-03-2019 10:30 AM

That's because like half our roster is up for free agency

EMAW24 01-03-2019 10:49 AM

I feel like the next two off seasons are going to be crucial for who is going to fill the eventual power vacuum thats going to be left by New England and Pittsburgh. We are set up with Mahomes to own the West for the foreseeable future but the decisions we make with our current contracts and next two draft classes are going to decide what kind of team we are going to be with Mahomes. I see this as an arms race between the Chiefs, Colts and Browns and maybe even the Jets in the East.

Prison Bitch 01-03-2019 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 14004299)
That's because like half our roster is up for free agency

Dumb^

The Franchise 01-03-2019 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 14004299)
That's because like half our roster is up for free agency

24 free agents
2 of those are RFA
4 of those are ERFA
And a bunch of the rest are crap.

smithandrew051 01-03-2019 01:38 PM

I’m assuming Houston will be forced to restructure or get cut this offseason too. That should help as well.

saphojunkie 01-03-2019 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 14003956)
They spend about the same 80 we do on offense,but we spend 70 on defense they spend 30

That's going to change, both ways.

saphojunkie 01-03-2019 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 14004299)
That's because like half our roster is up for free agency

No, it's not.

Jerm 01-03-2019 01:53 PM

How the **** do the Rams have 37 mil. in cap space???

LoneWolf 01-03-2019 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 14003963)
Yup. That's what happens when you build a team around Alex Smith. That should change soon. Our old guys will be restructured or cut. I'm guessing we'll make some D cuts over the next few years that will hurt. We will build our D through the draft, not free agency. So that makes decisions like Dee Ford and Chris jones and Allen Bailey and Kendall fuller over the next few years really really interesting.

I'd bet next year at the very least we'll restructure and extend Houston, franchise Ford, let Bailey and sorenson go. Keep Nelson and scandrick only if cheap.

Why in the hell would they keep Scandrick? He's been benched the last two games for being a ****tard in the Chargers game.

LoneWolf 01-03-2019 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 14004632)
How the **** do the Rams have 37 mil. in cap space???

Check out their free agents.

htismaqe 01-03-2019 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 14004636)
Why in the hell would they keep Scandrick? He's been benched the last two games for being a ****tard in the Chargers game.

He's the kind of guy you keep for depth on a cheap deal.

saphojunkie 01-03-2019 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 14004640)
He's the kind of guy you keep for depth on a cheap deal.

I disagree. I think he is a liability to even be on the roster. Our cheap deals need to be first contract guys, not veterans who have clearly lost their athletic edge.

saphojunkie 01-03-2019 02:03 PM

For reference, here are our UFAs for next year and their current cap number.

Allen Bailey - $8M
Dee Ford - $8.7M
Anthony Sherman - $2M
Demetrius Harris - $2.1
Orlando Scandrick - $1.25M
Spencer Ware - $982k
Mitch Morse - $1.486
Frank Zombo - $550K
Ron Parker - $915K
Jordan Devey - $720K
Jeff Allen - $500K

Kelvin Benjamin - $352K
Charcandrick West - $148K
Chris Conley - $2.1
Steven Nelson - $2M

33M or so total that will need to be replaced or resigned. Personally, I think we can get the same production at the same or below cost for everyone not in bold. I included Mitch Morse in that based on availability.

htismaqe 01-03-2019 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 14004647)
I disagree. I think he is a liability to even be on the roster. Our cheap deals need to be first contract guys, not veterans who have clearly lost their athletic edge.

Scandrick is still a smart player that has been around the league. You can't fill a roster with young guys or nobody knows what to do.

saphojunkie 01-03-2019 02:05 PM

From spotrac front page, assessing all the playoff teams:
Quote:

For a team that is near the top of the league in terms of offensive production and near the bottom of the league in terms of defense, the financials certainly don't bear out. With the exception of TE Travis Kelce, the Chiefs are scoring gigantic values at the major offensive positions, and above average production from their fairly well-paid offensive line.

Defensively though, the Chiefs are still in the process of "decluttering" their finances. They've made significant cuts over the past two offseasons to allow for free agent signings, but are likely going to be pressed to make another this March with Justin Houston's cap figure rising to $21.1M, and Dee Ford having a career year with free agency around the corner. Kansas City will also need to address the running game this March, with the unfortunate loss of Kareem Hunt going forward.


Looking ahead, the Chiefs have just north of $42M in projected cap space for 2019, with 41 players under contract, a bit of room to work with to address the above, plus a desperately needed upgrade to their secondary.
https://www.spotrac.com/research/nfl...off-teams-822/

smithandrew051 01-03-2019 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 14004654)
For reference, here are our UFAs for next year.

Allen Bailey
Dee Ford
Anthony Sherman
Demetrius Harris
Orlando Scandrick
Spencer Ware
Mitch Morse
Frank Zombo
Ron Parker
Jordan Devey
Jeff Allen
Kelvin Benjamin
Charcandrick West
Chris Conley
Steven Nelson

I would let everyone but Ford, Sherman, and Nelson walk

I would entertain Benjamin on a cheap 1-year “prove-it” deal. With an entire training camp, his production with this team might be different.

Dante84 01-03-2019 02:10 PM

Jones and Hill aren't FA's, but they would be stupid to play under their current deals, and we would be stupid to not take care of their contracts as early as possible.

saphojunkie 01-03-2019 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 14004663)
I would let everyone but Ford, Sherman, and Nelson walk

I would entertain Benjamin on a cheap 1-year “prove-it” deal. With an entire training camp, his production with this team might be different.

see above: I added some info

htismaqe 01-03-2019 02:22 PM

You have to think Allen, Parker, West, and Zombo are gone almost immediately considering they were already cut before this season.

Prison Bitch 01-03-2019 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 14004660)
From spotrac front page, assessing all the playoff teams:


https://www.spotrac.com/research/nfl...off-teams-822/

Houston 21m next year


Hammy Watkins 19.2, then 21. :)

saphojunkie 01-03-2019 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 14004697)
Houston 21m next year


Hammy Watkins 19.2, then 21. :)

My best guess is that Houston extends, bringing his average cap number down. I think that Berry is a post-June 1 designation, and if they can sign Ford to 10M a year or under, they will. Otherwise, let him walk and get your 3rd round comp pick.

The fact that KPass sucks is just a huge black hole of frustration. We should have both Ford and Houston's replacements already, but he and Speaks are apparently unplayable.

O.city 01-03-2019 02:39 PM

Houston is still good though, he would probably get a nice deal on the open market if he wanted to.

I'd try and keep him around. Same with Sherman.

They've gotta get Jones and Hill done, but they're gonna need to be up against the cap the next few years as they push in some.

Titty Meat 01-03-2019 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Pest (Post 14004600)
24 free agents
2 of those are RFA
4 of those are ERFA
And a bunch of the rest are crap.

So about half the roster like I said

O.city 01-03-2019 03:15 PM

That's about the normal turnover IIRC.

JoeyChuckles 01-03-2019 03:28 PM

Ford is just playing for his contract. He'll be back to average shortly.

Hoover 01-03-2019 03:35 PM

I'm impressed we have 42m in cap space and still are paying full freight on Berry and Houston. Veach needs to be creative with Houston, would love to keep him around for a couple more years, but it mat be time to move away from Berry.

Things could be a lot worse. Having a first round pick and two seconds should also help our situation

Chief Pagan 01-03-2019 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EMAW24 (Post 14004322)
but the decisions we make with our current contracts and next two draft classes are going to decide what kind of team we are going to be with Mahomes. I see this as an arms race between the Chiefs, Colts and Browns and maybe even the Jets in the East.

Yea. Once Mahomes is on a new contract, and especially if KC re-signs Hill, getting production from players that are still on their rookie contracts is going to be even more important.

TambaBerry 01-03-2019 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 14004872)
Yea. Once Mahomes is on a new contract, and especially if KC re-signs Hill, getting production from players that are still on their rookie contracts is going to be even more important.

well we have the ammo this year, a first round and two second round picks should help if we can hit on them.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-03-2019 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeyChuckles (Post 14004813)
Ford is just playing for his contract. He'll be back to average shortly.

Maybe, but I don’t know on that. His problem has never been effort, it’s been durability.

I’d still tag him this offseason.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-03-2019 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 14004884)
well we have the ammo this year, a first round and two second round picks should help if we can hit on them.

We need this draft class to be really solid. Too many good opportunities there.

BryanBusby 01-03-2019 04:36 PM

Paying Ford around 17m and Justin Houston 21m isn't very sustainable. They're gonna have to do something about that.

Sassy Squatch 01-03-2019 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14004940)
Maybe, but I don’t know on that. His problem has never been effort, it’s been durability.

I’d still tag him this offseason.

Even if you don't plan to keep him around you tag him. Could be traded.

saphojunkie 01-03-2019 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14004940)
Maybe, but I don’t know on that. His problem has never been effort, it’s been durability.

I’d still tag him this offseason.

Yep

Skyy God 01-03-2019 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 14004654)
For reference, here are our UFAs for next year and their current cap number.

Allen Bailey - $8M
Dee Ford - $8.7M
Anthony Sherman - $2M
Demetrius Harris - $2.1
Orlando Scandrick - $1.25M
Spencer Ware - $982k
Mitch Morse - $1.486
Frank Zombo - $550K
Ron Parker - $915K
Jordan Devey - $720K
Jeff Allen - $500K

Kelvin Benjamin - $352K
Charcandrick West - $148K
Chris Conley - $2.1
Steven Nelson - $2M

33M or so total that will need to be replaced or resigned. Personally, I think we can get the same production at the same or below cost for everyone not in bold. I included Mitch Morse in that based on availability.

Veach should be tarred and feathered if he hands out a 4th big money OL contract to Morse.

Fortunately, there’s our history of letting centers walk.

Skyy God 01-03-2019 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14004947)
Even if you don't plan to keep him around you tag him. Could be traded.

I don’t think you can trust him on a LT deal, so tagging, trading, and developing Speaks (and, I guess, KPass, lol) makes sense.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-03-2019 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 14005054)
I don’t think you can trust him on a LT deal, so tagging, trading, and developing Speaks (and, I guess, KPass, lol) makes sense.

KPass may as well be a Brown right now. He’s a goner.

DJ's left nut 01-03-2019 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14004946)
Paying Ford around 17m and Justin Houston 21m isn't very sustainable. They're gonna have to do something about that.

They could stop pissing away picks on guys like Breeland Speaks and maybe see if they can find some actual use for Kpassagnon.

But honestly I'm not sure they have any choice but to bring Ford and Houston back next year. They put a lot of draft capital at those other 2 stiffs and pretty much can't get anything from either of them apart from Speaks occasionally setting an edge competently. **** that guy is slow.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-03-2019 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14004946)
Paying Ford around 17m and Justin Houston 21m isn't very sustainable. They're gonna have to do something about that.

Not sustainable but they can do it in 2019. Still, I’d like to see a pay cut from Houston and the Berry situation has to get figured out.

I think you keep both Ford and Houston in 2019, look to upgrade the rest of the defense primarily through the draft, and then figure out 2020 after next season.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-03-2019 05:32 PM

Speaks is weird—he hasn’t shown a ton but at the same time he clearly has gotten better over the course of the year and I think he has the right mindset to really improve. I wonder what the offseason plan is for him, but I’m assuming he’s expected to shed some weight.

Sassy Squatch 01-03-2019 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14005068)
Speaks is weird—he hasn’t shown a ton but at the same time he clearly has gotten better over the course of the year and I think he has the right mindset to really improve. I wonder what the offseason plan is for him, but I’m assuming he’s expected to shed some weight.

He could shed 100lbs and he'd probably still be slow as ****.

DJ's left nut 01-03-2019 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14005060)
Not sustainable but they can do it in 2019. Still, I’d like to see a pay cut from Houston and the Berry situation has to get figured out.

I think you keep both Ford and Houston in 2019, look to upgrade the rest of the defense primarily through the draft, and then figure out 2020 after next season.

Good luck on 'figuring the Berry situation out'...

Dude's gonna get surgery in the off-season and we won't be able to cut him while injured. A veteran player under contract with a football injury has to be given an injury settlement to cut him. That injury settlement is almost always going to be some massive percentage of his base salary.

Given that $3 million of Berry's base is already guaranteed for 2019 and another $7+ million of it guarantees at the start of the league year, they're essentially going to be on the hook for $10 million of his base salary in 2019 either way as soon as Berry inevitably goes under the knife.

Dude played the Chiefs like a fiddle, man...

DJ's left nut 01-03-2019 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14005068)
Speaks is weird—he hasn’t shown a ton but at the same time he clearly has gotten better over the course of the year and I think he has the right mindset to really improve. I wonder what the offseason plan is for him, but I’m assuming he’s expected to shed some weight.

Has he?

I sure haven't seen it that way. Guy's just getting stonewalled every time he's come in. And that's without double teams and with fresh legs.

I haven't seen a shred of development from him this year.

You can say 'weird' but I'm gonna stick with 'bad'.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-03-2019 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14005077)
Has he?

I sure haven't seen it that way. Guy's just getting stonewalled every time he's come in. And that's without double teams and with fresh legs.

I haven't seen a shred of development from him this year.

You can say 'weird' but I'm gonna stick with 'bad'.

I’m not saying he’s good—I’m just saying he looks better to me now than he did in the preseason, for certain.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-03-2019 05:49 PM

Here’s the 2019 projected Chiefs draft choices:

- 1st
- 2nd
- 2nd (LAR)
- 3rd
- 5th
- 6th
- 6th (comp/Bennie Logan)
-7th (SF)

That’s a decent set of picks to work with. I’m sure Veach will make a trade or two, but as it stands, that’s 8 chances to find cheap pieces for the roster. It’s been said a lot but this draft is going to be critical for KC.

New World Order 01-03-2019 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14005068)
Speaks is weird—he hasn’t shown a ton but at the same time he clearly has gotten better over the course of the year and I think he has the right mindset to really improve. I wonder what the offseason plan is for him, but I’m assuming he’s expected to shed some weight.

He looked like an all-pro vs Jax.

New World Order 01-03-2019 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14005092)
Here’s the 2019 projected Chiefs draft choices:

- 1st
- 2nd
- 2nd (LAR)
- 3rd
- 5th
- 6th
- 6th (comp/Bennie Logan)
-7th (SF)

That’s a decent set of picks to work with. I’m sure Veach will make a trade or two, but as it stands, that’s 8 chances to find cheap pieces for the roster. It’s been said a lot but this draft is going to be critical for KC.

They need to blow one of those seconds, move up in the first and take a stud corner, safety or MLB

pugsnotdrugs19 01-03-2019 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 14005096)
They need to blow one of those seconds, move up in the first and take a stud corner, safety or MLB

If you LOVE said player that is available, then absolutely. Otherwise, they should either sit on the picks they have or even trade back from R1 and get more picks.

Sassy Squatch 01-03-2019 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14005098)
If you LOVE said player that is available, then absolutely. Otherwise, they should either sit on the picks they have or even trade back from R1 and get more picks.

Absolutely no trading out of round one. The 5th year option alone is worth staying right where we are. If we would've just stood pat and drafted Chris Jones where we were, we have another year of cost control. Instead, we acquired pick 104 and 178 and took Parker Ehinger and DJ White. ****. That.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-03-2019 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14005100)
Absolutely no trading out of round one. The 5th year option alone is worth staying right where we are.

If the Chiefs are picking between 29-32 and they don’t love any of the players available, but they like the depth of the draft and can get an early 2nd + an extra 3rd in a trade, that’s hard to pass on.

You’d be looking at 5 picks in rounds 2 & 3–that’s a lot of opportunities to find cheap starter level players.

BryanBusby 01-03-2019 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14005059)
They could stop pissing away picks on guys like Breeland Speaks and maybe see if they can find some actual use for Kpassagnon.

But honestly I'm not sure they have any choice but to bring Ford and Houston back next year. They put a lot of draft capital at those other 2 stiffs and pretty much can't get anything from either of them apart from Speaks occasionally setting an edge competently. **** that guy is slow.

You're probably right on that. I think half the battle is getting competent coaching on the Defense.

I'm not ready to write Speaks or Kpass off.

Prison Bitch 01-03-2019 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14005105)
If the Chiefs are picking between 29-32 and they don’t love any of the players available, but they like the depth of the draft and can get an early 2nd + an extra 3rd in a trade, that’s hard to pass on.

You’d be looking at 5 picks in rounds 2 & 3–that’s a lot of opportunities to find cheap starter level players.

Just as often it’s an easy way to collect junk

Sassy Squatch 01-03-2019 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14005105)
If the Chiefs are picking between 29-32 and they don’t love any of the players available, but they like the depth of the draft and can get an early 2nd + an extra 3rd in a trade, that’s hard to pass on.

You’d be looking at 5 picks in rounds 2 & 3–that’s a lot of opportunities to find cheap starter level players.

Good luck getting an early 2nd+3rd for 29-32. The Ravens traded pick 52, a 2nd round pick in 2019, and swapped 4th round picks with the Eagles to move up to #32 and draft their new QB.

rtmike 01-03-2019 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeyChuckles (Post 14004813)
Ford is just playing for his contract. He'll be back to average shortly.


This.

I’m sorry but there’s no way I’m giving him a 2nd contract.
Figure something out but don’t extend him after a recent career year.

New World Order 01-03-2019 06:46 PM

Release Houston and pay Ford

The Franchise 01-03-2019 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 14005096)
They need to blow one of those seconds, move up in the first and take a stud corner, safety or MLB

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14005100)
Absolutely no trading out of round one. The 5th year option alone is worth staying right where we are. If we would've just stood pat and drafted Chris Jones where we were, we have another year of cost control. Instead, we acquired pick 104 and 178 and took Parker Ehinger and DJ White. ****. That.

These.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-03-2019 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14005133)
Good luck getting an early 2nd+3rd for 29-32. The Ravens traded pick 52, a 2nd round pick in 2019, and swapped 4th round picks with the Eagles to move up to #32 and draft their new QB.

I’m not saying I want them to trade back, I’d actually rather them trade up—I’m just saying that there’s a lot of potential scenarios to look at that probably shouldn’t be completely ruled out.

I’m hoping they see a stud CB, safety, or ILB fall into the late teens/early twenties and they pounce on them.


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